I just got my new phone last night. I went through all the available updates and am now on 5.0.1. I have rooted my phones in the past, but haven't ventured into flashing ROMs (at least on my phone). I see the process for rooting is a bit more involved than my last couple devices, as it involves unlocking the bootloader, flashing recovery, and then flashing SU. I am fairly clear on the instructions, but it looks like it involves a factory reset from what I have seen. Does this mean all the stuff I have installed on the phone since last night will be wiped? Will I go through the upgrades again (I can't remember the exact level it was on, but likely some version of Kit Kat)? Any help is appreciated; I was a little surprised of how involved the process was to root this phone.
Everything will be wiped you can do a htc backup and then you can restore it after root as it is right now even apps that you didn't get from playstore will restore except pictures music etc.
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So I've been rooted on my ATT GN3 for awhile now and I have a custom ROM(UrDroid stock 4.3) installed using Safestrap.
For the last several weeks, periodically when I'm on wifi, I get a prompt that there is an OTA update. I can't decline it and it reboots the phone into recovery mode. I just choose to reboot again and it says the update did not complete.
I'm worried about loosing my root or worse. What do I need to do?
You can freeze the system app called "at&t software update".
Yeah, I could do that. But I would like to keep my phone updated if possible. Maybe it's better to wait for the official release of KitKat?
I would still like to get familiar with the process of updating while rooted though.
The irony in this is killing me...
If you update, you will lose root, but can just as easily get it back. And that is if the update even Installs with you rooted. It will normally fail. And since it is a custom ROM you should not even be getting a notification.
What bothers me is that you say you want to keep the phone updated, but continue to cancel the update.
I suggest you use a custom KK ROM. It is the most up to date.
Be it KnoxRaid based off of the leak for our device, or one of the few ported ROMs we have available.
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graydiggy said:
The irony in this is killing me...
If you update, you will lose root, but can just as easily get it back. And that is if the update even Installs with you rooted. It will normally fail. And since it is a custom ROM you should not even be getting a notification.
What bothers me is that you say you want to keep the phone updated, but continue to cancel the update.
I suggest you use a custom KK ROM. It is the most up to date.
Be it KnoxRaid based off of the leak for our device, or one of the few ported ROMs we have available.
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I guess I should explain that I'm still very new to the Android platform, having been a long time iPhone user. I've managed to figured out how to get my GN3 rooted and even install a custom ROM, but there are many things I still am unclear about on this platform.
Jailbreaking the iOS was relatively simple and straightforward. New iOS version comes out, wait for jailbreak, backup phone in iTunes and other apps like PKGBackup. Run jailbreak utility and restore everything the way it was.
Maybe I'm not quite understanding the process, but it seems hard to find direct step-by-step instructions for what I want to do. Maybe it's because there are so many different devices and ROMs, etc.
I don't want to lose all the apps/settings for my phone if I don't have to. I just don't know the best course of action to take in order to ensure that I am able to keep my phone updated and then rooted without losing everything.
I would also recommend the Knoxraid ROM. It's a great ROM and Drakey is constantly updating it. As of version 5.5 released today it's based on the latest OTA update. There is a step by step guide in the Knoxraid post that explains how to do everything. Take a look. It is pretty easy really.
As for backing up, you can backup all your apps/app data pretty easily with Titanium Backup. If you haven't already give it a look. There are tons of guides and how-to's available for how to use it. I know how overwhelming switching from iOS to android can be at first, but once you get the hang of things you will be so glad you switched. Good luck!
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
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Well it's like anything. If you don't know why you need something you probably don't need it
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bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
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the phone never come unrooted .. you never had root installed properly
when it's flashed correctly from recovery it will not just go away
http://download.chainfire.eu/396/SuperSU
Flash that from recovery and you'll be rooted
I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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This is a rom issue not a root issue. Could have also been an issue with the kernel. To be honest if you dont really use the root functions then there maybe no need for you to have it. To be honest most people dont really need root. They just wanna seem cool with some things they can show off on their device instead of using it for anything important or handy. I would advice to judge for yourself. Take the extra options/security risk and weigh it against remaining stock which has less options/secure.
I agree with the previous post, if you don't know what it is, you probably don't need it. As far as SuperSu disappearing, it sounds like either you didn't install it correctly or something changed. The ideal way to install SuperSu is to install via the recovery. And even so, if you reinstall your OS, you will need to reinstall SuperSu. Software does not simply disappear, something had to be done to hasten it's departure. An easy fix to your issue would have been to download the SuperSu zip package from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu, and install it via your recovery. What I personally don't like about locking a bootloader is that now it says TAMPERED at the top of the screen.
Your issues seem to be with the restoring to stock process which HTC do make a bit convoluted, triggered by the root error not rooting itself.
Now to answer your question: My main reason for rooting is I want to take fine grained backups. Second is lots of clever people have come up with mods and improvements I like to install over the stock Sense ROM.
If you don't need anything that needs root, no need to root. Simple as that.
bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
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if you want RUU search @ htc1guru.com with firmware/software version
flash same firmware again + flash custom recovery + flash SuperSu it will resolve your problem
I wasn't going to root my phone but this "its on" app is killing half my battery now, so I guess its time. Can someone point in in the right direction for a tutorial that can root after the 4.4.4 update? also, does anyone know if there's a way to root without erasing the phone? I don't want to reinstall everything, I really just want to get rid of the its on app. Its unbelievable that sprint hasn't fixed this in over a month.
The method to root is the same as it is with previous Android versions on this device. Unlocking your bootloader factory resets the device, but you can connect your phone to your PC and backup whatever you need to beforehand. HTC backup also works great for backing up apps, ringtones, etc. I've used it in the past and it works quite well. As far as the ItsOn garbage, you'll need to flash a ROM that removes it from the device, as it's not simply an app that you can delete.
Hi, long time lurker here. I want to start by saying how great and informative this site is. Anyway, my nexus 6 came in from the mail like 5 hours ago, did all the updates from 5.0 to 6.0 and it's now running Marshmallow mra58n. Question is should I root it immediately and if so, are there any guides I can follow? Much love to you all, I'm not exactly pro at this kind of things but I can follow instructions since I have competently rooted my past phones which were an HTC M7, M8 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet.
Thank you.
Edit: Phone is also unlocked, I currently have no SIM card
start here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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I've been looking at the Nexus Root Toolkit since I am kind of confused on how to proceed with anything at all, is that ill advised since I've read that there are problems with the USB cable disconnecting during reboot?
Also, thank you for the reply.
I used the NRT without issue. Just follow the guide step by step.
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and, dont touch the usb cable while the phone is processing your commands!
j/k, never even heard of the USB cable "problem"
I just used the toolkit today to unlock and root my N6.
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I rooted last night initially using manual method described in the first link provided, however after some driver issues ultimately used the 2.1.0 rootkit to uninstall and reinstall all drivers. That too alone saved me tons of time and either method is simple if you can follow instructions.
Totally recommend rooting and then experimenting with custom roms, its like getting a new phone everyone you install a new rom.
Have fun!
Kristine,
In answer specifically to your question "Should I...?" my answer is "No". It really depends on what you think you'll get from it - why do you want to do it? What specific benefits do you want?
The reason that I say "no" is that I've been rooted on all my several phones for years, and I've decided that for me the annoyance of having to manually flash ROMs outweighs the benefits - particularly now that Google are releasing frequent security updates. The moment you root your device the OTA (over the air) updates no longer work.
For me the major reason for rooting was to have a firewall. The other things (wakelock detection, double tap to wake, auto-hibernation...) were great but not showstoppers. Now that there is a non-root firewall (Netguard) I'm happy to leave my phone unrooted. I haven't had an OTA to apply yet, so if I have any problems then I might change my mind, but my advice would be to think hard about why you want root before you buy yourself into a world of tinkering...
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At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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Dammit, are you kidding me? I just downloaded and setup everything, figured I'd do all everything else tomorrow... Oh, well I can do it again I suppose.
Kristine-N said:
Question is should I root it immediately....
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Because I don't want a white interface, rooting is necessary. Google forces to many things, like forced encryption, useless apps and a white interface (battery drain). When rooting was impossible I would not have bought a Nexus.
Short answer: No!
Long answer: Well, it's sill no, but you can or even should do a couple of things.
First if all, allow OEM Unlocking in development settings. There are gazillion how-tos to switch developer mode on, and tick that switch. Google has borked OTAs already, and if your phone doesn't boot, and the switch is off, then you're boned, you can send it for repair. But if you can unlock you bootloader, then you can flash a custom recovery and make your phone working again.
Second, if you do plan to root your phone in the near future, you should unlock the bootloader now, while it's still new, because it will erase everything (IMHO this would be sufficient as a security measure, the Enable OEM Unlocking is overkill).
As for the main question if you don't have any specific ideas what you want the root for, then don't root your phone. It's a clear and present security risk, and you're just one too many "Allow" taps from letting someone acquire your passwords, clone your IMEI, and download your personal stuff. My motto is, if you don't know what exactly root is, what it does, then you don't know how to prevent exploits that need it to run.
Also if you modify your phone in any way, and that includes rooting, you won't receive the monthly OTAs, and will have to flash it manually.
And finally, don't use toolkits on a Nexus. Spend another hour reading about the matter and you will find out typing adb and fastboot commands is a easy as clicking buttons on toolkits. There is nothing extra in them, they just download the images to flash, and "type" these commands for you.
Unlock bootloader and don't root it for now. After some time, if you feel like you're missing some features that you can obtain only with root, then go ahead. But for now I would strongly recommend to stay stock and see how it goes...
Alright, my problem here is that I want to update my phone and such, on (4.4.2)
A while back I attempted to root my phone only to fail with it trying every possible thing, after a while I decided that I wanted to update my phone to marshmallow, however during that time I would always get updates that download then when I attempt to install them it would reboot the phone and take me to fastboot without updating note my phone isn't rooted, but it is unlocked because I never bother to lock it because I didn't know that would affect the update.
There is other reasons I want to lock it too.
I DID make a backup of the stock recovery, however due to my PC forcing itself to update to windows 10 and corrupting my user account on windows or something I lost most of my stuff.
Anyways the help I am looking for is, there a way to return it to stock?
So far all the guides I found require me to have supersu, or whatever to put it back to stock.
TL;DR: can't update phone (not rooted but unlocked), guides so far didn't help.
RUU is your best bet to get back to stock. Check the thread linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173
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