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[Q] What are the advantages of Dev Edition?

What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?

coreno said:
What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
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the only thing you will see is it allows you to unlock the bootloader which makes rooting possible on all OTA's because you can just flash a customer recovery.
also when you unlock the bootloader on a consumer Moto X you void warranty when you do it on a DE Moto X it dose not.

dray_jr said:
the only thing you will see is it allows you to unlock the bootloader which makes rooting possible on all OTA's because you can just flash a customer recovery.
also when you unlock the bootloader on a consumer Moto X you void warranty when you do it on a DE Moto X it dose not.
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Also, you get 32gb vs 16gb of storage.

The Dev Edition is also 32 GB, so it's actually the same price as the 32 GB carrier edition.

Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

coreno said:
What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
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If you don't care about the astheitcs then yes it's worth it!! You get an unlocked bootloader ANd Motorola will still backup up the warranty. As to what extent they will back the warranty you would have to ask customer service.
Hope that helps

Schaweet said:
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

Schaweet said:
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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There is a thread linking to Moto's site where you can unlock bootloader's on non DE devices but it removes your warranty.

drago10029 said:
There is a thread linking to Moto's site where you can unlock bootloader's on non DE devices but it removes your warranty.
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I wish they allowed the Verizon version to be unlocked

flashallthetime said:
Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Hahaha....thats not what I meant. I meant a regular AT&T and Verizon Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Mayze23 said:
I wish they allowed the Verizon version to be unlocked
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Maybe you should have purchased the the Dev Edition. It's not like it was a secret that VZW would lock down their bootloader. They always do.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

flashallthetime said:
Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
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Hahaha....thats not what I meant. I meant a regular AT&T and Verizon Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Maybe you should have purchased the the Dev Edition. It's not like it was a secret that VZW would lock down their bootloader. They always do.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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The Verizon regular edition can't be unlocked?

coreno said:
Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
The Verizon regular edition can't be unlocked?
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No it cannot be unlocked. Neither can the AT&T version. You have to get the Dev Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

coreno said:
Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
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The bigger question would be why would someone want to downgrade the firmware as each new firmware release "upgrades" the bootloader. So it appears that once you accept a firmware update on your phone there's no going back. If there is something about the update you can't tolerate you appeared to be screwed, even with a dev ed. At least that's what I'm piecing together. I have a VZ dev ed and will try to flash the modem and system files to see what happens when 4.4.2 comes out as I'd like to keep my options open if for some reason I want to downgrade. FWIW, I've been on android since the original droid and never felt compelled to downgrade but like the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that I can if I want.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

edthesped said:
The bigger question would be why would someone want to downgrade the firmware as each new firmware release "upgrades" the bootloader. So it appears that once you accept a firmware update on your phone there's no going back. If there is something about the update you can't tolerate you appeared to be screwed, even with a dev ed. At least that's what I'm piecing together. I have a VZ dev ed and will try to flash the modem and system files to see what happens when 4.4.2 comes out as I'd like to keep my options open if for some reason I want to downgrade. FWIW, I've been on android since the original droid and never felt compelled to downgrade but like the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that I can if I want.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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4.4.2 isn't out on vzw yet? When it does come out, it sounds like it should be possible to flash it without flashing the bootloader? What effect does the bootloader have on custom roms?
Sorry for some of the newb questions, but my Galaxy Nexus didn't have any issues/concerns with the bootloader that I'm aware of. It was just flash whatever and go.

coreno said:
4.4.2 isn't out on vzw yet? When it does come out, it sounds like it should be possible to flash it without flashing the bootloader? What effect does the bootloader have on custom roms?
Sorry for some of the newb questions, but my Galaxy Nexus didn't have any issues/concerns with the bootloader that I'm aware of. It was just flash whatever and go.
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Ok forget about any former product you've had previously.
Moto is completely different when it comes to boot loaders.
Pm me please, I do not want to explain Why on a open thread as someone will hard brick their device. I gave a thread that's stickied regarding boot loaders and there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

flashallthetime said:
Ok forget about any former product you've had previously.
Moto is completely different when it comes to boot loaders.
Pm me please, I do not want to explain Why on a open thread as someone will hard brick their device. I gave a thread that's stickied regarding boot loaders and there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits BMW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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edthesped said:
Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits VZW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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Sorry for the double post i was trying to fix auto correct. I swear i turned it off.
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edthesped said:
Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits BMW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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Sorry for the double post i was trying to fix auto correct. I swear i turned it off.
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Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

flashallthetime said:
there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
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No. That is an example of why you shouldn't try to downgrade your bootloader. That person's problem was NOT that he was running an old system. It was that he was running a two-versions-old system and then tried to take an OTA meant to upgrade a bootloader from two-versions-old to one-version-old (i.e. 4.2.2 bootloader to 4.4 bootloader but he was already running 4.4.2 bootloader) -- which all translates into he was (however inadvertently) trying to downgrade his bootloader from 4.4.2 version to 4.4

piccit said:
No. That is an example of why you shouldn't try to downgrade your bootloader. That person's problem was NOT that he was running an old system. It was that he was running a two-versions-old system and then tried to take an OTA meant to upgrade a bootloader from two-versions-old to one-version-old (i.e. 4.2.2 bootloader to 4.4 bootloader but he was already running 4.4.2 bootloader) -- which all translates into he was (however inadvertently) trying to downgrade his bootloader from 4.4.2 version to 4.4
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He was trying to do something that should be done, my point was to give people a example of what happens if your boot loaders is 4.4.2 and your system file is on 4.4 and you accept the ota, that simple.
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

flashallthetime said:
...to give people a example of what happens if your boot loaders is 4.4.2 and your system file is on 4.4 and you accept the ota, that simple.
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it was running on 4.4.2 software, then i downgrade to 4.2.2. all was fine, but OTA killed it.
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Again, no. His problem was from running 4.2.2.
I don't feel like finding the posts, but others have reported success being on 4.4.2, reflashing 4.4 system + recovery, and taking the 4.4->4.4.2 OTA without problems

Need help

Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.

David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked

adity said:
I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
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Eh, thanks I was hoping to get it from motorola cause sunshine isn't working either cause it requires root, link of a working root method for locked boot loader would be much appreciated.
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David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.

KidJoe said:
No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
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Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
Sent From My Moto X Using Tapatalk

David Neon said:
Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
Sent From My Moto X Using Tapatalk
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918

KidJoe said:
Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Thanks bro, guess I am stuck with a chained phone
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[Q] Republic wireless unlock bootloader/root?

Motorola doesnt authorize the republic wireless variant to be unlocked, are there any 3rd party programs that can unlock it? I looked into sunshine but the exploit checker claims mine cant be unlocked via their method so that options out.

Inverted. said:
Motorola doesnt authorize the republic wireless variant to be unlocked, are there any 3rd party programs that can unlock it? I looked into sunshine but the exploit checker claims mine cant be unlocked via their method so that options out.
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I have a 2013 Moto X v1 (rooted via RockMyMoto) running 4.2.2 jellybean. I've recently been looking into SunShine since RW should be releasing lollipop for the 2013 soon. My SunShine compatibility test showed "Compatible!"
Do you have a v2 Moto X?

xilduq said:
I have a 2013 Moto X v1 (rooted via RockMyMoto) running 4.2.2 jellybean. I've recently been looking into SunShine since RW should be releasing lollipop for the 2013 soon. My SunShine compatibility test showed "Compatible!"
Do you have a v2 Moto X?
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This is the v2 forums! Not the 2013.
There is no other way to unlock it, if sunshine failed, sorry nothing you can do.
Sent from my XT1095

AGISCI said:
This is the v2 forums!
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My mistake. I see that now. Since I followed a google search link, I overlooked this forum's specificity.

XT1060 Bootloader unlock

Hi just wondering if i buy this phone http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Blac...41?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item280344d421
Will i be able to unlock the bootloader? assuming it's not verizon if coming from hong kong or would i be wrong? cheers

I'm guessing the "unlocked" in the title means SIM unlocked. If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.

imnuts said:
I'm guessing the "unlocked" in the title means SIM unlocked. If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
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Would this still hold true given that this is coming from Asia? or are all xt1060s locked aside from the dev model?

As far as I'm aware, yes.
Sent from my Nexus 6

imnuts said:
If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
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Do you mean that Sunshine might eventually work to unlock the bootloader on XT1060s? or is it working right now?
(I know I can check by just running the app on the phone, but I don't own the phone yet either, was considering buying one)
EDIT: just did a little more research, seems like sunshine will work for XT1060s if it hasn't been upgraded to 4.4.4 . If anyone knows otherwise, please correct me.

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Would this still hold true given that this is coming from Asia? or are all xt1060s locked aside from the dev model?
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I'm not aware of the XT1060 being sold by any other carriers that Verizon in the USA. All Verizon XT1060's are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) due to FCC 700mhz C-Block rules.
Moto only gave out the Bootloader unlock code for the Developer Edition XT1060. Sunshine will work so long as the phone is on 4.4.2 and has NEVER been flashed with 4.4.4 or higher.

KidJoe said:
I'm not aware of the XT1060 being sold by any other carriers that Verizon in the USA. All Verizon XT1060's are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) due to FCC 700mhz C-Block rules.
Moto only gave out the Bootloader unlock code for the Developer Edition XT1060. Sunshine will work so long as the phone is on 4.4.2 and has NEVER been flashed with 4.4.4 or higher.
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i used the motorola unlock your bootloader site to unlock a xt1060 4.2.2 non dev edition, was this customary or did i just get lucky?
kidjoe every thing i know about the 2013 x ive pretty much learned from you, thanks!

hugh a said:
i used the motorola unlock your bootloader site to unlock a xt1060 4.2.2 non dev edition, was this customary or did i just get lucky?
kidjoe every thing i know about the 2013 x ive pretty much learned from you, thanks!
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It was either just lucky, or you used the China Middle Seller/Middle man that was available long ago and not Moto's web site.

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It was either just lucky, or you used the China Middle Seller/Middle man that was available long ago and not Moto's web site.
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i for sure used the motorola website on non dev deition 1060, now i try every x that passes through, some times i think that site may have flaws

upgrading to official marshmallow 6.0

i have an unlocked verizon moto x 2nd generation. can i get official motorola 6.0 update? is there any way?
thanks
im from pakistan so i wont be using verizon.

Which model do you have?
AT&T - XT1097
T-Mobile - XT1095
Verizon - XT1096
Check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_%282nd_generation%29

donslade said:
Which model do you have?
AT&T - XT1097
T-Mobile - XT1095
Verizon - XT1096
Check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_%282nd_generation%29
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xt1096

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akholicc said:
xt1096
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Motorola and Verizon have stated that they will not update the XT1096 to MM or 6.x so there is no "official" Marshmallow firmware from Motorola for this phone.
You can find an 99% stock MM ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1096-verizon-flashable-stock-rom-t3327345. Please read the full thread and ask questions there about this ROM. Some people - including me - are using it as their daily driver with little to no issues. This ROM has all the Motorola apps (Voice, Display, etc.) working as expected from a stock ROM.
Another option CM13. Read this thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/orig-development/rom-official-cm-13-0-nightly-releases-t3256580/post65781867#post65781867. CM13 works on the XT1096 and other CM13-based ROMs should work but you will need to verify by reading their threads. Please be sure to read the full thread and ask questions there about CM13 or in the other threads related to other ROMs.
This is assuming that you are on the Verizon network and want to keep CDMA functionality. If you are using this phone on a GSM network and do not care to keep the CDMA access then you might want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-xt1097-to-xt1095-nextel-t2972693
All of the options above require that you have an unlocked bootloader. If your bootloader is locked please go here to learn about unlocking it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/motorola-unlocking-verizon-moto-x-2014-t3291104
Please read and learn as much as you can. Most - if not all - of your questions will be answered by reading through the threads listed.

XT1085
Hello everyone,
I'm currently using the moto X 2nd generation bought in china (XT1085) running android 5.0.2.
I would like to get rid of the retcn version of the system because I don't speak chinese for a retEU or retUS and install android 6 MM. Is it possible?
My phone is rooted and TWRP recovery installed
I tried to install this version : Version 6, because one guy wrote on the topic that it worked on TX1085 but it failed for me, and my phone stayed on the Motorola launching screen.
So now I'm back with the factory setup and would like to now how to install android 6.0?
Thanks

Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972693

kboya said:
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972693
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Yep I saw it but i've some trouble to download the file from the thread so i'm looking for an other solution
Edit : Ok I found a better link in the comments and did it, seems to work for now

How to unlock Motorola Moto X 2nd gen. bootloader?
Hey Guys! I have a locked motorola moto x 2nd gen, verizon variant (xt1096). I want to unlock its bootloader for upgrading to marshmallow (6.0), tried to unlock through Motorola's website, but my phone's not eligible for it. So is there any other way to unlock bootloader.