Thank you Samsung for letting down the 910U. There are absolutely no excuses to take so much time to update all variants. Too many variants and inability to maintain them... Never expected releases to come as fast as on my Nexus 5, but that bad is really a shame (Other manufacturers have already updated their flagships)
With all these different models of the same phone, Samsung has managed to create an extra fragmentation level of the already fragmented Android. Amazing.
And I don't want to hear that is maybe because we'll get a newer version than 5.0.1 or an improved Touchwiz (Like was speculated as an explanation for the very slow initial rollout of Lollipop). Most likely well get finally 5.0.1 when everybody will be on 5.1
I came back to Samsung after a few years (My last one was a Tab 7.7). Definitely amazing hardware each band every time. The software side (incl speed of new releases) is still a shame.
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Have to agree on the hardware front. Amazing, sleek and sexy. For the OS part though it's definitely a let down. I wish they would just apk all of their bloat and just let us use it on any non tw OS. No hidden or private api baked into a slow ui. My sister is running a S4 and laughing because she has LP and I can't even get it. Hell it's not even announced for my version.
i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for
I wonder if they limit variations because there's not any more letter in alphabet or what?
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i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for
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pretty crap when the F and G use the same hardware but different bootloader and modems - would have taken very little time to get a global release for the two models at the same time.
Calm Down untill the Final Release
SM-N910C user here, I feel your pain But you guys should not forget that the Lollipop releases for Note 4 are not final , are more like test builds thats why it is not availble outside of the world except Poland. In essence , more than 90% of Note 4 users didn't receive Lollipop. I have installed Lollipop and I am pretty confident that it needs some tuning and fixing before the worlwide roll out so hopefuly every use gets straight the Final build in some weeks time and not a test build like some lucky N910C-F users!
The Real let down would be in the case where the Final Worlwide release is ready for some variants and not for everyone or the others who didn't receive the final update and receive a test build like now Here there is no space for excuses
Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4
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Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Its not about getting life or what, but put urself on our shoes. What would u feel if everyone's got the lollipop amd u were left alone not having it? Good or bad is another matter. Being up to date is what xda is all about. At least that is why i joined xda.
I am totally with you, i know samsung for long time, and i know that they will not release the 5.1 for the 910u version because we didn't get the 5.0.1. in fact, we will get the 5.0.1 when the C gets close to the 5.1 . i am not mad or saying this because i hate samsung, i replied to tell you again Don't give your hopes on samsung to give you something that you want. I can tell from now that we can get the 5.0.1 version in 15 days from now, but without any change of the C version and maybe more buggy than it .
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We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4
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I do hope indeed...
Again the hardware on Note 4 is amazing (That's why I bought it over the Nexus 6). Hopefully Samsung will get its act together and deliver decent software (from an AOSP perspective) KINF OF on time....
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I agree i purchased the 910U over the 910G in australia and now i wished i got the C. Im sure when lollipop comes finally for the U porting C roms will become the norm and we'll keep up to date. God knows as well as us that samsung wont keep up..
I live in HK where U is the default model.
Weeks are passing... Still no sign. This is really not serious for a phone that's less than 6 months old.
Yep its a big fkn joke.
You should try being in Canada with a W8 model
The W8 model of of the note series is always the last to be updated let's just hope we get a fixed version.
Phone runs fine without Lollipop. If you read about how many are switching back from Lollipop, not in any hurry to get it myself.
Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
And why oh why do people keep contributing to what they call whiney threads?! And whining themselves about them! Nothing wrong with whining every now and again, should people on forums all be constantly happy? Is it written in the rules?
Please of please skip the thread of it upsets you so much! Ffs!
I too am upset and want to wine, getting really impatient
I have the 910U From new Zealand on Spark network...
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Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
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To be fair the issues encountered with the first versions of Lollipop should be put to the credit of Google. On that they screwed up massively and even the Nexus line suffers from it (I also have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7). It's hard to blame the phone makers on this.
Nevertheless time passes by, most of flagships have been updated to Lollipop and... quite a number of Note 4 haven't. Samsung weakness on the software side is blatant (while they indeed design excellent hardware, the Note 4 and the S 6 are very good example of this)
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Okay first of all, I have only made one ROM ever, so I am not the brightest on this subject. My question though is for a Dev that is fairly smart. Would it be possible for those itching to have lollipop on their Note 4, but who don't want to lose Touchwiz features, to install the international Note 3 5.0 ROM on their Note 4 if a Dev would port it. If its possible why hasn't some talented dev( because there are several here) ported it yet. I know the structure would be a little different, but I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to port it with some tinkering. Just let me know if I am way off base or if this would be something to really look at.
why would anyone bother trying to port the note 3 version, when the actual Note 4 version will be here any day?
anyone anxious to try lollipop has several AOSP type roms to try, so waiting for the TW version is no big deal at this point
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Okay first of all, I have only made one ROM ever, so I am not the brightest on this subject. My question though is for a Dev that is fairly smart. Would it be possible for those itching to have lollipop on their Note 4, but who don't want to lose Touchwiz features, to install the international Note 3 5.0 ROM on their Note 4 if a Dev would port it. If its possible why hasn't some talented dev( because there are several here) ported it yet. I know the structure would be a little different, but I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to port it with some tinkering. Just let me know if I am way off base or if this would be something to really look at.
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why would anyone bother trying to port the note 3 version, when the actual Note 4 version will be here any day?
anyone anxious to try lollipop has several AOSP type roms to try, so waiting for the TW version is no big deal at this point
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Because no one really knows when the note 4 version will be here, as far as I know. Also I'm just going by the sheer volume of Roms available, I would think a correct Note 3 port would have been highly popular. Honestly AOSP Roms just won't work for a lot of Samsung fans, someone who wants to take full advantage of their Gear watch, or other samsung products linked to Touchwiz enabled devices.
good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
Most people will just wait. Porting over a waste of time for devs. Now if they knew 5.0 would never come then that is a different story.
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good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
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I agree it is an insult to Samsung fans to neglect your customers like that.
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good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
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Most people will just wait. Porting over a waste of time for devs. Now if they knew 5.0 would never come then that is a different story.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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But we never really know when it will be here, it could be November. The sad fact is the Note 5 may be out by the time Samsung gets it done, and the carriers finish adding bloat, and finally decide its time to release it. Even if you are just waiting for the international version to release, we have no clue when that may be.
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But we never really know when it will be here, it could be November. The sad fact is the Note 5 may be out by the time Samsung gets it done, and the carriers finish adding bloat, and finally decide its time to release it. Even if you are just waiting for the international version to release, we have no clue when that may be.
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Blame TMOBILE lol. They can push Samsung in getting it done. Then Samsung will say we done tomible has it lol. Either way. I feel bad for all those waiting daily for it to drop. I for one will stay with nk4. Lollipop will not offer me much from what I can see so far.
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Blame TMOBILE lol. They can push Samsung in getting it done. Then Samsung will say we done tomible has it lol. Either way. I feel bad for all those waiting daily for it to drop. I for one will stay with nk4. Lollipop will not offer me much from what I can see so far.
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I get that, but can you honestly say if the ROM was available you wouldn't flash it and try it out giddily?
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I get that, but can you honestly say if the ROM was available you wouldn't flash it and try it out giddily?
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Honestly I would not flash it. Not a fan of the look and the pull down menu. I actually like stock for this phone. Tried flashing most that are here and always found my way back to stock deodex.
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Honestly I would not flash it. Not a fan of the look and the pull down menu. I actually like stock for this phone. Tried flashing most that are here and always found my way back to stock deodex.
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Idk, but being the tinkerer you are, like me, I can't see you passing up the ROM, at least to try it.
Lollipop Rom
It's funny that we don't have a port for the Note 4 and over at the Note 3 forum section
They have a Note 4 port!!! Note 4!!! For the Note 3!?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-tw-note-4-port-5-0-1-darklord-rom-1-t3017604
I know its coming but I do want a tw lollipop that runs well every other aosp ROM gets my phone really hot and I hate that although I appreciate the work the devs do porting them.
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It's funny that we don't have a port for the Note 4 and over at the Note 3 forum section
They have a Note 4 port!!! Note 4!!! For the Note 3!?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-tw-note-4-port-5-0-1-darklord-rom-1-t3017604
I know its coming but I do want a tw lollipop that runs well every other aosp ROM gets my phone really hot and I hate that although I appreciate the work the devs do porting them.
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Yeah this is pretty crazy how Ironic it must be nice.I just hope when we get it for the note 4 it was worth the wait.
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The reason that nothing has been ported to this device is we need the kernel gods to do their thing. Any day now. Kernel is the issue for us right now.
Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
Would be good if the 910G snapdragon variant actually got lollipop....
**** Samsung, getting iPhone 6 soon if LP is not released anytime soon!
Mate that's a crazy thing to say... I would still prefer 4.4 then own another iphone
Agreed, at least some info would be nice. I'm running lollipop on a few of my other devices now, the note 4 is lagging behind
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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I'm over Samsung ... I never even hardly use the damn pen anymore anyway. I promise myself I will not be back again. This BS with a million models and other crud... NO GOOD SAMSUNG!
oh stop bull****ting .
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
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Hoping for honesty from the PR arm of an international chaebol is like nicely asking a stone if it wouldn't mind bleeding a bit. It also assumes that they are even remotely interested in providing these kinds of updates, that they communicate with the developers, and that they have that information in the first place. They've done their job already - you've bought a Note 4, so why should they care? Besides which, if they've already stated a timeframe previously, and been unable to meet it, they're going to be very cautious about announcing anything else apart from "it'll be ready when it's ready", and even that is unlikely compared to simply remaining silent.
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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This is totally true....why get a device like the Note 4 if you are ok with Gingerbread...I don't understand people who get such a good phone and don;t know how to eve use it...but rather use it for calls and messages only...
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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tr1cky1 said:
Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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I sincerely hope this post is a joke; if I merely cared about apps I'd own an iPhone.
I bought a 800€ smartphone i espect to have the lastest and best software. Thats why so many people is going from android to iOS. If you have a iPhonne 6+ you have the lastest iOS. Next time a change smartphonne i am going to think twice before have Android or iOS, and for me Nexus line are no option, ugly and overrated. For me Samsung or HTC or LG (this two allready have 5.0 Lolipop)
I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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why i want lollipop and Samsung to treat us better
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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iPhone are great for fluidity and fast updates, but they lack the customization and freedom that android offers even with Jailbreak.
Also , I don't know if you need glasses or not, but the note 4 camera beats the iPhone any day in good light situations...both in photos and videos.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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Yeah I didn't have major problems but the battery is worse and it just wasn't as smooth and quick as it was on kitkat. I didn't have the app redraws that others had but I put that down to a full wipe before and after the update.
Hi everybody
another bad news :http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/16...ont-ever-get-most-of-the-galaxy-s6s-features/
as you can see on my signature , i was fan of sony , me and so many other people boycotted sony because of its bad support and its lies ...
i switched to note 3 , mmmm i should say that was good , very goon in compare of sony products . after that i decided to upgrade to note 4 . unfortunately , those days , samsung's policy is confusing me :http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/shealths-spo2-stress-level-removed-t3157312
i donno why Samsung want to give its technology with dropper ! no theme store , no 64 bit unlock , this country have shealth option and another counter shouldn't have , no new touchwiz ... and as you can hear these days , the 5.1.1 update on note 4 will be the same as 5.0.1 on my high end phone ... it seems samsung don't care about users requests. do u think its hard for samsung to port the new touchwiz on note 4 ? or its impossible to open the theme store for note 4 ?
this kind of attitude remind me what sony said on xperia mini pro ( the hardware can't support multitouch ==> but a developer did ) and on xperia play ( is not compatible with android 4.0 m the drive problem ==> but a developer solved )
you know , i don't like apple phones , but when people talking about apple product support , i want to respect them and say OSSSSSS...,
yeah , the samsung's policy is not user friendly and i can see the they are losing their customer ! I hate the DROPPER policy ...
Agree agree Samsung forgot everything about note 4 they don't care about us , the only thing they care is about money when they lunch there product they like uuu we have the best of the best this device can this and that and bla bla and after a few weeks they **** on our faces and make a note 5 that can do everything and have the latest update .
So take it as a Samsung user from s4 n2 n3 N4 do never ever buy this broken phone again I swear I've used so many time trying to flash and reflash wipe installing fixing it like a disses so promise me do never buy Samsung broken phone this N4 is my last note 4 , I'm going for nexus series next buy p3obly when I've paid this broken phone
They promise and promise and nothing happens
so true, Note 4 is a lovely device. Samsung is ruining it. I am going for a iPhone or a nexus next time. I wish Note 5 sales cripple so that they get the message. After being with Samsung for more than 5 years starting with Galaxy S I9000, Note 4 is my last
This is my last samsung device, only motorola/nexus or iphone for upgrades.
If it is about hardware limitation I can understand that .
But to port most of the new S6 stuff to Note 4 by developers from xda ........... that is something unacceptable from Samsung.
They should learn from Apple .... nearly all the new software features in the new iPhone will be available in the previous iPhones , and they are really selling very well.
Why they think if they make S6 software stuff available in Note 4, no one will buy S6 or Note 5 ??????
Any way my Note 4 still with 4.4.4 & because Samsung doesn't provide any new features I don't trust their updates & I believe they send updates to make more lag so you buy newer hardware.
I feel Samsung is selling us Smart feature phones with TouchWize where there is no ability to update or develop.
The update policy is definitely the biggest perversion in the smartphone business!
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If it is about hardware limitation I can understand that .
But to port most of the new S6 stuff to Note 4 by developers from xda ........... that is something unacceptable from Samsung.
They should learn from Apple .... nearly all the new software features in the new iPhone will be available in the previous iPhones , and they are really selling very well.
Why they think if they make S6 software stuff available in Note 4, no one will buy S6 or Note 5 ??????
Any way my Note 4 still with 4.4.4 & because Samsung doesn't provide any new features I don't trust their updates & I believe they send updates to make more lag so you buy newer hardware.
I feel Samsung is selling us Smart feature phones with TouchWize where there is no ability to update or develop.
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i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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I bought note 3 , note 4 for spen feature that is necessary for my job , as i said , the note 3 support was better and that was the reason to upgrade to note 4 (( i gave note 3 to my wife )) . further to the mentioned problems , i had so many driver fault on my phone till previous week ! my phone is exynos version and has so many GPU driver bug ... on previous week , i had to change my krenel again and finally googy kernel helped me.
i hard for me to say , but i think to say goodbye to samsung..
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so true, Note 4 is a lovely device. Samsung is ruining it. I am going for a iPhone or a nexus next time. I wish Note 5 sales cripple so that they get the message. After being with Samsung for more than 5 years starting with Galaxy S I9000, Note 4 is my last
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An iPhone??? Seriously?
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This is my last samsung device, only motorola/nexus or iphone for upgrades.
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And you too?
I've happily owned the note, note 2 (twice), 3 (OnePlus One and then nexus 5) then note 4 (easily the best phone I've owned and current). This is my last Samsung though.
I'm looking forward to the Oneplus 2. Without removable battery and sd card slot, there is just no point in buying a note 5 (unless you are desperate for the s pen - which I use once or twice a week so I'm not!) and spending more than twice on a comparable sized device.
The OPO was awesome, but at the time screen sensitivity was poor until fixed by a release - of which they are so much quicker than Samsung have ever been!
Sammy is going down the swanny.:crying:
I think XDA members are never happy with any phone and never will. No 64bit? WOW what a huge difference.. really? No themes, omg lets buy an iphone. This logic is driving me crazy
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i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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I think XDA members are never happy with any phone and never will. No 64bit? WOW what a huge difference.. really? No themes, omg lets buy an iphone. This logic is driving me crazy
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the main logic in 2015 to keep customer is customer support . the people pay money and want best support , surely if something make them unhappy , they will think on change their next upgrade ... yes , its true about the technology market !
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I bought note 3 , note 4 for spen feature that is necessary for my job , as i said , the note 3 support was better and that was the reason to upgrade to note 4 (( i gave note 3 to my wife )) . further to the mentioned problems , i had so many driver fault on my phone till previous week ! my phone is exynos version and has so many GPU driver bug ... on previous week , i had to change my krenel again and finally googy kernel helped me.
i hard for me to say , but i think to say goodbye to samsung..
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note 3 support was better seriously? its still using a very bad software. while i was using note 3 i decided that it will be my last samsung device but after note 4 came out i tested new software and i was satisfied about it and except call screen delay and gpu bug they made really a better software on lollipop way smoother and stable for me compared to kitkat. since i dont have any game on my phone gpu bug doesnt bother me aswell.
you can think whatever you want but trust me note 4 lollipop is way better than s6 s. i never use my s6 edge terrible battery life and worst multitasking experience ever i just think people have no idea about what they want, they just read tw is debloated and its fast and" we should get it omg they are threating us bad etc" its just marketing stuff. lol technology sites even published you can disable or delete useless stuff on s6 and note 4 users were still crying that we need it too and it was just possible on note 4 too.
well dont buy samsung again i really dont care about it but s6 doesnt really use a faster software dont get fooled by fake news. if you arent happy with note 4 its allright grab another phone. but just dont think everything besides your phone is awesome im having too many problems on my 6 plus too. if you can find the perfect phone in future pm me too ill grab it definetly. but until then im pretty sure ill skip note 5 and keep note 4.
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And you too?
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Yep, an iphone.
Why? Because they upgrade their devices to the latest version quickly.
The note 4 is so expensive and now is abandoned by samsung.
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Why? Because they upgrade their devices to the latest version quickly.
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LOL, so you will rather get updates quickly that are already lackluster and 4-5 years after the competition?
What's the point on just having the latest OS version on your phone when that latest version of iOS doesn't bring you anything that the other OS'es doesn't already have had for many years?
That's like saying that you care more about having a higher version number on iOS over what features and stuffs you get. Which in my opinion is stupid.
How many years did it take Apple to get 3rd party keyboards to iOS and how many more years will it takes Apple to get a theme store like every other Android OEMs have now?
Another 5-6 years to get a theme store?
Yeah you get my point.
But you are on XDA-Developers, which also means that if you are getting tired of waiting for Samsung or whoever that makes an Android phone to bring you a new Android version or any fixes, then you have the awesome freedom to fix that yourself here. With iOS, you have to wait for Apple to tell you when you can update your device and how you can use it and so on.
Here you can rather find developers that will fix all of your problems before Samsung or any of the other OEMs would put out any of those fixes themself. And just to take an example on what i'm talking about here. Samsung have said that the Note 4 wont get any of the S6's features and the new S6 TouchWiz UI. But the cool thing here is that someone have ported the S6 Edge ROM to the Note 4 where we have the newest TouchWiz UI and stuffs. The ROMs aren't posted about here on XDA-Developers, so you have to find them yourself.
Here we have the freedom to choose what WE as users of a product want. With iOS, you have to wait for Apple to tell you when you can update your device and how you can use your device after how Apple want's it to be.
EDIT: Samsung haven't abandoned the Note 4 at all. We will get Android M around March-April next year where we will get a new and refreshed TouchWiz UI and many of the features the Note 5 gets anyways.
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Yep, an iphone.
Why? Because they upgrade their devices to the latest version quickly.
The note 4 is so expensive and now is abandoned by samsung.
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Well if that's your only criteria then it's the perfect phone for you.
I guess you are not interested in customising your phone, taking full control over the operating system, file management, mods, or choice of phone. I am also guessing you enjoy being dictated to by what Apple says you can and can't do with your phone or install on your phone.
If you're happy with that then buy an iphone. You will probably have no further need for the XDA community either.
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Does anybody think we'll get at least the new apps(like the gallery and dialer, I really hate our Stock dialer. )?
To me it seems Samsung has wrote off the Note 4, it's hardly had any support since it launched last year, I've now sold mine and gone back to my trusty Nexus 5 which even after nearly 2 years is still great.
I won't be buying the Note 5 or any other Samsung phones from now on, because 6 months down the line the Note 5 will be forgotten in favor of the S7.
I've also recently picked up a cheap Nokia 735, for use with Windows 10 for when it launches in a couple of months, currently testing the preview build of Windows 10 atm on it & it's shaping up to be a very decent OS.
If the apps situation improves with Windows 10 ie ports from both Android & iOS then I may consider switching fully to Windows in the future.
But for the time being at least my next smartphone will be another Nexus device.
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i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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I agree.
Look, at the end of the day there is NOTHING that says Samsung MUST give us new features, when you bought the phone you knew what you were getting, and crying about Samsung not bringing S6 features is laughable, you sound like someone who invested in shares of a company and got mad when they didn't make any profit, that is the risk. When it comes to buying a new gadget you must be happy with what it brings from Day 1.
The mere fact that we even get frequent updates makes us lucky.
If you were complaining about FW Bugs, and features being ruined e.g. GPU being made worse due to a FW Update, then THAT would be understandable as they are not delivering what they promised when you bought the device the GPU was fine.
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note 3 support was better seriously? its still using a very bad software. while i was using note 3 i decided that it will be my last samsung device but after note 4 came out i tested new software and i was satisfied about it and except call screen delay and gpu bug they made really a better software on lollipop way smoother and stable for me compared to kitkat. since i dont have any game on my phone gpu bug doesnt bother me aswell.
you can think whatever you want but trust me note 4 lollipop is way better than s6 s. i never use my s6 edge terrible battery life and worst multitasking experience ever i just think people have no idea about what they want, they just read tw is debloated and its fast and" we should get it omg they are threating us bad etc" its just marketing stuff. lol technology sites even published you can disable or delete useless stuff on s6 and note 4 users were still crying that we need it too and it was just possible on note 4 too.
well dont buy samsung again i really dont care about it but s6 doesnt really use a faster software dont get fooled by fake news. if you arent happy with note 4 its allright grab another phone. but just dont think everything besides your phone is awesome im having too many problems on my 6 plus too. if you can find the perfect phone in future pm me too ill grab it definetly. but until then im pretty sure ill skip note 5 and keep note 4.
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I never liked Galaxy S series man , my only reason to use samsung - mobile is note - series . anyway , that u for sharing your experience
Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.
That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.
Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.
For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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manishvy said:
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
umbrokhan said:
maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen
dr.ketan said:
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!
If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM
!
Tweetytek said:
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM!
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what an unhelpful and useless reply, really!
of course, probably you grow the cow first if you want to have some milk, or maybe build an airplane first if you need to fly to a different city. if you find it reasonable, good for you!
however this does not give any information regading upcoming Android 7 roms for N910F, or why they are not showing up (are there any issues, etc).
lisbon2004 said:
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
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It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
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It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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Yes I have the Note 4 (SM-N910F) and the Tab S (SM-T805) and have Lollipop on both. I am sure that as the Android 7 (Nougat) ROM gets rolled out to phones as opposed to tablets there will be some Nougat ROMs appearing for our Note 4. The person who cooked the Nougat ROM for the Tab S obviously had difficulties getting the telephony to work He says:
"Issues
Graphical glitches on rotation and screen off
RIL, meaning no telephony support so far"
- that is probably why that ROM hasn't been developed further for phones!
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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The tab s has almost the same procrssor as the note 4 exynos. However yes it isnt a processor which is good for an flagship tablet but Samsung does that with all tablets, the New Tab S2 2016 edition also only has a SD652 processor, which also cant be clasified as high end..
Ok, seems like finally there's progress:
Android 7 for T-mobile Note 4
Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7. Upgrading Note4 to Nougat means more spending and give users reasons to stay longer on old devices, while they want you to buy a new one quicker to cover their expenses.
Upgrading Note4 would be a very noble move from Samsung, but as their previous behavior shows, noble moves are not in their habits.
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have. I'm not trying to say they are stupid or something, they just don't care or the OS version is not their priority.
Plus lots of old device owners are not direct Samsung customers, that's what this business success is about: if customer wants to be on the edge, (s)he should buy new. I don't know if there's a research about how many - 2-3 y.o. flagships have 2nd+ owners, but the refurbished phone market is quite big. So, part of not so must-do investment like upgrading old phones is not only going to nowhere for the phone makers, but also creates undesired competition for their new products on some markets (e.g. like in my country where operators' offers phone+contract aren't so "sweet" like in countries with bigger number of potential customers and people would think twice if they need to upgrade with brand-new or lightly used). Note4 users are just a thin slice.
And you can't blame Samsung for not taking care about old device owners - they released 6.0.1 update for N910F not so long ago, they run "buy-back" program in lots of places. But, you know, there should be something to get you interested in buying new phone.
OK, seems like we're going off topic here
I did get the same thought about my Note4 and Nougat as soon as I heard about termination of Note7, but... I'm skeptic here. It's hard time for Samsung to invest in something with doubtful possibility to return and make their new products less valuable comparing to old ones.
I've no idea what you all are thinking, but 1. There sure as Hell won't be an official Sammy Update to 7.0. Never ever.
2. 7.0 Custom roms are far away. Since no Samsung phone is on an official stable build (afaik) there's no base yet. So the only Option is AOSP. In my experience even the 6.0 Roms aren't stable enough for a daily driver. Since a Nougat port needs some base, normally the 6.0 Rom would be used as a base. It gets a bit technical from here on, but tldr is, it's not as easy as downloading the source, copying some folders around and bang, rom...
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
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3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
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your comment regarding the lack of the first official base gives some understanding regarding 7.0 status, thanks for that!
As for the last one, p.3, asking "when" and "how is it going" could be considered rude only by really childish and immature persons.
There are a lot of people here on XDA that flash roms in their spare time too (like people that develop them), and not everyone has too much of it. we would like to have at least some basic understanding about 7.0 progress, to plan migration to the new rom (which requires dedicating several consecutive days for roms flashing, data migration, and testing). Asking when, is about planning.
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true. No one here should think that they use their phones the way we do, here on XDA. 8 out of 10 users just update their devices, because they see the OTA notification appearing, but don´t even care about the differences between the old OS and the new one. If you ask them, what is KitKat and Lollipop, or root, most likely they won´t know the answers. As long as Facebook, WhatsApp, Viber, whatever works, everything´s fine. The only difference they do care about, is battery ilfe. By the way, battery life... I´m an android user since Gingerbread. I had several devices, before i bought the Note 1, and since then I´m using only Note phones, I had the Note 2, Note 3, and now for a long time, Note 4. I never ever understood why some people are so keen on having the newest OS, because according to my experience, the newest is rarely the better... I liked KitKat, especially the X-Note custom ROM´s. Lollipop was on the market for long time, i had to reflash my phone, so i thought i give it a try. After a few weeks of being on Lollipop, i ran back to KitKat, my good old X-Note. Lollipop was a huge stepback in battery life, and i haven´t experienced any really noticable advantages. About a month ago i deciced to upgrade my KitKat to Marshmallow, just out of curiousity. A huge disappointment, again. Battery life is also worse, the overhyped permission management system is a joke, and apart from the off-screen memo i haven´t found anything useful in MM. So, as before, i went back to my good old KK, i enjoy the stability, the extreme long battery life, and, honestly, i don´t even wait to Nougat.
tompika72 said:
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true... (shortened).
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It goes even further than not careing. My own girlfriend HATES OS Updates. i told her, that for her Mate 7 there's a new Android Version out. She refuses to update because every update on every device ever (not only android, windows too) meant major hassle for her. She uses the phone as is and everything that changes anything is evil. Don't try to argue with security or such. She is just feared, that her phone won't work the same anymore. And seeing how much i flash my phone to "get it working" i can't blame her
Battery life is a topic i'm struggeling with. My inner nerd wants to get the maximum runtime out of that thing. But recently, with Doze introduced, i have some major Notification Problems. Allo doesn't notify at all or 2 days later. Whatsapp randomly delays Notifications by hours... Maybe the ever itching battery saving thing has gone to far. I mean, on a typical workday i leave at 6am and come home at 5pm with 75% Battery left. I just stopped caring. The Note 4 makes it through a day on every OS for me. And a second one if i have too. :good:
Seems like no news at all regarding 7.0 ROMs...
an absolute silence...
Several devs making AOSP/CM Roms have stated in their threads, that it's in the works. Only now some devices running stock'ish roms are getting Android 7 (OPO..) We are rocking an oldish phone with a processor/chipset that no official Android 7 phone has. Samsung has no official 7 rom either. So it's just a lot of work to get something useable.
I'm sure our devs have something bootable. But getting from there to something usable/daily driver ready is a long and bumpy road. Give them some time. We'll get it sooner or later. For sure.