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Hi there guys, I have not (yet) rooted my Z1 or flashed any custom roms.
I have however, been waiting patiently for the new KitKat OTA update. I've been reading loads of news posts about how Sony has released the firmware globally now but I still have not received it and I'm starting to feel quite left out .
Is there something I'm missing or can anyone recommend a way of triggering the update?
wait, but if you are really desperate just flash a 4.4.2 FTF
gregbradley said:
wait, but if you are really desperate just flash a 4.4.2 FTF
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Surely if they're are already rolling out "globally" then something has gone wrong with my phone?
Also does this new firmware come with the same KitKat writing to SD problems?
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Surely if they're are already rolling out "globally" then something has gone wrong with my phone?
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No not necessarily, rollouts take upto 2 months depending on location and carrier
Also does this new firmware come with the same KitKat writing to SD problems?
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That is not a problem, it is actually a fix for a security vulnerability and it is implemented on all KK versions.
Hmm.
A "fix", for me at least, doesn't involve removing functionality from the device especially when workarounds have already been found.
Reminds me of when Sony removed the second OS function from the PS3 on "security" grounds.
freerangeninja said:
Hmm.
A "fix", for me at least, doesn't involve removing functionality from the device especially when workarounds have already been found.
Reminds me of when Sony removed the second OS function from the PS3 on "security" grounds.
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This has nothing to do with Sony, google have implemented it and as part of the contarct with google EVERY company must implement it.
This solves the security problem that was in place before, it should have been done a lot sooner and in actual fact makes your device more secure. It didn't make sense that it was not in place before.
Yes, there are workarounds, but they break the security, so you make your choice....
Eventually apps will be updated with the correct permissions and you wont even notice the difference
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This has nothing to do with Sony, google have implemented it and as part of the contarct with google EVERY company must implement it.
This solves the security problem that was in place before, it should have been done a lot sooner and in actual fact makes your device more secure. It didn't make sense that it was not in place before.
Yes, there are workarounds, but they break the security, so you make your choice....
Eventually apps will be updated with the correct permissions and you wont even notice the difference
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Let's say I don't use a device with the SD, I use one without it and to store my stuff, sensitive information, I use the internal. Where is now the security in all of this?
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Let's say I don't use a device with the SD, I use one without it and to store my stuff, sensitive information, I use the internal. Where is now the security in all of this?
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The internal SDcard supports file permissions. The external one did not.
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The internal SDcard supports file permissions. The external one did not.
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Then Google screwed all of Us and now we have to update our phones (spend another cash) with the high internal storage, great.
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Then Google screwed all of Us and now we have to update our phones (spend another cash) with the high internal storage, great.
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Yep you just understand it, that's just pain in the @ss...
I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
Thanks for your help
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I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
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The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
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Not at all true.
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
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Completely imaginary.
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
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I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Completely imaginary.
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http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
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I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm in agreement with @doitright. I can say nothing but good about this device. I do not have any of those issues nor know of any that do. As with any device though there are always some bad ones that an unlucky few receive. It does not make all of them bad just those. My phone is a beast. It outperforms the N5 by miles. Screen looks amazing. Icons to me look great I haven't come across a bad looking icon except that of my bank.... I guess banks hire poor developers idk. Storage is incredibly fast. Camera is fantastic. Fastest signal acquisition I've seen on any phone including GPS.
Eh. Entirely up to you what you want to do. I don't trust any reviews. I rather go with my own opinions/feelings on anything. You should too.
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I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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App icons are controlled by the dev. I've never seen a fuzzy one.
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.
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The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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That's what I was thinking about, would it be possible for them to get rid of the encryption with an OTA , I would think that one needs to factory reset your device
Chad_Petree said:
I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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I congratulate you on finding a thread about an imaginary problem, and a "fix" for an imaginary problem.
There is a certain subset of people who will do anything, IMAGINE anything, to find a problem. Don't ask me why they are like that. Sucks to be them.
I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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You can't do anything to increase the fuzzyness of an image, unless you actually stretch it larger. I.e., if it takes the same physical space on the screen, then increasing the DPI on the screen won't cause it to become more fuzzy -- it just won't increase in SHARPNESS with the display. Google has specifications regarding the dimensions of the icons, and these specifications have always included a "much larger" image than what will actually display on the screen. The icons actually get scaled down to fit. So really, don't worry about it. If you find an application with a ugly/fuzzy icon, complain to the application vendor, because they're the ones who made an ugly icon, not the platform.
I just can't stress enough, that this is a silly point to use to avoid a device.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
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I *absolutely promise you* that they WILL NOT eliminate the encryption requirement. Those "android one" devices are... really really cheap. It is likely that they don't force encryption simply because they are not up to the task.
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
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I CAN confirm that it does. There is no question at all. It is part of all snapdragon SoC's since about S4.
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
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There are two sides to the use of encryption hardware with qualcomm SoC's; the first is the "blobs", and the second is the integration with Android and the Linux kernel. Specifically, qualcomm's hardware crypto requires changes both to the kernel (which is under GPL), as well as VOLD (which is under APL).
Obviously, to include the kernel part, that kernel part MUST be provided as source. There is absolutely no option here.
VOLD is the part of Android responsible for mounting and managing disks. It is under the Apache license, which means that technically speaking, it can be distributed without including source, HOWEVER, this is a Nexus from Google, which means that they really can't ship a blob in place of VOLD. It has to be possible to build VOLD from AOSP.
So here is what was going on; at the time that Nexus 6 first shipped, Qualcomm HAD NOT made the source for Kernel or Vold available on CAF. That made it *impossible* for Google to include, since they would have to provide kernel code on request, and require that AOSP VOLD actually build and work.
QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!
And, in fact, there are a number of devices for which CM actually builds and includes hwcrypto *right now*.
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
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This isn't even a half solution, because even though it may seem to improve storage performance to an acceptable level, it has to nail the CPU while doing so.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
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Technically possible, but I *promise* you, it won't happen.
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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Most definitely CAN be used. No question about it.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
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You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.
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Keep in mind that the test unit in the store gets abused.
DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....
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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
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Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
doitright said:
You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
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What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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I would guess deactivate to gain read/write speed increase now, if the update enables HW encryption then you would let it.
Oh, and that is the point - nothing is perfect, not the N6, nor the units that will come after it hehehe....
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DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
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I said on *some* devices. I did not say that they were enabling it on Nexus 6.
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
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Yep, I'm totally with you on that. My last phone was a samsuck.... NEVER again. I spent WAY too many hundreds of hours on kernel and device tree maintenance to get and keep that thing working adequately on CM... then Omnirom (omni is waaaaaay nicer than CM). After a year of ownership of that thing, got the wife a Hammerhead (nexus 5), and its been just so easy to maintain. Literally all I ever did with her phone was add root, busybox, and xposed (to kill a couple of the google services wakelocks). This time around, I wanted the thing to just freaking work already!!!! Only downside is that its a bit *larger* than I would have liked.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....
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I don't think that you should buy from verizon, even if/when they sell it directly. It will likely be crippled and branded, at least to some extent. Buy it from tmobile or google play store, and all you need to do is throw your verizon sim card into it. I think I heard that sprint also does not molest it. Oh, it could also be purchased directly from motorola.
Just whatever you do, do NOT buy it from ATT. They DO molest and cripple it.
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What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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To gain RW performance NOW... DUH.
I'll be getting it from VZ, because I just don't have the spare $$$ to buy direct and place it on VZ.
ATT taught us that VZ will have to toss its bloat on the oem partition just like anyone else, so ... as far as branding, I think that may rub off like ATT's, but if not I plan on putting in a case anyway.
Now we have to wait another two weeks if the newest rumor is true ...
To those that updated to 5.1 via OTA, what's the disk speed with encryption turned on? Is it much improved over 5.0? Does it take advantage of Qualcomm's hardware?
I came here to learn the same. I have the modified boot to disable encryption, but if the new HW-based encryption is much faster, I'll happily switch back
Yes very interested in this. I am holding off on the ota since I want to keep it unencrypted and I can find out how to move to 5.1 with staying decrypted
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What app do I need? I'll check it.
Anandtech used Androbench: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8725/encryption-and-storage-performance-in-android-50-lollipop
Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromeda.androbench2&hl=en
Here ya go.
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Darn. Still a huge hit on sequential read (mine's at 223). The rest isn't as bad a hit, though.
For comparison, here's what I just got when I ran it on 5.0.1 unencrypted.
Just ran again. Better!
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Just ran again. Better!
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Oh, much, yes! Thanks! Okay, that's encouraging...
How fast was 5.01 stock encrypted for reference?
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How fast was 5.01 stock encrypted for reference?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...us-6-encrypted-vs-unencrypted-its-not-pretty/
For comparison - I'm also running 5.1 stock encrypted
It looks like there was a performance improvement.
Won't HW encryption still be slower than NO encryption?
Do we know for sure that HW encryption is enabled in 5.1?
Looking at some of the commit messages, I first thought that it *might* be but the more I looked at the code, the more it looked like they did a lot of prep work but actually kept it disabled (i.e. we're still software-only).
I could be wrong, though...
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Do we know for sure that HW encryption is enabled in 5.1?
Looking at some of the commit messages, I first thought that it *might* be but the more I looked at the code, the more it looked like they did a lot of prep work but actually kept it disabled (i.e. we're still software-only).
I could be wrong, though...
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Really hard to judge. But either way, it's clearly improved. Less fast than NO encryption, much faster than before. Sounds like that's PROBABLY due to hardware.
Either way, I do have to say that so far my phone's performing better. Not merely subjectively. A game I play (Spider-Man Unlimited) was impossibly laggy before. It was known for having lag issues, but on my Nexus 5 and 6, post-Lollipop, it was nearly unplayable. In the short time I've been running 5.1, it's been a dramatic improvement. So even if encryption does cause a small hit, other improvements have more than made up for it.
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Do we know for sure that HW encryption is enabled in 5.1?
Looking at some of the commit messages, I first thought that it *might* be but the more I looked at the code, the more it looked like they did a lot of prep work but actually kept it disabled (i.e. we're still software-only).
I could be wrong, though...
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For those that do know how (I don't), can we find out if hardware is being utilized? Perhaps through source code or logs?
Also, is encryption still forced? That is, is there any option in settings to disable encryption if encrypted, without using a modified kernel?
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Really hard to judge. But either way, it's clearly improved. Less fast than NO encryption, much faster than before. Sounds like that's PROBABLY due to hardware.
Either way, I do have to say that so far my phone's performing better. Not merely subjectively. A game I play (Spider-Man Unlimited) was impossibly laggy before. It was known for having lag issues, but on my Nexus 5 and 6, post-Lollipop, it was nearly unplayable. In the short time I've been running 5.1, it's been a dramatic improvement. So even if encryption does cause a small hit, other improvements have more than made up for it.
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What what spider man unlimited is now playable? Biggest news ever!! I'm not joking either. I've had to constantly play on my moto x instead. [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]
If they moved it to hardware encryption, I may re-enable it, but would rather wait to find out...figure it is saving me some battery by having encryption disabled still.
They do mention it being enabled or added here:
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-5-1-changelog-593573/
Is there anyway to confirm that it was indeed flipped on in the code?
Might sound silly but one of my favorite Android games (Jet Set Radio) was never updated to run on lollipop. Sega has instead just pulled the app from the market. The game starts to load but soon crashes. Without knowing anything about development i have a feeling the problem is probably not a serious one and a talented developer maybe able to get the .apk working again
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Might sound silly but one of my favorite Android games (Jet Set Radio) was never updated to run on lollipop. Sega has instead just pulled the app from the market. The game starts to load but soon crashes. Without knowing anything about development i have a feeling the problem is probably not a serious one and a talented developer maybe able to get the .apk working again
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sure, if Sega publicly puts up its source for the game. otherwise, no developer will ever touch it.
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sure, if Sega publicly puts up its source for the game. otherwise, no developer will ever touch it.
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That. ^^^
Also, just don't. Don't start bounties, don't create pressure on a developer to do anything. If you want to see what is what, send them an email offering to pay them directly.
Also, if the program/game was popular and they pulled it, then it was probably more than trivial changes needed to make it work again.
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That. ^^^
Also, just don't. Don't start bounties, don't create pressure on a developer to do anything. If you want to see what is what, send them an email offering to pay them directly.
Also, if the program/game was popular and they pulled it, then it was probably more than trivial changes needed to make it work again.
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Sega is just a terrible Mobile company. They recently pulled many titles some of which still work even without updates on lolipop.
I heard the Company as a whole is focusing more on mobile but with moves like this how? Unless they will rely on the strength of a few key titles (like SonicRush) and say screw the rest
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Sega is just a terrible Mobile company. They recently pulled many titles some of which still work even without updates on lolipop.
I heard the Company as a whole is focusing more on mobile but with moves like this how? Unless they will rely on the strength of a few key titles (like SonicRush) and say screw the rest
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Seems to be a little bit harsh. Not sure why you think that they would keep dumping resources into software that is EOL.
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Seems to be a little bit harsh. Not sure why you think that they would keep dumping resources into software that is EOL.
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End of life? Some games they pulled were only released for mobile in the last 12-18 months. Unless this was a quick cash in deal on a few high profile games. Make a quick buck and than abandon the title when it comes time to needing an update
Hand76 said:
End of life? Some games they pulled were only released for mobile in the last 12-18 months. Unless this was a quick cash in deal on a few high profile games. Make a quick buck and than abandon the title when it comes time to needing an update
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They pulled it from the app store for incompatibility issues. I followed a link saying "get it from play before it disappears" and I was able to install it.
danarama said:
They pulled it from the app store for incompatibility issues. I followed a link saying "get it from play before it disappears" and I was able to install it.
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Yea but Jet Set Radio just doesn't work on lollipop
Hand76 said:
Yea but Jet Set Radio just doesn't work on lollipop
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doesn't work on m either, I tried :angel:
Hand76 said:
Yea but Jet Set Radio just doesn't work on lollipop
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I know. Just saying, it hasnt been pulled yet. ...and their intention is to fix it on ios8 so all is not lost.
danarama said:
I know. Just saying, it hasnt been pulled yet. ...and their intention is to fix it on ios8 so all is not lost.
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Unless something has changed they cancelled that too.
https://www.afterpad.com/sega-cancels-jet-set-radio-ios-8-update
Guessing it's 9.05. won't be sure until I reboot.
Just updated mine still says 9.0
majortaylor said:
Just updated mine still says 9.0
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9.05 is OnePlus's software version.
9 is Android P, from Android/Google.
MidtownHD said:
9.05 is OnePlus's software version.
9 is Android P, from Android/Google.
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I know that lol but Oxygen os version still says 9.0
MidtownHD said:
9.05 is OnePlus's software version.
9 is Android P, from Android/Google.
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Doesn't seem to include 9.0.5's feature set, so it may be based on it stability and system improvements wise, but doesn't add some if not most of the perks of the actual OOS build, no wonder it took so long to be released...
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Doesn't seem to include 9.0.5's feature set, so it may be based on it stability and system improvements wise, but doesn't add some if not most of the perks of the actual OOS build, no wonder it took so long to be released...
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At least the fingerprint reader feels faster
majortaylor said:
At least the fingerprint reader feels faster
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Yeah that's definitely a plus, it was one of the reasons I converted, worked so much better on 9.0.5, good for everyone who's still on stock, device works better now and they said nightmode got an update too, so pics should be nicer in the dark.
So they added the stability updates, but ripped out everything else it seems. Not cool. Wonder how long it'll actually take us to get the 9.05 build.
DOTC said:
So they added the stability updates, but ripped out everything else it seems. Not cool. Wonder how long it'll actually take us to get the 9.05 build.
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Someone said black friday, so roughly a week from now, sit tight and see what happens in a week.
Eh in that case I'll just wait a couple more days to get my token and move straight to international 9.0.5. I wonder what they did to the Unlock app. Lol.
mang0 said:
Eh in that case I'll just wait a couple more days to get my token and move straight to international 9.0.5. I wonder what they did to the Unlock app. Lol.
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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The update mentions something about updating the Unlock app. I mean obviously for us it's not a big deal anymore, but I wonder if they fixed the problem where people were only getting temporary unlocks approved but perm unlocks pushed through.
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The update mentions something about updating the Unlock app. I mean obviously for us it's not a big deal anymore, but I wonder if they fixed the problem where people were only getting temporary unlocks approved but perm unlocks pushed through.
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Orrrrr maybe they fixed that possible bug where people would request permanent unlocks immediately at purchase and got approved despite being on eip and under 40 days, some even tried within the first 24hrs and got approved automatically for some odd reason, lol.
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Orrrrr maybe they fixed that possible bug where people would request permanent unlocks immediately at purchase and got approved despite being on eip and under 40 days, some even tried within the first 24hrs and got approved automatically for some odd reason, lol.
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Yeah true. Gonna make it harder for perm unlocks!
Got this off reddit. Seems to add the new gestures from 9.0.5(?) as well as other improvements. Can someone who got this update on the TMO firmware check to see if the gestures are actually the ones in the latest update. Then we can confirm that the TMO variant just has a different naming convention.
Also, the build of that is 181029 while the 9.0.5 intl. is 181103
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Got this off reddit. Seems to add the new gestures from 9.0.5(?) as well as other improvements. Can someone who got this update on the TMO firmware check to see if the gestures are actually the ones in the latest update. Then we can confirm that the TMO variant just has a different naming convention.
Also, the build of that is 181029 while the 9.0.5 intl. is 181103
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Just installed and yes it's the new gestures
Can someone who updated check if quick launch is available now?
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Can someone who updated check if quick launch is available now?
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Just updated boyfriend's, and here's his Utilities settings.
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Can someone who updated check if quick launch is available now?
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What's quick launch? Boost mode? If so its not in this update. Nor are the live wallpapers or new info screen.
Just got it minutes ago: