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Hi,i would like to install Rosie onto my G1, I believe its called rooting?
Ive read that Rosie is unstable and allot of things don't work on it, And then ive read other places it all works now. Is there any good full functional releases? I would love to have a flash player on this phone. Also where can i find good tutorials on how to install a different ROM such as Rosie?
Ive never done nothing like this , but i'm sure with a good tutorial i can do it.
Robert916 said:
Hi,i would like to install Rosie onto my G1, I believe its called rooting?
Ive read that Rosie is unstable and allot of things don't work on it, And then ive read other places it all works now. Is there any good full functional releases? I would love to have a flash player on this phone. Also where can i find good tutorials on how to install a different ROM such as Rosie?
Ive never done nothing like this , but i'm sure with a good tutorial i can do it.
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You need to follow the guides on here to root your phone, then you need to update to a special radio and the newest spl. These guides are readily available on here if you look: I found them, i'm sure you can too.
Rosie is a part of the ROM for the HTC Hero, HTC's latest phone with Android underpinning it. It is essentially an alternative 'home' for Android based on their Touchflo interface which they've been using in a lot of their Windows Mobile devices.
The Rosie UI has a lot of cool widgets, along with a nice multitouch browser with flash support - HOWEVER it is only Flash 9, and I found a lot of sites just don't work. there is also multitouch in the gallery in some of the releases I've tried, along with some much improved apps, such as the music player.
There are some MAJOR drawbacks at the moment though:
1: slowness - the ROM is not designed for the G1, and it is recommended that one uses App 2 SD to move applications to the SD to free up memory. This does help a bit, but lag is still an issue, particularly if you want to use lots of widgets. I personally don't like using Apps to SD, so I'm waiting for a slimmed-down ROM
2: SMS - a LOT of people (myself included) are suffering lost SMS messages in these ROMS. I have been forced to move back to The Dude's Cupcake ROM until a proper fix is found, since I'm a big texter and dont like the idea of losing messages and not knowing about it.
3: Bluetooth. As far as I'm aware there is no Hero ROM available yet with working bluetooth. This may or may not be important to you. I quite like having it to hand but I can live without it.
4: LED notifications. The LEDs with these ROMS are completely non-functioning. There was a semi-fix in one of the ROMS but this was removed and at the moment there is still no sign of a ROM with fully-functioning LEDs - annoying if you like to be able to glance at your phone and see if you have a message without turning the screen on.
These are the only MAJOR issues I've come across in my use of these ROMs, any other problems were fixable, or corrected with updates
Thank you for your reply, Maybe i will wait.
Are there any other roms you might recommend ?
I'm sure I'm setting myself up here, but what advantages are there to the custom ROMs at this point?
I'm running stock Froyo 2.2 (I did update the radio to 5.08, though), stock bootloader, and I'm not rooted. I'm on T-Mobile in the Tampa, FL area.
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, or just because most people that are posting on XDA are running custom ROMs, but I don't really have ANY of the problems most people on here have. My battery life is great, and the phone is overall VERY stable. I've tried other launchers, themes, etc., but I always prefer the stability of the stock setup over aesthetics.
The few issues I have had I can attribute to poorly written apps (force closes, battery vampires), or known hardware problems (mediocre 3G connectivity at times, etc).
I can understand if you have a phone like the MyTouch that never got any official updates after 1.6, or you want to try the next leaked software on your phone. But the Nexus One has had tons of official support and updates up to this point. Before Froyo was officially released, I found myself better off with stock recovery to load the latest, greatest Froyo build.
Sorry for the rambling, but I would greatly appreciate any education I can get on what's packed into these custom ROMs that everyone gets so excited about.
THANKS!
Don't really feel like typing all the reasons haha, but there's a lot of stuff to enjoy with custom roms. If stock works for you that's great. I don't know anyone that's ever gone custom and wanted to go back but I'm sure it happens. End of the day it's whatever makes you happy. A lot of us want more than just a great experience, we want to see what's possible. You can view the changelog for the latest Cyanogenmod(most popular custom ROM) build here http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/froyo/CHANGELOG.mkdn
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
2. Removing the stock apps from the phone that you don't use or want. Why have them sitting there taking up space and potentially resources for no reason? Sure they don't take up much in terms of storage space, but if you use a lot of apps, every little bit counts.
3. Undervolting and over/underclocking. Get that extra little performance boost, or cut it back. When I was UV'd to 800mV and UC'd to 806mhz, I noticed no performance difference or problems (note: I don't play 3d games on my phone) and my battery life was insane. 24 hours of normal use would put me to 65% give or take.
4. Relating to number one, more control over other things. I've ripped stock, but customized, apps from random ROMs and pushed them to my phone. Black Facebook & Twitter widgets (white ones are ugly), darkened (black & dark grey) stock messaging interface with white text, etc.
5. Trackball Alert Pro.
I'm sure that others can add more, but the above are the main reasons I rooted mine.
A tiny little thing called Apps2SD+, for example.
Multiple audio/video decoder support.
Lots of Linux binaries bundled.
Lots of modifications to stock software (contacts, browser) that increase their usefulness (for example, do you really like to type "about:debug" each time you want to change browser client after reboot?).
etc etc.
Thanks for all the great info.
The underclocking sounds interesting. I don't play any games on my phone, and extra battery life is always nice.
I'm not too interested in customizing the appearance too much. Coming from an iPhone, I'm pretty happy with the looks of the stock Froyo UI compared to that.
Again, thanks for the time you guys took to give me some information. I greatly appreciate it!
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Ryjabo said:
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
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5. Trackball Alert Pro.
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This was reason #1 and 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 for me, respectively
Track ball skip song.. Enough said.
If I install a custom ROM, when a new one comes out, do I have to install the ROM from the start and I loose my setings etc. or do I just update it?
Depends on the ROM maker. Most make their ROMs backwards-compatible, so you can upgrade. Going between different makers' ROMs you mostly need to wipe and start fresh (though there are apps that can back up and restore pretty much everything).
I am thinking to try Cyanogenmod ROM, bot I don't wan't to cofigurate all the things when a new ROM comes out.
So I am probably one of the few that is running a completely stock unrooted nook I was playing around with the new update today and downloaded a handful of the free apps. I have several questions:
1) For some reason my Fliq Notes icon disappeared, I can still use the app perfectly fine, but it's showing a gray standard b&n icon, any way to fix this? I tried "archiving" it and installing again, no dice.
2) What is archiving anyway? I'm completely new to Android if that matters. Is it like uninstalling something in windows?
3) In the apps screen, what is that right most "refresh" looking button? Whenever I click it it just spins forever and never stops.
Overall I must say that the nook runs much smoother than it did with Android 2.1. PDFs seem to render faster, the web browser pinch to zoom is smoother as well. Flash is great!
I run a stock unrooted nook, except when I run off an SD card.
I have a similar issue with fliq calendar's icon. I have a suspicion, after reading some reviews on other sites, that this may be a fliq issue.
I agree that the whole experience is a lot smoother with the update.
Hello. Well seems Google+ doesnt install to a G1... so anyone have a apk that would work for me to install it? Also my youtube for awhile has been messed up, I need to reinstall it, but dont have a apk or updated youtube apk for it if someone can point me in the right direction? Thanks. =)
(Over 2 years with my G1 and I have not had a desire to replace it yet, even tho I have higher end phones)
It doesn't? Please describe your problem in more detail, because I'm using it just fine, on the latest iteration of COS-DS.
Perhaps you need a more recent Android; if this is the case, having the apk would not help you much...
Same for me here, running G+ and YouTube, both installed from the market. Seems to me that these apps need a higher API-Level, i.e. Donut isn't supported.
Well I am still running my G1 on Enoms 1.6 build. Always worked best. So didnt change it. Granted Youtube.. Not sure WHAT happened. It just doesnt want to update the homescreen of it, getting like a parsing error on it. Thats why I am looking for that apk
As for G+ the market doesnt let me install it.
Love my G1 too much to replace it. G2 was a contender but that temp root thing turned me off.
Enom's roms were great, I liked them very much and I was using them until mid of last year. Unfortunately he stopped development and if you want to be up to date, you need to switch, and since Terry provided us with ezGingerbread, I switched to that. Performance / speed is comparable to Enom's roms and I am on the lastest Android version
Thats a great review. I may have to do that... Trick is, I worry.. I have over 100 apps installed heh. While I can download them to my PC. Just not sure what else would wipe. Or do you need to wipe for that upgrade?
Unfortunately yes, ... no chance to keep apps / data. Ok, TitaniumBackup may be an option, contacts and calander come from google, but it's still a bit of work to do.
In addition to that you would probably like to upgrade to the 1.33.0013d/2.22.28.25 combo to gain 14MB of available RAM(!), which will cause additional work and risks(?) ...
I'd have to say that as a user with over 150+ apps and no desire to trim the fat I'm very shortly back off to E-Xtreme and danger spl with 26I radio as nothing ever came close to being as good on my phone for me above 1.6 (Hell I'm even thinking of dropping back to Super D 1.9.3 with DarkStars theme if I can find it, that black google search box with the ghoshed white outer glow always was the sexiest thing ever lol) because if your a user from my experience with a load of apps and have a lot of home screens with shortcuts and widgets then Froyo and especially gingerbread just ain't for you plain and simple. I kill them all in minutes and I'm not exactly a beginner at this stuff, by no means an expert either but I know enough to know that me and gingerbread will never work and well for some of us thats just how it is.
Heh yea, same here. I love my G1 even tho its about 3 years old. 1.6 is fine for my everyday use. My HD2 tho.. just found the <3 Android I was looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652 (Along with WM 6.5)
But then back to the main issue at hand. I need the Youtube apk for the G1 =/ Would be nice to least be able to use that again heh.
see maybe i will met
No one knows how to redo Youtube or fix it? =/
Here's a link to the Youtube.apk file. It's version 2.1.6.
http://www.mediafire.com/?rpet4zusa17xucb
Hello people.
I recently bought an xperia z1. A very nice phone which works really well, except for a few things. Hence this topic.
I experience good battery life and quite fast loading of apps etc, but i notice that scrolling inside some apps goes stuttery and laggy. Something i didn't expect from a phone with this kinda hardware. Ecspecially phonebook, call log and gmail have problems with this, just like facebook for example.
Now the questions.
Is this a thing that will be fixed in a future firmware release? And if i install a custom rom using a something like doomkernel, will this issue be better?
It really bothers me somehow, and i don't mind unlocking the bootloader to fix this issue. But if i'm not sure that it will fix this stutter and lag, i think it might not be worth it getting problems etc with warranty.
Thanks in advance for answering
Yes, it can be improved. There is not fix on that and no one can said perfectly what is related too. I got some light laggy launcher but i live with that as it do more stuff than the stock one.
So, if you find an application laggy is not the phone, is the application it self which is badly coded and don't working correctly as it should.
I give you an example, I have Virtua Tennis purchased long time ago, V2.0, then updates after updates the game become laggy as hell, what that mean, that mean updates are ment to improve the application but if they are bad coded they will give you laggy issues, I reverted to v2.0.
At the end I don't think a Firmware will solve all this problems but you can be sure, you will get improvements installing Custom Roms or Custom Kernels which are ment to performing your device.
I don't saying it is worth to unlock bootloader, check also the applications which working in background, all the time they are the main reason for laggy phone as they run and eat ram and CPU.
You have to spend time flashing some latest FW and find the most stable combination.
eclyptos said:
Yes, it can be improved. There is not fix on that and no one can said perfectly what is related too. I got some light laggy launcher but i live with that as it do more stuff than the stock one.
So, if you find an application laggy is not the phone, is the application it self which is badly coded and don't working correctly as it should.
I give you an example, I have Virtua Tennis purchased long time ago, V2.0, then updates after updates the game become laggy as hell, what that mean, that mean updates are ment to improve the application but if they are bad coded they will give you laggy issues, I reverted to v2.0.
At the end I don't think a Firmware will solve all this problems but you can be sure, you will get improvements installing Custom Roms or Custom Kernels which are ment to performing your device.
I don't saying it is worth to unlock bootloader, check also the applications which working in background, all the time they are the main reason for laggy phone as they run and eat ram and CPU.
You have to spend time flashing some latest FW and find the most stable combination.
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Thanks for the quick answer!
And what you're saying about the background apps eating ram and cpu, i was thinking the same thing. I notice the lag is random, sometimes it goes quite fluent and sometimes its like i'm working with a phone that can't handle the os because of low specs. Really weird. Is there any tool that gives detailed insight into these background apps and stuff?
The main thing bothering me is the phone/phonebook/call log app which is delivered from sony itself. It's just text, and even that makes the scrolling in that app very stuttery. While i get updates for apps like album, and the scrolling inside that app goes smooth as silk. Just like scrolling within chrome (although it sometimes hangs for a very short moment).
And btw. rooting and deodexing without unlocking the bootloader, will that help too? I guess there's tools that make better performance too then. Or is working with unlocked bootloader better?
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Is there any tool that gives detailed insight into these background apps and stuff?
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Yes, there is an application which check what application wake up your phone or running when the phone is in sleep or even when it should be off but is not. At the moment I don't remember that application as I never used that one, but I know there is as it was mentioned many times for the same reason and battery drain.
saintgein said:
And btw. rooting and deodexing without unlocking the bootloader, will that help too? I guess there's tools that make better performance too then. Or is working with unlocked bootloader better?
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Root your phone will definitely help in many ways as many Applications to check your system need Root access, and also if you find an system app that cause your issues and uninstalling is necessary then Root is needed too. Deodexing can improve the customization as it meant for it but is not for performance, so is just up to you if you want to do it or not. There is no tool which will improve performance on your phone, my personal opinion they are all junk application, like the kind of System cleaner. Android is not Windows.
Rooting and Deodexing can be done without Unlocking Bootloader. Unlocking Bootloader is for flash Custom Kernels only. You still can flash Custom Roms based on Stock Kernels.
I'm really thinking of doing that right now. Also because of scrolling cache, which i think might be the cause for the issue i'm having trouble with.
Do you know something about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762732
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I'm really thinking of doing that right now. Also because of scrolling cache, which i think might be the cause for the issue i'm having trouble with.
Do you know something about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762732
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Not really but that kind of stuff it can not be done without Root, I guess.
Where did you find the information about it?
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Not really but that kind of stuff it can not be done without Root, I guess.
Where did you find the information about it?
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I noticed that custom roms like romaur and ihackers included that mod. Then i looked it up on google and found some articles which said that many apps have a bad way of handling that cache. I also don't have any experience with other firmwares than the unrooted 4.4.2. Hence my question.
Now i'm also thinking that sony puts alot of effort into optimizing apps for this purpose with new devices, maybe that's why i hear that the 4.2.2 experiences are much better than the newest 4.4.2. But that can also be a bit negative thinking, since i still got hope that future firmwares will make scrolling through call log/phonebook or gmail better.
Although on my old xperia s i noticed the same. With the 4.1 firmware installed, the facebook app scrolled alot better then the with the updates that came after it. Just like stock browser always been the best scroller. Unlike chrome and firefox for example. On my z1 chrome clearly is the best scroller btw, just hangs sometimes. But then it's on long facebook pages etc. Otherwise its very fluent.