hey guys how are you?, I would like your thoughts on this phone( if y'all don't mind) how easy is to root? what are the best roms available? you guys think it will be waste of money buying it?? all the feedback about this phone is welcome, (good and bad)... I am planing on the gifts I will be buying for x-mas , (I know a bit to early) and I was thinking buying this phone for my lil sis, she currently has the motorola flip which I got her last year, I am planning on spending $200 refurbished, out of contract, used in mint condition..I seen so many reviews but we all know that reviews are just eh, the best way is to ask an actual user,I am a sprint user so I don't know nothing about AT&T phones, well thank you guys, i am eager to hear your thoughts on this phone, and or should I consider getting a better one (more recent phone) thank you again!!
Its alright. Check the build number, GPS, and other specifics off the phone. Development makes it amazing
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If you are comfortable with HTC modding, then modding SGS is usually mind boggling (at least for most people). I find it much much better, but thats just me. Look at Build number since the newer ones have better GPS and don't suffer from sleep death.
Devs make this a great phone that is very fast with an amazing screen. There are many great custom ROMs here...
If it's a refurbed early model it might have fixed GPS (or not). GPS performance is a crap shoot in general...Otherwise, it's solid.
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For 200 bucks this phone is worth it. The roms are great and stable as well as good support incase something goes wrong with flashing or what not, and I think it will still be a good phone in a years time (if you are going on a yearly cycle with new phones for your sister).
pretty much as stated above the phone is a great phone with the exception of the gps , sometimes it works great other times , not so much- if you sister doesn't nee the phone for the gps it is def. a phone she will enjoy using especially with a custom ROM to cater to her likes- bottom line go for it im planning on getting one for my daughter
I'm going to go ahead and list the issues I have with the Captivate off the top of my head and let you decide off that.
As has been stated previously the GPS is generally pretty crappy, but mine's actually been pretty good on the latest leaked firmware KI2.
The cache by default is only around 30M so if you want to download anything larger then that you'll have to flash a modded PIT file or fine some other means to give you a larger cache (see the Cache link in my sig).
Phones tend to have their own individualism so what works for me may not work as well for you
I wish you the best of luck with whatever phone you decide to go with.
I got my Cappy on release day. Never had a single problem with it. Kernel updates are coming to a close and ROMs for 2.3.5. are following closely. Best phone I've ever owned hands down. Development makes it better. I wish my Glock was this perfect! I will be upgrading to Galaxy S II in January when im due, but I will always keep this phone as backup.
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I might be speaking out of an uninformed thought here, but I'm concerned about our root status.
With the bounty being as high as it is, and me not being able to find anywhere that the Devs are collaborating, what are the odds it is taking so long (or even might NOT happen) because there is no developer collaboration for the insanely high bounty? I could be wrong, but I'm starting to wonder if that's the right way to go about it.
Then there's the concern that if we do achieve root, it'll be so late in the game that no one will be developing for our S5 at that point and will have moved on to another device.
Thoughts?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we NEED the bootloader unlocked in order to achieve root it just makes it a hell of a lot easier. I believe the Note 3 on certain carriers still has the bootloader locked but someone was able to find a vulnerability and used that to get root. But I do share your concern as many carriers are offering upgrades after a year and most developers and obviously users get new devices with their upgrade.
Correct, we don't need an unlock bootloader to have root, but, Kitkat update has patch all the vulnerabilities that were use in previous devices like the S4 and Note 3, currently all Note3 shipped with KitKat are stock with no root because of that. I personally think that root will not be achieved on the S5 (Verizon and AT&T), the Note 3 has been on the market way longer than the S5 and the bootloader still locked and root is thing of the past if the Device was shipped with KK from factory.
Besides most of the Devs are researchers and get better recognition/$$$ by giving the exploits to manufactures instead of making it public. Other Devs just like to make it for Fun, but with the locked bootloader there is not much fun but a lot of work instead, and since no everybody that pledges actually pays is not worth it for them to actually work on getting root for a device you can get unlocked on other networks (ex. T-Mo). If all S5 were to be shipped with a locked bootloader, you would had root by now.
Colerunn said:
I might be speaking out of an uninformed thought here, but I'm concerned about our root status.
With the bounty being as high as it is, and me not being able to find anywhere that the Devs are collaborating, what are the odds it is taking so long (or even might NOT happen) because there is no developer collaboration for the insanely high bounty? I could be wrong, but I'm starting to wonder if that's the right way to go about it.
Then there's the concern that if we do achieve root, it'll be so late in the game that no one will be developing for our S5 at that point and will have moved on to another device.
Thoughts?
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These are legitimate concerns that should have you reevaluating your next purchase based on carrier and manufacturer. The goal is to make AT&T and Verizon phones secure enough for the military and business accounts. That is where the big bucks lie for those carriers. Sprint and T-mobile are more geared towards the average pedestrian with their lower price plans and limited coverage, therefore do not worry about locked bootloaders and super secure phones. Other manufacturers such as HTC provide unlock to those seeking it and root has been very easy.
As for developer discussions regarding root...you have seen what the bounty threads turn into...with all that bickering and name calling it is not conducive to a development environment, so those people actually hampered progress. I am sure discussions are going on in private in some IRC channel without the needless interruptions and constant requests for ETA and "Are we there yet." And as mentioned there is a lot more $$$ in the private sectors rather than claim a half bounty and have a free root available.
I'm really regretting my purchase of the S5 without having root, and to hear that it may never come is really concerning.
Welp, sounds like it's time for me to bite the bullet then. I'm thinking I'll post my phone to Craigslist as looking to sell or trade for a T-mobile version. Worse-comes-to-worst, I'll ebay the phone for what I can get, and pay out of pocket the difference for a new one.
Raises a new question: international version or just a different U.S. carrier's?
The carriers are getting work and ideas from us, then adding those features to the phones. Then locking them up (Bootloaders, No Root) because - Like Kenny says, they want to be more secure for corporations. Some people use root for bad things like (Not paying for apps and Xposed modules blocking ads, and other things that they don't want us doing) I use root for LONG LASTING BATTERY LIFE and getting rid of bloatware apps running in the background I dont even use. Yes, it sucks we can't do the things we use to but, they have made it so we can Turn Off apps, Long Lasting battery with the Ultra Power Save feature, etc......(Things we did with root are now coming on the phone >Stole those ideas from us<
EDIT: LETS GO KINGO, YOU CAN DO IT !!!!!! Maybe soon Kingo can produce a root option. That would be awesome. I'm not leaving At&t, been there for 18 years. Great coverage and customer service has been awesome to me !!!
Don't need root for getting apps for free. Ever heard of Aptoide?
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LoopingCreeper said:
Don't need root for getting apps for free. Ever heard of Aptoide?
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Well, you know what I mean. They don't want us to have Root Access. You can do a lot of things with root man.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Well, you know what I mean. They don't want us to have Root Access. You can do a lot of things with root man.
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I know what your mean. Freedom can be used to get in app purchaces for free. That is kinda getting apps for free and it requires root.
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For me, ans more of a power user, the Root abilities were to get a smooother better battery life custom solution. I used Adaway and some apps for better performance. Other than that, root didnt mean much to me. I do miss the rebel aspect of it and that alone rather makes me wish I had bought the HTC M8 instead of the S5 last week.
Best of luck to the Devs that find us a root or AT&T to provide unlocking.
I'm with you guys. I'm just out to up my battery life, remove ads (admittedly. Can you blame me?), and have a few hardware changes, like reassigning buttons, switching music with my volume keys and such.
Biggest want? Titanium backup. I relied on that app more than I'd like to admit, as well as TWRP or ClockWork (depending on the phone/ROM I was using at the time).
It's just nice to be free with something I bought full price, SO I COULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT I WANTED WITH IT.
Either way, We'll see what happens. All I want is root permissions.
Here's a curious thought, though. The AT&T S4 isn't rooted, but they have a workaround (loki mod). Anyone know if something like that is in the works for us?
I agree. Hopefully we will get an Root option (Maybe Kingo will come through again like with the Note 3) but their saying nobody has a root option for 4.4 on At&t phones. Don't see much talk about almost getting there as well. Chainfire was also saying that new Android firmware is about to start breaking root apps. 4.4.3 and on could be the start to the end of custom roms and root for Samsung devices (At&t). I too thought about going with an HTC device, I just love the S5's camera. I don't know what to think about these new phones man. It was so much fun installing and customizing our phones how we wanted to. Its sad and depressing watching these loved things go away. I'm not on my phone as much anymore.
I'm personally getting ready to purchase another device, I love my GS5 even tho it isn't rooted but I'm just not liking the size of it. I got it for $10 with my team member discount but I think I'm going to either get a T-Mobile one or European S5. Idk I want to stay with Samsung but this whole locked phone thing is discouraging.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I agree. Hopefully we will get an Root option (Maybe Kingo will come through again like with the Note 3) but their saying nobody has a root option for 4.4 on At&t phones. Don't see much talk about almost getting there as well. Chainfire was also saying that new Android firmware is about to start breaking root apps. 4.4.3 and on could be the start to the end of custom roms and root for Samsung devices (At&t). I too thought about going with an HTC device, I just love the S5's camera. I don't know what to think about these new phones man. It was so much fun installing and customizing our phones how we wanted to. Its sad and depressing watching these loved things go away. I'm not on my phone as much anymore.
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That's the only reason I kept and probably will keep my Nexus 5...
Colerunn said:
I might be speaking out of an uninformed thought here, but I'm concerned about our root status.
With the bounty being as high as it is, and me not being able to find anywhere that the Devs are collaborating, what are the odds it is taking so long (or even might NOT happen) because there is no developer collaboration for the insanely high bounty? I could be wrong, but I'm starting to wonder if that's the right way to go about it.
Then there's the concern that if we do achieve root, it'll be so late in the game that no one will be developing for our S5 at that point and will have moved on to another device.
Thoughts?
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I've seen maybe one or two times since I've been a member of XDA where a bounty worked achieve root or an unlocked bootloader. Honestly, I doubt many of the devs who work on that type of stuff bought an AT&T S5. If it was me, I would have gone T-Mobile or International, as I'm sure most have.
Also, as someone said above, not everyone pays their pledges. The longer a bounty lasts, the bigger chance people who have pledged early have moved on or are not following anymore. I'm willing to bet that if a bounty was close to 2K, the most a dev could hope for is maybe $500, if their lucky. That's still quite a bit of money, but no where near what was pledged. Past experiences dictate present actions.
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KennyG123 said:
These are legitimate concerns that should have you reevaluating your next purchase based on carrier and manufacturer. The goal is to make AT&T and Verizon phones secure enough for the military and business accounts. That is where the big bucks lie for those carriers. Sprint and T-mobile are more geared towards the average pedestrian with their lower price plans and limited coverage, therefore do not worry about locked bootloaders and super secure phones. Other manufacturers such as HTC provide unlock to those seeking it and root has been very easy.
As for developer discussions regarding root...you have seen what the bounty threads turn into...with all that bickering and name calling it is not conducive to a development environment, so those people actually hampered progress. I am sure discussions are going on in private in some IRC channel without the needless interruptions and constant requests for ETA and "Are we there yet." And as mentioned there is a lot more $$$ in the private sectors rather than claim a half bounty and have a free root available.
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The carriers should make separate phones for consumers and businesses. That would be great.
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The carriers should make separate phones for consumers and businesses. That would be great.
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Some do...sort of...they are called developer's editions and you usually have to wait a few months for their release.
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Some do...sort of...they are called developer's editions and you usually have to wait a few months for their release.
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Hey KennyG, I just got the s5 Active, will y'all be opening up a thread for that soon? Thanks
Colerunn said:
Welp, sounds like it's time for me to bite the bullet then. I'm thinking I'll post my phone to Craigslist as looking to sell or trade for a T-mobile version. Worse-comes-to-worst, I'll ebay the phone for what I can get, and pay out of pocket the difference for a new one.
Raises a new question: international version or just a different U.S. carrier's?
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MetroPCS S5 for $649+ $30 unlock code from cellunlocker-dot-net and you have a wide open west device ready for custom recovery/roms, the works. Also will be carrier unlocked and completely unbranded. Radio has all the LTE bands for TMO and ATT, LTE works. Was using Alliance Rom at the time.
I did sell mine and picked up an M8. Just prefer the feel in hand, 32GB (what was SEC thinking 16GB on a top tier device!) and of course the IPS LCD just looks better to my old, tired eyes than the SuperAMOLED+. Of course everyone's preferences are different.
If you're a night owl and prefer full darkness viewing the AMOLED displays can't be beat. Using LUX I was able to turn down the brightness to just about nothing and the contrast is still outstanding. LCDs (of course) wash out since they do have finite limits of contrast at low levels...
But in normal environments, wow, the IPS display looks spectacular...
In any case, expecting root on an ATT device these days is probably going to lead to major disappointment. Personally, I'd rather use an iOS device than a locked bootloader device (S4/S5).
When you're used to having the freedom of root and can no longer do the things you get used to it's like a punishment, having virtual shackles around your feet and expected to run a 10K on a day with 80 degree dewpoints. Oh yes and with a family of hungry black bears right behind you...
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Hey KennyG, I just got the s5 Active, will y'all be opening up a thread for that soon? Thanks
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Not really needed if it is just as locked down and basically same hardware will see how it goes.
Not sure how to post in the proper thread perhaps a mod could move this post to the peoper one?
Hi this will be my first post. I am seeking guidance to properly root my note 5. After researching this seems to be the most knowledgeable forum but cant find a kernel that works!
First let me explain my situation then I will list all phone specs that i think are necessary.
Im in Canada and was with Bell previously on contract. I had a note 3 which I rooted easily with kingo software. The phone is in great shape still thanks to my otterbox after 2 years. My work offers corporate plans through Roger's so after my Bell contract ended I switched to Rogers corporate plan with the note 5 on a 2 year term. I got the new phone because I was signing up for a new contract and wanted a cheap phone out of the deal. Now that my note 5 isnt rooting properly Im considering sending it back continuing with my corporate plan on my note 3 which works great. The note 5 is awesome so far but if rooting doesnt succeed want my note 3. Rogers gave me a 14 day no questions asked return policy grace period to decide which i have 12 days left. Lastly I purchased a returnable otterbox but a non refundable gorilla glass which has already been installed to on my phone. Just another factor to consider when making this desision as the gorilla glass will be a loss. Id love to keep my note 5 and note 3 as a backup if I get it rooted properly.
Now onto problems Ive had after rooting.. depends on the kernel. Ive had issues mostly with my calls resulting in my note 5 restarting or silence when making calls. One kernel I used froze my phone in the recovery mode screen.. guessing the kernel was invalid.. I have superSu I dont know what Im doing wrong. Im using odin and loading it into the 2nd line i think its under AP. Oh I did the developer option thing already.. oh and I installed proper drivers to my PC twice to make sure.
Lastly heres all the info to hopefully find me the right kernel specific for me.
Samsung note 5
SM-N920W8
With Rogers in Canada
Android version 5.1.1 (Lollipop)
Current kernel Noble kernel v0.1 (most stable but resetting phone during calls)
If there any other info you need to provide me with the right kernel just let me know what you info you require.
I hope to find out within the 14 days if I can keep this phone or not. Realllllly apreciate the help in advance. Bill.
Nobody has any info? Becoming very frustrating
+1 for a friendly bump
I am in the same position as you and recently upgraded to Note 5 as well from Note 3. Honestly, Note 3 with root is by far my favourite phone of all time. I have been reading up on n920w8 threads too and haven't had much luck so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
The one thing that is keeping me from rooting is the fact that others have reported that Samsung/Google Pay won't work after.
btw... have you not tripped knox on our phone yet by flashing one of the kernels?
Yeah the note 3 was great ran smooth loved the os the root ran smooth never had any issues. The note 5 just looks and feels newer but its so unstable I lost calls today dling my taxes then speaking to my lawyer.. I have no landline so Im basically out of a phone right now kind of panicking I need to have a phone but I dont know if I can return it now? Its still within the 14 day grace period can I factory reset and return and stay on the plan the my.note 3? I need to figure something out quick.. I would keep this phone if the root worked but honestly I can go back to the note 3 I can unlock from Bell to Rogers for free right since its rooted?
I can't find any sign of knox on my phone since the root thing wont find it in s finder or anywhere so Im assuming it tripped. Honestly I never used knox on my note 3 either because it was void what does it do? Oh and Google play works fine though..
Im all for keeping the note 5 IF I can get it rooted properly I cant constantly lose calls like this.. Is there anyone out there that has a working kernel or should I attempt to return it? I have like 6 days left..
I was reading that the skyhigh kernel for tmobile is supposed to work. Already have it flashed. Can anyone confirm if this is the right one for Rogers note 5 SM-920W8
Is there a root solution for AT&T G900A Galaxy S5 on Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow?
Thanks
No, there is not
once again.
If you are looking for root, then you probably have the wrong phone. This phone is 2 and a half years old. Most of the developers have moved on to the newer phones, and are unwilling to work on a older phone where the root method is likely going to be specific to this device only.
Has anyone tried https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195 ?
There are more discussions on Dirty Cow at http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
Another potential to try us rowhammer: http://arstechnica.com/security/201...tflips-to-root-android-phones-is-now-a-thing/ and XDA thread for S6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/root-6-0-1-rowhammer-t3486691
Per that article, the APK that they want users to try and report on is: https://vvdveen.com/drammer/drammer.apk
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this kind of poor support makes me not want to buy another samsung phone -_- . its already 2.5 years old let me do what i want with it samsung
four loko said:
this kind of poor support makes me not want to buy another samsung phone -_- . its already 2.5 years old let me do what i want with it samsung
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wont be buying any at&t phones anymore.
four loko said:
this kind of poor support makes me not want to buy another samsung phone -_- . its already 2.5 years old let me do what i want with it samsung
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Its primarily the carrier that locks most things down especially the bootloader. Best bet is to save up and outright buy a "developers" version of a phone or the google pixel.
Take a look here:
http://tinyurl.com/j3rzy7g
It's now basically possible, just waiting for someone to make an executable/apk.
id donate $5-10 for root
Rumor has it the author of this code is not selling or accepting payments for it, and if he releases it, he's not going to charge for it either.
Rowhammer
Seems it is not working on my SM-G900A.
i am also waiting for root i still use this phone i got 3 of these and 3 note 3's old but good phones
Hi,
I bought my note 8 directly from Sammy and was wondering if rooting will effect my plan.
My plan is a little over 30 pounds a month and after two years the phone becomes mine but after one year I can return this phone and get a note 9 but I am not sure if I still can swap this note 8 for a note 9 after I break Knox and root it.
Does anyone know if I can root and not get in trouble when swapping phones ?
Zionator said:
Hi,
I bought my note 8 directly from Sammy and was wondering if rooting will effect my plan.
My plan is a little over 30 pounds a month and after two years the phone becomes mine but after one year I can return this phone and get a note 9 but I am not sure if I still can swap this note 8 for a note 9 after I break Knox and root it.
Does anyone know if I can root and not get in trouble when swapping phones ?
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Good question, I'm on the Samsung upgrade plan also but in USA.
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Bump.
Ease of someone knows how this works then please let us know.
If you have to specifically pay through samsung pay then you cant root as samsung pay will no longer work
I am not talking about Samsung pay the app.
I am talking about the phone.
Bump! Rooting phone will not affect upgrade plan... Just un-root it before change it with ur service provider... or re-install stock rom before swap. Selling phone on the other hand wouldn't be fair to those who using Samsung Pay or other NFC payed options... But that is not the issue for ur quest..., just saying...
Jess no one understands what I am trying to say ?
I bought the phone from Samsung and have to pay them around 30 pounds a month.
This phone did not come from a service provider...
Just flashing stock ain't gonna fool Samsung when the phone is returned as there is something called Knox.
But forget my question as I already rooted and flashed custom Rom.
Zionator said:
Jess no one understands what I am trying to say ?
I bought the phone from Samsung and have to pay them around 30 pounds a month.
This phone did not come from a service provider...
Just flashing stock ain't gonna fool Samsung when the phone is returned as there is something called Knox.
But forget my question as I already rooted and flashed custom Rom.
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I didn't see anything in the ToS about rooting, mostly about damage, maybe it does come under damage though as Knox is an e-Fuse that's destroyed upon flashing custom recovery..
However I don't think they care that much as it's a simple fix for them. I guess no one knows for sure though unless they've done it themselves. maybe ask on the S8 forum incase someone who had the S8 on the upgrade program rooted & then upgraded to Note 8. (if you still would like to know)
My verdict is I don't think it matters... However I've not flashed mine :laugh:
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I didn't see anything in the ToS about rooting, mostly about damage, maybe it does come under damage though as Knox is an e-Fuse that's destroyed upon flashing custom recovery..
However I don't think they care that much as it's a simple fix for them. I guess no one knows for sure though unless they've done it themselves. maybe ask on the S8 forum incase someone who had the S8 on the upgrade program rooted & then upgraded to Note 8. (if you still would like to know)
My verdict is I don't think it matters... However I've not flashed mine :laugh:
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Ha u understood me :laugh:
Thanks for the reply.