Hi folks,
Just got my TF701T from Amazon on the $279 deal. I've connected it to my wifi but have not even set up a google account for it yet. It's doing an initial charge.
Is there any compelling reason not to let the update happen? The main short term use for the tablet will be that my 7 year old son will play games on it. Eventually, I'd still like to unlock it and maybe to a custom OS, but for now it's plain Jane use.
The only special thing I might want to do is get Helium/Carbon going so I can backup / restore game positions for him... I've got his status on several games saved from another tablet that had root and I backed them up. Would like to restore if possible. Does this require root?
Thanks. Looking forward to advice.
Marc
Hi, before giving my opinion, I would suggest you to look through the forum while you are here. That said, I have some opinions against updating to 4.4.2. The main reason is that there are some battery issues on that boot loader for some unknown reason. Also, there is no root exploit available for the 4.4.2 version without having to unlock the boot loader. I was told that 4.3 was the best to stay on right now if you can.I just recently got my tablet too from that same deal. On 4.3 there is a easy root exploit called towelroot available, so you can root without unlocking.
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I also believe that carbon needs root for using it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!!
royredman said:
Hi, before giving my opinion, I would suggest you to look through the forum while you are here. That said, I have some opinions against updating to 4.4.2. The main reason is that there are some battery issues on that boot loader for some unknown reason. Also, there is no root exploit available for the 4.4.2 version without having to unlock the boot loader. I was told that 4.3 was the best to stay on right now if you can.I just recently got my tablet too from that same deal. On 4.3 there is a easy root exploit called towelroot available, so you can root without unlocking.
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I also believe that carbon needs root for using it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!!
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Thanks. I've used Carbon and believed it requires root, too. I'm a bit surprised that Towelroot wouldn't work on 4.4.2, as it was originally designed for 4.4.2 on Samsung and similar related kernel units. I've used it on my Samsung S4, and it required being on a pretty up to date 4.4.2 build. Wouldn't work on 4.3. But it may be different on the Asus.
I saw a mention off battery drain on 4.4.2 but without details. I'll continue looking. For now I've charged then powered off the tablet. No time to set it up tonight anyway. Seems like a very nice unit though.
Thanks for your reply!
Marc
Frankenscript said:
Thanks. I've used Carbon and believed it requires root, too. I'm a bit surprised that Towelroot wouldn't work on 4.4.2, as it was originally designed for 4.4.2 on Samsung and similar related kernel units. I've used it on my Samsung S4, and it required being on a pretty up to date 4.4.2 build. Wouldn't work on 4.3. But it may be different on the Asus.
I saw a mention off battery drain on 4.4.2 but without details. I'll continue looking. For now I've charged then powered off the tablet. No time to set it up tonight anyway. Seems like a very nice unit though.
Thanks for your reply!
Marc
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Yeah, from what I understand, towelroot worked on the galaxy s4 (my current awesome phone) because the exploit wasn't patched at that time for the phone, but sadly Asus patched it as for the 4.4.2 drain, Netflix seems to be one of the couple of apps that is really draining power. Not really sure about it, but I'm probably not going to update until the next update is released.
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Yeah, from what I understand, towelroot worked on the galaxy s4 (my current awesome phone) because the exploit wasn't patched at that time for the phone, but sadly Asus patched it as for the 4.4.2 drain, Netflix seems to be one of the couple of apps that is really draining power. Not really sure about it, but I'm probably not going to update until the next update is released.
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Thanks. I read up a bit and indeed see how they patched the exploit before the 4.4.2 build, so sadly no Towelroot in Kitkat for us, without unlocking the bootloader and voiding warranty.
Since I will be using the tablet just for kid use, 4.3 will be just fine for now. Which of the (US) firmwares is the best to flash? I'm having some trouble relating the build numbers listed to the "4.2.2 / 4.3 / 4.4.2 etc" nomenclature. I've been reviewing the Device Essential Material thread but I'm still learning the ropes on the Asus.
So as I understand it, I get the right one downloaded, unzip it (one level), put it in sdcard root directory, reboot, and it auto-applies. Is that correct? Then Towelroot,, presumably SuperSU, then I can freeze the update processes with TiBU or somesuch. IS there a good description of what to freeze to prevent further update notices?
Anything else I should know? I'm still catching up.
Marc
PS. Based on THIS POST it sounds like I want 10.26.1.18 . Do you agree?
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Thanks. I read up a bit and indeed see how they patched the exploit before the 4.4.2 build, so sadly no Towelroot in Kitkat for us, without unlocking the bootloader and voiding warranty.
Since I will be using the tablet just for kid use, 4.3 will be just fine for now. Which of the (US) firmwares is the best to flash? I'm having some trouble relating the build numbers listed to the "4.2.2 / 4.3 / 4.4.2 etc" nomenclature. I've been reviewing the Device Essential Material thread but I'm still learning the ropes on the Asus.
So as I understand it, I get the right one downloaded, unzip it (one level), put it in sdcard root directory, reboot, and it auto-applies. Is that correct? Then Towelroot,, presumably SuperSU, then I can freeze the update processes with TiBU or somesuch. IS there a good description of what to freeze to prevent further update notices?
Anything else I should know? I'm still catching up.
Marc
PS. Based on THIS POST it sounds like I want 10.26.1.18 . Do you agree?
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You can use any on. I just used the one that was on my tablets before (which was US). 10.26.1.18 is the 4.3 file to grab. Yup, unzip once and put it on the sd root file. For me, when I rebooted it, it let me know that there was a downloaded update detected (NOT the normal "click this button to download the system update")(be really careful about that one). Once I tapped the detected update file, it showed me it was the 10.26.1.18 file and I told it to install it.
If you want to see what to freeze, go into the towelroot thread in the Q&A section and look for my posts on the last page or so. I was asking exactly the same thing and they answered it all for me. Good luck and let me know if it goes well!!
Frankenscript said:
Thanks. I read up a bit and indeed see how they patched the exploit before the 4.4.2 build, so sadly no Towelroot in Kitkat for us, without unlocking the bootloader and voiding warranty.
Since I will be using the tablet just for kid use, 4.3 will be just fine for now. Which of the (US) firmwares is the best to flash? I'm having some trouble relating the build numbers listed to the "4.2.2 / 4.3 / 4.4.2 etc" nomenclature. I've been reviewing the Device Essential Material thread but I'm still learning the ropes on the Asus.
So as I understand it, I get the right one downloaded, unzip it (one level), put it in sdcard root directory, reboot, and it auto-applies. Is that correct? Then Towelroot,, presumably SuperSU, then I can freeze the update processes with TiBU or somesuch. IS there a good description of what to freeze to prevent further update notices?
Anything else I should know? I'm still catching up.
Marc
PS. Based on THIS POST it sounds like I want 10.26.1.18 . Do you agree?
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You got it.
The .18 firmware is the JB 4.3. But stick to your SKU (US, WW - whatever it is now).
Once rooted freeze DMClient and CMClient and you won't be bothered with OTA updates.
Thanks! It's all done.
For anyone who reads this and needs to do the same thing, it was super easy. Just plugged the new Tab into the PC via USB, opened up to "Internal Storage", copied the UL-K00C-US-10.26.1.18-user.zip file over there, and rebooted. It auto-applied, rebooted again. Eventually I had to delete the .zip file from the internal storage, because on each reboot it would notice it and spend time figuring out if it had new updates or not.
Then Towelroot, SuperSU, and used App Quarantine-Root to freeze DMClient and CMClient. Rebooted again and no more update waiting for download messages.
I'm good to go!
royredman said:
Hi, before giving my opinion, I would suggest you to look through the forum while you are here. That said, I have some opinions against updating to 4.4.2. The main reason is that there are some battery issues on that boot loader for some unknown reason. Also, there is no root exploit available for the 4.4.2 version without having to unlock the boot loader. I was told that 4.3 was the best to stay on right now if you can.I just recently got my tablet too from that same deal. On 4.3 there is a easy root exploit called towelroot available, so you can root without unlocking.
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I also believe that carbon needs root for using it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!!
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First, i can confirm battery issues with 4.4.2. Android sometimes does not go to deepsleep (even if there are no addition apps installed, it seems a general problem). If i charge the tablet to 100% and go to bed, on the next morning i can be glad, if i have 30% battery left. Not always, but every 2.nd or 3rd night.
Second, a little question. Becauce of this "bug" i'd like to root my tablet and use a custom rom. I would like to use this method "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604462 <- [MOD] JB 4.3+ | TF701T | Flashable Root Method v2 | Asus Stock 10.26.1.7/18
My first problem is the unlock app from asus. On the support site a text says: "1. Only suitable for Android4.2 Jelly Bean OS version" . But, according to most of the threads here, i should also work with 4.4.2??
The second question is, if the root method i just linked, works without any problems with the last asus update 4.4.2?
Using the tablet with this battery issue is horrible.
Thanks!
Hypothetix said:
First, i can confirm battery issues with 4.4.2. Android sometimes does not go to deepsleep (even if there are no addition apps installed, it seems a general problem). If i charge the tablet to 100% and go to bed, on the next morning i can be glad, if i have 30% battery left. Not always, but every 2.nd or 3rd night.
Second, a little question. Becauce of this "bug" i'd like to root my tablet and use a custom rom. I would like to use this method "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604462 <- [MOD] JB 4.3+ | TF701T | Flashable Root Method v2 | Asus Stock 10.26.1.7/18
My first problem is the unlock app from asus. On the support site a text says: "1. Only suitable for Android4.2 Jelly Bean OS version" . But, according to most of the threads here, i should also work with 4.4.2??
The second question is, if the root method i just linked, works without any problems with the last asus update 4.4.2?
Using the tablet with this battery issue is horrible.
Thanks!
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Reg. Battery drain: Did you run Netflix on those nights you had that severe battery drain?
Reg. Unlock: The tool should work on any fimware version. Just run it. Worst case scenario: It won't work.
Reg. Root: Why would you root the stock rom if you want to replace it with a custom rom anyway?
To install a custom rom you need to:
A) unlock the bootloader
B) flash a custom recovery in fastboot
C) create a nandroid of your stock rom in recovery
D) wipe cache, Dalvik and data using your custom recovery
E) flash the custom rom (which is rooted anyway).
For general reference on flashing custom roms to the Transformer, check out my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688891
NOTE: This is a guide for the TF700!! The general instructions on flashing, fastboot commands etc still apply. The specifics like recovery and version, bootloader and version etc DO NOT.
For TF701 specific instructions check out the OP of the CROMi-X thread in the Development section for the TF701 here on XDA.
berndblb said:
Reg. Battery drain: Did you run Netflix on those nights you had that severe battery drain?
Reg. Unlock: The tool should work on any fimware version. Just run it. Worst case scenario: It won't work.
Reg. Root: Why would you root the stock rom if you want to replace it with a custom rom anyway?
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Thanks. Yes i know. I like the look the stock rom has. Therefore i first wanted to test, if i can stop the battery drain, if i use apps like greenify to send a few apps to deepsleep.
I rooted yesterday and tested it. Unfortunately, even with greenify i have the same problem. Every time i use the keydock, the tablet does not go into deepsleep mode. I checked with wakeup detector if i can find out which app is bad, but there are no apps which wake up the tablet more that 5 or 6 times.... If i use the tablet without the dock i dont have this problem (or just when i use netflix and dont reboot after usage)
Now i will try a custom rom....maybe it helps.
Thanks !
Hi xda
I have referred to this site many times for help but never became a member until now - I seriously need some help!
I recently bought a second hand S3 LTE which I knew was locked but as I had unlocked a few phones in the past I thought it wouldn't be a problem... until I encountered Android 4.3 and its bodyguard Knox. Searching on forums I found many other people experiencing similar problems but nothing conclusive that didn't involve using a Z3X box which costs about as much as I paid for the phone.
Apologies if this has already been covered in some form in another thread but I have done a lot of searching and a lot of hair pulling before coming to this stage.
So to cut a long story short I managed to successfully root the phone using CF through Odin and installed the version of SuperSU capable of bypassing it (downloaded .apk as opposed to play store which some people had said worked).
Next stage was to remove Knox, I installed NoBloat Free as suggested by someone in another forum and I basically removed anything with the word Knox in it and that seems to have done the job.
Now I just need to unlock the damn thing! While I have had some experience with rooting / unlocking a few android phones etc I really don't have much knowledge on the subject and pretty much forget it all in between phones :silly:
For the record I don't care about warranty, flags etc and am more than happy to downgrade if it means getting the phone working.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[A] Need help unlocking S3 on 4.3
Hi. The only way I know is via 4.1.1 ROM as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help-i9305/sim-card-unlock-samsung-galaxy-s3-gt-t2185866 (no root needed, just install the 4.1.1 using Odin)
I recently unlocked a stock 4.3 I9305 downgrading it to 4.1.1 first. It worked fine and then I restored a Cyanogenmod 4.4.4 ROM I had from another I9305 of mine. And then on CM I "lost" the IMEI (it happens), but I easily recovered it.
bouipoz said:
Hi xda
I have referred to this site many times for help but never became a member until now - I seriously need some help!
I recently bought a second hand S3 LTE which I knew was locked but as I had unlocked a few phones in the past I thought it wouldn't be a problem... until I encountered Android 4.3 and its bodyguard Knox. Searching on forums I found many other people experiencing similar problems but nothing conclusive that didn't involve using a Z3X box which costs about as much as I paid for the phone.
Apologies if this has already been covered in some form in another thread but I have done a lot of searching and a lot of hair pulling before coming to this stage.
So to cut a long story short I managed to successfully root the phone using CF through Odin and installed the version of SuperSU capable of bypassing it (downloaded .apk as opposed to play store which some people had said worked).
Next stage was to remove Knox, I installed NoBloat Free as suggested by someone in another forum and I basically removed anything with the word Knox in it and that seems to have done the job.
Now I just need to unlock the damn thing! While I have had some experience with rooting / unlocking a few android phones etc I really don't have much knowledge on the subject and pretty much forget it all in between phones :silly:
For the record I don't care about warranty, flags etc and am more than happy to downgrade if it means getting the phone working.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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It seems that I have root for...most...intents and purposes, but not when it come to things like xposed or next app so fix. Now I'm running 1.4.4.B.0.37 On Xperia Z1s. Rooted using flash tool, note... Does seem to freeze at the reboot part when it tries to install busybox so I manually install from marke. I had root for awhile then saw on xda that you could "proper" root by updating threw ota. Tried and failed multiple times. I have a screenshot of the error from xposed. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Figured Out
Well, i never gave up and figured out the problem. Even though i had the newest version through OTA, it did me no good to revert back to last version since thats the version you have to "proper" root. Sooo, i downgraded...again...to stock (C6916_14.2.C.0.159_TMobile.ftf) then rooted and it worked. doing installs and checking as i type but so far viper4android and xposed are g2g. now to upgrade to next version (C6916_14.4.B.0.37_T-Mobile.ftf) for "proper" root. thanks and glad if i could help others with same problem. I think i will post a guide for z1s so others (seems to be alot of us) can have noob friendly guide. :highfive:
starting my guide...
I am starting my guide and wanted to know if there should be a specific area i should post it? Is the correct place here in the Q&A area? or in the Development area?
I need some help rooting my phone. I dont think I can use PingPong root because I have a base version of G920AUCU2AOF3, and I don't think it's supported yet. I only know of one other way to root and its Here. I cant figure out if I can root and not trip KNOX or anything else. Can I root with this without any repercussions or is there another way to root that is safe?
You need to search the forum, this has been asked many times before.
anneoneamouse said:
You need to search the forum, this has been asked many times before.
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I did, I didn't find anything. Everything I found is for 5.1.1
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I did, I didn't find anything. Everything I found is for 5.1.1
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Well if you wont answer my question, then how do I downgrade from 5.0.2 to 5.0 so I can root?
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Well if you wont answer my question, then how do I downgrade from 5.0.2 to 5.0 so I can root?
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The answers to all your questions have already been answered. Effective search techniques, which you apparently lack, would find them. But I will spoonfeed you the answer and further clutter the forum, making it more difficult for others to search.
If you are on unrooted OF3 or OF4 on an AT&T device, you cannot root now, and you cannot revert to an older build. You will have to wait for a new root exploit to be found. Or return your device and buy an international one with unlocked bootloader.
I read threads that say you can't but they were older. If a question is asked multiple time, to fix your problem, maybe a stickied thread is needed.... Just a thought.
I'm kinda a noob at this but I'm not completely clueless. .. I've tried a couple one click apps, watched a few videos, and read countless articles without any luck. .. can someone help me? If it's even possible....
From all I've read, no, you can't. You can root NC2 (Android 4.4.2 KitKat) or OC1. You might check this post out.
An old thread, but I just wanted to leave this for others.
There aren't any public tools to directly root the OC3, OC2, or OC1 Lollipop firmwares for the N900A.
However, it is possible to achieve root by wiping the phone, installing the NC2 (KitKat) firmware, and then upgrading the OCx, while preserving root access.
I had followed the threads (at the time back then) using SafeStrap methods, but I couldn't get SafeStrap to work with OC3, so I had to abandon SafeStrap and use FlashFire to install OC3 and maintain root.
After that, I deodexed OC3, install xposed, and was up and running happy.
I'm not sure exactly what Samsung fixed, but OC3 was released a full 18 months after OC2, so I think it's a more secure software release (only 2.5 years old, instead of 4+ years, heh). I recall that on OC2, some of the stagefright CVE's still showed as vulnerable, but I just ran the Zimperium app on OC3 and see it reports that it's not vulnerable to any of the CVEs.
@digitalcandy4me thanks for the helpful info. This is one of the few times I've read this solution. It's the only one I've seen that seems promising.
Like OP I'm newb. But I've never rooted a phone. I've done plenty of other tech but I hate coding. I just want to change the dumb stock rom on this phone. Bloatware haunts me simply on principal.
I have "unlocked" att 5.0 lollipop Samsung n900a 0c3 and info on this phone is crickets. I have no idea how to downgrade to 4.4, I'm not confident it will even work but I'll try it. I paid 70$ so no big deal + it seems like I couldn't even succeed in bricking this stupid vault.
ANYWAY could you possibly give some more detail on how to do this? I know people hate getting vague questions on this board but it seems like there's no where to find answers. I really have looked.
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FluppingCrud said:
@digitalcandy4me thanks for the helpful info. This is one of the few times I've read this solution. It's the only one I've seen that seems promising.
Like OP I'm newb. But I've never rooted a phone. I've done plenty of other tech but I hate coding. I just want to change the dumb stock rom on this phone. Bloatware haunts me simply on principal.
I have "unlocked" att 5.0 lollipop Samsung n900a 0c3 and info on this phone is crickets. I have no idea how to downgrade to 4.4, I'm not confident it will even work but I'll try it. I paid 70$ so no big deal + it seems like I couldn't even succeed in bricking this stupid vault.
ANYWAY could you possibly give some more detail on how to do this? I know people hate getting vague questions on this board but it seems like there's no where to find answers. I really have looked.
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Flash nc1 firmware, towel root....install busybox and safe strap and flash away.
FluppingCrud said:
@digitalcandy4me thanks for the helpful info. This is one of the few times I've read this solution. It's the only one I've seen that seems promising.
Like OP I'm newb. But I've never rooted a phone. I've done plenty of other tech but I hate coding. I just want to change the dumb stock rom on this phone. Bloatware haunts me simply on principal.
I have "unlocked" att 5.0 lollipop Samsung n900a 0c3 and info on this phone is crickets. I have no idea how to downgrade to 4.4, I'm not confident it will even work but I'll try it. I paid 70$ so no big deal + it seems like I couldn't even succeed in bricking this stupid vault.
ANYWAY could you possibly give some more detail on how to do this? I know people hate getting vague questions on this board but it seems like there's no where to find answers. I really have looked.
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Read my answer!
chrisnice906 said:
Flash nc1 firmware, towel root....install busybox and safe strap and flash away.
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Maybe u should not be modifying phones.