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I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
dbozam said:
I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
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I don't have the flickering when not on auto and lowest setting.
However some apps can dimm the screen while loading.
On the TF700 the stock browser did that when loading a page but on the TF701 the brightness doesn't do that.
You have an ambient light sensor built into the device. It adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in your environment. It can't be turned off either.
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xRevilatioNx said:
You have an ambient light sensor built into the device. It adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in your environment. It can't be turned off either.
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It can't be turned off? So when you turn on automatic brightness it just changes the brightness more drastically? This doesn't sound right.
Based on the other poster's response, I think I need to return this unit. The screen dimming/brightening happens to often and randomly to be part of my apps and I even noticed, in some apps, that just touching the screen causes a brightness change.
Even if this is by design, it is far too distracting.
dbozam said:
It can't be turned off? So when you turn on automatic brightness it just changes the brightness more drastically? This doesn't sound right.
Based on the other poster's response, I think I need to return this unit. The screen dimming/brightening happens to often and randomly to be part of my apps and I even noticed, in some apps, that just touching the screen causes a brightness change.
Even if this is by design, it is far too distracting.
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Read it and weep my friend. Proof is in the pudding..
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dbozam said:
I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
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My 701 is doing this as well. Turned off auto brightness, turned off power saver, rebooted. When it comes back up the device acts like auto brightness is on, with screen brightness fluctuaating randomly. Turning power saver on and off again seems to solve it, but that behavior is very annoying - it's why I turn auto brightness off in the first place.
US SKU running 4.3 installed via ota, no root or unlock or anything - straight stock. Its also my second device, my original had a bad cable and wouldn't charge. Serial number ends in 072259.
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Aaroneious said:
My 701 is doing this as well. Turned off auto brightness, turned off power saver, rebooted. When it comes back up the device acts like auto brightness is on, with screen brightness fluctuaating randomly. Turning power saver on and off again seems to solve it, but that behavior is very annoying - it's why I turn auto brightness off in the first place.
US SKU running 4.3 installed via ota, no root or unlock or anything - straight stock. Its also my second device, my original had a bad cable and wouldn't charge. Serial number ends in 072259.
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I also tried turning power saver mode on and off and for me it seemed to improve the situation but not eliminate it. I am going to return the tablet and wait for the nexus 10.
Ugh, mine has been doing this, too. Can't believe there isn't a setting somewhere...
Mine is doing the same thing... glad that it's not just me, but this flickering is very annoying
Driving me nuts
I'm having the same problem and it's driving me nuts!
I'm quite convinced it's a software "feature" but currently there seems to be no way to turn it off?
It's one of those "Adjust brightness of the screen based on content" or "Changing LCD refresh rate and colors for power saving" but sadly it does it the wrong way around (This has been going on for a while now, manufacturers don't really get it). When there is a lot of bright content the brightness will rise and when there is mostly a dark screen it will fall.
Of course, this should happen exactly the other way around. When there is a lot of bright/white on my screen it should lower and when there is mostly black it should become brighter thus giving you more contrast but keeping the overall lux that comes off your screen the same...... My Intel graphics notebook does this too and it's very irritating. There they do it by manipulating the LCD screen and lowering the refresh rate and other tricks to save battery. First thing I turned off.
However way it goes though, you should be able to turn it off!
Quindor said:
I'm having the same problem and it's driving me nuts!
I'm quite convinced it's a software "feature" but currently there seems to be no way to turn it off?
It's one of those "Adjust brightness of the screen based on content" or "Changing LCD refresh rate and colors for power saving" but sadly it does it the wrong way around (This has been going on for a while now, manufacturers don't really get it). When there is a lot of bright content the brightness will rise and when there is mostly a dark screen it will fall.
Of course, this should happen exactly the other way around. When there is a lot of bright/white on my screen it should lower and when there is mostly black it should become brighter thus giving you more contrast but keeping the overall lux that comes off your screen the same...... My Intel graphics notebook does this too and it's very irritating. There they do it by manipulating the LCD screen and lowering the refresh rate and other tricks to save battery. First thing I turned off.
However way it goes though, you should be able to turn it off!
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I'm having the same issue. I think it's the smart dimmer option Asus have used before but they forgot to include it in the Asus customised options. I'll have a dig through the ROM to see where it is stored.
I'm having this problem as well.
I have my brightness set to about 80%, Auto-Brightness Off, Power Save Off.
It is very annoying when reading magazines that have a lot of white background. My screen will be stable for minutes then, often on a touch, will change the screen brightness, seemingly by 5-20%.
I was just getting ready to return it, and thought I would check here to see of anyone else has this problem. Has any actually called Asus with this complaint? I would be interested to know if they see this as a hardware defect, software bug, or working as designed.
PS - I just placed a technical support request about this on the Asus Website. Here is my problem description:
Even with automatic brightness & power saving turned off, the brightness of the screen will change over time, often seemingly in response to a touch. (Reading Mode is Off as well.)
The period between changes can vary from several minutes to 30 seconds. It happens both while docked and undocked. It happens with apps and just at the launcher.
The amount of brightness change is 5-20% and it will often seem to step through some values before it stops at a particular one.
Given how fantastic looking the screen is, this unwanted fluctuation is particularly annoying.
I also own a TF201 and have not experienced this problem on that product.
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sschlosnagle said:
I'm having this problem as well.
I have my brightness set to about 80%, Auto-Brightness Off, Power Save Off.
It is very annoying when reading magazines that have a lot of white background. My screen will be stable for minutes then, often on a touch, will change the screen brightness, seemingly by 5-20%.
I was just getting ready to return it, and thought I would check here to see of anyone else has this problem. Has any actually called Asus with this complaint? I would be interested to know if they see this as a hardware defect, software bug, or working as designed.
PS - I just placed a technical support request about this on the Asus Website. Here is my problem description:
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I have this issue too but not a real biggie as the connection problems between dock and tablet.
Same problem!
dbozam said:
I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
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Thank you very much for creating this topic, because I was worried for my tablet too!
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Snah001 said:
I have this issue too but not a real biggie as the connection problems between dock and tablet.
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I heared a lot of people say I about this, but happily I seem to don't have it or I don't detect it. What is this dock problem about?
I suspect this is the same "smart dimming" feature that the 700 had.
improvius said:
I suspect this is the same "smart dimming" feature that the 700 had.
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Yep me too and as soon as I root I'm going to see if the same fix will turn it off
There seems to be no way to disable this. Some believe it's the light sensor, but I've taped over mine with black electrical tape and tested and I don't see any difference in the behavior. Check our my Youtube video if you are a user who doesn't see the issue (look for threads in this same XDA forum).
I've finally been able to get someone at Asus to look into this and it's been sent to TW for review. I haven't heard anything back yet. I strongly recommend that other people who are annoyed by this (I find it tremendously distracting) to search on "asus escalation" which will bring up a special mailbox. Here is the link (although I do not know if the link will work for you). This should get looked at by someone with at least some ability beyond reading a script. If enough people do this, I think that they will fix it. Since you can temporarily override it by toggling smart saver on/off, it has to be fixable by software.
http://www.service.asus.com/#!escalation-mailbox/c1scx
derekk1 said:
There seems to be no way to disable this. Some believe it's the light sensor, but I've taped over mine with black electrical tape and tested and I don't see any difference in the behavior. Check our my Youtube video if you are a user who doesn't see the issue (look for threads in this same XDA forum).
I've finally been able to get someone at Asus to look into this and it's been sent to TW for review. I haven't heard anything back yet. I strongly recommend that other people who are annoyed by this (I find it tremendously distracting) to search on "asus escalation" which will bring up a special mailbox. Here is the link (although I do not know if the link will work for you). This should get looked at by someone with at least some ability beyond reading a script. If enough people do this, I think that they will fix it. Since you can temporarily override it by toggling smart saver on/off, it has to be fixable by software.
http://www.service.asus.com/#!escalation-mailbox/c1scx
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I returned my tf701, waited for cyber Monday, and bought the Samsung note 2014 since the nexus 10 2 is so elusive. I put in an escalation request anyway and included a link to this thread in my complaint.
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I suspect this is the same "smart dimming" feature that the 700 had.
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I also saw this issue on my TF701. This seems a "feature" of Tegra SoC
Looks as if I'm going to have to join the return game on this device. I've been a very happy TF700 owner on CROMi-X for the last year and still had that WOW effect when I started playing with this tablet.
Until it got dark.... I mean - the attached picture is with the tablet in sleep mode!!!!! That's gotta suck the battery dry like nothing.....
Opened a ticket with Asus for what it's worth...
I'm going to update to 4.3 manually, but don't expect that'll do much.
Does anybody have something similar?
Edit: After about an hour of reading the screen dimmed and had dark shadows on both sides. I flashed the 4.3 update manually since the System Update wouldn't - now everything seems to be fine.
Light bleed gone when in sleep mode and no shadows either... ?????????
Weird, glad you got it sorted out.
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Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
sbdags said:
Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
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Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
berndblb said:
Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Smart saving has nothing to do with smart dimming unfortunately. You can only turn smart dimming off if you are rooted. I'd take it back and get a replacement as what you are seeing is not normal.
berndblb said:
Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Never seen this on any tablet.
To me it seems that some parts of the Led backlight are not working correct or totally not.
Better try to get it swapped or Rma'd ASAP.
R.I.P
I was filling out the Amazon return form and picked it up 'cause I got a notification about new mail - and that's when the digitizer gave up completely.
I was able to wipe my data by hooking it up to the TV and got it to reset with a lot of huntin' and pecking.
A replacement is on it's way. You gotta love Amazon :cyclops:
Does anyone know if custom watch faces can cause screen burn in dim/always on mode?
I know that when the stock watchfaces go into the always on screen that they move a bit to avoid screen burn, but do custom watches that go into always on dim mode do the same?
Nvm, through some experimenting the answer seems to be yes they move to avoid screen burn.
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Nvm, through some experimenting the answer seems to be yes they move to avoid screen burn.
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Noob here so forgive the novice question. Does this mean the dim should be used to prevent burn? Or is it better to not have the screen always on?
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Noob here so forgive the novice question. Does this mean the dim should be used to prevent burn? Or is it better to not have the screen always on?
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A surefire way to prevent screen burn is not to have it always on. Dim will somewhat prevent it since its lower brightness. The ambient mode/always on mode moves around slightly so certain pixels are not on all the time. That said, this doesn't always work depending on the type of watch face you have. If you have a large shape for instance, pixels in the middle of said shape may always be on which could lead to faster screen burn. Personally I leave it always on with watch faces that have thin and simple ambient modes. With the small shifts in positioning I'm not worried about screen burn, and considering I don't really expect to use this watch for more than a year and half it has become a non-issue for me.
Am I the only one that notices that the Watch face isn't centered %99 of the time? It flickers and resets itself upon waking the device. But in ambient mode it's off kilt. Is this a Android Wear bug? and is it to be addressed? Or the watch face?
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Am I the only one that notices that the Watch face isn't centered %99 of the time? It flickers and resets itself upon waking the device. But in ambient mode it's off kilt. Is this a Android Wear bug? and is it to be addressed? Or the watch face?
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What watch face are you using?
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Am I the only one that notices that the Watch face isn't centered %99 of the time? It flickers and resets itself upon waking the device. But in ambient mode it's off kilt. Is this a Android Wear bug? and is it to be addressed? Or the watch face?
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"It's not a bug, it's a feature" (cit.)
Jokes aside, it's really a feature: while the screen is dimmed, the watch face is slightly uncentered and it shifts of a few pixel in random directions every minute. This is on purpose, to avoid screen burn in (typical oled display problem).
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What watch face are you using?
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I'm using Pujie Black.
thegrim11 said:
I'm using Pujie Black.
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using the same. it not a bug or anything wrong. it's actually a feature, to help prevent screen burn. the watch face keeps moving around once a few minutes.
Like it's been said, it's a preventive feature against screen burns.
At least if it's somethinbg like this it is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDl_GW6VV24
You can "fix" that "bug" in the Pujie settings app.
But be prepared to buy a new watch after a not that long time.
My Mi 9 display is starting to burn in the fingerprint image after just 2 months of usage. I'm going to turn off the fingerprint unlock to prevent it getting worse.
Does this sound normal?
Doesn't sound normal but AMOLED displays are know for burn in marks. For that to happen you need to have the fingerprint image always on display. I got a MI9 and the finger print image dissapear after some time and reappear if I lift the phone so its almost impossible in a normal usage to burn in the display.
What kind of burn-in is it? Is it the icon, or is it from the strong light that lights up the fingerprint at scanning? The fingerprint icon must show at the same place all the time unlike the rest of the AOD. I can se how keeeping the icon on at the exact same place all the time 24/7 may hurt an AMOLED display. I turned off, both AOD and fingerprint icon, after a day or so to save battery. Now it shows only on the lockscreen for a few seconds.
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What kind of burn-in is it? Is it the icon, or is it from the strong light that lights up the fingerprint at scanning? The fingerprint icon must show at the same place all the time unlike the rest of the AOD. I can se how keeeping the icon on at the exact same place all the time 24/7 may hurt an AMOLED display. I turned off, both AOD and fingerprint icon, after a day or so to save battery. Now it shows only on the lockscreen for a few seconds.
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So I had seen it as a sort of retention of the fingerprint image that appears on the lockscreen. I saw it when I was walking outside in full sun today. I quickly installed an app to check different colours full screen (dead pixel fix) and it clearly showed the burn in for several colours.
But now that I'm home, I tried again the screen check app and the burn in is gone!
So I wonder if it was either just temporary retention, or if I need to be outside in full sun to see the burn.
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So I had seen it as a sort of retention of the fingerprint image that appears on the lockscreen. I saw it when I was walking outside in full sun today. I quickly installed an app to check different colours full screen (dead pixel fix) and it clearly showed the burn in for several colours.
But now that I'm home, I tried again the screen check app and the burn in is gone!
So I wonder if it was either just temporary retention, or if I need to be outside in full sun to see the burn.
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Please come back here and tell us if you see it again. It would be good to know if the display is this sensitive to permanent burn-in. Keeping the icon shut off at the AOD would probably be a good idea, I find it rather easy to hit the right spot after some time of practice in the blind.
That what you have seen on sun isnt burn in, that is normal see-through screen becase sensor is under display.
No need to panic, i seen it too but that is not a problem.
Same as marko378, it's totally normal to see this on bright daylight, it's not a bur in.
Its the finger print sensor and i see it at day one
No problem bro enjoy your phone
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Its the finger print sensor and i see it at day one
No problem bro enjoy your phone
Nice, today in full sun I confirmed what you're all saying. It's the sensor, the hole behind the screen, and it's only visible at certain angles in full sun.
Thanks to you all for helping
That's normal because the scanner is under the screen so it has to be a little transoarent there to work that's why In screen scanners are mainly used by oled displays. Enjoy the phone
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So I had seen it as a sort of retention of the fingerprint image that appears on the lockscreen. I saw it when I was walking outside in full sun today. I quickly installed an app to check different colours full screen (dead pixel fix) and it clearly showed the burn in for several colours.
But now that I'm home, I tried again the screen check app and the burn in is gone!
So I wonder if it was either just temporary retention, or if I need to be outside in full sun to see the burn.
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It is not safe for the screen in my opinion to maintain the figerprint area always lighted. I use it as per default setting that dimly lights it when I take the phone and then in few seconds it disappeared even if I touch the screen. More than 1 year with the phone and no burning in the screen.