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Planning to get back on OTA

So its been awhile since I flashed a ROM to my BIONIC. That was back before ICS was even released for the BIONIC. So I started looking at updating to one of the more stable ROMS that has way better performance that this stock one. Currently I have 6.7.232 on my phone and I would like advice on which ROMs are best for this device. I have looked into some such as Gameblur, Raging Bionic, and Icarus HD. Thus far I havent really decided on one but I have noticed that some of them are on Jelly Bean. I am not sure if I have to return to the OTA path to update to any of these. I also have Safestrap 3.11 installed. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks.

Any help out there?? Thanks.

HarielA4 said:
I have looked into some such as Gameblur, Raging Bionic, and Icarus HD. Thus far I havent really decided on one but I have noticed that some of them are on Jelly Bean. I am not sure if I have to return to the OTA path to update to any of these. I also have Safestrap 3.11 installed. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks.
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Well Gameblur and Raging Bionic both require one to be on the 98.72.22 Moto 4.1.2 Jellybean update. Incarus HD however is ICS base and can be flashed with your current setup.
If you are destine to update your stock side I would first prep what you currently have on there right now. See this HERE for getting stuff ready.
I would backup anything on the internal storage before hand and make sure that you have a full battery.
You will find the proper FXZ files HERE. If you are on 6.7.2-223 update then use the one for 4.0.4. It would be easier to root again through the update process. After you have completed the restore processes and root through the HOB. Make sure you have VooDoo Root Keeper installed on your phone to back up Root and to disable Root. Then with a good Data connection you are going to take the update Via OTA. Once the update is complete and you are fully booted up. Use VooDoo to restore your Root and test using root explore or NoFrills CPU.

nobe1976 said:
See this HERE for getting stuff ready.
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The link provided there has a post from the OP that states House of Bionic is discontinued and to use House of Moto. Should I do that?
Secondly I havent for sure decided which Rom I will be moving to. I feel that the interface I have been using is kinda laggy. I installed Next launcher to see if that made a difference and it was more responsive but still my system memory usage skyrockets after a couple hours and sometimes the only way to resolve it is to restart the device. Any recommendations as to which Rom I should move to?

HarielA4 said:
The link provided there has a post from the OP that states House of Bionic is discontinued and to use House of Moto. Should I do that?
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You can try using the House of Moto stuff also depending on what you feel more comfortable on using. The HOM was desighned to have one interface for all Moto devices instead of each having its own individual setup. I would still use HOB for your purpose only because I don't know if he added in the script to root the device, which was made for ICS versions not JB hence the discontinued portion of it.
HarielA4 said:
Secondly I havent for sure decided which Rom I will be moving to. I feel that the interface I have been using is kinda laggy. I installed Next launcher to see if that made a difference and it was more responsive but still my system memory usage skyrockets after a couple hours and sometimes the only way to resolve it is to restart the device. Any recommendations as to which Rom I should move to?
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I have tested and played around with a lot of different ROMs and tweaks to find the one that I am ultimately satisfied with. Flying Jelly, well the name speaks for itself, Rage, and GameBlur (which I had minor help in) all work fine for there purpose.. One must pick and choose which one suits there purpose. So my suggestion would be to install SafeStrap 3.60, which is the latest updated one, and create a few slots and run each the same as you would Stock or any other firmware to measure which one suits your needs.....

In a previous post you wrote "If you are on 6.7.2-223 update then use the one for 4.0.4.". I went to the FXZ site and it shows that the 4.04 rom has version 6.7.223 on it already. I already have root. Why would I need to install the same version again and reinstall root to get on the OTA. I just want to make sure I understand this to avoid making mistakes. Thanks.

Then if you feel confedent that all will go well then just install Voodoo to backup and disable root. Take the OTA update and see if it will install. The most that will happen is that if it detects that something is missing from the current firmware you have the installation process will fail and reboot back into what you currently have. At that point you will have to FXZ your stock back to the way it was installed originally, root, then backup root and disable, then take the OTA. ICS is way easier to root then JB. I have kept Root before via OTA when I got it, so I know it Voodoo will keep the backup and install it..

nobe1976 said:
Then if you feel confedent that all will go well then just install Voodoo to backup and disable root. Take the OTA update and see if it will install. The most that will happen is that if it detects that something is missing from the current firmware you have the installation process will fail and reboot back into what you currently have. At that point you will have to FXZ your stock back to the way it was installed originally, root, then backup root and disable, then take the OTA. ICS is way easier to root then JB. I have kept Root before via OTA when I got it, so I know it Voodoo will keep the backup and install it..
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I think I miscommunicated what my question was. The instructions say to install the FXZ for the 4.0.4 that has the same version of Android OS that is currently installed. the further instructions say to install the OTA from verizon but everytime I check for an update nothing shows up on my phone. Where else can I get the OTA?
In addition I want to know what I should do about safestrap. Should I remove it before installing the OTA or is it fine to leave as is when I go to install the OTA?

OK... If you cannot even get Big Red to send you the update. You can fxz the update, but at that point you will loose root, but have the option to keep your current data. Go see House of Moto or House of Bionic over at droidrazr.com
As far as Safestrap I would just uninstall recovery through the app the reboot so it clears out before the fxz process.
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fyi I think he took House of Bionic down, didn't see a link. I can however attest that House of Moto worked perfectly fine. Flashed fresh .232 and VZW sent me the OTA (I tried voodoo rootkeeper before updating). I did lose root despite following all of the steps. To get it back your best bet is to boot up a live Ubuntu disc. I tried the VM that someone compiled but it kept failing.
PS: nobe1976, how the hell did you fit 3 ROMS on your phone? I can only fit one ROM (besides obviously stock). Wish we could install ROMs through safestrap to SD (internal or external).

mikemikemikexxx said:
fyi I think he took House of Bionic down, didn't see a link. I can however attest that House of Moto worked perfectly fine. Flashed fresh .232 and VZW sent me the OTA (I tried voodoo rootkeeper before updating). I did lose root despite following all of the steps. To get it back your best bet is to boot up a live Ubuntu disc. I tried the VM that someone compiled but it kept failing.
PS: nobe1976, how the hell did you fit 3 ROMS on your phone? I can only fit one ROM (besides obviously stock). Wish we could install ROMs through safestrap to SD (internal or external).
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This is the Exploit I have been using the past few days.. HERE.
However Samuri didn't remove the HOB site, He just doesn't maintain it as much since HOM. Here is the LINK to that f needed.

HyperDrive Tweaks

Does anyone know if there is a way to install HyperDrive Tweaks 2.0 on an SGH-i537 running 4.2.2 and MF3? How about just the Device Menu(shutdown menu)? I really like HyperDrive and run 10.2 from slot 1, but since I can't run it as my stock ROM, I was looking for ways to customize my stock ROM.

monkeyhouse said:
Does anyone know if there is a way to install HyperDrive Tweaks 2.0 on an SGH-i537 running 4.2.2 and MF3? How about just the Device Menu(shutdown menu)? I really like HyperDrive and run 10.2 from slot 1, but since I can't run it as my stock ROM, I was looking for ways to customize my stock ROM.
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I know we've been talking a bit in the other thread, but is there a reason you want to customize your stock ROM with tweaks rather than just using Hyperdrive in slot 1? Ideally here's what I would do if I ever had to start over:
Flash phone to stock MF3 at local Best Buy
Before setting up my phone again, copy the entire phone and post a zip for the community
Do not set up stock ROM, simply root and install SafeStrap
Max out the memory settings on slot 1 and only use slot 1.
The benefit to doing this is I would have an almost completely untouched stock ROM that I could always use to receive official updates while still running a custom ROM as my default.

Devo7v said:
I know we've been talking a bit in the other thread, but is there a reason you want to customize your stock ROM with tweaks rather than just using Hyperdrive in slot 1? Ideally here's what I would do if I ever had to start over:
Flash phone to stock MF3 at local Best Buy
Before setting up my phone again, copy the entire phone and post a zip for the community
Do not set up stock ROM, simply root and install SafeStrap
Max out the memory settings on slot 1 and only use slot 1.
The benefit to doing this is I would have an almost completely untouched stock ROM that I could always use to receive official updates while still running a custom ROM as my default.
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Well, so far, my experience has been that the stock ROM is the most stable. Since I have seen HyperDrive and GPE and have even added some things from Sony Zperia, I see things I like in all of those. If I can tweak my stock and have all the parts from other ROM's that I like, why wouldn't I? There is no local Best Buy here, but I rarely take my equipment to a business for service, too many kids who don't really know what they are doing, I guess. Also, I thought I read somewhere that unlocking my phone was what would prohibit me from installing updates? But since you mention that subject, couldn't I clean the slots, un-root, remove safestrap and do a factory rest and have my original ROM? I know last week I was trying to flash a widget and I did a factory reset, wiped cache and it seemed to be stock to me. I know I had to re-setup my accounts and re-download my apps. I was able to download the last AT&T update, just couldn't install, but I still had root and safestrap. So, from what I read, I could probably install the update if I wanted to and took care of root.
So, I guess to answer your question, I get a kick out of making changes in general, whether if be with my stock ROM or an added one. I'm not a developer, but I do wish I knew more about the OS so I could help with the bootloader issue.
One thing for sure, I definitely appreciate the help I get from the folks here. Pretty fun stuff.

[Q] Xposed on I537? Working, anyone try?

I am a bit nervous to take the plunge and try out Xposed on my Active. Just rooted it yesterday, installed the Google edition Rom. Now I am wondering if Xposed will work on stock or the Google Edition. I will give it a go if no one has tried yet.

AkFatherof4nCounting said:
I am a bit nervous to take the plunge and try out Xposed on my Active. Just rooted it yesterday, installed the Google edition Rom. Now I am wondering if Xposed will work on stock or the Google Edition. I will give it a go if no one has tried yet.
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Xposed works fine, I haven't run into any problems. Since you're using SafeStrap anyways there's no harm in trying things for yourself. Even if something does go wrong you can always wipe your slot and start over, that's pretty much the whole reason for SafeStrap.

Devo7v said:
Xposed works fine, I haven't run into any problems. Since you're using SafeStrap anyways there's no harm in trying things for yourself. Even if something does go wrong you can always wipe your slot and start over, that's pretty much the whole reason for SafeStrap.
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Good to know. A possible stupid question here, would it be best to load my back up of my stock onto one of the ROM Slots? To try out the Xposed. I am coming from HTC One X, so roms and such are done a bit different, I am not quite used to the ROM slot.

AkFatherof4nCounting said:
Good to know. A possible stupid question here, would it be best to load my back up of my stock onto one of the ROM Slots? To try out the Xposed. I am coming from HTC One X, so roms and such are done a bit different, I am not quite used to the ROM slot.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. In your first post you mentioned that you have the GPE ROM installed (I assume you have it in slot 1) and you want to install Xposed to it. There should be no problems doing this since ROMs are independent of each other and do not share any data.
I think what you really need to know is how SafeStrap works. Basically, SafeStrap creates new ROM "slots" while preserving your stock ROM "slot". These slots are completely independent of each other and only share a kernel. So any changes you make to one ROM will not impact the other. Now it is possible to flash a new ROM to your stock "slot", but this is not how SafeStrap is intended to work. Ideally you install a ROM to a new slot and use that ROM as your daily driver. The stock ROM is supposed to be your fallback in case you mess anything up with your new ROM. You are more than welcome to modify your stock ROM or even install a new ROM to your stock slot, but if you do this and you mess something up with your stock slot you could risk bricking your phone. That is why it is recommended that you don't mess with your stock ROM.
As for your original question, there is no need to install your stock ROM to a new ROM slot since it is already there, all you are doing is taking up twice as much space on your phone.

Devo7v said:
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. In your first post you mentioned that you have the GPE ROM installed (I assume you have it in slot 1) and you want to install Xposed to it. There should be no problems doing this since ROMs are independent of each other and do not share any data.
I think what you really need to know is how SafeStrap works. Basically, SafeStrap creates new ROM "slots" while preserving your stock ROM "slot". These slots are completely independent of each other and only share a kernel. So any changes you make to one ROM will not impact the other. Now it is possible to flash a new ROM to your stock "slot", but this is not how SafeStrap is intended to work. Ideally you install a ROM to a new slot and use that ROM as your daily driver. The stock ROM is supposed to be your fallback in case you mess anything up with your new ROM. You are more than welcome to modify your stock ROM or even install a new ROM to your stock slot, but if you do this and you mess something up with your stock slot you could risk bricking your phone. That is why it is recommended that you don't mess with your stock ROM.
As for your original question, there is no need to install your stock ROM to a new ROM slot since it is already there, all you are doing is taking up twice as much space on your phone.
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I understand I was a bit unclear. I do have the Google edition installed, but I am encountering massive reboots. I was going to uninstall it and install a backup version of the stock in to the ROM Slot containing the Google edition. I understand I do not want to mess with my stock Slot, that is why I wanted to install my Stock Rom into the Rom Slot I made. Which, sounds like it is the safest bet.

AkFatherof4nCounting said:
I understand I was a bit unclear. I do have the Google edition installed, but I am encountering massive reboots. I was going to uninstall it and install a backup version of the stock in to the ROM Slot containing the Google edition. I understand I do not want to mess with my stock Slot, that is why I wanted to install my Stock Rom into the Rom Slot I made. Which, sounds like it is the safest bet.
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I would recommend deleting Slot 1, recreate it and install the GPE ROM again. A lot of people have been using it without issue including myself. The only known problem with the GPE ROM is computers do not detect the phone as a usb mass storage device when using the ROM.
If you are having issues with reboots I suggest deleting the slot and starting over from scratch. Also make sure your slot is big enough for the ROM and anything you're going to install. If the slot is too small you could run into the issues you've mentioned.
As to installing your stock ROM to a slot, why not just try another ROM? There are plenty of regular S4 ROMs that work on our phone. You are not limited to the ROMs that are found in the development section of this forum. There are at least 5 other ROMs I have tried and I'm sure there are many more that work as well.
I guess I'm just missing the point of why you want to install your stock ROM to another slot if you already have it? I'm sure there are ROMs already existing that can do what you are trying to modify your stock ROM to do. I recommend trying out Hyperdrive for tons of features. I personally use the GPE ROM found in this forum. Check out this thread for more information on ROMs that work with the S4 Active and SafeStrap.

@Devo7v, thanks, will reinstall and give it a shot. Thank you for your time.

[Q] Specifics on how to switch from Dynamic Kat 6.1 rom?

I've read through several forums, done google searches, and as far as I can tell, need to run Odin to restore to a stock rom before I switch to something like Alliance or Firekat.
I have two problems/questions:
1) Will having safestrap installed complicate things? After reading, I'm still a bit confused as to how DynamicKat uses the bootloader I have installed to run. I don't want Odin to fail and brick my Note 3.
2) I don't want to lose root by using the wrong rom. I don't have a backup of my original rom, unfortunately, and I need to know which files I need to use with Odin to be able to flash over my current install so I can then try out one of the other roms.
Any advice would be very much appreciated.
Other info:
Running on Dynamic Kat 6.1
At&t Note 3 32gb
The last time I upgraded safestrap was when I first installed Dynamic Kat (5.0)

Looking to root my t-mobile Note 4, need advice/help/info

Hello, I have been doing some research into rooting and possibly installing custom rom and kernel, but first I need some advice/help. I would like to remove bloatware and get my note 4 running fast, smooth, larger lasting battery and most important reliable. I'm not new to modding android, I just don't follow it and do it often. Any help would be appreciated!
My device info:
SM-N910T
5.0.1
N910TUVU1COG2
3.10.40-4739134
running on AT&T
Here are my questions:
-What is the best way to root? Odin, cf-auto, kingroot?
-Which ROM should I use? Looking for something stable without issues like non working features etc. Almost like a stock ROM but without the bloatware and restrictions. I have used CWM in the past and seems that's the go to, most of the time.
-Should I stick to a stock kernal or use a custom one? Also what is the best custom kernal (that is stable) available?
-Should I just wait till marshmallow comes out?
-Any suggestions to remove bloatware and get my note 4 running good? I have been getting horrible battery lately and have tried a lot of different tactics to fix, not to mention my note 4 is slow as heck now too.
Thanks in advance!

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