So over the course of time I have used many different ROMs and also have had 5 batteries for my Note so far.
All ROMs gave me terrible battery life, except the stock android for around the first year, eventually it started giving me terrible battery life too.
So that got me wondering, is it possible that some kind of faulty hardware on my Note's motherboard is causing those battery drains?
[email protected] said:
So over the course of time I have used many different ROMs and also have had 5 batteries for my Note so far.
All ROMs gave me terrible battery life, except the stock android for around the first year, eventually it started giving me terrible battery life too.
So that got me wondering, is it possible that some kind of faulty hardware on my Note's motherboard is causing those battery drains?
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I'm pretty sure that would be possible, but I'd make sure to rule out any other cause you can rule out first.
First thing to do is check on who or what is consuming the battery, so installing something like CPU Spy will let you know if the phone just keeps running at top speeds.
Because there simply isn't enough juice in these batteries to allow all parts of the phone to run full throttle for hours.
Smart phones are really at their best, when their just sitting idle and then they really shouldn't consume any power. That's what you need to check: Does it really slow down and sleep, when you're not actively using it?
And CPU Spy (or similar tools) will give you that info by telling you how much time the CPU has spent at each speed setting. If it doesn't drop to deep sleep when the phone if off the charger, screen switched off at the home screen but stays running at 100-500MHz, then you have found the reason for the miserable battery life. Now you'd just have to find what's causing it.
And that could be a long story journey...
However you could start with an empty ROM fully wiped, nothing but the ROM and the minimum set of GAPPS installed (and CPU Spy or similar for checking) empty internal SDcard, expecially no media files. If you have an external SD card, best remove that initially so you don't have to delete any data you keep on there.
If then the Note isn't guzzling battery and sleeping deeply when not used, your hardware is fine.
Then it's just a matter of adding item after item, always checking of that is causing any change to CPU states and energy consumption.
You should also try to find out of any of your five batteries has issues and use a known good one for the testing.
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I'm pretty sure that would be possible, but I'd make sure to rule out any other cause you can rule out first.
First thing to do is check on who or what is consuming the battery, so installing something like CPU Spy will let you know if the phone just keeps running at top speeds.
Because there simply isn't enough juice in these batteries to allow all parts of the phone to run full throttle for hours.
Smart phones are really at their best, when their just sitting idle and then they really shouldn't consume any power. That's what you need to check: Does it really slow down and sleep, when you're not actively using it?
And CPU Spy (or similar tools) will give you that info by telling you how much time the CPU has spent at each speed setting. If it doesn't drop to deep sleep when the phone if off the charger, screen switched off at the home screen but stays running at 100-500MHz, then you have found the reason for the miserable battery life. Now you'd just have to find what's causing it.
And that could be a long story journey...
However you could start with an empty ROM fully wiped, nothing but the ROM and the minimum set of GAPPS installed (and CPU Spy or similar for checking) empty internal SDcard, expecially no media files. If you have an external SD card, best remove that initially so you don't have to delete any data you keep on there.
If then the Note isn't guzzling battery and sleeping deeply when not used, your hardware is fine.
Then it's just a matter of adding item after item, always checking of that is causing any change to CPU states and energy consumption.
You should also try to find out of any of your five batteries has issues and use a known good one for the testing.
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Okay to begin, the phone never drains battery when idle, never. If I charge to 100% at night around 23:00 , in the morning it would be around 90%. So that seems fair enough. Because I keep my EDGE / 2G activated at all times.
The real problem is when the screen is turned on (doesn't matter what I do).
I tried to keep the screen on for one hour, idle, doing nothing. Battery drained by a whooping 25%. So basically it's my screen which is consuming my battery. I didn't try this when I made this thread, so there's no mention of this in the first post.
So I don't think any other apps are consuming anything. Besides I hardly have any apps installed.
I got the gapps from the following link and installed the 'mini' package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/par...apps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Apart from I only have WhatsApp, Notepad, Perfect AppLock, AdAway and Chrome installed. Only a few apps since I did a full wipe yesterday night. Even flashed a stock ROM first and began from scratch.
So I don't really think it's any apps consuming any CPU, only screen is eating a ****load. Could it be the damaged screen?
Holy ****! I just recalled while writing this post, I did get this screen of this phone replace once, like one and half year ago. Could that be it? I did get it replaced from a official Samsung store though.
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Okay to begin, the phone never drains battery when idle, never. If I charge to 100% at night around 23:00 , in the morning it would be around 90%. So that seems fair enough. Because I keep my EDGE / 2G activated at all times.
The real problem is when the screen is turned on (doesn't matter what I do).
I tried to keep the screen on for one hour, idle, doing nothing. Battery drained by a whooping 25%. So basically it's my screen which is consuming my battery. I didn't try this when I made this thread, so there's no mention of this in the first post.
So I don't think any other apps are consuming anything. Besides I hardly have any apps installed.
I got the gapps from the following link and installed the 'mini' package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/par...apps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Apart from I only have WhatsApp, Notepad, Perfect AppLock, AdAway and Chrome installed. Only a few apps since I did a full wipe yesterday night. Even flashed a stock ROM first and began from scratch.
So I don't really think it's any apps consuming any CPU, only screen is eating a ****load. Could it be the damaged screen?
Holy ****! I just recalled while writing this post, I did get this screen of this phone replace once, like one and half year ago. Could that be it? I did get it replaced from a official Samsung store though.
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I'd consider playing with the brightness, just to see of something a little lower is good enough for daily use but I'd say that isn't impossible...
While Samsung liked to hype the fact that OLED would only use power on illuminated pixels, mine are mostly white because reading is what I do most on my Notes.
And then this screen on the Note 1 didn't use particularly less energy than a good LCD backlight screen according to the reviews I remember.
I also remember an article which said that the energy consumption on OLED wasn't linear and that the last 20% of brightness might cost 50% more power (the numbers are most likely bogus but the main point was that brightness/energy consumption wasn't linear).
And yes, there is most likely variation between individual screens on OLED and moreover OLED displays decay with use and over time. I haven't noticed it that much with my Note 1 yet, but my older Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 that I passed on to one of my sons developed a brightness issue: Everything below the first 100 lines or so is significantly darker than the top. I don't know wether that's a consequence of his usage pattern (Whatsapp) or some other reason, but I do know that he typically kept the display at top brightness and also kept it lit far longer than I ever did.
I've always been somewhat disappointed by the endurance of the Note 1 but I haven't really noticed any significant change with the different ROM versions. And since I was also somewhat disappointed by the performance of the device I couldn't resist replacing it with the Note 3 when that came out.
That device was better in pretty much every regard, except screen ratio: I really, really liked the 16:10 of the Note 1 a lot better than the 16:9 of the Note 3.
abufrejoval said:
I'd consider playing with the brightness, just to see of something a little lower is good enough for daily use but I'd say that isn't impossible...
While Samsung liked to hype the fact that OLED would only use power on illuminated pixels, mine are mostly white because reading is what I do most on my Notes.
And then this screen on the Note 1 didn't use particularly less energy than a good LCD backlight screen according to the reviews I remember.
I also remember an article which said that the energy consumption on OLED wasn't linear and that the last 20% of brightness might cost 50% more power (the numbers are most likely bogus but the main point was that brightness/energy consumption wasn't linear).
And yes, there is most likely variation between individual screens on OLED and moreover OLED displays decay with use and over time. I haven't noticed it that much with my Note 1 yet, but my older Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 that I passed on to one of my sons developed a brightness issue: Everything below the first 100 lines or so is significantly darker than the top. I don't know wether that's a consequence of his usage pattern (Whatsapp) or some other reason, but I do know that he typically kept the display at top brightness and also kept it lit far longer than I ever did.
I've always been somewhat disappointed by the endurance of the Note 1 but I haven't really noticed any significant change with the different ROM versions. And since I was also somewhat disappointed by the performance of the device I couldn't resist replacing it with the Note 3 when that came out.
That device was better in pretty much every regard, except screen ratio: I really, really liked the 16:10 of the Note 1 a lot better than the 16:9 of the Note 3.
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I see. Thank you for the time you took to write this reply.
I always have my brightness to the lowest possible and yet I am facing battery drains.
Anyways, it seems this problem is beyond repair. I have literally tried every solution possible and nothing seems to have worked. So I guess it's time to move on.
Thank you for your time and information.
It's probably my screen that's consuming the battery. It can easily last up to 20 hours with 2G turned on the entire day. But as soon as I turn the screen on and start doing something, battery drains at like 1% every 60 seconds.
How old is your battery?.. I´d say get a new one if it´s older than 1 year..
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Hello, my phones battery life is I'd say average.
I get up in the morning after its been charging all night, and after its been unplugged for maybe a half hour, with a few texts and a minute of browsing done, the battery has gone down 5%.
Battery usage shows that display is taking up 89% of the usage!
Why is this? Is it normal? If not, how can I fix this?
Display will use most anyway. Get a darker home screen, either use low brightness or auto-brightness. not much else you can do.
Let me guess you're using CyanogenMod?
I've seen reports of my same problem, and those that had it found a solution by wiping the battery statistics, letting it die, then charging it to 100%
But no, my nexus isn't even rooted.
Strange. Before I was rooted my display would always be 1st or 2nd, along with android OS
After I rooted using Cyan, it was always 1st taking up more than 60%
Then I switched ROMS now its always 3rd or even 4th
Sorry dude.. try wiping batty stats and changing your brightness.. are you using live wallpaper? what about screen timeout.
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Strange. Before I was rooted my display would always be 1st or 2nd, along with android OS
After I rooted using Cyan, it was always 1st taking up more than 60%
Then I switched ROMS now its always 3rd or even 4th
Sorry dude.. try wiping batty stats and changing your brightness.. are you using live wallpaper? what about screen timeout.
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has anyone thought that the battery usage stats has to equal 100% so if the operating system on CM is running lighter (usin the cpu less or in a more efficient way) then the display would be taking more % of battery usage making people think there is something wrong when probably there is nothing wrong. maybe the desire ports (modaco ro king) use more cpu and thats why the display is 3rd or 2nd.
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Hello, my phones battery life is I'd say average.
I get up in the morning after its been charging all night, and after its been unplugged for maybe a half hour, with a few texts and a minute of browsing done, the battery has gone down 5%.
Battery usage shows that display is taking up 89% of the usage!
Why is this? Is it normal? If not, how can I fix this?
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This is perfectly normal. Displays are power hungry relative to the rest of the phones components.
Google maybe shouldn't have included the battery usage page as it just leads to confusion. When you use up 5% of your battery's power and then check the stats and see that the display is listed at 89% it means that of the 5% used, 89% went to powering the display. It does not mean that the screen has used 89% of your total battery at that point.
Leave the phone alone for a while and you'll see that the display percentage will go down while things such as Cell standby will go up.
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has anyone thought that the battery usage stats has to equal 100% so if the operating system on CM is running lighter (usin the cpu less or in a more efficient way) then the display would be taking more % of battery usage making people think there is something wrong when probably there is nothing wrong. maybe the desire ports (modaco ro king) use more cpu and thats why the display is 3rd or 2nd.
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Nobody thinks of that
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I am on more than 9h of use still 50% battery left!
- Autobrightness on
- No taskkiller!!
- Wifi on all the time
...and using it today a lot, mails, web, twitter,....-> made a logcat this morning and eliminated my battery drainers
Agh! I want better battery life! I feel like it's dying much too quickly....
buy a bigger battery
or stop fiddling with it so much, lol
turn the brightness down. turn the sync off. turn off background data. don't use bluetooth or wifi. turn off your location.
don't use live wallpaper, use a darker screen that doesn't move.
i know on my winmo phone if i turned on bluetooth, battery would just get sucked out. i couldn't charge
it as fast as bt used it up. and that was with a fastcharge reg edit.
I believe you just got your phone, right?
It's cause you're playing with it so much.
I dont feel like I am though. I am using it probably just as much as I use any other phone I've had.
Maybe the battery just needs to be broken in.
timothydonohue said:
turn the brightness down. turn the sync off. turn off background data. don't use bluetooth or wifi. turn off your location.
don't use live wallpaper, use a darker screen that doesn't move.
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So cripple the phone basically?
lore2486 said:
has anyone thought that the battery usage stats has to equal 100% so if the operating system on CM is running lighter (usin the cpu less or in a more efficient way) then the display would be taking more % of battery usage making people think there is something wrong when probably there is nothing wrong. maybe the desire ports (modaco ro king) use more cpu and thats why the display is 3rd or 2nd.
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Nobody ever thinks of that unfortunately. I would think display using the most would mean you're using a pretty efficient device.
Yup. That if you want to keep your battery as long as it can get. Else, if you want to enjoy your phone, buy a spare battery along with the desktop charger and you will survive a day...
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I switched to enoms which gave me a little better battery life. Also downloading juice defender made a noticable difference, I use the free version at the default settings. I also switched email to hourly which is adaquate for me. I dont run bluetooth unless I am using it, same with wifi, which is what I do with all my phones. I dont otherwise change my usage, dim the screen etc. Overall I make it through the day with typically about 35% left. Based on what I see here my usage would probably fall into the light to moderate range. To be honest I havent had a smartphone recently that did much better. I pretty much figure I gotta plug in every night in the modern phone world.
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Strange. Before I was rooted my display would always be 1st or 2nd, along with android OS
After I rooted using Cyan, it was always 1st taking up more than 60%
Then I switched ROMS now its always 3rd or even 4th
Sorry dude.. try wiping batty stats and changing your brightness.. are you using live wallpaper? what about screen timeout.
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As others have mentioned, the display uses the same amount of power no matter what rom you are using. So if display is 3rd or 4th, you have an absolutely crappy rom that is using battery probably 10x as fast (compared to same usage where display is 90% of the battery).
In simple terms, the higher % your battery is using, the more efficient your phone is being.*
*compared to same usage at same brightness running different software.
An addendum to juice defender. I had it on the default setting but changed schedule so that it lit up apn for 3 minutes out of fifteen instead of one, my email wasnt consitently downloading at one minute.
I noticed that you have gone to 5.0.6, how is your batt life now? I stayed away from it just because of the overrwhelming number of bad battery life posts on it and was surprised you went that way.
Hi and greetings from Desire forum
There are few Froyo ports/source builds for HTC Desire. All of the seems to have huge display battery drain (which can be seen in settings/battery usage) for about 80%. Do you might to check how much display is draining on N1 Froyo?
Thx
It is all relative to each other in that screen. If your display is a really high number, then it means that the system, apps, and everything else on your phone is using much less battery.
With the Froyo update, things run faster, and thus finish faster. Using less battery time. The only thing that can't change is the Display amount.
So really, the fact display went up is an awesome thing
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It is all relative to each other in that screen. If your display is a really high number, then it means that the system, apps, and everything else on your phone is using much less battery.
With the Froyo update, things run faster, and thus finish faster. Using less battery time. The only thing that can't change is the Display amount.
So really, the fact display went up is an awesome thing
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Do you mind to check whats your N1 says about it?
I could. My Display is higher than all the others too 75%. But it all really depends on how you use it. I've only had my phone off the charger for an hour or so and browsed a lot with it already.
Unless I do the exact same thing as you, visit the same sites, have the brightness the same for the same duration you had, it is impossible to compare numbers.
The usage is a percentage of time since last unplugged of what each part of your phone used. If I unplugged it and never turned the phone on. Someone phoned me and I talked for an hour, then the display would be very little and the phone would be 80%.
It all depends on the usage.
hopefully you're right and this is just one of the froyo features
Hello, I have just a got an XT1254 for around a week so I am still testing the device. Battery is always my biggest concern for every phone I had and therefore I like droid turbo's big battery.
After I have got the device, I tried to debloat most of the moto/verizon/amazon apps and managed to get only 1%-2% drain during sleep overnight. I haven't installed many apps at this moment, as I am testing how long I can get with minimal usage for one charge. It is now more than 2.5 days after charge and I have 62% left, and I disabled almost all censors. and only turn on data/wireless only when necessary.
My problem is, I still get a, I think, quite fast battery drain when screen on. I am not watching video or playing games, I just use whatsapp or test camera, not even facebook, and I get 1% drain in 2-3 minutes. What I want to ask is, is this normal? Or is there anything I can do to reduce further? I think the screen eats most of the battery, and I used auto brightness, or manually to 10% brightness indoor, with dark wallpaper in launcher already.
I have no plan to root at this moment, but I think the processor speed can be lowered. Is there anything I can tweak about the processor?
Thank you very much for answering!
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Hello, I have just a got an XT1254 for around a week so I am still testing the device. Battery is always my biggest concern for every phone I had and therefore I like droid turbo's big battery.
After I have got the device, I tried to debloat most of the moto/verizon/amazon apps and managed to get only 1%-2% drain during sleep overnight. I haven't installed many apps at this moment, as I am testing how long I can get with minimal usage for one charge. It is now more than 2.5 days after charge and I have 62% left, and I disabled almost all censors. and only turn on data/wireless only when necessary.
My problem is, I still get a, I think, quite fast battery drain when screen on. I am not watching video or playing games, I just use whatsapp or test camera, not even facebook, and I get 1% drain in 2-3 minutes. What I want to ask is, is this normal? Or is there anything I can do to reduce further? I think the screen eats most of the battery, and I used auto brightness, or manually to 10% brightness indoor, with dark wallpaper in launcher already.
I have no plan to root at this moment, but I think the processor speed can be lowered. Is there anything I can tweak about the processor?
Thank you very much for answering!
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This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/google-play-services-battery-drain-t3083672
and this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/sorcery-t3109510/
Besides, you should know that KitKat stand by time is horrible. I passed from around 10% battery drain overnight to around 2% with Lollipop. You need root to tweak the processor.
:fingers-crossed:
Galaxo60 said:
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/google-play-services-battery-drain-t3083672
and this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/sorcery-t3109510/
Besides, you should know that KitKat stand by time is horrible. I passed from around 10% battery drain overnight to around 2% with Lollipop. You need root to tweak the processor.
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Thank you and I have tried to read the posts. The google play service doesn't seem to be the problem of my device. The drain during sleep is somewhat acceptable, and anyway I need to keep background data on for play service. My problem is, when screen on, it drains 1% in 2-3 minutes doing simple tasks like whatsapp and camera, and the brightness is already either auto or minimum. And my point is, given the huge battery and nothing serious being done, it still drains more than my previous phone (sony m2 also running kitkat 4.4.4)
zhaoyun said:
Thank you and I have tried to read the posts. The google play service doesn't seem to be the problem of my device. The drain during sleep is somewhat acceptable, and anyway I need to keep background data on for play service. My problem is, when screen on, it drains 1% in 2-3 minutes doing simple tasks like whatsapp and camera, and the brightness is already either auto or minimum. And my point is, given the huge battery and nothing serious being done, it still drains more than my previous phone (sony m2 also running kitkat 4.4.4)
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You should take a look at the apps you have installed, besides this, I think the drain is pretty normal for a QHD screen. Remember there are great number of pixels to move in this screen, so the battery also suffers from this.
Galaxo60 said:
You should take a look at the apps you have installed, besides this, I think the drain is pretty normal for a QHD screen. Remember there are great number of pixels to move in this screen, so the battery also suffers from this.
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I attach a screen capture of my battery screen.
My phone is new and I haven't installed many things. Just nova launcher plus some widgets. BTW, may I ask whether phone idle contribute 25% of power is normal. Yes I mostly leave the phone standby and actually do not have real use except phone, sms and whatsapp.
zhaoyun said:
I attach a screen capture of my battery screen.
My phone is new and I haven't installed many things. Just nova launcher plus some widgets. BTW, may I ask whether phone idle contribute 25% of power is normal. Yes I mostly leave the phone standby and actually do not have real use except phone, sms and whatsapp.
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I don't see anything wrong with the drain, all is perfectly normal. Phone idle is on top when you don't use the phone, so I think you have no problems at all.
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
bandario said:
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
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This is what you get when you use a high performance chip.
If it was like cars.. just because the gas tank is big (battery) doesn't mean that the engine won't consume the fuel faster than a more Efficient engine (cpu) with less power.
Other phones might be able to last 3 days, but they also dont have the performance capabilities. Turn on extreme power saving and see how long the phone lasts ...
I'm using stock unbranded ROM. I also adp uninstalled all the Facebook system apps (devil-ware). With Pie + OneUI + Night mode + Dark UI apps, it's the first time I love stock. I bet your non-stock ROM + TGP is the culprit.
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
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I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
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A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
Bober_is_a_troll said:
A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
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YEP!
And same goes for wifi.....
wifi and cell radios can really eat up battery if they are trying to maintain a connection in areas where wifi/phone signal is weak. And app like Tasker or Automate can toggle these on and off, depending on your location, and really save battery.
Well, that probably explains a few things. I moved in to a SOLID brick building recently with double glazing everywhere and multiple solid brick internal walls. First time I've ever battled for cell and wifi signal...that does explain a lot. I guess 2 days is still pretty good. Might end up with one of those 10,000mah Chinafones eventually ;p
Hi everyone,
I got my new S20 FE just a few days ago, and I'm still getting used to it, but I wonder if having to charge the battery every day on average is "normal" or not.
When I plug the phone into the charger, the battery is never flat. Rather, it's hovering at around 30%, and I usually stop charging when it reaches 85 to 90%. I use the 15W (?) charger that was in the box, so no ultra-quick charge for this one.
I tried to plug it into a Xiaomi/Poco 33W charger for a few minutes, just to see if it would speed things up, but the remaining charging time was the same as with the regular charger so I reverted to it, just to be on the safe side.
Still, I wonder if it's normal to have to recharge the phone every day, when my Poco X3 Pro needed to be charged every two days on average. Granted, the Poco has a bigger battery, but it has an LCD screen instead of an AMOLED.
I spend a lot of time on Twitter, especially in the evening, mostly, but that's it. No gaming of any kind.
What say you?
try this https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s20-series/s20fe-battery/td-p/2988440
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try this https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s20-series/s20fe-battery/td-p/2988440
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Hi,
I've turned Auto brightness off. I'll tell you if it changes anything in terms of battery life. I've also set AOD to fixed brightness instead of auto.
Thanks for the tip!
No problem, thank you for the question!
I think that debloating is not a bad idea, also try to go to all individual apps settings and set the battery to Restricted, except mail and messaging apps, so they won't drain the battery when you're not using them. Lowering the screen refresh rate also helps a bit, as well as restricting mobile data to 4G only, if you don't need 5G. Also, you can limit processor speed, turn Adaptive battery on and Enhanced processing off.
Hi again!
I've changed network settings to 4G and below since my SIM doesn't give me access to 5G yet, but battery life was still iffy. I then changed the network settings to something called "GLOBAL", and it's a bit better, though I don't know what that setting does exactly.
It also depends on how much your using your phone, what apps your running (games vs non-games, etc).
For example, I've played some games, but mainly have been on the internet via apps like social media, email, web browser.
I'm currently at 55% And it's been over 24 hours since I last fully charged it. The Battery graph says based on how I've been using the phone that I still have about 1d 3h left.
I do usually charge once a day, but it's definitely more than 24 hours after the last charge. I went to bed last night with over 62% left after having charged it probably 12 hours prior. When I woke up this morning, it was done to 59% and since then, is now at 55%.
So I've been pretty pleased with the battery life for me. Whether that's good or bad, I have no idea but it's definitely better than my last phone.
I don't do games on my phone (in fact, I don't do games at all, period), but I think the AOD being set on automatic lighting could have something to do with my relatively poor battery life. I'll try to set it to a fixed brightness and see if it changes things, though the brightness scale is pretty rudimentary. Maybe the light sensor is turned off when automatic brightness is off.
I usually spend more time on Twitter when I'm on the phone, so this could explain that.
Another possible factor is my application launcher: I use Microsoft Launcher, which I adore, but every time I wake up the screen, it does a position fix to update the weather widget. That could also explain why my battery drains faster than I expected.
I've just set AOD to fixed brightness. I'll tell you if it helps or not. Thanks for your input anyway!
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I don't do games on my phone (in fact, I don't do games at all, period), but I think the AOD being set on automatic lighting could have something to do with my relatively poor battery life. I'll try to set it to a fixed brightness and see if it changes things, though the brightness scale is pretty rudimentary. Maybe the light sensor is turned off when automatic brightness is off.
I usually spend more time on Twitter when I'm on the phone, so this could explain that.
Another possible factor is my application launcher: I use Microsoft Launcher, which I adore, but every time I wake up the screen, it does a position fix to update the weather widget. That could also explain why my battery drains faster than I expected.
I've just set AOD to fixed brightness. I'll tell you if it helps or not. Thanks for your input anyway!
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I used to use Microsoft Launcher, but then switched to Nova launcher. However, since getting this phone, I've moved to OneUI and I'm loving it. I haven't really changed anything. AOD is set to whatever it was out of the box and I've been on Twitter and the web since I last posted and I'm currently at 53%.
I think I have seen MS Launcher be a battery hog if I remember. Nova isn't as bad, but OneUI seems to work great.
Also, the number and type of widgets you have installed could also cause battery drain. For me, I only have one screen. I use smart widgets to "stack" widgets I need which are calendar, weather (from WeatherBug), Brave Search, PowerAmp (for music) and then the phone maintenance widget. So far, battery life is pretty good like I've said.
You can also go into Settings->Battery and Device Care and maybe check in there to see what might be eating up your battery the most.
I like the look and feel of MS Launcher, compared to others (I believe I've tried them all over the years...), even if I have to admit Nova is a close second. MS Launcher is a possible culprit, obviously. I may switch back to One UI to check how things are going, I don't know.
I've just topped-off the battery, and just idling, the phone is supposed to last over 2 days until the next charge, but I know it won't last that long.
So I got my phone used (only 2 months, still has back poly attached) and it came with august 1 update and the battery drain on it is abysmal. I can see the battery go down while I'm browsing insta or whatever, not even gaming. You know what instantly fixed it? Downclocking my gpu and cpu using FKM. But this is not a pretty solution as it requires root and I would like to experience stock without root for a bit.
Which makes me think the system isn't properly downclocking the soc when idle leading to increased drain. I would like to know if anyone has a better fix than just disabling all the options on your phone.
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So I got my phone used (only 2 months, still has back poly attached) and it came with august 1 update and the battery drain on it is abysmal. I can see the battery go down while I'm browsing insta or whatever, not even gaming. You know what instantly fixed it? Downclocking my gpu and cpu using FKM. But this is not a pretty solution as it requires root and I would like to experience stock without root for a bit.
Which makes me think the system isn't properly downclocking the soc when idle leading to increased drain. I would like to know if anyone has a better fix than just disabling all the options on your phone.
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Well, considering it's used (was it refurbished or did you purchase it off eBay or some other market)? That might be why it was being sold. You said 2 months. Does that mean it was only used for 2 months or you've had it for 2 months? If the phone itself is only 2 months old, who knows how the previous owner used the phone.
Did you do a factory reset when you got it to ensure it was back to stock settings? If so, then it might be your battery is bad and could be the reason it was sold/returned by the previous owner. If you haven't factory reset it, that is possibly the only other option that I can think of if you've already rooted and downclocked it.
Mine was new when I got it a few weeks ago and the battery lasts 1.5 days for me, even with the refresh rate set to 120 Hz. And that's with moderate use (playing games a bit, browsing the web, texting, phone calls).
You might want to try setting your screen refresh to 60 Hz to see if that helps as well if you haven't done that yet.
Go to Settings->Display->Motion Smoothness and select "Standard" to set it to 60 Hz refresh. That will save some battery as well.
See if that helps as well. If not, and as I stated, if you haven't done a factory reset, that might be your only other option unless someone else has something I haven't thought of.
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Well, considering it's used (was it refurbished or did you purchase it off eBay or some other market)? That might be why it was being sold. You said 2 months. Does that mean it was only used for 2 months or you've had it for 2 months? If the phone itself is only 2 months old, who knows how the previous owner used the phone.
Did you do a factory reset when you got it to ensure it was back to stock settings? If so, then it might be your battery is bad and could be the reason it was sold/returned by the previous owner. If you haven't factory reset it, that is possibly the only other option that I can think of if you've already rooted and downclocked it.
Mine was new when I got it a few weeks ago and the battery lasts 1.5 days for me, even with the refresh rate set to 120 Hz. And that's with moderate use (playing games a bit, browsing the web, texting, phone calls).
You might want to try setting your screen refresh to 60 Hz to see if that helps as well if you haven't done that yet.
Go to Settings->Display->Motion Smoothness and select "Standard" to set it to 60 Hz refresh. That will save some battery as well.
See if that helps as well. If not, and as I stated, if you haven't done a factory reset, that might be your only other option unless someone else has something I haven't thought of.
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Yeah I got it from a store second hand. Came with the back poly still attached and no damages on the body. A killer deal. As for the battery issue, I had flashed wrong region stock rom. After learning what csc meant and figuring out I was on the wrong region I flashed the right rom and now my battery life is top notch. On a side note it has only 54 charge cycles after I got it.
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Yeah I got it from a store second hand. Came with the back poly still attached and no damages on the body. A killer deal. As for the battery issue, I had flashed wrong region stock rom. After learning what csc meant and figuring out I was on the wrong region I flashed the right rom and now my battery life is top notch. On a side note it has only 54 charge cycles after I got it.
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Even though the phone is reaching 2 years since it's release, I've been very happy with it. My S7 finally died over a week ago after 5+ years of dependable service.
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Even though the phone is reaching 2 years since it's release, I've been very happy with it. My S7 finally died over a week ago after 5+ years of dependable service.
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This is actually the second device I bought this year. At first I upgraded my Redmi Note 5 Pro which gave me 4 years of great service. Could have reached 5 but then I would not be able to exchange it so I did and got a Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g. Considering how much I paid for it I was more or less satisfied except the camera. Then I bought this after months of careful consideration and also because it was a killer deal. I got a brand new device for half the price. Flagship specs at 33k bdt. You can't get a better deal.