[Q] How to identify variant? And OTA question - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just picked up a Nexus 6 secondhand, and was wondering if there is a way to determine whether this is a Google Play device or a carrier variant. It doesn't have any obvious branding so I'm sure it's not an AT&T variant.
Also, let's say it is the T-Mobile variant. Will I need to run a T-Mobile SIM card to get the OTA updates? Or will I still be able to get them with an AT&T SIM card?

chp said:
I just picked up a Nexus 6 secondhand, and was wondering if there is a way to determine whether this is a Google Play device or a carrier variant. It doesn't have any obvious branding so I'm sure it's not an AT&T variant.
Also, let's say it is the T-Mobile variant. Will I need to run a T-Mobile SIM card to get the OTA updates? Or will I still be able to get them with an AT&T SIM card?
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they are all exactly the same device. you can buy from sprint, but use on tmpbile if you want. besides for att som locking it until fully paid off, they are all identicle.

@chp,
OTA updates come directly from Google. If there are different carrier variants, you will get the one related to your SIM.

There's only two variants.
The North America 'variant', XT1103, and the international 'variant', the XT1100. This tells us that finally carrier branding is only on the outside and/or with a bit of carrier bloat in the software. No longer affects the hardware.
thank WNRussell next time you see him about. . . . .

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Will Sprint Note 5 work on AT&T?

May be a really dumb question.
Looking to get a Note 5 on AT&T but I need it rooted. I understand only Sprint and T-Mobile are rootable. Right now I have a unlocked Tmobile S6 Edge working on AT&T and am curious if a Note 5 from Sprint will also work.
I'm obviously buying the phone outright. I know it will work on Verizon too, but that also, to my understanding, can't be rooting.
Thanks in advance and sorry if it was a dumb question.
No for Sprint, yes for T-Mobile. Sprint runs their network on CDMA system, and AT&T runs their network on GSM. Even though the Sprint Version of the Note 5 technically has a sim card, its hardware is still based on a CDMA setup. The sprint version would not work. However, The T-Mobile version runs on a GSM Network, like AT&T. So providing that you are able to have Domestic SIM Unlock available to you, you would be able to put an AT&T Sim card in the phone and it would work.
I have the same question as you. I have a sprint note 5 and want to take it to at&t since I just got hired with them I get 50% off. I entered the serial number in on att website and its says it will work
actually i have read the new lte phones are dual radio whether they are gsm or cdma. out the box no it will not work on anything other than sprint. getting it unlocked may be a challenge. the sprint nexus 6 comes factory unlocked and is usable on ALL cdma AND gsm networks. now comes the tricky part even if u do have a unlocked phone. unlocked should work for all gsm like your needs. but u can not take a unlocked nexus from att and use it on sprint like you can the other way around. becuase of cdma networks activating off the esn and not the imei. or for that matter using a sprint phone on a verizon service, yes the phone is capable but cdma has to have the esn in the networks database for it to work. verizon and sprint control what devices can be activated since the activation is through the esn and not the sim card. in the old days the straight answer is no way. i would definitely look into it more before deciding on a answer.
its on the internet so it must be true! but seriously, i am not saying your answer is either yes or no, just saying its worth looking into. fwiw i would think its only a matter of time before the root is achieved on all of them.
http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Has anyone confirmed whether or not a Sprint Note 5 will or will not work on AT&T if it's unlocked?
If you get it unlocked for domestic, yes it will work.
Yes, you can get it unlocked for virtually any carrier. I'm using a Sprint Note 5 on AT&T right now. In fact I'm sending this reply on it. I had it software unlocked (Sprint's a real stickler with their unlocking policy, but even so it's still possible even through them. There are plenty of forums about it. Though there are certain bugs with using it that piss me off like not being able to send MMS while connected to wifi, but I get my full carrier speed. I tested it side by side with an AT&T iphone 6s. Note 5 won massively on the upload time.
I'm helping!
Where did you get it Unlocked!? Please help

Tmobile Note 8 work on Sprint?

Someone Local to me is selling a note 8. It's supposed to be unlocked. Will it work on Sprint or no?
powerstroke said:
Someone Local to me is selling a note 8. It's supposed to be unlocked. Will it work on Sprint or no?
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Before I'd buy,I'd visit T-Mobile with the seller & phone in-hand,to ensure the phone is free & clear of any financial obligations.
Otherwise,you risk the possibility of it being blacklisted if any remaining balances are unpaid.
Not sure about compatibility,but,if the T-Mobile S8+ is any indication,it's only compatible with LTE,probably won't get voice/calls:
https://willmyphonework.net/
Regardless,with it being a new phone,you're in uncharted territory,no one can know for sure at this point,less a visit to Sprint & the mentioned visit to T-Mobile.
powerstroke said:
Someone Local to me is selling a note 8. It's supposed to be unlocked. Will it work on Sprint or no?
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Unfortunately, probably not. Sprint is very strict with the phones it allows under it's BYOD program, it'll only allow activation of Sprint and Unlocked models. It knows when phones are carrier versions as Samsung provides Sprint with the IMEIs of the Sprint and Unlocked models.
Sprint is the only major carrier that still uses a database whitelist for phones that can be activated on their network. Bit of a **** policy, but there's not much you can do about it.
Source: Just tried the same thing with my T-Mobile S8+. Even when I flashed the unlocked firmware on it(something you'd need to do anyway to enable the CDMA radio on the Note8, T-Mobile firmware has it disabled), still wouldn't work. Found out it was because of Sprint's stupid policy.
Just wanted to chime in on this in the hopes that no one wastes their time and money trying to activate AT&T/T-Mobile branded Note 8's with Sprint.
Flashed my AT&T device with unlocked firmware to enable CDMA features (MEID HEX/DEC)
Bought a Sprint BYOD SIM
Gave Sprint technicians device information in an attempt to add it to their inventory (HEC/DEX)
They kept getting random incompatibility errors, kind of silly given all US Note 8's have identical hardware.
Case closed, looking for a Sprint or Samsung official unlocked device now..

Is anyone using an AT&T branded Note 8 on Sprint?

I've been through hell and high water trying to get this phone to function on Sprint but the guys at the local corporate store and technical team (via phone support) are telling me it cannot be done. Is anyone in the same predicament as me or has a functioning AT&T Note 8 activated on the Sprint network? I'm using a BYOD SIM and have also flashed my device with N950U1 unlocked firmware.
As AT&T is a GSM network and Sprint is CDMA, I don't think this is possible...
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Sorry, I guess times have changed. It seems possible now, once the Note8 is unlocked from AT&T.
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gc86 said:
I've been through hell and high water trying to get this phone to function on Sprint but the guys at the local corporate store and technical team (via phone support) are telling me it cannot be done. Is anyone in the same predicament as me or has a functioning AT&T Note 8 activated on the Sprint network? I'm using a BYOD SIM and have also flashed my device with N950U1 unlocked firmware.
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Carrier switching is very much possible with the US variants, so if you flash the Sprint firmware (N950U, not U1) and the Sprint CSC as well, in theory it should work just fine. If there are IMEI complications about not being in 'Sprints system', that's another issue, but hardware wise it should be 100% compatible with Sprint's network.
murtaza02 said:
Carrier switching is very much possible with the US variants, so if you flash the Sprint firmware (N950U, not U1) and the Sprint CSC as well, in theory it should work just fine. If there are IMEI complications about not being in 'Sprints system', that's another issue, but hardware wise it should be 100% compatible with Sprint's network.
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This is precisely what I kept telling the guys at the store, that all of the USDM Note 8's are hardware identical. My only theory at this point is that the device isn't Sprint BYOD eligible because it has an outstanding balance on the AT&T side and therefore isn't "officially unlocked".

Urgent Q: Is there a difference between the Sprint and Unlocked variants?

I have about 40 minutes left to purchase the Note 8 on samsung.com before their trade in promo expires.
I'd like to know whether there's any actual difference between the two versions. I know that the unlocked version will not have any carrier bloatware, and apparently, it will receive updates slower.
I am concerned about wifi calling/calling plus and volte. Would I only have access to that on the Sprint variant?
What about international use? Would I be able to travel around the world and pop in a local SIM if I have the Sprint version? Or would the phone be locked for international use?
I intend on buying from samsung.com, so I would expect that if I were to get the Sprint version, that Sprint unlock the device after 50 days on their network.
I do know that resale value should be higher on the unlocked version, but I figure I would get the device unlocked by Sprint before I would sell it.
Anything else I should know about?
Is there something called an "ISIM" and would I need to get that for the unlocked version?
Thanks!
I have about 40 minutes left to purchase the Note 8 on samsung.com before their trade in promo expires.
I'd like to know whether there's any actual difference between the two versions. I know that the unlocked version will not have any carrier bloatware, and apparently, it will receive updates slower.
Updates are on different schedules. prolly a bit slower, but you are not gonna have all the extra bloatware
I am concerned about wifi calling/calling plus and volte. Would I only have access to that on the Sprint variant?
I have wifi calling and volte with some adjustments to the settings on the unlocked version
What about international use? Would I be able to travel around the world and pop in a local SIM if I have the Sprint version? Or would the phone be locked for international use?
Sprint variant would be locked to sprint only until they unlock it for you. Which prolly requires it being paid off or after a time limit.
I intend on buying from samsung.com, so I would expect that if I were to get the Sprint version, that Sprint unlock the device after 50 days on their network.
I do know that resale value should be higher on the unlocked version, but I figure I would get the device unlocked by Sprint before I would sell it.
Anything else I should know about?
Is there something called an "ISIM" and would I need to get that for the unlocked version?
Thanks!
tired to answer the best i could for u.

CDMA unlock Verizon Note 8 for Sprint?

Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
f2000sa said:
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Verizon phones are all carrier unlocked. I'm using a Verizon Note 8 on T-Mobile right now.
Couple questions:
1. Have you double checked to make sure the IMEI is clean and clear? If its blacklisted on Verizon, it won't work on any US carrier.
2. Do you have a nano SIM from Sprint that's already activated?
3. Have you tried flashing either the unlocked firmwareor the Sprint firmware on it?
Thanks, Mr. Orange645
The phone was bought brand new a month ago from Best Buy , and used on Verizon for a month. Phone paid off and no contract. IMEI should be clean. I did a check on Ting with the IMEI , and it can be used for GSM.
I have two nano sims from Sprint, both activated and un-activated. The problem is that Sprint can not add the IMEI to their system. I called Samsung and gave the IMEI, and was told that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. I wonder whether there is way to do CDMA unlocking.
I did not try to flash unlocked ROM. I think that IMEI on sprint network is the first step.
So you have a nano SIM that's already activated with Sprint? It's in a Sprint phone right now and has service?
If So, put the activated SIM in your Note 8 and see if you have service.
Sprint shouldn't have to activate your phone, just the Sim. That's how you can buy the Unlocked version from Samsung.com and stick your Sprint SIM in it and have service.
Sprint uses CDMA, and have to add the IMEI to their system to make it work. Also tried the activated sim, with no luck.
There is no "CDMA unlocking," it's either carrier unlocked or it's not. And ALL Verizon LTE Devices are Carrier unlocked.
f2000sa said:
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Have you tried simply factory resetting the device first and then booting up for the first time with the activated Sprint sim in.
Maybe try flashing Sprint firmware?
IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
Did Sprint not provide some sort of reason/explanation as to why they are unable to add the IMEI? If they can't do it, surely they can tell you why.
CDMA networks are finicky -- Sprint's in particular -- when it comes to bringing over other carrier devices (even ones with compatible hardware). Some good info in here:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhon...y-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
f2000sa said:
IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
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I believe someone is giving you false information. You should be able to place an activated SIM card into the phone and start using it. That's how the unlocked Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL, Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+, and Note 8 all work. You buy them unlocked and use them on whichever carrier you want, including Sprint. That's how my Nexus 6 worked on Verizon, before I switched to T-Mobile. Verizon also uses CDMA, and they didn't have to add any IMEI into their system. You just put the activated SIM into the phone.
I could take a Verizon SIM and put it into my T-Mobile S8+ right now, and it would activate and get service.
But to answer your original question again, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CDMA UNLOCKING. The phone is either carrier unlocked, or its not. And the Verizon Note 8 is 100% carrier unlocked.
I beginning to suspect you bought a Note 8 with a bad IMEI, if you got it used.
EDIT: I MAY BE WRONG (don't tell my wife, she never hears me say that)
After doing some research on Reddit, it looks like others ran into the same issue as you. The unlocked version and the Sprint version will work, but none of the other carrier Note 8s are eligible for BYOD. Which is stupid, since they are all exactly the same hardware.
I'd try this:
Use ODIN to flash either the Unlocked 950U1 firmware, or the Sprint 950U firmware. Then place the Sprint SIM card in the phone to see if it activates upon start up. If it doesn't then you may be hosed. If that's the case, sign up for T-Mobile. LOL.
Thanks all for the useful information and help. The error they encountered is that they could not load the ESN to the Sprint PLBL database. They got error like incompatible, or unsupported device etc.
Sprint will not add other carries phone to their system. If IMEI is from Verizon it will never work with active or inactive SIM. Only way if it was factory unlocked phone bought from Samsung.
Did anyone find a solution to this? Moved to Sprint BYOD two days ago with my Verizon note8 and it won't work. The phone keeps asking for a Verizon since. I am at second Sprint repair center as I type this. Please tell me it can be fixed. Thanks.
I am in the same boat, Paid off my wife's Iphone7+ and my Note 8 with Verizon and then tried to BYOD with sprint and they are unable to activate. Verizon informed me that their devices are 100% not locked and Sprint has no clue.
You could try other carriers like straightalk or tmobile maybe even metro pcs but it will not work with sprint. They are a pain and don't allow other carrier phones on their network.
I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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OriyaGuru said:
I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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you need to enter sprints apn bro then you will have 4G.
I have the reverse issue. I have the opportunity to get a good deal on a Sprint Note 8, but I want to use it on Verizon. Assuming the device is not blacklisted, would there be any issue with this? Buying a sprint-branded phone and using it on Verizon's CDMA network? Are all the bands the same? I get 3 checkmarks on willmyphonework.com (but they didn't have the Note 8 yet, just the Note 7)

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