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anyone feel like theyre being throttled by tmo? im in the socal region and i dont even have 500mB used for unlimited data. i think i read somewhere they will hold your speed back if youve used over a gig or two, but 500megs?
btw, i usually get >2mb/s, but recently have been getting .5mb/s..
No throttling in Dallas. I tethered my laptop to download a ~700 Mb file this past weekend (I don't usually do that, but I needed to). Still pulling anywhere from 2-4 Mb/s
Possibly network upgrades happening.
(Give them a call and find out)
Bandwidth can be throttled by the number of users, more users less bandwidth to go around.
I Just talked to a csr at tmo and if you have unlimited data with the nexus you will not be throttled OR capped.
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hopefully there are network updates/upgrades being done. this has been the case since friday.
yeah, it's not throttling. they would push you below 500 kb/s if that were the case.
in my city, 500 kb/s is the most we get on T-Mo's 3G.. oh well.
I use around 5 gbs a month, no throttling here
Wouldn't they just shut off your 3g and force you to use edge speeds?
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hopefully there are network updates/upgrades being done. this has been the case since friday.
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Same issue here - Chicago area. Dropped calls, no service, Emergency calls only and lousy 3G coverage. On G1 and N1. Hoping it's an upgrade....
I seriously doubt t-mobile is throttle speeds. On ATT in la I pull down 2.5 mbps though.
btw are you guys on the android plan?
i doubt it... tmobile has half of the subscribers that ATT does and has just as good of a network... they have no reason to throttle people...
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i doubt it... tmobile has half of the subscribers that ATT does and has just as good of a network... they have no reason to throttle people...
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i would say they are better, they know they have android power users and treat us as such, not like childish data wasters like AT&T has done. They also have been recently updating their network that surpasses AT&T soon enough.
^agreed, their network upgrades makes my n1 worthwhile, also I've been with them for about 6.5 years because they're the cheapest and they've got pretty good customer service
Anybody's feedback or expierence much appreciated
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Need LTE?
If you answered "yes" go to 1.
If you answered "no" go to 2.
1. Galaxy Note l717 LTE
2. Galaxy Note GT-N7000
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Need LTE?
If you answered "yes" go to 1.
If you answered "no" go to 2.
1. Galaxy Note l717 LTE
2. Galaxy Note GT-N7000
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Well I'm on T-Mobile 4g unlimited data plan
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Seriously, dude? An extremely quick Google search would give you the answer.
For starters, the AT-T version of the Note will not natively let you use T-Mobile, period. DUH! You can easily hack it to unlock it...and within the last week, someone discovered that flashing a modem file from another phone allows you full access to T-Mobile's 3G/4G network. The International Note (GT-N7000) will only allow you access to EDGE speeds on T-Mobile...what I'm on now.
So, it's your choice.
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Seriously, dude? An extremely quick Google search would give you the answer.
For starters, the AT-T version of the Note will not natively let you use T-Mobile, period. DUH! You can easily hack it to unlock it...and within the last week, someone discovered that flashing a modem file from another phone allows you full access to T-Mobile's 3G/4G network. The International Note (GT-N7000) will only allow you access to EDGE speeds on T-Mobile...what I'm on now.
So, it's your choice.
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I know I read about all what u said, but hows your edge on T-Mobile?
I was just wanting peoples feedback I've read the unlocked international is way faster then at&ts version but of course I'd unlock the att phone
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How's my EDGE? ****ing slow! You won't ever pull more than 200kbps or so down at peak...that's EDGE by default though. It's a completely asinine thing to even have EDGE networks anymore. It's ever more asinine that T-Mobile is so slow at "re-farming" their 1900 band to work with 3G. I tried switching to Straight Talk, but I just got an email today actually that they can't verify my information? :-/
So if speed is a concern to you...go with the AT-T version. Though, you'll miss out on all the tremendous development here...which I think is more important than speed.
Edit: I've done speed test, where it's slower than 28.8k dial-up, and it brings back terrible childhood memories.
Wonder if u an flashthe T-Mobile modem on the international version
thanks for your feedback
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Wonder if u an flashthe T-Mobile modem on the international version
thanks for your feedback
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Edit nevermind the international will never be capable of 4glte speeds so never would it have 4g T-Mobile data
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T-Mobile does not have LTE yet...and no this phone will never be capable of LTE. Who cares though? You honestly want a phone that can download at 343455MBPS and eat through your costly data plan in half an hour? You won't be able to tell the difference loading a web page at 5MBPS vs 50MBPS...or how ever fast LTE is supposed to be. It's all a marketing scam, just like the notion of a "limited" supply of bandwidth that all mobile manufactures force feed people with their outrageous prices and stupid caps.
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T-Mobile does not have LTE yet...and no this phone will never be capable of LTE. Who cares though? You honestly want a phone that can download at 343455MBPS and eat through your costly data plan in half an hour? You won't be able to tell the difference loading a web page at 5MBPS vs 50MBPS...or how ever fast LTE is supposed to be. It's all a marketing scam, just like the notion of a "limited" supply of bandwidth that all mobile manufactures force feed people with their outrageous prices and stupid caps.
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So would u get the international over the att I'm using tmobile4g 60 unlimited plan 2gb of 4g data then after 2g is used it goes to 2g per month or leave tmobile and try straight talk I'm not in a contract btw
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No contract? That's simple then! Straight Talk plus International...you get the best phone, and you don't have to go directly through AT-T...it's a win win! :-D
Trying to got Straight Talk myself, but they seem not to like the fact that I'm trying to use my T-Mobile number with an AT-T SIM...plus I have a 200 dollar contract cancellation fee. I wish I was in your boat.
As others have said, coming from Tmo myself, the choice is to get the international version with Straight Talk or the ATT version and keep T mobile. Honestly, I feel that this phone is a media hog and deserves LTE, as well as an unlimited plan.
Yes you will miss out on development, but if you are satisfied with the stock software then you will not miss much.
I had a feeling a while back while reading the i717 spec sheet that it would work with tmo, and decided to go with Straight Talk. Not a bad plan, but definitely on the slower end of 3G
I would honestly go with whatever comes out cheaper, if it does so by a margin of 100+ dollars
I got the att version In White cheaper than I could find a unlocked international black one, ordered a straight talk sim ill try this out If it sucks ill go unlock and do the T-Mobile hack. I really would of got the international by couldn't find a white one at a good price. I hope I don't regret it looks as the development for the international unlocked is way ahead. My question is would straight talk on the international and att been the same speeds?
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Just got back from Paris. There were H+ networks there which were blindingly fast on the International version. However, I was concerned about exceeding the 50MB usage per day on my Vodafone-IE PAYG SIM, so I stayed on GPRS (yes, GPRS, no EDGE there).
Incidentally, I had no trouble with PAYG SIM card usage. The biggest failing is that if you continue a session beyond midnight without logging off, it keeps you on the previous day's allowance. That actually worked to my advantage, doing the bigger downloads over the midnight hour, to fill the previous day's 50MB. Sigh. The joys of International Roaming.
But at least the Samsung N7000 was faultless. What an incredible phone. Rooted, and stripped to bare bones (but still with Touchwiz) I get less than 1% an hour battery usage. A full day of intermittent (normal) usage left me with 46% after 24 hours. Unbelievable. Why did I bother to buy a spare battery???
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Just got back from Paris. There were H+ networks there which were blindingly fast on the International version. However, I was concerned about exceeding the 50MB usage per day on my Vodafone-IE PAYG SIM, so I stayed on GPRS (yes, GPRS, no EDGE there).
Incidentally, I had no trouble with PAYG SIM card usage. The biggest failing is that if you continue a session beyond midnight without logging off, it keeps you on the previous day's allowance. That actually worked to my advantage, doing the bigger downloads over the midnight hour, to fill the previous day's 50MB. Sigh. The joys of International Roaming.
But at least the Samsung N7000 was faultless. What an incredible phone. Rooted, and stripped to bare bones (but still with Touchwiz) I get less than 1% an hour battery usage. A full day of intermittent (normal) usage left me with 46% after 24 hours. Unbelievable. Why did I bother to buy a spare battery???
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Wow that's some good battery... What software? Did you by any chance make a flashable zip?
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Hi everyone, my network has recently upgraded and has LTE sim cards available. I know the n7000 is not a LTE device but is there any benefit to using the LTE card? Just curious as it is a microsim and I would need to get a sim adapter to work in the n7000.
Thank you for any insight!
Since the Note doesnt support LTE, i very much doubt the "LTE" sim card will make any difference.
But if they are being offered to you for free, take it. its not gonna make your phone self-destruct or anything
my friend has an lte phone. the intenet is very fast but he said he wouldnt buy again an lte phone because its unnecessary.
well when i run it with basic settings its ok but when i add the att pta settings to mine it does run much faster.... you do have to have att's system thinking you have an att note and not the international one. might not be lte speed but mine goes pretty fast...
if you get an LTE sim card in Note 1, you are cued up to get LTE service when you switch your phone to an LTE phone.
I'm thinking of getting one. $9 for the card, I cue myself up for LTE when I get an LTE capable phone. In the meantime, I still get the same quota of 6gb for the same price but now I have LTE.
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well when i run it with basic settings its ok but when i add the att pta settings to mine it does run much faster.... you do have to have att's system thinking you have an att note and not the international one. might not be lte speed but mine goes pretty fast...
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What speed do you get? I get on average 11-12mbs on hsdpa +. More than happy.
from the man hiding in your attic....
Where are you and what carrier to get 11mbps on HSPA+? Im in UK on 3 and get 8.
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a little story from my country, in Indonesia, if we not in big city, like jakarta, yogyakarta, or bali, it's only get EDGE signal man, it's suck(sorry).. if i can get the HSDPA signal for a while, it really make me happy, and after that or you go to another place or go iside house, you go back to EDGE.......
I wonder how fast LTE is, and network on your country, someday maybe, thanks for reading..
I'm not into lte, at least not now since lte coverage is limited to a few cities in my country (Switzerland) and the prices are still far too high. Maybe in a year or so when the coverage will be better.
Back on topic: No yiu wont benefit from a lte capable sim card if your phone does not support lte.
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What speed do you get? I get on average 11-12mbs on hsdpa +. More than happy.
from the man hiding in your attic....
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well my sim gives the cingular 410 apn stock when sim inserted and it gets 4-6mbps... when i change it to pta settings i get 13-17mbps... it works because att's comps show me having the att ver. when it shows unkown it doesnt go any faster than the 410.... and no i didnt steal a imei... just made a dummy that att comps like and think is a working 717...
I am currently on ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S III and I was thinking about switching to TMobile since they have unlimited data and also because ATT has the locked bootloader. The problem is, I am scared of switching to a new service provider. I tried asking around the office and I can't find ANYONE that has TMobile (At least not in the past year or two).
So my question is for people who currently have TMobile. How is the coverage? The speed? There isn't LTE here for TMobile but there is for ATT but I read that the 3.5g that TMobile has is pretty fast.
Any advice either way?
P.S. Please don't go out of your way bashing the other carriers, I am just asking to help me pick the best network for myself and my HTC One. If you have had both carriers, feel free to comment on both. But if you haven't had ATT, please don't bash it (and vice versa)
Once again, if you have had TMobile in the past year or so, please let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Rob
AT&T HTC One running on T-Mobile 3G. My town finally got refarmed the phone constantly bounces around EDGE, H, and H+ = Battery Drain
But the speeds are pretty impressive, well compared to EDGE. I can literally walk around the house and have it switch between Data Speeds.
Coverage within the City is constant full bars, but now that they started refarming the area it's spotty 3G. For me though it's worth it. AT&T in my area has better coverage when it comes to the suburban areas, but the prices do not compare T-Mobile wins hands down.
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I am currently on ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S III and I was thinking about switching to TMobile since they have unlimited data and also because ATT has the locked bootloader. The problem is, I am scared of switching to a new service provider. I tried asking around the office and I can't find ANYONE that has TMobile (At least not in the past year or two).
So my question is for people who currently have TMobile. How is the coverage? The speed? There isn't LTE here for TMobile but there is for ATT but I read that the 3.5g that TMobile has is pretty fast.
Any advice either way?
P.S. Please don't go out of your way bashing the other carriers, I am just asking to help me pick the best network for myself and my HTC One. If you have had both carriers, feel free to comment on both. But if you haven't had ATT, please don't bash it (and vice versa)
Once again, if you have had TMobile in the past year or so, please let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Rob
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It all depends on where you live. If you have service nothing is better value than T-Mobile in my opinion.
Well in my opinion I have had t mobile, Verizon and at&t. It all comes down to service I get 20-50 mbps on art lte constantly, T-Mobile can be iffy from time to time if in a rural area and well the price if unlimited plus the price of paying for the phone each month comes close to att. The one thing over the years I have learned is loyalty can go a long way and when your needing that upgrade early it does pay off being with your provider for a while. I hope this helps out and this is just an opinion of mine.
Btw the bootloader is unlockable for att
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Tmobile of you got good coverage in your area.
I am in the same boat, I've had Tmobile in the past and while the customer service is 10x better than AT&T I could never stick with them due to coverage being an issue. However, the area has recently been upgraded and coverage seems to be much better so I think I'm going to switch soon. Not to mention AT&T stopped offering military discount, while Tmo has the best military discount of any carrier.
Yeah, it really depends where you live. Minneapolis area has great coverage. I plan on switching back to them in June (currently on AT&T).
Don't be afraid of T-Mobile...
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So I ended up buying 2 HTC Ones from TMobile, they put a hold on my bank account for 300 dollars and then they cancelled the order. I called them to ask them what was up and they said they are cancelling all HTC One pre-orders that are placed because of an IT issue where the processing system doesn't think any HTC Ones are in stock.
But they are letting the system hit my credit to check if I can get the phone and they are charging my bank account even though they know the system will cancel the order at the end.
That along with the fact I'm not quite sure how good coverage/speed is in Toledo, OH has made my mind up. I'm staying with AT&T.
Thanks everyone for your input
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AT&T HTC One running on T-Mobile 3G. My town finally got refarmed the phone constantly bounces around EDGE, H, and H+ = Battery Drain
But the speeds are pretty impressive, well compared to EDGE. I can literally walk around the house and have it switch between Data Speeds.
Coverage within the City is constant full bars, but now that they started refarming the area it's spotty 3G. For me though it's worth it. AT&T in my area has better coverage when it comes to the suburban areas, but the prices do not compare T-Mobile wins hands down.
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Your just the guy I'm looking for. I'm currently on att with the HTC ONE, but thinking about going to tmobile's prepaid $30 plan. The coverage in Charlotte NC looks good, but I'm not exactly sure because I haven't used it. However, $30 is a great savings. While your out and about, your getting hspa +? But it switches constantly between hspa + and edge?
I have been on ATT in the Chicago burbs for a few years now, been happy and satisfied with their service, no issues, and we have a good plan = 2 lines Unlimited minutes Unlimited texts, and 10GB shared Data for $130/Month. And with me on next it is $155/Month.
But I always like to at least root my Wife's phone for AdAway and XPosed stuff to tweak her phones better, and me I always root, and install Custom Recovery and ROM my phones, right now on a HTC One M8 converted to GPE and love this phone.
My point is, ATT has gotten worse and worse the last 18 months with locking down their phones, even root can take months to come by on flagship phones. And on principle it is really pissing me off, why give ATT money, if they won't even let me customize my phone anymore ? The ATT Note 2 I had two years ago, was the last best ATT phone IMO, I rooted it and ROM'd the heck out of that phone, but sadly with the new Note 4 those days are long gone and history with ATT.
Long story short, does T-Mobile offer competitive plans to what i currently have ? And how is their service in Chicago area ? Thank you
Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:
1. Switch service to T-Mobile. I also live in Chicago. The service isn't as good as AT&T here in the city, or elsewhere. LTE/3G data doesn't penetrate buildings as well. The calling and texting seems to be about the same when towers are near, but I know for a fact that AT&T has them beat in terms of coverage outside of major metro areas. I frequently drive between Chicago and Indianapolis- AT&T has 4G or LTE about 85% of the drive, while T-mobile will barely get phone calls to go through, much less high speed data. T-Mobile is cheaper service than AT&T, but you're getting what you pay for.
2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.
As you said, the AT&T variants are locked down and will probably remain that way. The ONLY note 4 you can buy that has the unlocked bootloader AS WELL AS support for LTE networks in the United States is the T-mobile Note 4. How much of a premium are you willing to pay for having the unlocked bootloader, is what you need to ask yourself. An off contract Note 4 from T-mobile costs $850 after Illinois taxes, and you'll need to activate the line for at least one day, meaning a few more bucks.
Hope that helps. I would go with option #2, especially if you're like me- grandfathered unlimited data from at&t.
obviously, the cost of the note 4's from t-mobile will decrease after the product is widely available and the initial hype dies down. So if you're enjoying your M8, wait a few months and grab a note 4 from swappa.com, ebay, or craigslist
Good points thanks.
I would almost like to test drive T-Mobile first for like a week, see how it is around town and in my office, etc... I am happy with ATT the past couple years, good service, it's just the principle of them locking down phones really irks me, and makes me want to take business elsewhere.
hey man, nice to see you here
I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile
Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..
Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
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hey man, nice to see you here
I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile
Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..
Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
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Hello neighbor
I work in Willowbrook, and most of my business is in the western burbs, so thanks for your input.
And the principle of the idea is pushing me away from ATT, the whole lockdown is so upsetting.
How quick is a port of our numbers from ATT to T-Mobile, if I pick up the Note 4 ?
If I recall, when I switched, the number porting was done by the time we left the store!
just bring in your old ATT bill, and make sure you know the password on your ATT account, and the porting should be really fast..
I am in IL, but downstate and live in the Metro St. Louis area. The comments about T-Mo coverage are spot on. If you are downtown, or within about a 10-15 mile radius of it, you should be good. I was a long time Verizon customer, and I jumped to T-Mo when VZW pissed me off with that "network optimization" nonsense.
My experience at the office with T-Mo has been great. Faster even that Verizon. At home (30 miles NE of downtown STL) it is a different story. Maybe 1 bar of HSPA (never LTE) inside my house. I don't travel much, so I can't comment there yet, but I will say that if you spend a lot of time on the road you probably are best off buying the T-Mo Note 4 and staying with AT&T.
I really like what T-Mo is trying to do, they just have to get more towers out there.
Porting the number takes less than 30 seconds flat... It is incredibly fast. (done it already with 2 lines from AT&T to T-Mobile) Now I have 3 lines in total with T-Mobile, (an old one plus 2 new ones coming from AT&T)
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I am in IL, but downstate and live in the Metro St. Louis area. The comments about T-Mo coverage are spot on. If you are downtown, or within about a 10-15 mile radius of it, you should be good. I was a long time Verizon customer, and I jumped to T-Mo when VZW pissed me off with that "network optimization" nonsense.
My experience at the office with T-Mo has been great. Faster even that Verizon. At home (30 miles NE of downtown STL) it is a different story. Maybe 1 bar of HSPA (never LTE) inside my house. I don't travel much, so I can't comment there yet, but I will say that if you spend a lot of time on the road you probably are best off buying the T-Mo Note 4 and staying with AT&T.
I really like what T-Mo is trying to do, they just have to get more towers out there.
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you know you can get them to "give" you a asus router, so you get a super wifi signal in your house, for data and calling...
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you know you can get them to "give" you a asus router, so you get a super wifi signal in your house, for data and calling...
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Thanks, but I already have a better WiFi solution than their router. I had them send me their new LTE Booster and it helps a little, but it is still very spotty.
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Thanks, but I already have a better WiFi solution than their router. I had them send me their new LTE Booster and it helps a little, but it is still very spotty.
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can I ask what solution you have that is better than a free AC router?
I had the asus RT-AC87, but returned it, because I got the same wifi speeds from the T-Mobile router, as I did from the $300 RT87..
How did you get tmo to give you an Asus router? I just switched from att to tmo here in jersey and my reason was for cheaper prices. I'm still within my 14 days but I will say I'm impressed so far. Greats LTE speeds, no issues with calls. I have derive at work & home so I think I'll be staying. I'm on the note 3 now waiting for n4 pre-order.
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How did you get tmo to give you an Asus router? I just switched from att to tmo here in jersey and my reason was for cheaper prices. I'm still within my 14 days but I will say I'm impressed so far. Greats LTE speeds, no issues with calls. I have derive at work & home so I think I'll be staying. I'm on the note 3 now waiting for n4 pre-order.
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info here and via google..
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobiles-CellSpot-Wi-Fi-router-available-now_id60802
https://www.google.com/search?utm_s...tmobile+wifi+router+available+date&gws_rd=ssl
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Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:
2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.
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So can you confirm the t mobile note 4 works fine with 4g lte on att? How did you unlock it? I current have the att note 3 on contract so would be paying out of contract prices and it seems to make more sense to go with t mobile if I want to customize it at some point or switch to t mobile later on. Also the t mobile note 4 is cheaper out of contract than att. If you are currently using the t mobile note 4 on att and everything works that's the route I'm going to go too. Just waiting for someone to verify that works as there are some threads with people having issues when going this route with the note 3. I've also heard if att ever asks for your imei or other phone info you should give them the numbers from an older att phone so they don't blacklist you and block you from using lte.
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So can you confirm the t mobile note 4 works fine with 4g lte on att? How did you unlock it? I current have the att note 3 on contract so would be paying out of contract prices and it seems to make more sense to go with t mobile if I want to customize it at some point or switch to t mobile later on. Also the t mobile note 4 is cheaper out of contract than att. If you are currently using the t mobile note 4 on att and everything works that's the route I'm going to go too. Just waiting for someone to verify that works as there are some threads with people having issues when going this route with the note 3. I've also heard if att ever asks for your imei or other phone info you should give them the numbers from an older att phone so they don't blacklist you and block you from using lte.
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correct about the imei. phone's working fine for me. speed tests are great, no issues with any LTE coverage. Maybe a little better than my previous phone- the T-mo Note 3 unlocked on AT&T.
I found a seller on eBay who got me the code. There's a thread in the questions/problems section that discusses my guys and all the other sellers.