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Are there any noticeable improvements (performance-wise) in the custom KitKat ROMs and the stock 4.1.2? I mean, are there any changes that you can feel and see, or is it just a new android version with fancy new features?
Also I'd wait until a stable version of OmniROM or CM gets built until I try to flash my device.
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Are there any noticeable improvements (performance-wise) in the custom KitKat ROMs and the stock 4.1.2? I mean, are there any changes that you can feel and see, or is it just a new android version with fancy new features?
Also I'd wait until a stable version of OmniROM or CM gets built until I try to flash my device.
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I have flashed CM nightlies, PA nightlies, 4.3 PAC and Omni ROM.. Each Rom has its own unique features and performance difference!..
But personally i would say, those has its own + and - things..
The last ROM i flashed 4.4.2 Dirt Unicorns Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633846 ) seemed Great to me.. Overall Nice features cheery picked from all ROMS but again its individual's preference in the end of the day and Every ROM is unique in its own way!
NOTE:- S-Note, S planner and other samsung apps will work only if you are flashing a Touchwiz based Rom.. Those apps wont work in CM, PA and AOKP Roms cuz they need TW framework to work with!
If you are thinking of flashing of TW based Roms, i would recommend 2 Roms to take a look at..
X-Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2320871 ) This is the Rom, i am currently using.. It will give your phone a tablet UI, thus taking advantage of your Note's large real estate screen! .. Multi window, floating window and buttery smooth and lots of features!
You can also check out the Note 8 Apps ported to our galaxy note N7000, if you are interested.. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2217662 )
Arya Mod ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52357155 ) This is also a great Rom and cool icons and themes!
I can't say I've been using any of the TouchWiz features, to be honest.
Just a few things I don't like on the stock ROM: The gallery takes a long time to open, opening the contacts takes a bit, and the animations sometimes glitch out (they just get skipped). And I'm locked to my current provider, but as my guarantee is at an end, I'm looking for a custom ROM to get out of the damn simlock, and maybe fix some other things as well.
So if you could just point out a few major differences (both performance wise, and feature wise) between CM, Omni and Dirt Unicorns, that'd be awesome. Of course I'd still wait for a stable version to come out.
I'm not really sure if I want a TW based ROM, not that I was using any of it's features. They always were a tad bit laggy on my phone. Mainly I'm looking for a ROM that'll run the smoothest, and that's the main thing, all eye-candy and fancy stuff is just icing on the cake. But I'll check out the ROMs you linked (the links seem to be wrong, tho). Thanks a lot!
I'll post another question in the same thread, so I don't have to open another one and clutter the board.
Are the OmniROM and CM nightlies stable? Also, is the only way to update CM to download and flash a new version of the OS, since there's that opendelta thing on Omni, where you can just download the update, just like real OTA?
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I'll post another question in the same thread, so I don't have to open another one and clutter the board.
Are the OmniROM and CM nightlies stable? Also, is the only way to update CM to download and flash a new version of the OS, since there's that opendelta thing on Omni, where you can just download the update, just like real OTA?
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They aren't stable but can be used as daily driver depending upon your usage. For Omnirom there is open delta, you can check for updates in settings>About Phone and it would only download the update not the whole rom.
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Are there any noticeable improvements (performance-wise) in the custom KitKat ROMs and the stock 4.1.2? I mean, are there any changes that you can feel and see, or is it just a new android version with fancy new features?
Also I'd wait until a stable version of OmniROM or CM gets built until I try to flash my device.
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I doubt 4.4 will ever be 100% stable, but god bless the cooks that keep coming up with updates, since for obvious reasons,
Samsung won't port past 4.1.2 officially.
Personally, for my usage, I've skipped everything past 4.1.2, as I can go weeks between reboots, lock ups, and with a custom
launcher (go launcher), my device is smooth and rock stable. It has a stock (DBT german international device) rom, rooted,
custom kernal just in case I forgot and didn't want to erase and endure the brick bug. Uninstalled the DBT bloat.
2+ years and still going strong.
p51d007 said:
I doubt 4.4 will ever be 100% stable, but god bless the cooks that keep coming up with updates, since for obvious reasons,
Samsung won't port past 4.1.2 officially.
Personally, for my usage, I've skipped everything past 4.1.2, as I can go weeks between reboots, lock ups, and with a custom
launcher (go launcher), my device is smooth and rock stable. It has a stock (DBT german international device) rom, rooted,
custom kernal just in case I forgot and didn't want to erase and endure the brick bug. Uninstalled the DBT bloat.
2+ years and still going strong.
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is it possible to create note2 android 4.3 rom for note1
CustomRomAddicts said:
I have flashed CM nightlies, PA nightlies, 4.3 PAC and Omni ROM.. Each Rom has its own unique features and performance difference!..
But personally i would say, those has its own + and - things..
The last ROM i flashed 4.4.2 Dirt Unicorns Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633846 ) seemed Great to me.. Overall Nice features cheery picked from all ROMS but again its individual's preference in the end of the day and Every ROM is unique in its own way!
NOTE:- S-Note, S planner and other samsung apps will work only if you are flashing a Touchwiz based Rom.. Those apps wont work in CM, PA and AOKP Roms cuz they need TW framework to work with!
If you are thinking of flashing of TW based Roms, i would recommend 2 Roms to take a look at..
X-Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...0871&nocache=1 ) This is the Rom, i am currently using.. It will give your phone a tablet UI, thus taking advantage of your Note's large real estate screen! .. Multi window, floating window and buttery smooth and lots of features!
You can also check out the Note 8 Apps ported to our galaxy note N7000, if you are interested.. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2217662 )
Arya Mod ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2575767 ) This is also a great Rom and cool icons and themes!
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All your links are wrong.
daedric said:
All your links are wrong.
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i dont know what you are taking about
CustomRomAddicts said:
i dont know what you are taking about
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LOL
CustomRomAddicts said:
i dont know what you are taking about
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The only working link you posted is the first one. The other three don't work. Try it for yourself
He already fixed it... but my quote remains to explain what happened
The title says it all. Is anybody interested in a Stock GPE Build for the Sprint S4? The purpose of this build would be a Stock GPE ROM with changes only needed to make it function correctly.
Basically, Keeping it as close as possible to stock GPE for the device with the exception of root/supersu and busybox.
The reason for this would be so dirty flashes work better and be somewhat supported and tested.
Danvdh's GPE build is awesome with many features however there is people like me that need a somewhat stable phone and don't feel like re-building and wiping the phone every time for a new flash.
Let me know what you think.
I think it would definitely be a good idea. Everyone has different needs and as you can see from reading the threads, it seems each phone acts differently on each of these Roms. Thank you for taking time to work on it if you do. If you need someone to test to see if your work causes a phone to glow in the dark, let me know!
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Mods: If this is not the correct place for this please move it.
The title says it all. Is anybody interested in a Stock GPE Build for the Sprint S4? The purpose of this build would be a Stock GPE image with changes only needed to make it function correctly.
Basically, Keeping it as close as possible to stock GPE for the device with the exception of root/supersu and busybox.
The reason for this would be so dirty flashes work better and be somewhat supported and tested.
Danvdh's GPE build is awesome with many features however there is people like me that need a somewhat stable phone and don't feel like re-building and wiping the phone every time for a new flash.
Let me know what you think.
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Ahhhh was wondering why dirty flash wasn't working. I'm gonna go with Yes! but it's honestly not much of a hassle either way.
As long as I can get voice-mail.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Go for it just as long data,voice, sms and mms work and it does say sprint not digital roam or no service or insert sim
As long as everything works and there aren't any crapola CM add-ons, I'm in for a try.
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As long as everything works and there aren't any crapola CM add-ons, I'm in for a try.
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Thanks you made me laugh with that comment.
It exists...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353&highlight=modem
No, it doesn't. That rom has been modded to hell and back and has nore issues with each release (which usually requires a complete wipe to even function). The OP of this thread is asking if we are interested in a more closely stock, more stable GPE rom without the mods and CM junk.
Would be nice if there was a actual source of the GPE I have a pure stock aosp build for jflte but its kk no mods no CM crap
Hey guys sadly this idea will have to be placed on hold for now. Somewhat busy with life. Sorry
I have one and love it. Do not know if voicemail works though...
As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
Stock kernel is pretty much the worst of them. Or should i say, least improved. If you're not interested in trying custom kernels just yet, use the one that comes with the custom ROMs you try
As for recommendations, what's everyone likes is different. Look in the development forums, read the features and try them.
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As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
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What @rootSU said and;
As long as you have a custom recovery and do a nandroid backup of your stable stock build, just try as many roms as you feel like. You don't like it, just restore your backup and bam, 5 minutes your back to exactly where you were. You can even use multirom and boot into different roms. Grab one of the roms from the N6 dev forum and give it a spin, you will never go back! And for what its worth, Benzo is dang good.
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As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
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rootSU and jackpollard have already covered the basics. However, I will make a recommendation because I know that's what you want - if you want to try a ROM that comes with a very nice kernel so you will not need to flash a custom kernel, I recommend trying Dirty Unicorns. It is my personal favorite ROM to run with the inline kernel (XDA speak for the kernel that comes with the ROM). As these guys said, when you flash a ROM, it generally comes with a kernel. When you hear people on a particular ROM talk about "stock kernel", they really mean the inline kernel that comes with the ROM, not the stock MTV whatever Google kernel. To get technical, I'm not using "inline kernel" correctly either - that actually means a kernel that's built with a ROM, but I'm not even gonna get into all that. I would recommend Dirty Unicorns if you wish to find a ROM that comes with a stock kernel installed that is absolutely awesome. If you prefer a lighter ROM with a more stock-like kernel, I recommend Chroma. Both are excellent ROMs with great kernels that come with them, and both provide kernels that are easy for a new user to learn to configure. It just depends on what you are looking for - you may end up hating both of those ROMs. Also, any ROM that uses leanKernel as its kernel is a good place to start - find one that has a feature list you like, leanKernel is the best starter kernel there is in my opinion. The best thing about it is it is built well enough to still suit the needs of way more advanced users while not intimidating even the newest of noobs in the slighest. So, play around and find what suits you, bu those are a few recommendations to get you started based on the kernels that come with the ROMs and what you are asking for. I hope it helps you out.
Took the plunge and installed the latest Chroma ROM build, safe to say I'm happier with it than stock!
wright_ac said:
As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
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Heres a fun note. Most ROMs have yet to make major kernel changes, this means that, as of now, CM, PA, Omni, and most if not all AOSP ROMs boot on the stock kernel.
hey guys just bought this m7 device now i need your help to choce the right rom for me. im looking for performences over futers, stock on the lates android ( 6 i think )
What model are you running, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile?
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What model are you running, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile?
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european
Burllz said:
european
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Ok, so the international model. So if you want stock Android 6.x, my personal recommendations are Android Ice Cold Project (AICP), it's very feature rich while being as close to stock as possible and it has nightly updates. It also has really great performance and battery life, I haven't had any lag and get at least a day out of my battery. There's also Cyanogenmod 13 although it hasn't been updated for a month or so to my knowledge. And lastly another good one is crDroid. I personally recommend AICP because of the almost daily updates, and features, I have it installed on both my M7 and Nexus 4. I haven't had any issues and if there is an issue it's normally fixed the following update.
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Ok, so the international model. So if you want stock Android 6.x, my personal recommendations are Android Ice Cold Project (AICP), it's very feature rich while being as close to stock as possible and it has nightly updates. It also has really great performance and battery life, I haven't had any lag and get at least a day out of my battery. There's also Cyanogenmod 13 although it hasn't been updated for a month or so to my knowledge. And lastly another good one is crDroid. I personally recommend AICP because of the almost daily updates, and features, I have it installed on both my M7 and Nexus 4. I haven't had any issues and if there is an issue it's normally fixed the following update.
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ok thanks. what about android 5 ? are these google play editions any better then other custum roms?
Burllz said:
ok thanks. what about android 5 ? are these google play editions any better then other custum roms?
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Android Lollipop with the Google Play Editions are pretty much what you'd get on the stock Nexus experience. A lot of Google apps, and pure stock Lollipop without any modifications. Some do have some modifications to them, and some don't.
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Android Lollipop with the Google Play Editions are pretty much what you'd get on the stock Nexus experience. A lot of Google apps, and pure stock Lollipop without any modifications. Some do have some modifications to them, and some don't.
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seems like marshmewllow is too bugy so ill try the lollipop roms, any sugestions?
Burllz said:
seems like marshmewllow is too bugy so ill try the lollipop roms, any sugestions?
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Cyanogenmod 12.1 is really the only Lollipop ROM that I have used other than the Sense 7 roms, they have almost nightly updates for their Lollipop builds. Google Play Edition+ is another great one for 5.x, you can pick between stock Play Edition and the developer's custom build packed with features.
fireball0093 said:
Cyanogenmod 12.1 is really the only Lollipop ROM that I have used other than the Sense 7 roms, they have almost nightly updates for their Lollipop builds. Google Play Edition+ is another great one for 5.x, you can pick between stock Play Edition and the developer's custom build packed with features.
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okay, i found a rom that suits my needs. now i want to dual boot some kitkat rom and karbon as main rom with multy rom. the problem is that multry rom gives me this error "kernel doesnt have kexec-hardboot patch". seems like i need diferent kenal but i cant find any costum kernel for 5.1.1 ? or can i patch the kernal ?
Burllz said:
okay, i found a rom that suits my needs. now i want to dual boot some kitkat rom and karbon as main rom with multy rom. the problem is that multry rom gives me this error "kernel doesnt have kexec-hardboot patch". seems like i need diferent kenal but i cant find any costum kernel for 5.1.1 ? or can i patch the kernal ?
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If your primary rom is Sense-based then simply download this kernel, ElementalX, and flash it to your main rom. It has some pretty good features too that you can pick from during the installation. There also is a GPE build for Play Edition roms as well. Reboot into the rom just to make sure everything flashed smoothly, and then reboot and you can then boot into your different roms in multi boot. Just make sure that if you change your main rom in Multiboot that it has to have this kernel, I haven't found any other one that supports it. There also aren't any Marshmallow kernels just yet either, sadly.
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If your primary rom is Sense-based then simply download this kernel, ElementalX, and flash it to your main rom. It has some pretty good features too that you can pick from during the installation. There also is a GPE build for Play Edition roms as well. Reboot into the rom just to make sure everything flashed smoothly, and then reboot and you can then boot into your different roms in multi boot. Just make sure that if you change your main rom in Multiboot that it has to have this kernel, I haven't found any other one that supports it. There also aren't any Marshmallow kernels just yet either, sadly.
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its cm based, i dont think this kernel will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-t3066364
Burllz said:
its cm based, i dont think this kernel will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-t3066364
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Hmm. I'm currently busy until around 10-11pm EST, whenever I get done and back home I will take a look around to see if there might be anything. If it's Marshmallow based though there isn't any custom kernels yet. Wouldn't hurt to make like a GPE or Sense rom your primary one and simply leave it there, I do that. I use MIUI 7 as my daily driver but I have InsertCoin Sense 7 installed for my main rom so I can have 2-3 other roms installed. Just some advice if that helps
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Hmm. I'm currently busy until around 10-11pm EST, whenever I get done and back home I will take a look around to see if there might be anything. If it's Marshmallow based though there isn't any custom kernels yet. Wouldn't hurt to make like a GPE or Sense rom your primary one and simply leave it there, I do that. I use MIUI 7 as my daily driver but I have InsertCoin Sense 7 installed for my main rom so I can have 2-3 other roms installed. Just some advice if that helps
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okay, im on carbon rom , cm based, 5.1.1 . thanks mate!
Burllz said:
okay, im on carbon rom , cm based, 5.1.1 . thanks mate!
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I think, what would work best for you since you prefer stock-based roms, is download the Google Play Edition+ I linked earlier in the thread, install it as a secondary rom and also flash the ElementalX kernel under Flash Zip. Afterwards go under Advanced, Multirom, Swap Rom, and leave it as Swap primary and pick the GPE+ and let it run it's course. Might take 5-10 minutes so I'd leave it plugged in and charging if you are below 50-60% battery. Then just boot into GPE+, do a quick setup and leave it as a basic installation. That way you can keep your Carbon Rom installation with all of the data and apps, and just pick that every time you boot your phone. Plus it's easier than messing around with different kernels on Carbon trying to find one to make it work and you have a fallback stock rom in case an update or something messes up Carbon. That's exactly what I did with MIUI and InsertCoin.
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I think, what would work best for you since you prefer stock-based roms, is download the Google Play Edition+ I linked earlier in the thread, install it as a secondary rom and also flash the ElementalX kernel under Flash Zip. Afterwards go under Advanced, Multirom, Swap Rom, and leave it as Swap primary and pick the GPE+ and let it run it's course. Might take 5-10 minutes so I'd leave it plugged in and charging if you are below 50-60% battery. Then just boot into GPE+, do a quick setup and leave it as a basic installation. That way you can keep your Carbon Rom installation with all of the data and apps, and just pick that every time you boot your phone. Plus it's easier than messing around with different kernels on Carbon trying to find one to make it work and you have a fallback stock rom in case an update or something messes up Carbon. That's exactly what I did with MIUI and InsertCoin.
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okay thats what im going to do. i have one last question - is it normal for the cpu to run at 35-40C at all times when i use the phone? also the back cover is always warm sometimes gets hot without any havy tasks?
Burllz said:
okay thats what im going to do. i have one last question - is it normal for the cpu to run at 35-40C at all times when i use the phone? also the back cover is always warm sometimes gets hot without any havy tasks?
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Yeah, that happens sometimes with mine. Not all the time though, mainly when I'm streaming music in Spotify or Pandora, or if I've been on it for 10-15 minutes on Twitter, email, etc. Sometimes when installing a rom and first booting it, it gets upwards of 50C but cools down after I let it sit for a little while. Also, just throwing it out there because I love the app, if you have $7 you're willing to spend MyBackup Pro is fantastic for backing up everything if you change the rom you use the most. Like data, apps with the app data (not every app backs up the data though) and just like everything else. There's also a free one if you don't care about app data which I'd actually recommend trying that out first. Spares a hell of a lot of time for downloading apps every time. I promise I am no way affiliated with them, like I really feel bad "advertising" them even though I'm not. It's just my favorite backup app xD. Titanium backup is another good one but I haven't used it's backup stuff. Mods you can feel free to edit this if you don't see it fit.
The reason I ask is because image-based ROMs seem to be trouble-free, even if you flash Cataclysm mod over it to get some customization w/o using Xposed.
I would imagine that image-based ROMs would be better for the device, since they are build specifically for the device. As opposed to AOSP ROMs which are built from source, then customized to work with the device.
The reason I ask is because I keep bouncing between TuPac's stripped-down image-based ROM and PureNexus.
Any thoughts around this?
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The reason I ask is because image-based ROMs seem to be trouble-free, even if you flash Cataclysm mod over it to get some customization w/o using Xposed.
I would imagine that image-based ROMs would be better for the device, since they are build specifically for the device. As opposed to AOSP ROMs which are built from source, then customized to work with the device.
The reason I ask is because I keep bouncing between TuPac's stripped-down image-based ROM and PureNexus.
Any thoughts around this?
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theres no such thing as "customized to work with the device" for a nexus. aosp is made to work on nexus devices, period. and no, its the same exact thing technically. its like zips, they are all different. some forms compress your stuff down a little, some much more. yet at the end, they are exactly the same.
when you are flashing an aosp based rom, its made exactly for your device, period. this isnt a samsung device, which needs a modded aosp rom to run, its a nexus, what aosp roms are made for. oh, and those stock based image roms. i wouldnt consider them real roms. id consider them basic stock roms with stuff just thrown in. aosp roms they build from scratch, with the options/features built in.
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theres no such thing as "customized to work with the device" for a nexus. aosp is made to work on nexus devices, period. and no, its the same exact thing technically. its like zips, they are all different. some forms compress your stuff down a little, some much more. yet at the end, they are exactly the same.
when you are flashing an aosp based rom, its made exactly for your device, period. this isnt a samsung device, which needs a modded aosp rom to run, its a nexus, what aosp roms are made for. oh, and those stock based image roms. i wouldnt consider them real roms. id consider them basic stock roms with stuff just thrown in. aosp roms they build from scratch, with the options/features built in.
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Thanks for your response. I understand all that.
It seems like more can go wrong with AOSP-based ROMs since they are built and not provided from the factory image. Take Android Pay for example. It simply works on image-based ROMs but requires fixes or certain work-arounds to work on AOSP-based ROMs (flash a certain Gapps, make sure root is systemless, etc).
In my experience, and maybe it's just my device, but it seems like image-based ROMs run more fluid, but AOSP-based ROMs are faster, if that makes any sense. It almost seems like the image-based ROMs are better optimized for the device or something but they seem to slow down over time, the more the device is used.
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Thanks for your response. I understand all that.
It seems like more can go wrong with AOSP-based ROMs since they are built and not provided from the factory image. Take Android Pay for example. It simply works on image-based ROMs but requires fixes or certain work-arounds to work on AOSP-based ROMs (flash a certain Gapps, make sure root is systemless, etc).
In my experience, and maybe it's just my device, but it seems like image-based ROMs run more fluid, but AOSP-based ROMs are faster, if that makes any sense. It almost seems like the image-based ROMs are better optimized for the device or something but they seem to slow down over time, the more the device is used.
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well, first off, aosp and stock are two completely different roms. stock roms also have closed source code included, where aosp roms dont have that code included, so they WILL run differently, as two different roms should.
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anyways, the answer to your question is really simple.. better is whatever is better for you,personally. to you, image based roms are better. for me, aosp is better.
as a real answer of which is better doesnt exist, its all which is better for you(or me).
Had you followed the rules you would know threads like this don't stay open long.
There is no best. Or better. There is only what works for you.
Most people that get a nexus device do it for the active development. Which does mean some bugs here and there, but that is the fun. In learning, finding and killing bugs. If you got a nexus for any other reason you really are not doing yourself any favors.