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Was debating on Moto X vs Nexus 5. Was going with the Nexus 5 but was hesitant due to camera and speaker issues and with the cyber monday deal for the Moto X, I'm probably going with the Moto X but have a couple of questions.
1) Is there anything else from the Nexus 5 version of Kit Kat that didn't make it other than the business search/caller ID and the Google Experience Launcher?
2) If I side load the Google Experience Launcher, how does (or does) that affect the Moto hands free "Ok Google Now" and other hands free tools ie. I think i understand "OK Google" with the GEL only works on the home screen for the Nexus 5 but the Moto X works on any screen. Does one supplant the other, do they co-exist?
Thanks!
1) Well, if you also count the camera that comes with stock KitKat, then yeah. I think the only thing you'll be missing out on would be Photosphere though.
2) OK Google is completely vaporized, everywhere. You don't see it in Google Now, you don't see it in your home screen... essentially everything will be redirected to the Moto Touchless Control first.
I fixed both speaker and camera with mods and Google is coming out with a major camera software update specifically for the Nexus soon.
I was really on the fence about these 2 and went to the store to try the moto x again yesterday. The Nexus 5 screen is just so much better and amazing. That extra smidge of size makes all the difference to me, not sure why. But Moto X is amazing in many ways so you can't go wrong. I'll stick with my N5 and maybe consider a Moto X 2 when they enhance to quad core and 1080p...
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Hey guys. Total XDA noob here.
I got my n6 came from the 2013 motox.
I love the n6 but there's one thing I miss bad enough to consider going back to the x.
Moto assist.
So this is a request/challenge. Can anyone help me get the apk for moto assist up and running on my N6?
And I'm decent for a noob with side loading and what not.
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Hey guys. Total XDA noob here.
I got my n6 came from the 2013 motox.
I love the n6 but there's one thing I miss bad enough to consider going back to the x.
Moto assist.
So this is a request/challenge. Can anyone help me get the apk for moto assist up and running on my N6?
And I'm decent for a noob with side loading and what not.
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I second this. As it would be awesome.
Moto assist is nice but I really miss Moto display...ambient display is terrible. Is there any precedence for porting an oem software to a non supported device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764635
Try this thread and report back.
wytecaztle said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764635
Try this thread and report back.
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I actually tried that yesterday, Assist installs just fine but when launched it displays an "Unsupported device" message. Modality won't even install. My Nexus 6 isn't rooted though so I didn't try modifying the build.prop but setting it to a 2014 Moto X might do the trick.
Maybe all it takes is a simple build.prop edit to make the app believe it's a 2014 X?
Can anyone walk me through setting the build.prop to a motox 2014? Or would that cause me to lose other functionality in other apps?
The moto assist app works on a partition of its dual core processor. I don't think it is as simple as changing a build.prop.
What part of assist do you want? If it's the voice texting while driving try the Agent App. It's a pretty good replacement for the driving portion of moto assist.
Anyone try the APKs from the Droid Turbo system dump? Since they're practically identical wrt specs & resolution, I'd expect those files to work with the N6... except Lollipop isn't out yet on that platform...
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What part of assist do you want? If it's the voice texting while driving try the Agent App. It's a pretty good replacement for the driving portion of moto assist.
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Pretty much just the driving portion
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Pretty much just the driving portion
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Yeah then try agent. You'll have to configure it initially because its set to auto reply to texts while driving. It reads your texts to you and asks if you want to reply in basically the same way. It detects your driving when connected to specific Bluetooth devices. It has motion detection but it is in beta but I never tested it since I preferred to activate when connected to Bluetooth.
I've been thinking a lot about this. Truthfully the whole voice command/response with the moto x was a far better experience. What are the chances of a custom ROM that incorporates the moto x features? I don't know what I'm gonna do without those features
Good point. I just bought a 2013 Moto X to see what the world knows about Moto phones that I did not. I got the DE edition for $229, great price.
I'm really liking the hands free aspect of the Moto apps. I was psyched to buy the N6, but it's lack of the Moto apps has me hesitating. I really miss Qi charging & believe it was a misstep to not include it on either Moto. Cool to see the new Druid, but is on Verizon only. Be very cool if these apps or a rom could be developed to incorporate these features. In the meantime, I'm biding time with the Moto X until there's N6 stock or a similar Moto phone to the Droid that will work with AT&T.
sailindawg said:
Good point. I just bought a 2013 Moto X to see what the world knows about Moto phones that I did not. I got the DE edition for $229, great price.
I'm really liking the hands free aspect of the Moto apps. I was psyched to buy the N6, but it's lack of the Moto apps has me hesitating. I really miss Qi charging & believe it was a misstep to not include it on either Moto. Cool to see the new Druid, but is on Verizon only. Be very cool if these apps or a rom could be developed to incorporate these features. In the meantime, I'm biding time with the Moto X until there's N6 stock or a similar Moto phone to the Droid that will work with AT&T.
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Yea I'm missing my x but the n6 is a better device overall. We'll see what happens over the next couple weeks with development. I'd pay to have the x's feature set though.
I'd really like to get Moto Display ported as well... Don't like the play store alternatives.
was anyone successfully able to get moto assist to work with the N6?
Moto X Pro will bring some hope
As motorola is launching Moto X Pro there is a hope that Nexus 6 can get moto Assist, as both share same configuration. :good:
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was anyone successfully able to get moto assist to work with the N6?
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Not yet, but possibly soon
Ah those features would be pretty nice on the N6
They come in handy, its a nice suite of features. I look forward to this as well.
I have been struggling with the decision between the Moto X (2014) and the Nexus 6. I have a Moto X (2013) Developer Edition now.
What it boils down to is battery life vs features.
Is there anyway to load a Moto X ROM onto a Nexus 6 and for it to work?
I struggled with the same process myself. I ended up with the Nexus 6 for the following reasons.
1) Nexus 6 has "OK Google" with screen off
2) Moto Assist (drive portion) features can be replaced with "Agent" app.
3) Dynamic Notifications is a good replacement for moto display but some quirks with lollipop still need to be ironed out.
4) Screen size
5) Battery, but I obviously have no idea how the moto x 2014 battery would handle my habits but I felt better about going with a larger battery over the 2300mah from the moto x. Better to start with a larger tank and adjust from there. I average 4.5 to 5 hours and I'm off the charger from 8am and the phone lasts me until 10-11pm most nights.
6) ease of modifying a nexus over most other phones. It took me a while to start modding my moto x 2014 because of the voiding of the warranty with unlocked bootloader and then the variable hoops to get the phone rooted. My experience on the nexus devices from before was so much simpler.
More than likely I would have gone with the Moto X 2014 IF the nexus 6 did not have OK google with screen off. Its a feature I didn't realize how much I used until I went from my moto x to my nexus 5 and now it's a must have feature for me.
Sacrifices I've made.
1) phone handling. The original moto x was just so easy to handle, with absolutely zero strain to reach anything. the 2014 I played with posed a few strains here and there so I figured if I have to strain a little here and there might as well do it with a phablet.
2) there are a few moto voice commands i miss like "what's up" and "where's my phone" but commandr for google now has added a lot more features w/o having to use tasker and autovoice.
3) bugs and quirks of being on lollipop. You may experience the same with Moto X 2014 since it's on lollipop as well.
i did not know about the off screen OK Google feature, thanks!!! loving my N6 more and more but i wouldnt mind Moto assist on it.
AkumaZeto said:
i did not know about the off screen OK Google feature, thanks!!! loving my N6 more and more but i wouldnt mind Moto assist on it.
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Which feature of assist do you want? If its the text to speech, Agent "do not disturb" is very similar.
Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:
I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...
I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)
I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.
Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
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me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.
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Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..
I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.
Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.
My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.
I just got this today, Marshmallow after this patch?
No, it should be 6.2 not 5
According to the motorola blog about marshmallow, the at&t model will NOT get marshmallow.
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I hate att hard
Dang, this phone is less than a year old. I ll be sticking to it for at least another year due to superior call quality.
Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.
OrenGazala said:
Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.
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I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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Possible idea, ul bootloader, install twrp. And flash the stock 6.0 rom, I took the 5.1 soak test dl and couldn't update ota, but the stock roms work great!
I hope an exploit is found soon - I'm sick of getting the software update message constantly.
wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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Well that was helpful..
KP0719 said:
You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )
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How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )
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It has really good call quality and we're going to get volte soon so the call quality is going to be better as well. But this is a moto x thread so I'm not going to talk about the iPhone anymore. Anyone know any update on root for this device yet?