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Hi all,
I am currently owning Sony Xperia P and I am thinking about an upgrade to SP. But one problems remain. Camera.
I have read a ton of reviews and it seems that camera is producing pictures with a lot of noise and that the camera of older model P, is actually, better.
I have seen that people say that some custom roms and mods solve this issue, but nothing concrete.
Can you please tell me your experiences with camera? Is it really that bad? Any of the updates solved the problem?
thanks
fleks5 said:
Can you please tell me your experiences with camera? Is it really that bad? Any of the updates solved the problem?
thanks
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I'm using the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition camera (gallery app) and this solves any problem with the camera(you can use it on stock and all other roms), from autofocus to noise. So I'd say dont worry about it and get this amazing phone!
Produces great pictures. But besides that, it still is a phone, not a professional camera hehe.
Robin>Hood said:
I'm using the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition camera (gallery app) and this solves any problem with the camera(you can use it on stock and all other roms), from autofocus to noise. So I'd say dont worry about it and get this amazing phone!
Produces great pictures. But besides that, it still is a phone, not a professional camera hehe.
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Can you put here some samples of photos taken with stock camera and this S4 camera? Some in dim conditions and some in bright conditions. You know. Some kitchen photos, some landscape with blue sky, etc...
thanks !
fleks5 said:
Can you put here some samples of photos taken with stock camera and this S4 camera? Some in dim conditions and some in bright conditions. You know. Some kitchen photos, some landscape with blue sky, etc...
thanks !
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No.
Edit: There is other threads about this and not only on XDA. Look before asking or get a real camera.
its true that the camera of Xperia SP is not that good compared to XP or S3.
the pictures are very noisy and yellowish and in low light the camera get more worse.
i have also tried S4 play edition camera, camera 360, moto x camera but no major difference.
I have a sony xperia Z C6603 and I absolutely hate something about the phone. Before i take pictures it looks great (amazing even) as i take the photo the picture is perfect, then after a second it processes it so much i look more like an alien from outer space than a human being. Not only this but the files are also ridiculously small compare to all other phones. I've downloaded the FV-5 app and it's great, but my photos from my front camera stll lokks like horse s***. i do not want other setting configurations, because nothing fixes it... Has anybody made a fix for this via rooting or whatever? i've searched all over the internet after a solution , but can't seem to find one. One of you geniuses must have a solution, right? (have the 4.3 android version and 10.4.B.0.569 build number).
Not yet. People have tried.many things but.no luck so far. At least Sony finally updated the camera app which was the same since x1 was released
[email protected] Z
indycar said:
Not yet. People have tried.many things but.no luck so far. At least Sony finally updated the camera app which was the same since x1 was released
[email protected] Z
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geez.... Yah... my photos did not get better at all, haha. If they could just change the format to JPG or whatever (know that is big files) that would be fantastic, but nooo.... (now referring to sony and not XDA-developers) Great phone, TERRIBLE photo software.
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I have a sony xperia Z C6603 and I absolutely hate something about the phone. Before i take pictures it looks great (amazing even) as i take the photo the picture is perfect, then after a second it processes it so much i look more like an alien from outer space than a human being. Not only this but the files are also ridiculously small compare to all other phones. I've downloaded the FV-5 app and it's great, but my photos from my front camera stll lokks like horse s***. i do not want other setting configurations, because nothing fixes it... Has anybody made a fix for this via rooting or whatever? i've searched all over the internet after a solution , but can't seem to find one. One of you geniuses must have a solution, right? (have the 4.3 android version and 10.4.B.0.569 build number).
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Yes, Sony's post processing is ****.
Unfortunately, there is no solution as of yet.
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app
if you have extensive knowledge with camera settings you could try using manual mode and set everything yourself.
spazzy1912 said:
if you have extensive knowledge with camera settings you could try using manual mode and set everything yourself.
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That does not help with the secondary camera, it's bad quality no matter what I do.
My girlfriend has a Iphone 5 which deinitely takes better pictures than mine, I think you all agree that this is unacceptable, we must stand together and crush the underpowered Iphone with the wrath of our mighty hardware and fixed software!
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That does not help with the secondary camera, it's bad quality no matter what I do.
My girlfriend has a Iphone 5 which deinitely takes better pictures than mine, I think you all agree that this is unacceptable, we must stand together and crush the underpowered Iphone with the wrath of our mighty hardware and fixed software!
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we can see it two ways
the camera hardware sucks and we can't do anything about it
or the camera software sucks and we have to wait for sony to update their binaries and libraries and other stuff. which we also cannot do anything about.
I agree...when I first looked at myself trough the front camera I thought if I brought a renovated phone with a broken camera...
Mijiwo said:
I agree...when I first looked at myself trough the front camera I thought if I brought a renovated phone with a broken camera...
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Yup, such a waste, it's such a great phone
Hello!
I have installed AOKP 4.3 ROM on my Xperia Z. When I need to take a fast picture, I just use auto ISO/Exposure...
When I wanna get better picture in low light, I just use a little bit tweaking In low light, when I'm taking picture of some close object, I just put ISO on 100/200 (max), use flash and that's it! When I'm taking picture a little bit further (3/4 meters), I use 200/400 ISO, and use flash if I can (very big con of our device is bad flash). When I'm doing night portrait, just put ISO on 400 and turn on HDR, photos will look awsome believe me
Tonight I could upload some pictures from my Z, just to give you some clue.
P.S. When you're using front camera, turn on HDR you will get a much better photo quality
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Hello!
I have installed AOKP 4.3 ROM on my Xperia Z. When I need to take a fast picture, I just use auto ISO/Exposure...
When I wanna get better picture in low light, I just use a little bit tweaking In low light, when I'm taking picture of some close object, I just put ISO on 100/200 (max), use flash and that's it! When I'm taking picture a little bit further (3/4 meters), I use 200/400 ISO, and use flash if I can (very big con of our device is bad flash). When I'm doing night portrait, just put ISO on 400 and turn on HDR, photos will look awsome believe me
Tonight I could upload some pictures from my Z, just to give you some clue.
P.S. When you're using front camera, turn on HDR you will get a much better photo quality
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Thank you so much, I will definitely try!
I found oyt that the HDR was turned on, the picture quality is still terrible....
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Thank you so much, I will definitely try!
I found oyt that the HDR was turned on, the picture quality is still terrible....
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Did you turned off 'soft tan effect'' or something like this? It helps a bit on stock ROM (Honami camera app)
I'm using AOKP ROM and I have better front camera picture quality than my friend (Galaxy S4), I just turned on HDR
MARKOZD15 said:
Did you turned off 'soft tan effect'' or something like this? It helps a bit on stock ROM (Honami camera app)
I'm using AOKP ROM and I have better front camera picture quality than my friend (Galaxy S4), I just turned on HDR
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I just flashed the ROM after aloooooooot of work and I currently have the PAC-MAN ROM and the picture quality is amazing. It takes pictures in JPEG automaticallly and the files aren't that big! If anyone wants to do this I can deliver some links which actually unlocks bootloader, roots and flashes ROM, looked for the right downloads for ages.
Loving my new moto g. The camera has improved in many ways when compared to gen1. However, whenever I click pictures with the front camera especially when not in sunlight the picture comes shaky and blur. I attached a screenshot of how the pic is supposed(screenshot in the camera app) to come n how it ends up coming.
P.s.- I don't have shaky hands
Probably the front camera aperture is not wide enough to take pictures with faster shutter in low light situations. If it sets the shutter speed too low a minimal shake will make your pic blur.
Edit :Can you see what ISO, aperture and shutter speed is being used (check picture details)?
Front camera is one of the worst components on android phones...
Even the rear camera is not that great on the majority of android phones, so nothing to expect that on the new moto g that the front camera would be anything better...
Kunal5894 said:
Loving my new moto g. The camera has improved in many ways when compared to gen1. However, whenever I click pictures with the front camera especially when not in sunlight the picture comes shaky and blur. I attached a screenshot of how the pic is supposed(screenshot in the camera app) to come n how it ends up coming.
P.s.- I don't have shaky hands
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Download Google Camera From playstore. Image quality is better than the stock camera app .
Shubham84 said:
Download Google Camera From playstore. Image quality is better than the stock camera app .
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Does it improve even the front facing camera ? Could someone please upload a picture taken with the Google Camera and one with the Stock Camera app so we can check the differences ;D ?
Marakatu said:
Does it improve even the front facing camera ? Could someone please upload a picture taken with the Google Camera and one with the Stock Camera app so we can check the differences ;D ?
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that would be very nice, to make a comparison...
Marakatu said:
Could someone please upload a picture taken with the Google Camera and one with the Stock Camera app so we can check the differences ;D ?
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It would take you a second to do the same thing. Don't be lazy m8.
Sadly mine isn't here yet (on pre-order in UK, releases on the 15th. My original Moto G broke a couple of days ago too so it was just as well this is releasing.)
I have a problem with the front camera. In low light condition, my camera suffers a delay in comparison of reality, as if it was lag. Anyone else with this same problem?
josesaiz said:
I have a problem with the front camera. In low light condition, my camera suffers a delay in comparison of reality, as if it was lag. Anyone else with this same problem?
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Yes , I got the moto g 2 like 5 days back
And I do face the lag on the front camera
Syhota said:
It would take you a second to do the same thing. Don't be lazy m8.
Sadly mine isn't here yet (on pre-order in UK, releases on the 15th. My original Moto G broke a couple of days ago too so it was just as well this is releasing.)
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I would do it if mine was with me. Still didn't receive it.
Once I get my hands on it I'll do it and post it here ;D
Marakatu said:
I would do it if mine was with me. Still didn't receive it.
Once I get my hands on it I'll do it and post it here ;D
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Finally dispatched at like 5:15pm today.
Says it'll be here between Thursday and Friday. Don't want to wait so long
Hello guys, I updated my Xperia Z's firmware from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 (292) a week ago. I really like the update, its much smoother, but I noticed that the camera is really poor even in the outdoor with less light exposure (its fine with good light exposure). I see theres too much color noise, it destroys every photos. And the indoor is much worse, moreover if i use the front camera. I used to very love taking pictures with my lovely XZ, but never save any with 4.4.4 camera . 4.4.4 camera is unlike the camera in the 4.4.2 with much lesser noise and unnoticeably color noise at all. I took random pictures and loved it so much. I wanna know if I could replace the 4.4.4 camera software with the 4.4.2 ones. Could it be by Flashing the 4.4.2 camera software/system to my 4.4.4 firmware or something? and how? Please help. Thank you so much developers..
Regards Dhicky.
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Hello guys, I updated my Xperia Z's firmware from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 (292) a week ago. I really like the update, its much smoother, but I noticed that the camera is really poor even in the outdoor with less light exposure (its fine with good light exposure). I see theres too much color noise, it destroys every photos. And the indoor is much worse, moreover if i use the front camera. I used to very love taking pictures with my lovely XZ, but never save any with 4.4.4 camera . 4.4.4 camera is unlike the camera in the 4.4.2 with much lesser noise and unnoticeably color noise at all. I took random pictures and loved it so much. I wanna know if I could replace the 4.4.4 camera software with the 4.4.2 ones. Could it be by Flashing the 4.4.2 camera software/system to my 4.4.4 firmware or something? and how? Please help. Thank you so much developers..
Regards Dhicky.
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You have a misconception dude... Camera quality is same as before...
DastanShaikh said:
You have a misconception dude... Camera quality is same as before...
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Im sure 100% that the camera is different dude , i have tried to take photos with the 4.4.4 cameras, front and rear one, and the saved it to my pc, then I reflashed it back to 4.4.2 and took pics using both camera too. Then I compared it. Its clear that the 4.4.4 brings more color noise. so now I'm using 4.4.2.
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Im sure 100% that the camera is different dude , i have tried to take photos with the 4.4.4 cameras, front and rear one, and the saved it to my pc, then I reflashed it back to 4.4.2 and took pics using both camera too. Then I compared it. Its clear that the 4.4.4 brings more color noise. so now I'm using 4.4.2.
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Not a issue with the indian version of firmware... Search the Indian genric ftf and flash it....and u will not be disappointed dude....
As we all know the sensor and lens on the Z3 are some of the best on the market right now. However, for some reason, Sony, who make maybe the best compact cameras out there, seems to have failed miserably in regard to the camera software in its phones. All photos come out with little detail, soft focus, artifacts and overprocessed. Do you think that will get fixed in 5.0(2)? Will the camera finally be comparable to, say, the Galaxy Note 4 or some of the Lumias?
Regards.
what terrible camera?
i'm no Ansel Adams, but i think the Z3c has a great camera, especially once you get the hang of it.
seklerek said:
As we all know the sensor and lens on the Z3 are some of the best on the market right now. However, for some reason, Sony, who make maybe the best compact cameras out there, seems to have failed miserably in regard to the camera software in its phones. All photos come out with little detail, soft focus, artifacts and overprocessed. Do you think that will get fixed in 5.0(2)? Will the camera finally be comparable to, say, the Galaxy Note 4 or some of the Lumias?
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In theory yes. With Lollipop we will be able to take RAW images with the camera due to the new api. RAW images are unprocessed, straight from the sensor. The Sony camera sensor is good but the software image processing isn't. Taking photos in RAW eliminates the poor image processing so the images should be much much better.
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I actually agree on this, especially when taking photos. All the other devices I used before my Z3 Compact did not try to focus again after I already touched focus a certain area, but my Z3C actually does so as I press the shutter button. It also has trouble trying to focus on really close objects, only able to get precise focus 1/10 of the time.
I personally use google camera for simple, clear, low-processed pictures. The drawback is that the photos cannot be saved on the sd card w/o root.
Or, you can very well use the manual mode - this one also is pulling some nice photos, w/o blur,
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I personally use google camera for simple, clear, low-processed pictures. The drawback is that the photos cannot be saved on the sd card w/o root.
Or, you can very well use the manual mode - this one also is pulling some nice photos, w/o blur,
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Atleast on the regular Z3 you can choose to save photos and videos on the sd card directly.
Camera, the three blocks, settings icons.
I'm currently playing around with the app ABetterCamera and so far images are taken faster and low light photos look much better. They have an option to choose where to store the photos and if you choose external card it gives you the message Android doesn't allow that...BUT there is an option to choose custom folder which I pointed to the SDCard and it worked!
Yeah I find the camera terrible too.
My dads Note 2 takes much better pictures. If I put them side by side at a certain distance and take a picture of a piece of paper, on one I can clearly read what is written on it, and on the other it's all blurrines. I didn't expect this camera to suck that big especially compared to such an old low-res camera.
If that was not enough, colors are much more innatural on the sony, while the note 2 reproduces them much better...
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Yeah I find the camera terrible too.
My dads Note 2 takes much better pictures. If I put them side by side at a certain distance and take a picture of a piece of paper, on one I can clearly read what is written on it, and on the other it's all blurrines. I didn't expect this camera to suck that big especially compared to such an old low-res camera.
If that was not enough, colors are much more innatural on the sony, while the note 2 reproduces them much better...
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Unless you print out the pictures or look at them on the same screen it's really not possible to compare color reproduction from camera to camera.
Try ABetterCamera app, for me it takes better shots.
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Atleast on the regular Z3 you can choose to save photos and videos on the sd card directly.
Camera, the three blocks, settings icons.
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If you use the sony camera yes you can, but he was using Google camera that can't save to Sdcard.
Back camera is mostly ok. But the front camera is the worst! I cannot wait to sony fixes this soft skin efect bug. It's driving me nuts!!
I think the camera Lumia 925 that I had, much better than the camera's compact Z3. To be honest, the camera of this device did not please me so much.
android167 said:
Back camera is mostly ok. But the front camera is the worst! I cannot wait to sony fixes this soft skin efect bug. It's driving me nuts!!
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You can actually turn the "soft skin effect" off in the menu and if you want better pictures from the front camera make sure the "HDR" option is always enabled.
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Unless you print out the pictures or look at them on the same screen it's really not possible to compare color reproduction from camera to camera.
Try ABetterCamera app, for me it takes better shots.
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Camera FV-5 is a better choice. It allows 100% JPG Quality, 100% Thumbnail quality AND uncompressed PNG format option for taking shots.
seklerek said:
As we all know the sensor and lens on the Z3 are some of the best on the market right now. However, for some reason, Sony, who make maybe the best compact cameras out there, seems to have failed miserably in regard to the camera software in its phones. All photos come out with little detail, soft focus, artifacts and overprocessed. Do you think that will get fixed in 5.0(2)? Will the camera finally be comparable to, say, the Galaxy Note 4 or some of the Lumias?
Regards.
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I personally will not get my hopes up that Sony will do anything to the camera software to improve image quality just because 5.0 supports RAW format. Sony may not even include RAW support in their version of 5.0.
So many times, phone manufacturers pick and choose which features of android to implement or substitute that feature with their own.
seklerek said:
As we all know the sensor and lens on the Z3 are some of the best on the market right now. However, for some reason, Sony, who make maybe the best compact cameras out there, seems to have failed miserably in regard to the camera software in its phones. All photos come out with little detail, soft focus, artifacts and overprocessed. Do you think that will get fixed in 5.0(2)? Will the camera finally be comparable to, say, the Galaxy Note 4 or some of the Lumias?
Regards.
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The formal answer is "no" - it will NOT fix the poor image processing. RAW format is not supported by Sony in Android 5.0
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/1...-does-not-support-manual-camera-settings-raw/
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The formal answer is "no" - it will NOT fix the poor image processing. RAW format is not supported by Sony in Android 5.0
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/1...-does-not-support-manual-camera-settings-raw/
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That's sad, I had my hopes up that they would finally do something about it. How can a camera company make a phone camera so bad I can't understand.
Daryll99 said:
You can actually turn the "soft skin effect" off in the menu and if you want better pictures from the front camera make sure the "HDR" option is always enabled.
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Camera FV-5 is a better choice. It allows 100% JPG Quality, 100% Thumbnail quality AND uncompressed PNG format option for taking shots.
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You cannot. Try to turn it off, take a picture, then take a picture when it's on. There is apsolutely no difference.
camera is not terrible, doesn't need to be fixed. because iphone has better camera doesn't mean it's terrible, it's just second best after Gs5 in android (third after iphone)
ilgreco112 said:
camera is not terrible, doesn't need to be fixed. because iphone has better camera doesn't mean it's terrible, it's just second best after Gs5 in android (third after iphone)
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Hardware is indeed great, but software is very bad, and since the combination of both make the picture, the camera needs to be fixed (software part).
I mean look at all the phones using SONY sensors, they take excellent pictures on AUTO. Z3? Nope, rarely. Manual is super, but sometimes you do not have the time to fiddle around with the settings. And no DNG RAW in 5.0.2? Well, totally wasted potential of this phone's camera.
I'm very disappointed with the Z3C camera too... I mean, considering the specs, I was hoping for a lot much better pictures.
I´ve just got mine, I did a lot of research before buying a new phone (I had a Note 2), and the main reasons why I bought this phone are: size/specs, battery life and camera. I also considered buying the Moto Maxx (Brazilian Droid Turbo variant) but the Z3C compactness (is this a word?) made me chose it and I'm kind of regretting it a little bit... lol