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[Q] Setting up and rooting a new Verizon Moto X DE

Hello all,
Hopefully this is not considered a useless post and is deleted! I have previously owned the OG Droid and GNex, both rooted and have run custom ROMs so, I am not a COMPLETE noob, but I'm also not an expert.
In any event, I purchased a Verizon DE phone so I could easily unlock and root. I have yet to even activate it, so it is FRESH! It has come with 4.2.2, 139.10.53-ghost, which seems like the original image. I want to upgrade this ONLY to the point of still being able to run my standard tethering app (which I am not sure which 4.4 upgrade breaks this functionality), and root. I also want to be able to run custom ROMs if desired.
I am also confused by whether or not there is a potential downgrade "bricking" of the device. There are threads out there which seem like it can be done, (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358), and many other threads that say that regardless of being a DE, it cannot be downgraded. If someone can clarify this for me, that would be great.
Three other questions at this point. One, the thread referenced above discussed using TWRP or CWM for recovery. I have only used CWM in the past. Are there pros and cons to either one? Seems like most everyone uses TWRP for the Moto X.
Two, are there ROMs for the Moto X that have all of the rooted functionality of 4.4.2, with none of the drawbacks of stock, rooted 4.4.2? Would I be better off using one of those?
Finally, will I be able to prevent OTA notifications if I stay with stock, rooted, and upgrade only to certain point?
Sorry for all the questions, and yes, I have been searching and reading, but I have not found enough clear information to feel comfortable not asking directly.
Thank you all in ADVANCE!

There are currently 4 Moto or Stock ROMs for the Verizon Moto X XT1060
139.10.53 = Initial Shipping 4.2.2
139.15.1 = 4.2.2 w/camera update or 1st OTA
140.45.5 = 4.4 or 2nd OTA
164.55.2 = 4.4.2 or 3rd OTA.
The Developer Edition, once the bootloader is unlocked, can be rooted no matter what Moto ROM is on your phone.
Due to changes in parts that are included with 4.4.2, under certain circumstances when trying to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4 or lower, you could either brick your phone, or set it up to brick in the future when you take an upgrade. So it is suggested you just stick with what is on your phone once you get on 4.4.2. Besides, you wont need to downgrade to gain root once you unlock your bootloader.
If you haven't had 4.4.2 on your phone yet, you are perfectly welcome to upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.4, then downgrade to 4.2 w/camera update (4.2.2 with camera update is Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US aka VZW_XT1060_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-MX-17-57-X-1_CFC_1FF.xml). which is pretty much what the "Downgrading the bootloader" section of -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358 says.
Why worry about downgrading? Well, Locked bootloader users needed to downgrade to take advantage of an exploit in the older rom to gain root and disable write protection. This is not needed on the Dev Edition once the bootloader is unlocked.
As for custom roms, or 3rd party roms. Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash them.
As for tethering. If you stick on a Stock Moto ROM, On 4.2.2 I used the Wifi Tether for Root from the Play Store.
For 4.4 and 4.4.2 I Use the wifi_tether_v3_4-experimental1.apk from https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
change device profile to galaxy nexus (cdma/lte)
check box: wifi-driver reload
check box: enabled routing fix
If you have troubles, its also suggested to...
check box: wifi-driver reload 2
Doing this, I can set the SSID and WPA key. And it doesn't touch any system files or anything, so it is one less thing to get in the way of taking future OTA updates.
Oh, and the Dev Edition XT1060 and the retail/motomaker XT1060 use the same roms, radios, etc.
To root the dev edition see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738

KidJoe said:
If you haven't had 4.4.2 on your phone yet, you are perfectly welcome to upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.4, then downgrade to 4.2 w/camera update (4.2.2 with camera update is Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US aka VZW_XT1060_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-MX-17-57-X-1_CFC_1FF.xml). which is pretty much what the "Downgrading the bootloader" section of -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358 says.
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Thanks KidJoe! So I gather there would really not be a reason to downgrade a DE device anyway, since you can root it regardless of what stock ROM you are running. And since there are ways to wifi tether on 4.4.2, that is a non-issue.
I am still a bit confused regarding your quote above about the "upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.4, then downgrade to 4.2 w/camera update..." Do you have to follow that path to get to 4.2 w/camera update, or can you just flash that ROM (139.15.1) once unlocked?
I currently use FoxFi on my GNex (paid for it!) and was hoping to use on Moto X. That's really why I didn't want to upgrade too far. Not sure that it works on it though.
Thanks again!

amajamar said:
I am still a bit confused regarding your quote above about the "upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.4, then downgrade to 4.2 w/camera update..." Do you have to follow that path to get to 4.2 w/camera update, or can you just flash that ROM (139.15.1) once unlocked?
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No. Was just saying that if you never had 4.4.2 on your phone, wanted to upgrade to 4.4, and later wanted to go back to 4.2.2 w/camera, you could.
amajamar said:
I currently use FoxFi on my GNex (paid for it!) and was hoping to use on Moto X. That's really why I didn't want to upgrade too far. Not sure that it works on it though.
Thanks again!
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As far as I know, FoxFi still doesn't work on 4.4.2 on the X even when rooted. I don't recall if it works on 4.4. But I never used it.

If you have a DE there is absolutely no reason to downgrade. Ever. If you want to be able to tether here's the easiest way to do it.
Activate your phone.
Take all the updates.
Go to this site: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Follow those directions to a "T". Once that's done, download Xposed Framework, then download MotoTether.
The only time you'll need to worry about being rooted is if you delete bloatware and go to take the next OTA. You'll either need to reinstall all the apps you deleted manually or go to Motorola and request the factory image to reflash it.

The Tallest said:
If you have a DE there is absolutely no reason to downgrade. Ever. If you want to be able to tether here's the easiest way to do it.
Activate your phone.
Take all the updates.
Go to this site:
Follow those directions to a "T". Once that's done, download Xposed Framework, then download MotoTether.
The only time you'll need to worry about being rooted is if you delete bloatware and go to take the next OTA. You'll either need to reinstall all the apps you deleted manually or go to Motorola and request the factory image to reflash it.
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So I should take the updates BEFORE unlocking? I was assuming it was the other way around. OK. Regarding "bloatware", if you just "freeze" it, does that prevent future OTAs? If you attempt to take an OTA with those apps either frozen or deleted, will you be risking bricking?

amajamar said:
So I should take the updates BEFORE unlocking? I was assuming it was the other way around. OK. Regarding "bloatware", if you just "freeze" it, does that prevent future OTAs? If you attempt to take an OTA with those apps either frozen or deleted, will you be risking bricking?
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Rather than retyping.. please see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
while written due to the 3rd party supplier of bootloader unlock codes, the info applies equally to Dev Edition phones (other than the source of your unlock code)

The Tallest said:
If you have a DE there is absolutely no reason to downgrade. Ever. If you want to be able to tether here's the easiest way to do it.
Activate your phone.
Take all the updates.
Go to this site: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Follow those directions to a "T". Once that's done, download Xposed Framework, then download MotoTether.
The only time you'll need to worry about being rooted is if you delete bloatware and go to take the next OTA. You'll either need to reinstall all the apps you deleted manually or go to Motorola and request the factory image to reflash it.
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I whole-heartedly agree with everything written in this post. You also have to make sure you are on stock recovery if you want to take an OTA. There are plenty of guides around here about taking an OTA, so just make sure you read some of those before you accept an OTA.

I have a suggestion for the OP:
1 - take all the updates on the phone. This will update the radios, boot loader; recovery, and the main ROM (system).
(The boot loader can not be downgraded, but as mentioned above, there really isn't any reason why you would want to try and downgrade your bootloader because you have a DE device)
2 - unlock the bootloader. you can google the steps in the process. Basically you get the unlock key from Motorola. The toughest part of the process is getting the fastboot and device drivers set up properly on your computer. This step will all of the userdata (pictures, apps etc.)
3 - use Fastboot to flash a custom recovery (I use TWRP ver 2.7). then boot into TWRP recovery w/o rebooting. Note that the volume down button is used in the bootloader to highlight your desired option, then volume up is used to select the option. When you are in TWRP and then exit, I believe it will prompt you to install the superuser binaries, which you will want to do.
At this point you can choose do flash a custom 4.4.2 ROM from the Dev section here (the Krypton rom is very good), or you can run stock w/ root. If you choose stock, I recommend the following steps for wifi and customization:
4 - boot up device normally and set it up. you will have be on the stock 4.4.2 rom with root.
5 - install Xposed from here on XDA.
6 then install the xposed module from the moto x apps section (it may also be available to download from within xposed) that enables wifi tethering. This will allow you to use the built in tethering without subscription issues.
7 - install the GravityBox xposed module (you can download this from within Xposed). This allows many of the customizations that you would normally find only in a custom rom (custom quicksettings, reboot options etc).
8 - install rootcloak module for xposed (download within xposed). This will let you run Isis or other apps that don't like root (it comes preconfigured for many apps).

jasoraso said:
I have a suggestion for the OP:
1 - take all the updates on the phone. This will update the radios, boot loader; recovery, and the main ROM (system).
(The boot loader can not be downgraded, but as mentioned above, there really isn't any reason why you would want to try and downgrade your bootloader because you have a DE device)
2 - unlock the bootloader. you can google the steps in the process. Basically you get the unlock key from Motorola. The toughest part of the process is getting the fastboot and device drivers set up properly on your computer. This step will all of the userdata (pictures, apps etc.)
3 - use Fastboot to flash a custom recovery (I use TWRP ver 2.7). then boot into TWRP recovery w/o rebooting. Note that the volume down button is used in the bootloader to highlight your desired option, then volume up is used to select the option. When you are in TWRP and then exit, I believe it will prompt you to install the superuser binaries, which you will want to do.
At this point you can choose do flash a custom 4.4.2 ROM from the Dev section here (the Krypton rom is very good), or you can run stock w/ root. If you choose stock, I recommend the following steps for wifi and customization:
4 - boot up device normally and set it up. you will have be on the stock 4.4.2 rom with root.
5 - install Xposed from here on XDA.
6 then install the xposed module from the moto x apps section (it may also be available to download from within xposed) that enables wifi tethering. This will allow you to use the built in tethering without subscription issues.
7 - install the GravityBox xposed module (you can download this from within Xposed). This allows many of the customizations that you would normally find only in a custom rom (custom quicksettings, reboot options etc).
8 - install rootcloak module for xposed (download within xposed). This will let you run Isis or other apps that don't like root (it comes preconfigured for many apps).
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After reading the link Kidjoe supplied earlier (That was a FANTASTIC, MUST READ reference for noobs who want to understand the complexities of the Moto X), I may stay off KitKat, as I am not a fan of the white icons in the notification bar, however I do think this is the route (root??) I will take.

[Q] foxfi and the new system update verizon

if i update my moto x dev edition will it break foxfi. i see they just updated to 4.4 but im scared to do it hate having to use the bluetooth connection.

trinniboy68 said:
if i update my moto x dev edition will it break foxfi. i see they just updated to 4.4 but im scared to do it hate having to use the bluetooth connection.
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Since you have the developer edition, are you rooted? If so, why not use the stock framework tether? You can use the Xposed module, or the Entitlement Check remover.
Also, if you are rooted, you can use the latest experimental build of WiFi Tether for Root Users.
Is there a specific reason you are wanting to use FoxFi? The only reason I can imagine is that you are not rooted.....but if you aren't rooted, why did you get the Developer Edition?

@trinniboy68,
I agree with @samwathegreat. If you have a Dev Edition, why not unlock your bootloader and root? It doesn't void your warranty on the Dev Edition. And its pretty easy on the Dev Edition.
If you root, and all you want to do is Tether, then to make taking future OTA's easier, I suggest using Wifi Tether For Root app (See my notes about setup at the bootom of THIS PAGE. )
Another option is [APP][MOD][Root]Hotspot Entitlement Bypass v1.1 5/9/2014, but it does make changes to the build.prop, and while it undoes them, I haven't tested to see if it changes the checksum of the build.prop when it reverts its changes(if it does, that would get in the way of future OTA's)

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KidJoe said:
@trinniboy68,
I agree with @samwathegreat. If you have a Dev Edition, why not unlock your bootloader and root? It doesn't void your warranty on the Dev Edition. And its pretty easy on the Dev Edition.
If you root, and all you want to do is Tether, then to make taking future OTA's easier, I suggest using Wifi Tether For Root app (See my notes about setup at the bootom of THIS PAGE. )
Another option is [APP][MOD][Root]Hotspot Entitlement Bypass v1.1 5/9/2014, but it does make changes to the build.prop, and while it undoes them, I haven't tested to see if it changes the checksum of the build.prop when it reverts its changes(if it does, that would get in the way of future OTA's)
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i have an unlocked bootloader. havent rooted yet cause i like the features of the moto are there roms that will dupl. the stock moto. i have verizon unlimited internet so need the ability to wifi link to my computer. as i am on the road a lot and its more secure to use my own wifi than someone elses. having a mac there arent any hacks for my phone, the one i did find the dev. isnt supporting it yet and bricking my phone i cant take right now as im fairly new to this. i rooted my s3

trinniboy68 said:
i have an unlocked bootloader. havent rooted yet cause i like the features of the moto are there roms that will dupl. the stock moto. i have verizon unlimited internet so need the ability to wifi link to my computer. as i am on the road a lot and its more secure to use my own wifi than someone elses. having a mac there arent any hacks for my phone, the one i did find the dev. isnt supporting it yet and bricking my phone i cant take right now as im fairly new to this. i rooted my s3
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No 'hacks' for your phone? The entire android SDK is available for MAC. We have several users here who have flashed their phones 100% with MAC.
If you download the MAC Toolkit, it includes everything you need, even though it isn't supported by its devs anymore. You just won't use any of the scripts (that's all that no longer supported). Also, since you have the DEV edition, you WON'T lose your warranty by rooting it. It's HIGHLY unlikely you will brick your phone unless you do something totally stupid that is well documented here (like: you NEVER downgrade or flash older firmwares/versions on your Moto X - this is one of the few ways you can brick it).
Since you have already unlocked the BL, all you would do is fastboot flash TWRP recovery, and it will root for you. Then you can use either method that @KidJoe and I have suggested for you. There honestly isn't much at all you can mess up.
Additionally, once you install TWRP, you can take a full backup that you could restore in the event of a problem. PLUS the SBF images are available, so even without a backup your phone could still be restored back to stock.

trinniboy68 said:
i have an unlocked bootloader. havent rooted yet cause i like the features of the moto are there roms that will dupl. the stock moto. i have verizon unlimited internet so need the ability to wifi link to my computer. as i am on the road a lot and its more secure to use my own wifi than someone elses. having a mac there arent any hacks for my phone, the one i did find the dev. isnt supporting it yet and bricking my phone i cant take right now as im fairly new to this. i rooted my s3
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Some of these sentences run together, so If I miss anything, I'm sorry.
Rooting wont remove any features of the stock Moto roms. As far as "other roms" duplicating stock, I haven't run anything but the stock rom. While there are "alternates" (like CM) if they are NOT based on stock, they will not have the Moto specific features like active display, always on listening (OK google now....), etc.
I have unlimited data too. I purchased the Dev X since I was going to have to buy an X at full retail because I wanted to keep my Unlimited (and be able to root without waiting on vulnerabilities/exploits).
All I've done is unlocked the bootloader, to root I just flashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738 although the TWRP and SuperSU versions linked are a little out of date now, they still work on 4.4 and 4.4.2). Then I use Wifi Tether for Root as mentioned earlier, greenify, Root Explorer, Quick Boot (reboot), Adree and not really much else that needs root, and no extra tweaks/hacks. In other words, I run stock, but rooted, with a few apps that need ROOT access, and nothing else modified on my phone.
The tools to flash the stock SBF files are RSDLite and mFastboot. Rsdlite is a GUI tool that flashes the full SBF/XML file, all commands, in like a batch mode. mFastboot is a command line tool that allows you to flash parts/pieces one at a time. I don't know if there is an RSDlite for Mac OS, but there is an mFastboot. So if you mess your phone up badly enough, you can usually recover with the stock images. (the only note being DO NOT DOWNGRADE your ROM!! for more see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm )

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KidJoe said:
Some of these sentences run together, so If I miss anything, I'm sorry.
Rooting wont remove any features of the stock Moto roms. As far as "other roms" duplicating stock, I haven't run anything but the stock rom. While there are "alternates" (like CM) if they are NOT based on stock, they will not have the Moto specific features like active display, always on listening (OK google now....), etc.
I have unlimited data too. I purchased the Dev X since I was going to have to buy an X at full retail because I wanted to keep my Unlimited (and be able to root without waiting on vulnerabilities/exploits).
All I've done is unlocked the bootloader, to root I just flashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738 although the TWRP and SuperSU versions linked are a little out of date now, they still work on 4.4 and 4.4.2). Then I use Wifi Tether for Root as mentioned earlier, greenify, Root Explorer, Quick Boot (reboot), Adree and not really much else that needs root, and no extra tweaks/hacks. In other words, I run stock, but rooted, with a few apps that need ROOT access, and nothing else modified on my phone.
The tools to flash the stock SBF files are RSDLite and mFastboot. Rsdlite is a GUI tool that flashes the full SBF/XML file, all commands, in like a batch mode. mFastboot is a command line tool that allows you to flash parts/pieces one at a time. I don't know if there is an RSDlite for Mac OS, but there is an mFastboot. So if you mess your phone up badly enough, you can usually recover with the stock images. (the only note being DO NOT DOWNGRADE your ROM!! for more see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm )
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thank you for the info

[Q] VZW 4.4.4 Unlocked: Root and Tether enabled?

Before I update my DevEd to 4.4.4, I want to ensure that I will still be able to root (use recovery tool or something else?) and that there is some way to use tether.
On 4.4.3, I've been happy using WiFi Tether for Root users - would be nice if this continued to work, but am okay using a different method if need be.
Can someone confirm that both root & tether are functional, and if so, what method(s) are working?

With an Unlocked Bootloader, Yes, you can root by flashing TWRP and SuperSU, the same process. Just make sure you have the latest TWRP and SuperSU from their source web sites. That will be true for ALL updates so long as you have an unlocked bootloader. And it can be dev edition or carrier edition, as long as the bootloader is unlocked.
Wifi tether for root still works on my VZW Dev X with 4.4.4 update.

Mercutio5 said:
Before I update my DevEd to 4.4.4, I want to ensure that I will still be able to root (use recovery tool or something else?) and that there is some way to use tether.
On 4.4.3, I've been happy using WiFi Tether for Root users - would be nice if this continued to work, but am okay using a different method if need be.
Can someone confirm that both root & tether are functional, and if so, what method(s) are working?
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Of course...you're unlocked. Same method - flash TWRP and it will root for you. Since you don't seem to be aware -- you can NOT update unless you flash back stock recovery and un-do any changes you made to /system including installing Xposed (if you did). If all you are using root for is WiFi Tether, nothing to worry about as you probably haven't modified /system. You WILL have to flash back the stock recovery.img before you can accept any OTA. Its always been like this.
WiFi tether should work on 4.4.4, as should the entitlement 'hack'. (I believe both have been confirmed, but check the entitlement hack threads to be sure about it)
And finally......since you mention being on 4.4.3 now, I'm assuming you are using the XT1053 GSM Dev edition (since 4.4.3 was never released for VZW). If so...you do realize that 4.4.4 isn't out yet for the XT1053, right?
It's only out for the VZW XT1060 and soak-tests are just now happening for the AT&T XT1058.

samwathegreat said:
Of course...you're unlocked. Same method - flash TWRP and it will root for you. Since you don't seem to be aware -- you can NOT update unless you flash back stock recovery and un-do any changes you made to /system including installing Xposed (if you did). If all you are using root for is WiFi Tether, nothing to worry about as you probably haven't modified /system. You WILL have to flash back the stock recovery.img before you can accept any OTA. Its always been like this.
WiFi tether should work on 4.4.4, as should the entitlement 'hack'. (I believe both have been confirmed, but check the entitlement hack threads to be sure about it)
And finally......since you mention being on 4.4.3 now, I'm assuming you are using the XT1053 GSM Dev edition (since 4.4.3 was never released for VZW). If so...you do realize that 4.4.4 isn't out yet for the XT1053, right?
It's only out for the VZW XT1060 and soak-tests are just now happening for the AT&T XT1058.
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I'd just assumed to be on 4.4.3 since it's previous to 4.4.4 - but you're correct, I'm on 4.4.2 VZW. After reading through some update methods discussed on XDA, it seems that using RSDLite w/FXZ is the easiest - no need to undo any changes made to /system (I'm sure I've made some, but have no idea what they might have been) and no need to remove TWRP. Plus it supposedly preserves all the data.
And thank you for assuaging my concerns re: root & tether

Mercutio5 said:
I'd just assumed to be on 4.4.3 since it's previous to 4.4.4 - but you're correct, I'm on 4.4.2 VZW. After reading through some update methods discussed on XDA, it seems that using RSDLite w/FXZ is the easiest - no need to undo any changes made to /system (I'm sure I've made some, but have no idea what they might have been) and no need to remove TWRP. Plus it supposedly preserves all the data.
And thank you for assuaging my concerns re: root & tether
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Take caution!! The original leaked fxz was indeed a keep data fxz. It's now gone. The new official leaked fxz is NOT a keep data fxz.
All you have to do is edit the XML file and remove the line containing 'erase userdata' and it will preserve your data.
If you don't do this all your data WILL be erased.
Keep that in mind...
Good luck

samwathegreat said:
Take caution!! The original leaked fxz was indeed a keep data fxz. It's now gone. The new official leaked fxz is NOT a keep data fxz.
All you have to do is edit the XML file and remove the line containing 'erase userdata' and it will preserve your data.
If you don't do this all your data WILL be erased.
Keep that in mind...
Good luck
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Yikes!! Thank you for the heads up.
How did the leaked FXZ disappear? Surely someone's still got it somewhere?

Mercutio5 said:
Yikes!! Thank you for the heads up.
How did the leaked FXZ disappear? Surely someone's still got it somewhere?
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Its all the same "inside" except the included XML file now contains the "Erase USERDATA" statement. Just remove that line from the XML before flashing with RSDLite and you're good.
No reason for the original leak to stick around.

[Q] Best practice for updating VZW unlocked bootloader rooted 4.4.2 Stock ROM

I am on Verizon 4.4.2, bootloader unlocked, rooted, with TWRP. Obviously, OTA won't work, but what is the best way for me to update to 4.4.4 stock ROM w/o wiping my user data?

If the Moto X is anything like the Nexus 5, there may be an OTA update.zip that is lurking around and you can just flash that and then reflash root to update you to the latest software version. Or you could download and flash the SYSTEM.IMG and BOOT.IMG from the 4.4.4 Verizon ROM. I'd recommend the first one and make sure that someone else can safely say that the second method would even work!

Toys Samurai said:
I am on Verizon 4.4.2, bootloader unlocked, rooted, with TWRP. Obviously, OTA won't work, but what is the best way for me to update to 4.4.4 stock ROM w/o wiping my user data?
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The proper way to update is to use the 4.4.4 FXZ from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
In order to retain your data and apps, you need to use the tools provided by @SamuriHL and use the "keep data" option.
Everything you need is listed in the first post, including links and instructions for the tools to use. All of your apps and settings will be intact --AS LONG as you use the tools provided in the OP. If you fail to do this, you WILL lose your data. Afterwards, you can flash TWRP again (from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/ghost ) using fastboot, and re-root your device.
Next time, please remember to post your questions in Q&A, not general.
Good Luck :good:
P.S. I also want to add that using the FXZ is superior to taking the OTA for several reasons, many that I don't care to list. First and foremost, you don't need to worry about flashing stock recovery back (required to take an OTA), and you don't need to worry about any changes you may have made to /system. Follow the simple instructions, and it is done.
You will find numerous instances of people who have struggled to take the OTA, or who have spent enormous amounts of time trying only to have the OTA fail to install. I doubt you'll find ONE person who has struggled with the FXZ. It is so much simpler that I don't understand why anyone recommends using the OTA unless you are completely stock and unrooted. IMO, that is the only time you should use the OTA when an FXZ is available.

samwathegreat said:
The proper way to update is to use the 4.4.4 FXZ from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
In order to retain your data and apps, you need to use the tools provided by @SamuriHL and use the "keep data" option.
Everything you need is listed in the first post, including links and instructions for the tools to use. All of your apps and settings will be intact --AS LONG as you use the tools provided in the OP. If you fail to do this, you WILL lose your data. Afterwards, you can flash TWRP again (from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/ghost ) using fastboot, and re-root your device.
Next time, please remember to post your questions in Q&A, not general.
Good Luck :good:
P.S. I also want to add that using the FXZ is superior to taking the OTA for several reasons, many that I don't care to list. First and foremost, you don't need to worry about flashing stock recovery back (required to take an OTA), and you don't need to worry about any changes you may have made to /system. Follow the simple instructions, and it is done.
You will find numerous instances of people who have struggled to take the OTA, or who have spent enormous amounts of time trying only to have the OTA fail to install. I doubt you'll find ONE person who has struggled with the FXZ. It is so much simpler that I don't understand why anyone recommends using the OTA unless you are completely stock and unrooted. IMO, that is the only time you should use the OTA when an FXZ is available.
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Curious,
What would the difference be in using FXZ vs flashing a 4.4.4 ROM such as krypton? Is it because the FXZ will update boot loader?

SR3TLAW said:
Curious,
What would the difference be in using FXZ vs flashing a 4.4.4 ROM such as krypton? Is it because the FXZ will update boot loader?
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Flashing Krypton is possible from Custom recovery, unlike an OTA / FXZ. In addition, I believe that Krypton only includes the /system and /boot partitions. This is why he states that you need to be on 4.4.2+ first.
The FXZ overwrites all relevant partitions with new data.

Vekhez said:
If the Moto X is anything like the Nexus 5, there may be an OTA update.zip that is lurking around and you can just flash that and then reflash root to update you to the latest software version. Or you could download and flash the SYSTEM.IMG and BOOT.IMG from the 4.4.4 Verizon ROM. I'd recommend the first one and make sure that someone else can safely say that the second method would even work!
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Unfortunately the X is nothing like the N5.

KJ said:
Unfortunately the X is nothing like the N5.
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Yeah, I've found that out as of recently, they are very different devices, very very different indeed

[Q] Question: Rooting the Moto X

Hi there, I've been unsuccessfully trying to root my Moto X since I got it. I know its possible but for the sake of my life, I can't figure it out. I'm hoping XDA members can help out since they probably know more.
Here are my system specs:
Carrier: AT&T
Android Version: 4.4.4
Baseband Version: MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R
Kernel Version: [email protected] ca88lnxdroid14 #1
System Version: 2.12.44.46.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
Build Number: KXA21.12-L1.26

Guess you missed the STICKED threads in the General section.. for example...
[One Stop Shop] How to root the Moto X - Let's end the confusion.
In the OP of that thread...
KidJoe said:
Locked bootloaders on Android 4.4.4
Unfortunately, there is no root method for you guys as of today. And again....no....you can't downgrade. Not without significant risk.
Update: There is a VERY RISKY method to root for Verizon and ATT 4.4.4 users that have a LOCKED bootloader. See -> Moto X Root AT&T/VZW [KXA21.12-L1.26] You are required to be on a particular firmware level, it does NOT disable write protection, it only roots. It is risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
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As for why Write Protection is enabled... well.. its important.
When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
Even if you have root, if Write Protection is enabled, any apps you've installed that need to write to system can't permanently save their changes (you have to re-do every time your phone powers off/on), and any Root type app, or app that you try to install to /system when WP is enabled will either fail or be lost at power off/on.

KidJoe said:
Guess you missed the STICKED threads in the General section.. for example...
[One Stop Shop] How to root the Moto X - Let's end the confusion.
In the OP of that thread...
As for why Write Protection is enabled... well.. its important.
When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
Even if you have root, if Write Protection is enabled, any apps you've installed that need to write to system can't permanently save their changes (you have to re-do every time your phone powers off/on), and any Root type app, or app that you try to install to /system when WP is enabled will either fail or be lost at power off/on.
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I know that, I wasn't going for the "disable write protection". Obviously, there are still ways to gain root without disabling the WP or unlocking boot loader.

AndroidOkie said:
I know that, I wasn't going for the "disable write protection". Obviously, there are still ways to gain root without disabling the WP or unlocking boot loader.
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It can likely be done with MoFo (see the XDA paid software forum) but someone has to build the ext4 images with root and other features like Xposed baked in.

JulesJam said:
It can likely be done with MoFo (see the XDA paid software forum) but someone has to build the ext4 images with root and other features like Xposed baked in.
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Could you link me to that? Also, I'd probably pay to see it happen personally.

AndroidOkie said:
Could you link me to that? Also, I'd probably pay to see it happen personally.
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just search xda paid software mofo in google and you will hit it. The ATT XT1097 MX14 has been rooted but the dev hasn't opened it up for the XT1097 yet.

JulesJam said:
just search xda paid software mofo in google and you will hit it. The ATT XT1097 MX14 has been rooted but the dev hasn't opened it up for the XT1097 yet.
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Thank you for your help, I'll probably pay for it while assuring myself I know what to do haha.

AndroidOkie said:
Thank you for your help, I'll probably pay for it while assuring myself I know what to do haha.
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you can't yet. Someone has to make the image first and test it before the dev would open it up to your device. I am trying to make one for the XT1060 but I have to get the 4.4.4 system in ext4 format first.