Most stable, fasted ROM? - Moto X Q&A

I am coming from a Nexus 5, where we didn't have to worry about downgrading or upgrading, or which ROM to flash for which variant. Everything was so clean and ready to flash for me. I loved it.
Due to damage, I lost my Nexus 5 and ended up with a Moto X, for Sprint on 4.4.4. I have already unlocked the bootloader and rooted it on stock. But the bloatware on this thing is ungodly. So without me having to go and individually freeze everything, I wanted a lightweight, fast, and stable ROM to flash.
The problem is I see none. I see a lot of unofficial, and nightly ROMs, but nothing really fitting my criteria. I don't want something with bugs either. I couldn't find a good (Sprint) stock ROM. I saw one thread, but I didn't understand why there were 3 download links, ROM, Firmware, and SOAK. I am just unsure how to go about finding the ROM of my dreams (lol). I'd prefer something like stock de/odexed (either) with all bloat removed and maybe some minor/major speed/tweak enhancements. I don't really care though. Just bloat removed, quick, and stable.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

Heck, I'd event be thankful for a complete guide on what I can uninstall/change myself! The Moto X is a great phone, just feels incredibly slow.

Sounds like Eclipse is what your looking for.

Or Krypton. I just use stock with Xposed and GravityBox.

Krypton is good also. Try them both and make your own decision

The problem I have is I would REALLY love a stock ROM with all bloatware removed except like active notifications/screen thing. But it doesn't really exist for this phone. That's why its hard for me to use stock as of now.

DRatJr said:
The problem I have is I would REALLY love a stock ROM with all bloatware removed except like active notifications/screen thing. But it doesn't really exist for this phone. That's why its hard for me to use stock as of now.
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Krypton is essentially stock debloated.
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jco23 said:
Krypton is essentially stock debloated.
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Which one do I download for Sprint Moto X unlocked bootloade and rooted?
I have an XT1056

DRatJr said:
The problem I have is I would REALLY love a stock ROM with all bloatware removed except like active notifications/screen thing. But it doesn't really exist for this phone. That's why its hard for me to use stock as of now.
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Why not just debloat with titanium backup yourself. Stock, your way.
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ROM Request: Barebones Stock 4.4.4

Is there a bare bones ROM available for 4.4.4? I recall some being available for previous devices and those seem to have to have the best performance and most popular. Basically just the stock ROM debloated and flashable via TWRP. And if so, would this have working touchless control/active display?
thanks!
The reason it probably isn't there is that most people just root and delete the 10-20 apks manually. Takes pretty much the same amount of time for the same end result.
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Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
thanks for the feedback y'all, looks like I've got some reading/research to do.
IMNUTS - agreed, but from my experience, I think it's best to start with a clean slate rather than trying to debloat various apps - as those could have left other files on the system that could hinder performance.
Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
bothgoodandbad said:
Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
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Went with krypton. Will report later this week.
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Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
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TheBoiledDogs said:
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
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cxwong1 said:
Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
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Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine.
But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2.
Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
Thanks!
Darth said:
Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine. But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2. Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
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[Q] To Root or not to Root?

Hi All,
My Moto X (1st Gen) is about 4 months old. I'm contemplating on rooting the phone. Is it worth the effort or should I patiently wait for the Lollipop update to come in (whenever that is!). I used a lot of custom roms in my old Nexus 4, so missing the excitement of a new rom. just a bit indecisive at the moment. Would love your opinions on this.
arjun2058 said:
Hi All,
My Moto X (1st Gen) is about 4 months old. I'm contemplating on rooting the phone. Is it worth the effort or should I patiently wait for the Lollipop update to come in (whenever that is!). I used a lot of custom roms in my old Nexus 4, so missing the excitement of a new rom. just a bit indecisive at the moment. Would love your opinions on this.
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I am using the Moto X for nealry 9 months now. Never thought of rooting it as I didnt find any bloat here like the Touchwiz
I am honestly very tempted by the ROMs out there. And I don't know why but I'm definitely noticing some performance lag. Tried everything but not seeing a lot of improvement.
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Before you go contemplating this question, figure out if you'll be able to root your phone in the first place.
Then instead of asking this question, ask whether or not you should unlock the bootloader. It's the only way to maintain root since 4.4.4 patched the vulnerabilities used to attain root.
There are reasons why I would root like Tasker(full functionality),a custom kernel or UI changes
I rooted my X so I can play with gravity box and other stuff. Unrooting and relocking the bootloader isn't hard to do and that's what I'll do once Lollipop comes out for my phone. (Already factory reset my phone once from custom Rom).
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I rooted my X so I can play with gravity box and other stuff. Unrooting and relocking the bootloader isn't hard to do and that's what I'll do once Lollipop comes out for my phone. (Already factory reset my phone once from custom Rom).
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You are going to re lock your bootloader to take Lollipop?
Travisdroidx2 said:
You are going to re lock your bootloader to take Lollipop?
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I meant to say return to stock recovery. I read somewhere that you can't get OTA with a custom recovery, Rom and rooted.
TheBoiledDogs said:
I meant to say return to stock recovery. I read somewhere that you can't get OTA with a custom recovery, Rom and rooted.
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Gotcha, that is true. Stock recovery and stock system and you are good to go.
I personally root all my devices for better control. However, I personally don't use Roms because I want a stock experience and that includes boot animation and themes. The only Roms I have ever kept on my phones were ARHD and Paranoid Android. If neither are available, I go with Xposed.

How far can i go on my phone?

I have a non dev Moto X from Verizon (XT1060, first gen). It is currently running 4.4.4. What is the most I can do with it? Reading several threads, I am unable to find a conclusive answer regarding this. Looks like sunshine doesn't work nor do most one click tools. My goal is to flash a debloated ROM at the very least if possible.
You won't be able to flash any custom rom without an unlocked bootloader and that's that really. At most you could root(when possible) and manually uninstall bloatwares from the stock rom. I'm glad I had troubles upgrading my phone initially and was able to read about sunshine app on time.
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to the moon and back at least, of course try krypton, or maybe even the modded 5.1 for the 1060, I prefer krypton but the modded 5.1 came a long way quickly I just wasn't feeling the change from simplicity (less options but works perfect for me) of Moto Assist, to the more complex options in LP :/ Check out the respect threads for each rom!
Safestrap only works for 4.4.2 no?

Debloat XT1060 DE

Hi everyone
I had a Verizon XT1060 DE that was rooted and unlocked on KitKat. The flashlight/camera flash came loose and it had to be RMA'd over a year ago. Not long after, I got a sweet deal on a LG G4 and the new Moto X (still bootloader locked) sat in a drawer. The LG G4 softbricked during a Verizon OTA update last week and they've sent me a new one (now in the same drawer), and in the meantime I picked up the 2013 Moto X.
This morning I unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp 2.8.6.0-ghost, and rooted with SuperSU. I'm excited to have the Moto X back as my main phone (I missed it, for sure) and I'd love to debloat all the verizon crap.
Can anyone recommend to me a good method for debloating? I'm sure I did it on my old Kitkat Moto X, but it's been years and I can't remember and surely there's some good updated info.
If this has been discussed previously, please just post a link if need be.
Thanks again everyone. Glad to be back using XDA again
Also, if anyone wants to chime in with a recommended ROM that will accomplish the same for me. I've never installed a custom ROM but I wouldn't mind trying.
I like AOSP, but I'd try a CM rom or anything really. My requirement is a debloat ROM that everything works. I need this phone for everyday use, so I need to make calls, take photos, use the flashlight, etc. If there's bugs that have a known fix, that works for me, but I can't run a ROM with decreased functionality.
Please post a link if you have a suggestion.
Thanks again everyone.
I've been using Resurrection Remix for a few weeks now and it works great as my daily driver (I have a XT1060 DE as well). The ROM is fast and everything works, as far as I can tell. Look at the Moto X XDA homepage for the page and details, or try this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-ghost-resurrection-remix-5-6-8-t3371948
Good luck!
-Troy
bkoltai9 said:
Also, if anyone wants to chime in with a recommended ROM that will accomplish the same for me. I've never installed a custom ROM but I wouldn't mind trying.
I like AOSP, but I'd try a CM rom or anything really. My requirement is a debloat ROM that everything works. I need this phone for everyday use, so I need to make calls, take photos, use the flashlight, etc. If there's bugs that have a known fix, that works for me, but I can't run a ROM with decreased functionality.
Please post a link if you have a suggestion.
Thanks again everyone.
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I've only tested Resurrection Remix becuase its the rom with lot of feature from other rom too and its stable for everyday use and I write from my Moto X (XT1052).
For everyday use I suggest to avoid (as now) all 7.x roms because usually have broken microphone and/or camera (only video or photo too) with can be important for many people, so i advice you to stay with 6.0.1 roms right now

Downgrading My Moto

After trying all N based ROMS I have understood that Moto G2 could no longer run N based roms on its 1GB RAM smoothly.
So I have decided to downgrade my phone for a smooth performence rather than latest features.
I am not planning to go back to Kikat since it is too outdated.
I appreciate your suggestion on to which rom I should downgrade my moto (Any rom)
u can try this https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/moto-g-indian-xt1068-marshmellow-6-0-t3313148
Every ROM you tried made the phone slower? And I was ready to install a custom ROM. Which one did you try? And BTW, which one leaves more free space?
ondoin said:
Every ROM you tried made the phone slower? And I was ready to install a custom ROM. Which one did you try? And BTW, which one leaves more free space?
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I can recommend this one: AOSP Extended 4.6.
Fast, fluid, good performance and a **** load of features.
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