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I updated my Moto X to kit kat yesterday and now my hotword detection doesn't work on the home screen or within Google now. I have the nexus 5 home launcher installed and fear it could be part of the issue, but it worked fine in jelly bean so I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Anyone else having this issue?
wilmah1 said:
I updated my Moto X to kit kat yesterday and now my hotword detection doesn't work on the home screen or within Google now. I have the nexus 5 home launcher installed and fear it could be part of the issue, but it worked fine in jelly bean so I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I can safely say it's not the new home launcher. I've been running that for awhile now and both the motorola detection and the google detection work fine (i.e., I can say "okay google now" at any time, or say "okay google" when the device is already woken.)
I haven't done the kit kat upgrade though
wilmah1 said:
I updated my Moto X to kit kat yesterday and now my hotword detection doesn't work on the home screen or within Google now. I have the nexus 5 home launcher installed and fear it could be part of the issue, but it worked fine in jelly bean so I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Anyone else having this issue?
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If it isn't, language needs to be set to US english.
sarshadd said:
If it isn't, language needs to be set to US english.
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It is set to English and I tried changing it and changing back and had no luck.
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It is set to English and I tried changing it and changing back and had no luck.
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I'm having the same problem.
"Ok google now" works as it should.
But when in google now, saying "ok google" does not activate voice control...very strange.
Anyone else having this issue?
(muse)ic said:
I'm having the same problem.
"Ok google now" works as it should.
But when in google now, saying "ok google" does not activate voice control...very strange.
Anyone else having this issue?
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It seems that Moto may have deactivated this on purpose to prevent it from interfering with the Touchless Control feature.
Same thing, it was working shortly after the update I believe.
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Dark9781 said:
It seems that Moto may have deactivated this on purpose to prevent it from interfering with the Touchless Control feature.
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seems unlikely. i can't seem to get mine to work either, even though Google Now settings say to listen for "Google".
Select the Auto-Update tab from the top and choose one of the auto-update options (we recommend leaving it on “over WiFi-only”). After that, scoot over to the All tab and find English (US). You’ll notice it already says “pre-installed”. Don’t listen to it. Select English (US) anyway. From there, jump to the Installed tab and press “English (US)” where you’ll be asked to download the latest version (version 28 at the time of writing). Hit “Download” and the updated version will be downloaded and installed.
After it’s finished downloading, press the home button where you’ll notice “Ok Google” will now be displayed inside the Google Search widget. Simply speak that phrase whenever you’re on your homescreen to perform a Google Search or voice actions. That’s it. Was relatively painless, ri
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Something is definitely broken. The image I included shows Android 4.4 and Android 4.2.2 differences. 4.4 is missing the "Ok" and maybe that is why it doesn't work? It worked fine before and now doesn't. English is my set language and that doesn't fix the problem.
just my 2 cents.
Orsini said:
You guys need to download English language even they said is pretty installed and gonna work.
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this doesn't even sound like english. can you explain?
640k said:
this doesn't even sound like english. can you explain?
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Select the Auto-Update tab from the top and choose one of the auto-update options (we recommend leaving it on “over WiFi-only”). After that, scoot over to the All tab and find English (US). You’ll notice it already says “pre-installed”. Don’t listen to it. Select English (US) anyway. From there, jump to the Installed tab and press “English (US)” where you’ll be asked to download the latest version (version 28 at the time of writing). Hit “Download” and the updated version will be downloaded and installed.
After it’s finished downloading, press the home button where you’ll notice “Ok Google” will now be displayed inside the Google Search widget. Simply speak that phrase whenever you’re on your homescreen to perform a Google Search or voice actions. That’s it. Was relatively painless, right?
Orsini, I just checked and I'm already updated to 28.
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KidCuda said:
Orsini, I just checked and I'm already updated to 28.
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KidCuda,
Orsini has left out some steps. Where is his selecting Auto-Update tab (play store?)? I don't see anything that says "pre-installed". Where are you even looking for 28? I would like to confirm what number I am on.
Thanks.
Even you had 28 Download English language.
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Orsini said:
Even you had 28 Download English language.
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What location are you seeing this in? Can you please give the missing steps to your other post?
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What location are you seeing this in? Can you please give the missing steps to your other post?
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http://phandroid.com/2013/11/14/how-to-install-google-experience-launcher-with-ok-google-command/
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KidCuda,
Orsini has left out some steps. Where is his selecting Auto-Update tab (play store?)? I don't see anything that says "pre-installed". Where are you even looking for 28? I would like to confirm what number I am on.
Thanks.
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He's talking about in Google Now, go to the "Manage downloaded languages" section in settings. I tried this (on my Moto X, even though I'm typing this on a Nexus 7) and it didn't work.
My Nexus 7 just updated to KitKat tonight and doesn't have this problem.
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Okay. I was able to update to version 28 and it still does NOT work, but something changed in the settings. See attachment.
I uninstalled the english language pack and reinstalled it to no avail...
There are several commands built straight into Moto Voice. "What's up" reads notifications, for example. 9/10 times it will work great.
Then there is the 1/10 where I'll say "What's up".. and Moto Voice will kick to Google Now. I think maybe that it misheard me.. but then I look at the search and it's exactly "What's up". Except in Google Now.. that brings up a google search of local establishments thinking I'm asking what "up" is and doesn't read my notifications.
Anyone else experience this? Why is this happening?
[edit] Crappy video of the problem, sorry the poor quality and cams-manship.. took a while to actually get it to happen then it happened multiple times in a minute.
http://youtu.be/MlieuryHouo
Every single thing I say gets kicked to Google Now. I don't get it... so far this "touchless control" is just a slower way to access Google Now.
Some commands use Google Now legitimately. I'm not referring to those. I mean the commands that are supposed to be handled by Motorola. What's up, Good Night, etc.
Video of the problem added to OP: http://youtu.be/MlieuryHouo
Sorry the poor quality and cams-manship.. took a while to actually get it to happen then it happened multiple times in a minute. Give it a sec if it is still processing
Having the same problem, turning off Google now doesn't help either
Yeah, that happened to me occasionally. I wonder if the option to go to Google now from the lock screen needs to be disabled from the Moto app
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0.0 said:
Yeah, that happened to me occasionally. I wonder if the option to go to Google now from the lock screen needs to be disabled from the Moto app
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I have had it happen when the phone was unlocked too, so I don't think that would be a viable workaround.
Any ideas why this may be happening when the command is obviously recognized properly?
Seems like a glitch. A reboot fixes this temporarily.
I initially had the problem of the "What's Up" and other specific commands not getting processed correctly but I redid the setup for the voice launch phrase and it worked after that.
LexusBrian400 said:
Every single thing I say gets kicked to Google Now. I don't get it... so far this "touchless control" is just a slower way to access Google Now.
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For what it's worth, you can use tasker and an xposed module to force the phone to jump straight to Google Now search. You need the module "OkGoogleNowTriggerIntent" and info from this reddit thread.
ppdd said:
For what it's worth, you can use tasker and an xposed module to force the phone to jump straight to Google Now search. You need the module "OkGoogleNowTriggerIntent" and info from this reddit thread.
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Appreciate it, but no root on Verizon Moto X. Yet..
I ran into a similar issue except it was for the command goodnight and speak to me. I found out that nearly all my moto apps needed an update, but google play wasn't reporting them needing one in the my apps section of the play store. Easiest way to find out is to go to Motorola's play store developer page on your phone, click on each app that is marked as installed and see if there is an update pending. If there is, update it.
Additionally after I updated everything I got a prompt for a firmware update, install that too, restart and everything should be working correctly. Hopefully this helps!
Still have the same issue after the recent Moto Voice update
DonMarek said:
I ran into a similar issue except it was for the command goodnight and speak to me. I found out that nearly all my moto apps needed an update, but google play wasn't reporting them needing one in the my apps section of the play store. Easiest way to find out is to go to Motorola's play store developer page on your phone, click on each app that is marked as installed and see if there is an update pending. If there is, update it.
Additionally after I updated everything I got a prompt for a firmware update, install that too, restart and everything should be working correctly. Hopefully this helps!
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THIS PEOPLE!!!! The apps need to be updated. When I got my phone, a solid amount of the commands just kicked it to Google Now. In order to fix it, go into the Play Store and do 2 searches: "Moto" and "Motorola" and install all of the apps that need an update. The reason you need to do 2 searches is because a few of the apps don't show up in the "Moto" search, and some of them don't show up in "Motorola" so you need to do 2 searches to update all the apps.
After that all the commands will work fine. I have not had it kick a "Talk to me", "Good Night", "Good Morning", or "What's Up?" to Google Now ever since updating. Give it a try and it might fix your problems.
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THIS PEOPLE!!!! The apps need to be updated. When I got my phone, a solid amount of the commands just kicked it to Google Now. In order to fix it, go into the Play Store and do 2 searches: "Moto" and "Motorola" and install all of the apps that need an update. The reason you need to do 2 searches is because a few of the apps don't show up in the "Moto" search, and some of them don't show up in "Motorola" so you need to do 2 searches to update all the apps.
After that all the commands will work fine. I have not had it kick a "Talk to me", "Good Night", "Good Morning", or "What's Up?" to Google Now ever since updating. Give it a try and it might fix your problems.
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Like I said in the previous post, this did not resolve the issue for me. However I don't recall receiving a firmware update.. but the apps in the Play Store are all up to date.
So from what i can tell phones using DSP chips will be able to use ok google now from stock android. Our Moto X's do use that for the Motorola assist features. Does this mean that android lollipop could help go around moto assist? I don't like the delays that Moto assist comes with, and getting to use Google now through stock would be amazing. They only mention that Nexus 6 and 9, will be able to use it, but i don't see why our phone wouldn't be able to.
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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Yes, assist can be disabled. The problem is because assist and the files for it are installed, it disables one from saying "ok, google" and letting google now take over. Assist needs to be on if you want to do voice related things. Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found a way to allow google now voice commands to work with assist on or off
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If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
MaKTaiL said:
If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
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I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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I know that on the 2013 X this did not work. There is an internal, hidden config flag in Google Search that lists the devices on which hotword detection is permanently disabled -- meaning that nothing you did to to moto touchless controls would help.
That being said, there is an app out there, UnleashTheGoogle, that will un-hide all of the hidden settings in Google Search and then you can just remove your phone from the blacklist (if the '14 X is in there)
So after the recent Moto Voice update, i can't get the Google Now hot word Detection to work at all. Going into Google Settings to try to train it to listen to me, it won't activate the mic at all to listen to me, completely refuses too. Plus, to top it off, Moto Voice now says "Opening Google" Whenever it is too retarded to be able to do what i want it to with my voice, which is ridiculous. I Force closed Moto Voice, and the google now search bar had the mic showing that it was ready for voice. (The filled in one.) but did not respond to Ok Google, and by the time i went to train it, Moto Voice had restarted. I might try freezing Moto Voice with Titanium and seeing if i can get google now to work then. All in all, this is disappointing as it stands.
Ok! So Freezing the Moto Voice app did it for me. (That or yelling ok google at my phone for 5-10 minutes in the training voice part of Google Now Voice Settings.) Regardless i can activate Ok Google again from any screen. Though, my Google Now Settings includes the check box for google searching from the Lock Screen, it doesn't seem to work. That might come with Lollipop proper... -crosses fingers.
Edit: It will allow it to Google Search from lockscreen , But not with sound off... that is the feature that might come with Lollipop.
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
Do not think of the device as Moto X think of the device as nexus...aka PURE AND COMPLETE stock android. So anything you love about the MOto X odd of you finding it on N6 (unless n6) has it own version, you wont see it.
Hope that answer your question
Aw that's a bummer. There are some Moto apps on the playstore. Hopefully they are usable on the Nexus 6.
msal said:
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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Other than the ability to set a custom listing phrase, what are the "advanced listening features"?
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
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In regards to the texting thing. I hope they fix it to use GV number with hangouts. With the nexus 5 if I use voice commands to send a text it uses my carrier number. Same with virtually every other app that sends stuff auto via text messages,
ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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This is already available with the Google Launcher on my S4 (so long as the phone is charging). Time will tell if this is available on the Nexus 6 from idle when it's not charging.
Is there a possibility of stopping Moto Voice to say "opening google.." every time it passes the command to ggl search?
It didn't do that before i updated moto voice. And is really annoying
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It is. I'm also finding out that the "what's up?" command is very hit or miss. Sometimes it reads my notifications and others it just looks up "what's up" in Google.
I am also looking for the answer for shutting down "opening google"...can someone tell us how, please! Thanks!
This is from the update right? Id uninstall the updates. Revert back to the old version
But the old version is really bugy and missing many commands like "good morning" "talk to me" "good night" etc.
All in all the update is very good! Only "opening google.." disturbs me
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It is. I'm also finding out that the "what's up?" command is very hit or miss. Sometimes it reads my notifications and others it just looks up "what's up" in Google.
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The command is supposed to be "what's new?" I think. The video tutorial says what's up, but the command list says what's new.
GRS10 said:
The command is supposed to be "what's new?" I think. The video tutorial says what's up, but the command list says what's new.
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I think it depends on your system language.
For me in English(US) it is "what's up?" and in German it is "Was gibt's Neues?"
So i would say "What's new?" Is for English(UK) may be..
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I hate this so much.
OliveJeans said:
But the old version is really bugy and missing many commands like "good morning" "talk to me" "good night" etc.
All in all the update is very good! Only "opening google.." disturbs me
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None of those commands work for me. Good morning, good night, talk to me, they all just come back with opening Google followed by a Google search result in those words.
Hating that opening Google part.
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Im also hating this "opening google" makes me feel like it took away what made this phone special. Its like now the only thing special is i can wake it up with my voice when the screen is off
Well, Google is grabbing just about everything that Motorola developed and adding it into lollipop.
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Well, Google is grabbing just about everything that Motorola developed and adding it into lollipop.
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Gotta take advantage of all that intellectual property while you still can.
I get it and they probably developed it all while owning Motorola, but it will likely unlock "me" to buying outside of Motorola again if they can simulate active notifications, assist, and voice well enough. First time I've bought the same manufacturer back to back in the past four years and 8-10 phones.
gotzaDroid said:
Gotta take advantage of all that intellectual property while you still can.
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Google keeps the intellectual property. That's all they wanted with the purchase, and they aren't giving it up with the sale.
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opening google
Also hate "Opening Google" can't wait for lilipop to enable okay Google natively on my Moto X from standby (off) mode.
umdkevin said:
Also hate "Opening Google" can't wait for lilipop to enable okay Google natively on my Moto X from standby (off) mode.
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If i have to wait that, i will sell my moto x.
I bought this for the voice command instead of my beautifull Nexus 5. I paied 499€ to have a nexus 5.2 with wood back? No thank's.
Opening google !!!
Yeah, this last update to Voice addressed the latency issues, but created a whole new set of problems as "set alarm" now just gets passed to Google instead of actually setting the alarm. If I have to actually click "Set Alarm" on the resulting Google search page, it kind of defeats the point of having it be a voice command. I'm hoping that their "solution" for the high latency of the original version wasn't simply punting and handing everything over to Google.
Motorola needs to get a third rev of this out, hopefully without regression bugs. And from their forums, it looks like they're on the case.
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Yeah, this last update to Voice addressed the latency issues, but created a whole new set of problems as "set alarm" now just gets passed to Google instead of actually setting the alarm. If I have to actually click "Set Alarm" on the resulting Google search page, it kind of defeats the point of having it be a voice command. I'm hoping that their "solution" for the high latency of the original version wasn't simply punting and handing everything over to Google.
Motorola needs to get a third rev of this out, hopefully without regression bugs. And from their forums, it looks like they're on the case.
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According to a bunch of android tech blogs, it seems the issue with setting alarms and timers is with Google's search update. Though, it would be nice if moto voice could set alarms and timers went without Google now's help.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/10/google-search-experiencing-timer-alarm-setting-problems.html
I used to gave problems with "good morning" & "Good night" but figured out the trick recently
Do not give a break between good and morning/night. Say it in one word like goodmorning or goodnight and it works everytime(atleast for me)
and for time being, we can avoid the opening google sound by creating a tasker profile which will set the media volume to 0 for 2 seconds whenever google search is opening