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[Q] Laggy games?processor running at 1000mhz max?

i m on v10D, i just rooted and intalled setcpu, 1500 max 1400 min gov: performance, now just after i restart/turn on my device, the frequency is right..but then after a couple of minutes it drops to 1000 mhz..i have 2 questions:1.is there a way to fix this,2.does any other version( other than v10D )offer better gaming experience...and if so, which is the best?
Thanks for your time :good:

Well i have mine when I game set to 1500 low and high plus performance. It never drops and other then that. One issue I did encounter is that as long u have profiles set up and checked it will still use them regardless if u set it in the front page to a certain speed. So u need to uncheck all profiles and also uncheck the use profiles. Basically uncheck it all then even if u uncheck use profile it still will use the profile if u select one. Here a picture from what I mean. See how I unchecked everything. U need to do this to or it still will the profiles even if not checked the use profile box.
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dante501 said:
Well i have mine when I game set to 1500 low and high plus performance. It never drops and other then that. One issue I did encounter is that as long u have profiles set up and checked it will still use them regardless if u set it in the front page to a certain speed. So u need to uncheck all profiles and also uncheck the use profiles. Basically uncheck it all then even if u uncheck use profile it still will use the profile if u select one. Here a picture from what I mean. See how I unchecked everything. U need to do this to or it still will the profiles even if not checked the use profile box.
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Wow, that worked!!what do you know!!! Thanks man, one more thing..about the updates, which version should i go with??

matatouille96 said:
Wow, that worked!!what do you know!!! Thanks man, one more thing..about the updates, which version should i go with??
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No problem. And Well i use v10f seems just fine.
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Dammit, the frequency problem is back..no profiles this time...any ideas??

Do u have any other app installed that might interfere like quadgearbox or anything like that?
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dante501 said:
Do u have any other app installed that might interfere like quadgearbox or anything like that?
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not that i know of..i had lg gear box but i removed it...i also have ATP tweak but i dont think that s relevant
Edit: i just removed the atp tweak..and it still automatically returns to 1000mhz
btw, are you facing any lags, framedrops, etc on v10F?
and is there any way to force the 4 cores to work simultaneously?

I have the same problem. When i set frequencies to 1500 min and max in game it's still change to lower.

I don't really know. Mine always stays steady on 1500
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Can you make for me a screenshot from game with osd cpu core usage?

dante501 said:
I don't really know. Mine always stays steady on 1500
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Well, its probably has something to do with the firmware version, lets hope an update would fix it
But still, are you facing any lags on v10F?

What exactly do u mean?
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CPU not run full speed
Hy !
Merry Christmas !
My problem is same as you. I don't rooted my phone.
I have stock v10h firmware hungarian,
When I play games, all games very laggy.
I checked the CPU speeds, the max frequency is 1300Mhz and below.
What is this ? Tegra 3 stupidity ?
Best Regards
Gabor

Just write 3845#*880# and on the bottom you can see cpu usage, turn it on and play some game.

LorinczG77 said:
Hy !
Merry Christmas !
My problem is same as you. I don't rooted my phone.
I have stock v10h firmware hungarian,
When I play games, all games very laggy.
I checked the CPU speeds, the max frequency is 1300Mhz and below.
What is this ? Tegra 3 stupidity ?
Best Regards
Gabor
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that 's 3 people with the same problem...and no one is helping -.-, ^^^and he 's on v10H so its not fixed by update .-.
anyone??

It didn't change anything for me to put the CPU @ 1,5GHz constantly. I did a test with the game Horn and its lagging exactly as with the default CPU governor enabled.
If you think about it for a moment, it makes sense, as the GPU is doing the majority of work.

Tegra 3 CPU Clocks
Based on what I understand about Tegra 3 from this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391, the CPU has 3 different "modes". 1.5Ghz single core, 1.4Ghz dual and triple core, and 1.2Ghz quad core (At a certain temperature, remains on 1.4Ghz or 1.3Ghz until that temperature is reached... quickly). The reason why the frequencies go down is because when the phone is utilising more cores, the frequency drops too. The move from 1.5Ghz to 1.4Ghz causes lag in games at times, which is why the maximum should be set to 1.4Ghz to prevent this from occuring. Also they said that the performance governor causes 2 of the 4 cores to no longer be in use, which is NOT good for Tegra games such as ShadowGun as all 4 cores cannot be used, so they advised people only to use it for Non-Tegra games as they do not use all the cores. Hoped I helped in any way, even though I'm a new guy. I'm not sure if this applies for ALL Tegra 3 devices or just the HTC One X, but it still looks like useful information.

Ddoubled123 said:
Based on what I understand about Tegra 3 from this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391, the CPU has 3 different "modes". 1.5Ghz single core, 1.4Ghz dual and triple core, and 1.2Ghz quad core (At a certain temperature, remains on 1.4Ghz or 1.3Ghz until that temperature is reached... quickly). The reason why the frequencies go down is because when the phone is utilising more cores, the frequency drops too. The move from 1.5Ghz to 1.4Ghz causes lag in games at times, which is why the maximum should be set to 1.4Ghz to prevent this from occuring. Also they said that the performance governor causes 2 of the 4 cores to no longer be in use, which is NOT good for Tegra games such as ShadowGun as all 4 cores cannot be used, so they advised people only to use it for Non-Tegra games as they do not use all the cores. Hoped I helped in any way, even though I'm a new guy. I'm not sure if this applies for ALL Tegra 3 devices or just the HTC One X, but it still looks like useful information.
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Thanks for your reply..but for me, the frequency doesnt drop to any of the values above, it automatically drops to1000 and mostly its on 1 core
Which brings me to another problem...i need a way to force the activation of the 4 cores simultaneously...in most games the cpu is stuck at 100% single or dual core

matatouille96 said:
Thanks for your reply..but for me, the frequency doesnt drop to any of the values above, it automatically drops to1000 and mostly its on 1 core
Which brings me to another problem...i need a way to force the activation of the 4 cores simultaneously...in most games the cpu is stuck at 100% single or dual core
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Most games are not optimised to use 4 cores, so I guess using only 1 or 2 cores should be normal. What governor are you using for games, because this might have an effect on the performance.

Ddoubled123 said:
Most games are not optimised to use 4 cores, so I guess using only 1 or 2 cores should be normal. What governor are you using for games, because this might have an effect on the performance.
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I tried all governors..performance isnt the best, idk why..userspace seems to work fine, but still when i set min and max freq above 1000mhz, it automatically drops to 1000mhz ._. and that isnt quite good for gaming, and since i bought this device over s3 for gaming, i feel f*cked
so would an update to v10F or a hard reset fix anything??
EDIT: and there 's 4 other people with the same problem and one of them has v10F so hardware problem??if so, im hanging myself

[Q] cpu performance

I want to know that how can I find that my cpu & gpu processors are working well ?
you know in some games I have few problems , few delays and I'm confused.
for example for "Subway Surf" I think there must be no delay or lag !
And the other question , what's your suggestion for an excellent Task Manager ?
I have tried some and now I have GO on my phone but I'm so willing to know the better one !

I sometimes got lagg on subway surf
And it only happens on stock rom tho
Its gone for me now on cm10.1
Try benchmarking apps if u really want check
Quadrant standart
Antutu
Are 2 good ones
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jasin91 said:
I want to know that how can I find that my cpu & gpu processors are working well ?
you know in some games I have few problems , few delays and I'm confused.
for example for "Subway Surf" I think there must be no delay or lag !
And the other question , what's your suggestion for an excellent Task Manager ?
I have tried some and now I have GO on my phone but I'm so willing to know the better one !
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Everything is probably ok. Our phone isn`t very good for games (stock) and JB became for slow for some.
Look for Gaming threads but, I can tell you this:
Root
Install Tegra Overclock (not tegrak) and set GPU Clock to 380 (more stable for me) or 416 for 3D and 2D. In Core Count, tick Force selected number of CPUs Online ONLY WHEN YOU WANT TO PLAY.
Maybe play with the thermal throttle.
Look for other kernels that support higher GPU clock. (don`t really recommend).
This is me, don`t know other users opinion:
Install Autokiller Memory Optmizer and set it to Extreme. This will consume more battery (my testing) but eliminates system UI lag.
This should do it.
Oh, of course, your Antutu Benchmark should result around 13k, but dont worry if you get 12k, it varies quite a bit.

I used LG boost app from development thread every time I wanna play
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Nexus 5 CPU thermal throttling

Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.

jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.

kaywalker23 said:
Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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But benchmarks man....Seriously though the phone is screaming fast so I say let it save some battery by throttling down.

Every phone, including the Iphone throttles. Unless there is evidence that N5 throttles a lot more than other S800 phone in non-benchmark tasks this is nothing to worry about imo.

Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Ajfink said:
Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Samsung ones especially....
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt

I have now played many games on my Nexus 5 and I haven't noticed any impact on the performance when playing for long periods of time. Whereas Nexus 4 would slow down dramatically once the throttling comes.

dannstarr said:
I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
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Funny, my gnex is just as smooth as the new n5. Gnex is running 4.3.1, but I also loaded a couple kk roms and also just as smooth as the n5. Doesn't take much to run an android os, but other things go a helluva lot faster on the n5 with the 4 cores and faster clock speeds.

kaywalker23 said:
Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit

Yakandu said:
what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
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SetCpu works like a charm.
I've only made 3 conditions for it.
when locked: 300/300
chrome: 300/1200
otherwise: 300/800
What's amazingly surprising is the phone is still very snappy with these frequencies. Sometimes I disable the profiles just to play around but when I'm looking for battery savings I enable them.

With stability test only 30 seconds for the CPU to drop to 1119 Mhz

jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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I only care about throttling if it affects overall performance. So far users report smooth browsing and gaming in the most demanding situations, so it's cool. Nexus devices never fared well at benchmarks anyway.

Another dissapointing... I suppose this is what they were talking about when said "power saving".
PD: Cooltool + setcpu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRcTxaWd24
check that if you want to see the effect of throttling in gaming

kaywalker23 said:
Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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Do you pull half the fuel injector harnesses out in your car to?

The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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noobdeagle said:
The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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Yes that's true ,
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That's the problem with having more cores, developers are still making things for older (and more prevalent) hardware. Same thing happened in the early days of multi-core CPUs in computers as well. To begin with you got far worse performance on a dual core 1.5Ghz machine than on a single core with 2Ghz because the OS and applications didn't use the second core. Fortunately phone evolution is way faster and I expect games and apps to take advantage of all the cores much sooner than it happened on PC.

As on the nexus 4, I have no doubt that we will be able to turn off thermal throttling with custom kernels
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Tegra Overclock OUYA Edition is finally here :)

What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
EDIT: Version 1.1 Change log
*Nothing new just made the interactive governor as a default rather than performance governor due to heating concern.
*Checked the code so that 2D GPU is set to 520 MHz too, in case it still reports half let me know..
EDIT: Version 1.2 Change Log
***Added requested LBCMT (LastBootCpuMaximumTemperature!) This shows the maximum temperature your device went during last boot.
***Added apply on boot (Works only when the USB device with at least a single file is detected to ensure you don't intentionally mess up anywhere )
The LBCMT will works as soon as you boot once after you open the app for the first time. Also note that YOU SHOULD NOT KILL THE APP manually by task killers or the reporting will be fake. BEWARE....
EDIT: Version 1.3 Change LOG
***Full screen stretched resolution support for CM11 Rom users. Use the special newly added resolution (will only work for CM users currently as no other 4.3 or 4.4 Roms available)
Fixes for temp not showing on custom kernel like EPRJ Kernel.
Thank you for being patient.

Kingshoo said:
What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
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now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?

This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.

Awesome, finally the OUYA version, im about to jump on this right now and give it a spin!!!:good:

darkknight1812 said:
This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.
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i asked before install...now i saw it very nice and user friendly

.. one click optimization .. nice job .. cheers

sasuke1981 said:
now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?
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Just Press the OK button and wait a few seconds as the settings getting applied. After that Run your Emulator Games and you should notice a difference . Note that Resolution options also cuts the screen area so use them only if a game is unplayable!

is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.

Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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it's understandable for the lil guy to get hot quickly when you are overclocking the GPU+CPU, can't expected to run cool unless you put a better cooling fan into you console, i don't mid my ouya running a lil hot, well mines don't get hot enough cause my ouya got a acrylic custom shell with enough vents and airflow that keeps my console way cooler then the ouya stock/factory shell...

its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.

Excellent!
I'll give this a bash tonight and see what improvements there are!

Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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Actually Temperatures are no problem for this chip as it can bear temperatures of 70 C with great ease as the manufacturer mentioned. Don't worry about that also let me know if they are above this temperature so that we can do something about that. If you ask me I am comfortable with 85C as that is what the throttle temperatures (Default mind you!). Just Relax and crush the games already

Careless_ said:
its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.
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The custom CPU clock feature conflict the one click feature and not to mention lower clocks are not required as there is no trouble with the highest speed since the cooling is active and with sink. Just don't worry about the temps too much as everything is normal here and the purpose of console is to bear high temperatures with high load even with little heat management..

I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). @Kingshoo, can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.

Ipse_Tase said:
I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). Can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.
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Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics

Kingshoo said:
Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics
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Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.

After reading several reviews about Noctua 40x10mm A-Series Blades with AAO Frame, SSO2 Bearing Premium Retail Cooling Fan NF-A4x10, I decided to buy it. I replaced the noisy fan of my OUYA, and the difference in sound is amazing. I had to check if the fan was actually running because barely hear it. Also, the temperature of my equipment dropped ~ 10°C, so overheating issues could be easily fixed, if you decided to overclock. I recommend this product without a doubt. Check on eBay or Amazon.
If you want to replace the fan, here's a guide how to do it. youtube . com /watch?v=rra0FwlHvBA

Well honestly I wasn't able to play games on OUYA but since you people are playing games what the temps of CPU are anyways after say an hour? I am asking this because I don't see a need for custom coolers as 50C or 70C it really don't make any difference to your hardware. Yes the fan noise may be concerning to many but I have cotton plugs in my ears to keep it silent (these really costs cents and not $$!). OK so newer version will have interactive on one click..

My stock fan is totally silent anyway
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Ipse_Tase said:
Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.
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i will also try this, i run my OUYA on performance all the time and it's pretty loud...

Adreno 3xx GPU Driver for Android 4.4.4 KitKat - flashable package

Greetings,
This driver is obtained from Qualcomm's 07 Aug 14 drivers for "Qualcomm Adreno 3xx GPU on Nexus 4, 5 & 7 devices running Google Android 4.4.4 KitKat".
All credits go to the folks at Qualcomm for making the developer version of these lib files available for us to play with.
This is for testing purposes only. Please don't flash without backing up first and then start screaming if something happens to your phone!
The package only contains files for Adreno 300 and 330. I cooked the packaged to be flashable on our SM-G900T or any SM-G900 with the Adreno 330 chipset.
I'm on a "XtreStoLite_G900T_ROM_v1.3_UVU1BNG3" ROM, which is a super clean/slim version of the stock rom. This is also Android 4.4.2, my AnTuTu benchmark results dropped from 37400 to 35800 after flashing this package.
I'm requesting someone with a KitKat 4.4.4 ROM to test this and report back their before and after benchmarks.
I appreciate your feedback,

Hmm, interesting.. I'm only on 4.4.2 or I would help out..

Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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Commodore 64 said:
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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And this means....... I'm sorry but I don't understand the purpose... Is this supposed to make Tw snappier?
Thanks in advance!

It is updating the video (graphics) drivers. It probably improves the touchWiz performance as well (don't have evidence to support this), but what i noticed was a huge performace increase in the 3D graphics score. This will make games run alot smooter and more efficiently.
To clarify, this file resembles how your Mac/PC has a video card with say NViDIA or ATi video cards and they have their own driver releases. Our phones graphic chipset is designed by Qualcomm and it gets its own drivers as well. Hope I answered your question, and didn't make it worse!
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.

Tried flashing the update and ran into a couple random fcs for a few apps. Nothing device-breaking or anything, but I also didn't notice any real difference in performance or framerate in games. But I do appreciate you posting this, I'm always up for trying a little experimentation on my device to find something new. Thanks man.

AlkaliV2 said:
In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!

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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.

AlkaliV2 said:
Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
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Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...

Slicktune said:
Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
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I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.

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I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
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Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
And once I flash this, can I go back or will it erase the update once I flash a different rom?
Thanks in advance!!

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Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
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I'll keep you posted. I wasn't impressed overall with it's performance in Touchwiz on battery life with the CPU underclocked, so I am branching out to a more AOSP-like build. I'll keep you posted to what I find out.

Commodore 64 said:
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..

You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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This maybe off topic, but does this works on other devices like Z2 or HTC M8 using the same GPU?

43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..

92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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Lower score, what about gaming?

Slicktune said:
This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
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You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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HD-man said:
Lower score, what about gaming?
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You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.

92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
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I figured since the OP stated he got less points in Antutu, I would go ahead and use the same app and test to compare...
F*ck me right?
Regardless, I don't notice anything different either, my stats are in the sig.