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Hi All,
So i am thinking of going for a HD 7 device and the only thing that's holding me back right now is other people's comments about the sound quality as well as the display on the device.
I saw a video on youtube that does a comparison between the HD7 and Surround and i was surprised by the difference - Surround seems to have a better output when it comes to colors and depth! Is that the case? Are you satisfied with the HD7's display?
Secondly... Since the HD7 does not have any front speakers (the grill's being there for show only), how does the audio on the device compare to others? I hate phones with low audio... It was the one thing i hated most about my iPhone and it was also a major thing with the X1 as well. I like a phone whose ring tone sounds proper...
Care to comment?
With that said... I'm living in Pakistan... so i'm pretty much having a family relative purchase it for me and bring it down for me. We don't have 3G here - shocking - but only Edge... so i imagine either one of TMobile or ATT should work with the networks here? iPhone and Xperia X1 and Xperia X10 didn't have any network problems down here...
Regards.
Salman Khalid
the display on the HD7 is absolutely fine.
It's not and Iphone 4 or an Amoled, but it is a perfectly fine LCD.
I think the sound for things like music, is louder on this phone than any other phone I've had.
The sound does sound weak when you first get the phone but for all hd7 owners you have to download the htc sound enhancer. This will enable Dolby mobile, srs enhancement or allow you to ustilize the equaliser. With out any of these settings on i have found voice quality and music to generally suffer a bit. enabling it has greatly enhanced the sound capabilites of both speaker and headphone quality.
Generally speaking, when you get your hd7 or any htc phone download all the htc apps from the htc hub, it will greatly enhance the expereince on the phone.
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The sound does sound weak when you first get the phone but for all hd7 owners you have to download the htc sound enhancer. This will enable Dolby mobile, srs enhancement or allow you to ustilize the equaliser. With out any of these settings on i have found voice quality and music to generally suffer a bit. enabling it has greatly enhanced the sound capabilites of both speaker and headphone quality.
Generally speaking, when you get your hd7 or any htc phone download all the htc apps from the htc hub, it will greatly enhance the expereince on the phone.
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Agreed I should have mentioned that as well... that was one of the first things I did. I've had Dolby enabled the whole time.
Thanks guys... definitely going for HTC! But now torn between the Surround and HD7... guess will throw the names into a hat and pick one out!
Dont no where you heard about the speakers but my HD7's two front grills do have speakers behind them. They dont sound as loud as the one @ the back by the camera but yes definitely has two front speakers.
Said that based on various posts across the forums and internet... PocketNow's review of HD7 clearly states them to be simply grills...
But i guess i'll find out eventually for myself: 'Coz i just placed an order for the HD7!!!
Personally I would choose the HD7 over the ATT surround as the speaker design is simply ugly and looks like some pocket radio from 1980.
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Personally I would choose the HD7 over the ATT surround as the speaker design is simply ugly and looks like some pocket radio from 1980.
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Yeah... well, i do like the Surround a lot too... but i decided that the speaker, though has its charms, that charm'll probably fade away pretty quickly... HD7 seemed like the best bet.
I was for a moment thinking about the Samsung Focus 'coz of its MicroSD slot and the superior display... but bah! the HD7 is a better device! And as everyone's reporting, and as i know HTC to hold true to that fact... HTC'll probably provide the best support for their devices...
There is not two front facing speakers on the HD7
DJ Lu said:
Dont no where you heard about the speakers but my HD7's two front grills do have speakers behind them. They dont sound as loud as the one @ the back by the camera but yes definitely has two front speakers.
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I thought the same thing because i put my ear against the grills and heard sound from them...but it is only sound conducted through the case. It does look sweet though with identical grills on top and bottom.
Lancelot
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If you have SRS enhancements enabled, there are definitely speakers behind the front grills...I'm not sure why there is this misinformation going around but them being design only...sound comes out of them, take your phone apart, disconnect the rear speaker, and find out if you don't believe us
FiyaFleye said:
If you have SRS enhancements enabled, there are definitely speakers behind the front grills...I'm not sure why there is this misinformation going around but them being design only...sound comes out of them, take your phone apart, disconnect the rear speaker, and find out if you don't believe us
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So much misinformation is flowing around 'coz HTC is stupidly ignoring all of this instead of simply posting more info about it... Plus this guy took the HD7 apart to locate the SD card slot, and the bottom grill on his device didn't have anything behind it or such to make it appear as a speaker...
Possible that the top one is...
Unless the guy took apart the entire phone (why?), he would not see the front speakers if he were just replacing the hidden sd card. I believe HTC says that they're stereo speakers, hence real speakers on the top and bottom. Lastly, they do exist because I've demoed the phone and completely closed of the back speaker while listening to the front. Although not as loud as the back speaker, the front ones do play sound, and it wasn't just loud rear speaker sound playing through the case. I have an HD2 and when you completely close off the rear speaker sound, you do not hear any sound through the front of the case.
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Well, I'll admit I humbly stand corrected. It must indeed be sound spill from the rear speaker then, even though I did the comparison as I stated in my previous post. So, then what renders the HD7 "stereo"? The earpiece speaker combined with the rear speaker? C'mon, HTC... Looks like someone's got some 'splainin' to do.....
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? C'mon, HTC... Looks like someone's got some 'splainin' to do.....
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HTC never mentioned stereo for HD7 .
It’s theirs bad “shady” marketing strategy that makes you believe that you have stereo speakers.
That’s the main purpose of the bottom grill for the “second” speaker and there is a reason why its there.
That`s the main hook that does the job. Add the Dolby Mobile trademark and that’s it. They successfully installed and "created" stereo in our heads only.
If that doesn't do the job , than others so called reviewers will just put the cherry on the top.
Its the same with their 4.3 SUPER TFT that doesn't exist.
PS.
This is probably the explanation if they need one at all after all. (Not sure.)
** Dolby SRS MObile - Mono-to-Stereo Creator—adds depth to the playback of mono content that users download or create…
The speaker is decent. It even has good volume.
Iff you've got the tablet facing away from you!
This is really terrible placement of the speaker on this device. It's not a speaker for ringing as on a phone. It's a speaker that's meant to be heard when the tablet is in use with the display facing you. Cupping my hand over the speaker slit and extending that beyond the edge of the tablet works ... but isn't something you can really expect or want to do.
That's probably my biggest gripe with the tablet.
The screen isn't the best but.. I'll take it for the money.
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
I wish manufacturers would figure out a way to have forward-facing speakers... my G2x has a speaker on the bottom. Better, but seriously... watching a YouTube clip without cupping my hand around the device to reflect the sound to my face would be a nice change. Meh... not that big of a deal to me but I do agree with your frustration.
It seems simple to me, there is already a bevel on these devices. They just need to make the bevel a little bit larger on the side to let the sound out. This is what my TV does and it works very well.
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I was looking at the design and from a "why did they do it that way?" perspective and two things are clear.
1. they want to present the face of the tablet as an unbroken sheet of glass (ohh, ahh!)
2. they don't want to incur the cost of putting a slit in the glass
They could reduce the size of the glass and have a very narrow molded plastic border on the top and bottom for stereo speakers. Would work a heck of a lot better but violate #1...
I really think they're destroying functionality for aesthetics.
Playbook (though bigger) does have forward facing speakers, and are probably the best sound that I've heard on a tablet mainly due to the placement.
its more so because on most phones, the microphone is at the bottom. putting a speaker next to a microphone never ends well. mainly because on calls where you use loud speaker, you'd get the endless loop/echo where the speaker feeds their audio back into the microphone. noise cancelling mics are useless for cancelling the audio since the noise cancelling mic is too far away from the speaker, so the latency doesnt help.
I somehow think putting a magnet aka speaker on the screen would cause problems with the capacitive touch.
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It sucks when you put the 7 on a stand and it is blocking the speaker and muffing the sound. But what can you do? Plug in some headphones that's what.
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Hexdecimal said:
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Wait. What?! Can you provide a photo comparison of your device next to a iPad. This display has hardly any saturation or contrast compared to the iPad. The DAC in this thing is also horrid; audio sounds extremely bad with headphones. A world away from the Galaxy S III DAC.
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Hexdecimal said:
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Well, I have both an iPad 3 and a Nexus 7, and while I like the Nexus 7 screen well enough, it doesn't really compare to the iPad's. Colors and saturation aren't even close, and nothing has text as good as the iPad (I think it's as much to do with how Android renders text as the resolution of the LCD). Don't get me wrong, text on the Nexus 7 is plenty good enough, but you can't say it's nearly as good as on the iPad.
My biggest problem with audio on the Nexus 7, both external and via headphones, is volume. It just doesn't get very loud. That's a complaint with the iPad 3, however, and really I have yet to come across a tablet with decent sound. So, that's not a fair knock against the Nexus 7.
Just from reading through a load of the threads in this forum, I've noticed a lot of indecision.
Let me explain...
Apparently, this phone has not got enough in stock to make sure everyone gets one, there's a buzz from the earphones, it heats up too much, it has poor battery life, poor touch sensitivity, easily scratchable, screen smashes too much, it drops down the toilet too easily, it makes a rattling noise, yellow tint, screen glitching, the screen looks washed out, massive interference whilst using a car charger, a looping FC of Bluetooth Share, not enough vibration, it randomly reboots, black dots under the screen, no connection on WLAN, not enough storage, dead pixels, grainy photos, LED flash doesn't work, wonky haptic feedback, antenna gate issue, slight lift on screen, brightness gets broke, unresponsive power button, slow auto focus, creaking on bottom right of the device, most free media from the play store only available in the US, purple glaze effect on the camera, wireless charging problems, the onscreen soft key, poor WiFi signal, gap between bezel and the side of the phone, it won't drive your car for you and it won't grow legs and kick your enemies.
I'm surprised I haven't seen a complaint saying that the box it comes in is 1mm too thick.
And yet the majority of people think it's the best phone ever.
Just make up your freaking mind!!!!!
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Just from reading through a load of the threads in this forum, I've noticed a lot of indecision.
Let me explain...
Apparently, this phone has not got enough in stock to make sure everyone gets one, there's a buzz from the earphones, it heats up too much, it has poor battery life, poor touch sensitivity, easily scratchable, screen smashes too much, it drops down the toilet too easily, it makes a rattling noise, yellow tint, screen glitching, the screen looks washed out, massive interference whilst using a car charger, a looping FC of Bluetooth Share, not enough vibration, it randomly reboots, black dots under the screen, no connection on WLAN, not enough storage, dead pixels, grainy photos, LED flash doesn't work, wonky haptic feedback, antenna gate issue, slight lift on screen, brightness gets broke, unresponsive power button, slow auto focus, creaking on bottom right of the device, most free media from the play store only available in the US, purple glaze effect on the camera, wireless charging problems, the onscreen soft key, poor WiFi signal, gap between bezel and the side of the phone, it won't drive your car for you and it won't grow legs and kick your enemies.
I'm surprised I haven't seen a complaint saying that the box it comes in is 1mm too thick.
And yet the majority of people think it's the best phone ever.
Just make up your freaking mind!!!!!
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Your phone has all of these issues? Damn i would return it if i were you
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I like it but the box it comes in is 1mm to thick so i can't recomend it.
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Richieboy67 said:
I like it but the box it comes in is 1mm to thick so i can't recomend it.
sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my shiny new Nexus 4!
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I wondered how long it would take
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Made my mind up yesterday after receiving it from ups.... yep I LOVE IT
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I like it but the box it comes in is 1mm to thick so i can't recomend it.
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I must disagree.
The box is way too thin. It creases way too easy and under a lunar eclipse you can really notice it.
Love the phone. My only complaint is that the vibrate thingy is useless!
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Well if the box was 1inch thinner it would fit better in my drawer so damn them for not checking that before releasing the phone.
Seriously I love the design and only time will tell if it will be durable enough etc but for design its an A++
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Well, this was the first batch so you do expect those problems
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Mine has 'niggles' but I don't care, I'm picky but I'm not THAT picky!
The vibration works well, my alarm went off in my pocket when I was driving, gave me a boner so it's clearly strong enough! lol
People seem to be vocal with problems. I've always received an item, decided if it lives up to my expectations and returned it if it doesn't, without moaning on the forums. If it's a software issue, like most of my niggles I'm going to just deal with them until the fix comes, since this is a Nexus device after all, we're in good shape for updates!
Products have issues, welcome to the realm of early adoption.
Phil
Yep I agree. As much as everyone wants the perfect device you can't have cutting edge tech the day it comes out AND have a perfect device.
Under testing there is simply not enough retail devices made at this point to mass test under mass production conditions for long enough to find faults.
Even apple and Samsung and Sony etc etc all release devices be it phones TVs laptops hard drives or a desk fan all will be released before kinks are worked out
This is not deliberate, its just that issues which come up have not been found yet.
Check any identical devices made even 4months apart and you will no doubt find that there are different revisions of board used in them or chip.
Plastic production can be different and parts can be sourced else where .
So unless a recall is required for a dangerous fault, issues will be resolved in future devices.
This is not lg this is anything with a plug that this relates to.
I do agree however many cosmetic flaws should never pass quality control as they are easy enough to see and most of these QC checks are done with cameras now not humans so any discrepancy should be picked up easily to be referred to a human to double check.
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The only think wrong with mine is it came with this forum.
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The only think wrong with mine is it came with this forum.
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100% agree. I don't have the phone and I keep noticing that.
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Yeah, F this forum! Let's move to 4chan/nexus4!
Mine has a slightly buzzing earpiece and the screen seems a little darker on one side although this is probably just my eyes lol.
I have none of the other issues, and have to say that it is a MUCH better phone than the SGS 3 I had for six months.
I was constantly changing ROMS on the SGS3 and was never 100% happy.
This phone is built better, is louder, has a stronger vibrate, better screen, louder and clearer speaker, clearer in calls, much faster and is truly smooth and lag and skip free. The touchscreen is perfect.
Cannot make even one complaint about this phone that would put me off it.
I am enjoying my phone a ton!
My phone rattles but since I don't have Parkinsons I don't hear it.
I have the buzz but the only time I would be able to hear it is when I am on the phone and either me or the other person is talking to I can't hear it!
I don't take my phone to the bathroom so I haven't dropped it in the toilet yet.
Overall a great phone and totally worth the purchase price!
I can't believe we have a complaint thread about complaints and yet the word "glass" is not mentioned once. You people suck.
This isn't a complaints thread. This is letting all the idiots of this forum know exactly what they sound like.
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This isn't a complaints thread. This is letting all the idiots of this forum know exactly what they sound like.
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Dunno. Feels like I'm reading more threads like this one than actual complaint threads. Not sure why these need to keep being reposted.
No phone is perfect, I think we can all agree on this. People are just discussing the issues, it's a discussion forum. I don't see the big deal. *shrug*
Hi everyone! So I've been having this problem with my One from the beginning, where the top speaker sounds softer than the bottom speaker. It actually feels that it is increasing over time. I've tried a few others at the service center, and all had the same problem. So the real smartass guys there said that it's meant to be like that if most pieces have it. Thing is, it isn't supposed to be like this, and I'm pulling my hair out now. I saw two of my friends phones, which sound perfectly balanced.. I read somewhere that it could be because of dirt accumulated in the speakers, so I took a thin paintbrush and brushed over the top speaker, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference. I'm on ParanoidAndroid now, but even on sense, the problem was prominent. Even after turning on beats audio, it was still very audible. Also, it sounds like the top speaker is trying very hard to be loud, and you can feel it vibrate as hard as the bottom speaker, but it just sounds like it's being blocked/restrained. Any ideas/solutions? Except giving it back to HTC and waiting for a week while praying for the best?
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Hi everyone! So I've been having this problem with my One from the beginning, where the top speaker sounds softer than the bottom speaker. It actually feels that it is increasing over time. I've tried a few others at the service center, and all had the same problem. So the real smartass guys there said that it's meant to be like that if most pieces have it. Thing is, it isn't supposed to be like this, and I'm pulling my hair out now. I saw two of my friends phones, which sound perfectly balanced.. I read somewhere that it could be because of dirt accumulated in the speakers, so I took a thin paintbrush and brushed over the top speaker, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference. I'm on ParanoidAndroid now, but even on sense, the problem was prominent. Even after turning on beats audio, it was still very audible. Also, it sounds like the top speaker is trying very hard to be loud, and you can feel it vibrate as hard as the bottom speaker, but it just sounds like it's being blocked/restrained. Any ideas/solutions? Except giving it back to HTC and waiting for a week while praying for the best?
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considering that its a hardware defect, theres really nothing much u can do except for giving it to htc. I don't have the same problem as you though
n1234d said:
Hi everyone! So I've been having this problem with my One from the beginning, where the top speaker sounds softer than the bottom speaker. It actually feels that it is increasing over time. I've tried a few others at the service center, and all had the same problem. So the real smartass guys there said that it's meant to be like that if most pieces have it. Thing is, it isn't supposed to be like this, and I'm pulling my hair out now. I saw two of my friends phones, which sound perfectly balanced.. I read somewhere that it could be because of dirt accumulated in the speakers, so I took a thin paintbrush and brushed over the top speaker, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference. I'm on ParanoidAndroid now, but even on sense, the problem was prominent. Even after turning on beats audio, it was still very audible. Also, it sounds like the top speaker is trying very hard to be loud, and you can feel it vibrate as hard as the bottom speaker, but it just sounds like it's being blocked/restrained. Any ideas/solutions? Except giving it back to HTC and waiting for a week while praying for the best?
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You are not alone I have exect same problem but except giving it back to HTC there is nothing we can do unfortunatly..
adakaya1994 said:
You are not alone I have exect same problem but except giving it back to HTC there is nothing we can do unfortunatly..
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Hmm. Do you hear the top speaker sort of "washed out" compared to the bottom one? And when you get the phone closer, the difference gets less noticeable? Describe your problem a little..
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considering that its a hardware defect, theres really nothing much u can do except for giving it to htc. I don't have the same problem as you though
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The problem is the service center technicians don't accept the problem of imbalance. They say that all the other phones have it, so this will have it too.. And I really have no energy left to argue with those noobs after getting my phone repaired there numerous times.. Well I guess I'll just sell my phone, it's just been full of problems ever since I got it. At the risk of going off-topic, you're from India, what would you see as a good price for this perfect (except for speakers) 2 month old, November batch (HT3B) device?
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n1234d said:
The problem is the service center technicians don't accept the problem of imbalance. They say that all the other phones have it, so this will have it too.. And I really have no energy left to argue with those noobs after getting my phone repaired there numerous times.. Well I guess I'll just sell my phone, it's just been full of problems ever since I got it. At the risk of going off-topic, you're from India, what would you see as a good price for this perfect (except for speakers) 2 month old, November batch (HT3B) device?
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Why dont u try gng 2 another repair centre. Non-HTC. Those repair centres that treat all kinds of electronics. The manufacturer csn b an ass at times. I dont live in India though. But try fr 35K INR
Hmm alright. I'd rather not spend any longer with the phone, it works perfect now, very new (it is a replacement for my previous One which I sent for repair I think five times) Price will keep reducing if I use it for longer. Thanks anyways
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Hey guys, I just got my Moto X yesterday, but the vibrator is very loud and is doing a rattle noise, it's very annoying.
Is anyone experiencing this? Any fix?
The vibration just sucks on the phone sadly
I always seem to have bad luck with vibration motors but not this time around. On my X it's super quiet, but plenty strong.
OP yes, its loud and it sucks....what can you do, I think the placement of the motor is what makes is sound and feel so bad.
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OP yes, its loud and it sucks....what can you do, I think the placement of the motor is what makes is sound and feel so bad.
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Yeah what a shame, I might return it and maybe I get lucky and get back a better unit I don't know ...
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OP yes, its loud and it sucks....what can you do, I think the placement of the motor is what makes is sound and feel so bad.
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If that was the case then they would all be loud. Again, mine is super quiet, and actually among the best of any of the phones I've owned. One of the first things I noticed when I first got my X was how great the vibration sounded.
The problem is the sound it makes it 'hollow', not really sure how to describe it....it doesnt sound like its defective or broken...just doesnt sound or feel 'right'
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The problem is the sound it makes it 'hollow', not really sure how to describe it....it doesnt sound like its defective or broken...just doesnt sound or feel 'right'
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Not mine, it's very nice and high quality sounding. The vibration is one of the things I'm most picky about, and I'm super happy with the way my X sounds. I know last year's X had some units that were good and some that weren't. Mine was terrible last year but everything else was flawless so I lived with it.
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Mine is quiet, feels almost as nice as a samsung phone, much better than my previous htc' s; on my htc one of the speakers had a problem and the replaced it together with the vibration, after that repair my htc felt a lot better no rattling. I would return your phone for warranty
Got it. Well I'm returning mine. Not for this 'issue' but gong with something different.
Same for me. Low vibrations but noisy. But I don't want to return for this for the moment.
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The problem is the sound it makes it 'hollow', not really sure how to describe it....it doesnt sound like its defective or broken...just doesnt sound or feel 'right'
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Yeah, mine seems like that, not broken, but, strange, like if it is a little loose... It makes a LOT of noise, i will search for another moto X and see if it makes the same noise. I can hear the vibrations even when i press the keyboards buttons!