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Any possibility for turning off the screen when I am using mhl tv out?
It doesn't makes sense that the screen it is on with the same image all the time.
How do you plan on doing stuff without using the screen? I can understand if you want to have it turned off during movies, but isn't it possible to turn the screen off and still get the image on the TV (when you're watching movies etc.)?
LordManhattan said:
How do you plan on doing stuff without using the screen? I can understand if you want to have it turned off during movies, but isn't it possible to turn the screen off and still get the image on the TV (when you're watching movies etc.)?
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No, it isn possible.
If you turn the screen off, then the tv doens't play anything, thats because I ask.
For movies or flash on phone streaming to tv I don't want to have the screen on but I can't put it off and continue playing or I don't see how to do it
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probably isnt possible, the same as with conencting a laptop to the tv via hdmi, the laptop cannot be shut and still plays the video
well i have a Blackberry Playbook + Galaxy Note, the playbook has an amazing option (would be great if they could put it in the Note) they have presentation mode for videos, u press it and then u can hit the off button, the screen will go off but the video will keep on playing
I am using Galaxy Note too. The reason why we need to turn off the Mobile Screen while playing movie, is because of the performance.
I read somewhere that the movie playing on TV is having bad performance because the phone has to render for 2 displays, hence it make the playback lags.
I bought MHL cable and it's really a waste that I can't have a smooth playback of movie...
I haven't tried it yet but maybe a combination of the TegraDisplaySelector.apk with chainfire3d will allow us to turn our screens off.
from:
http://dext3r.komodin.org/
This widget app will give you the option to be able to switch between LCD and HDMI output, so you can preserver battery power, and disable any
annoying display enabled on lcd while using your TV.
you need to note, that managing the display is best with a mouse, but you can still use the disabled tablet screen for controlling your screen, but its not easy.
Remember you need to add this to your screen as a widget, thats the only way to access it, and it require root access to run the lcd vs. hdmi functionality. It does not work on android 3.x, as the library does not appear on that release for now
fosselman said:
I haven't tried it yet but maybe a combination of the TegraDisplaySelector.apk with chainfire3d will allow us to turn our screens off.
from:
http://dext3r.komodin.org/
This widget app will give you the option to be able to switch between LCD and HDMI output, so you can preserver battery power, and disable any
annoying display enabled on lcd while using your TV.
you need to note, that managing the display is best with a mouse, but you can still use the disabled tablet screen for controlling your screen, but its not easy.
Remember you need to add this to your screen as a widget, thats the only way to access it, and it require root access to run the lcd vs. hdmi functionality. It does not work on android 3.x, as the library does not appear on that release for now
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NICE! Will test it out when I get home
ghlaw said:
I am using Galaxy Note too. The reason why we need to turn off the Mobile Screen while playing movie, is because of the performance.
I read somewhere that the movie playing on TV is having bad performance because the phone has to render for 2 displays, hence it make the playback lags.
I bought MHL cable and it's really a waste that I can't have a smooth playback of movie...
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I get absolutely no lag on HD movie playing over MHL
but i agree that having both screens running is completely useless
when watching a movie
Richy99 said:
probably isnt possible, the same as with conencting a laptop to the tv via hdmi, the laptop cannot be shut and still plays the video
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A little off-topic, but yes you can. Windows button + P will shut the computer screen off and only show the image on the TV.
nothing new?
Interested in a solution to this myself. Why burn the pixels when there is no need? Im a bit uneasy trying out the tegra solution presented above. I am heading to the play store to see what is available as far as presentation apps and such.
Wanted to bump this thread back up. Has anyond found a way to turn off or disable the phone screen while using the mhl hdmi out?
Like others mentioned its silly to have the phone screen on at the same time your watching a movie on a tv screen. There should at least be an option to disable phone screen while watching movie.
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Wanted to bump this thread back up. Has anyond found a way to turn off or disable the phone screen while using the mhl hdmi out?
Like others mentioned its silly to have the phone screen on at the same time your watching a movie on a tv screen. There should at least be an option to disable phone screen while watching movie.
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Look at my app here. It would be the solution.
Screen Standby its a app u can download keep ur touchs working i know what u mean like playingg ames whitout looking at device like gta! touch still works
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kersh said:
Hi
Any possibility for turning off the screen when I am using mhl tv out?
It doesn't makes sense that the screen it is on with the same image all the time.
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just did this to see that answer in ur notfications
No solutions yet? Would be nice if MHL mode could disable the phone screen for saving energy while improving HDMI video performance. I'd like to use my Galaxy Note as a netbook with external bluetooth mouse and keyboard, so keeping the phone screen on would be useless.
MHL does turn the screen off - but seems only while using built in player and playing a movie. At least it works like this on android 6 and Note 4. I am interested however in using KODI with the screen off while playing media...
so i just bought a MHL adapter for this in hopes of it looking good on a big screen. connected it to my 19" monitor first...popped up and it looked ok. icons were a little bigger than what looks compared to on the device. so using my BT mouse and keyboard i did some browsing around through some apps...not a good experience at all. then i noticed it cut the edges off on all 4 sides by just a little bit. look horrible. i thought it was the monitor, so i moved it to my 42" tv.
so connected it to my tv, again, cut off the edges, everything got larger. if you get a notification, the bar is so big u need to scroll down, not ideal, looks cheap.
tried web browsing, not as bad but every time you click on something to insert txt, a HUGE keyboard shows up that you have to hit back button on mouse or keyboard to get it to go away. cant get around this because to connect BT keyboard need to have the samsung keyboard active. maybe will be different using smart dock and usb keyboard. the notification bar takes up so much space along with tabbed browsing and address bar that 1/3 of your screen is gone.
the audio sounded horrible via hdmi, didnt try to use a 3.5mm out at the same to see if that would change.
oh and it eats battery.
did anyone else try it and have better luck? will the smart dock do a better job?
To get rid of the on screen keyboard while using a secondary monitor, download "null keyboard" from the play store. Also, I agree that the hdmi experience isn't anything to write home about, but it is useful for watching downloaded movie's, or browsing YouTube. I use a handheld bluetooth keyboard, and it's usable, but not too pleasant.
the reason why the edges are cut off isnt because of your phone, its because of your TV. you have overscan enabled. disable it.
as for the keyboard, yeah, i noticed that as well. it seems to only really go away with the default keyboard. kinda annoying =(
I believe with the smart dock the keyboard doesn't pop up if u have one connected
Souai said:
the reason why the edges are cut off isnt because of your phone, its because of your TV. you have overscan enabled. disable it.
as for the keyboard, yeah, i noticed that as well. it seems to only really go away with the default keyboard. kinda annoying =(
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whats overscan? i tried looking at every setting for picture..didnt see anything ..
The MHL should have a power connector because of the high power consumption of the device. It needs to be plugged in. I get great sound over HDMI, maybe your video has a bad encode?
I will agree, on a 40" TV it doesn't look too great, but then I didn't transcode for a large screen either...
Would running a custom rom stop from the mhl hdmi to work?
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Hdmi sound is digital. Something is wrong with your setup
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
Greetings i just bought the original Samsung MHL for note 2 and galaxy s3 today .
To be honest if you want to play games , or do what you normally do with your phone its very laggy and bad quality picture.
If you want it to watch movies, youtube, music, Photos e.t.c ( Multimedia) its great . The video engine its totally different so the video output on screen its very nice and the sound very good.
So if you dont have a media center home or smart tv or whatever its good to have . If you have then its a bad investment you can not do much on screen even with BT keyboard.
Oh , browsing its ok...
I expected more but unfortuantly thats the deal, i dont know if someone running 4.1.2 can confirm better performance on mirroring , games etc. i run stock on latest update 4.1.1 .
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I own the Smart Dock and the virtual keyboard doesn't pop up when connected to USB KVM.
As far the display not fitting the screen there's a tools button on the Samsung TV's remote that allows changing the Picture Size to Just Scan so it fits properly.
For the most part it works well except for a few minor quirks but it may be related to me connected to an Avocent KVM to use one set of monitor, keyboard and mouse for all my devices. For anyone with Smart Dock, does holding down both shift and space bring up English(US)?
Yes this is overscan. This is common place with home theater pcs. Typically tvs don't have much functionality when it comes to dealing with over/underscan. Luckily with pcs, gpu drivers do.
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Same deal with using the allshare cast hub, got the cutoff screen untill I adjusted my tv settings. The only issue I have with the hub is that ive noticed the sound lags a tad. Love everything else.
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so is overscan on our tv's something we have to live with?
You can turn overscan off. Just look in your televisions picture setup. The scaling should be done by your phone. Not the telly.
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whats overscan? i tried looking at every setting for picture..didnt see anything ..
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If its a Samsung you may need to switch from 16×9 to autofit.
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I just got my adapter in today from Samsung. It just get a gray screen. Is there a limit to what it can push to? I had it connected to a new Samsung 65" TV.
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The stock video player plays full screen and correct aspect ratio. Random regular apps like gtalk display full screen and correct aspect also.
Netflix squishes into 4:3 for no explicable reason.
It's not the particular video on netflix since it looks right on the phone screen and it looks right on the tv too if I use my ltevo to play the same vid via mhl to the same tv over the same hdmi cable instead of the gn2.
Stretch to fit doesn't correct it either. No zoom/aspect option corrects it.
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You can turn overscan off. Just look in your televisions picture setup. The scaling should be done by your phone. Not the telly.
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Thanks, I have a Samsung 40" tv so I'll check it out later tonight to see if that option is available. I'm really loving this mhl cable though~
KEYofR said:
The stock video player plays full screen and correct aspect ratio. Random regular apps like gtalk display full screen and correct aspect also.
Netflix squishes into 4:3 for no explicable reason.
It's not the particular video on netflix since it looks right on the phone screen and it looks right on the tv too if I use my ltevo to play the same vid via mhl to the same tv over the same hdmi cable instead of the gn2.
Stretch to fit doesn't correct it either. No zoom/aspect option corrects it.
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Yes netflix is squished into 4:3 on the smart dock too and probably on the allshare cast hub but I don't have that to test it.
The squish thing Netflix does is just Netflix and whatever coding they did for the app. I think it does same thing on the GS3.
Hello,
I've got note II (stock rom 4.1.2) and Smart dock. When I connect only keyboard pendrive etc (not mouse) to the dock, and connect all to TV (hdmi) the phone's screen is still on. In this way I have very good framerate. I can play games and watch movies. Ecerything works like a charm. But when I connect the USB mouse, phone's screen is off. It's good for that purpose, but after that I've got really big problems with framerates. Films are not like 25fps, more like 18 to 20. I don't know why it works like that.
I have still yet to reproduce this effect. I can only assume its something with your ROM or maybe the USB mouse. Mine works and I never see a frame rate drop.
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Are you on a custom ROM. Kernel. Stock.
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xKrisx said:
I have still yet to reproduce this effect. I can only assume its something with your ROM or maybe the USB mouse. Mine works and I never see a frame rate drop.
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Are you on a custom ROM. Kernel. Stock.
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I've tried two logitech mice. I've got last stock rom drom samsung 4.1.2. Does the screen off in your device when you connect mouse? Because i think the problem is with this feature
Yes. I actually dont even use my wired mouse. It is only connected to auto off/rotate my screen. Does your TV have the option to set display to 720p instead of the 1080p the DOC defaults. I managed to replicate a FPS drop when connecting to a friends TV. Checked settings and it was displaying at 1080p. Changed it down to 720p max and it cleared right up.
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xKrisx said:
Yes. I actually dont even use my wired mouse. It is only connected to auto off/rotate my screen. Does your TV have the option to set display to 720p instead of the 1080p the DOC defaults. I managed to replicate a FPS drop when connecting to a friends TV. Checked settings and it was displaying at 1080p. Changed it down to 720p max and it cleared right up.
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Actually my tv don't have such option. This issue is strange because without mouse all is extra smooth
I can vouch for the OPs Smart Dock issue as I have had the dock for awhile trying to isolate the same problem. Its not a rom issue.... if you look at NZtechfreak's (google search) review of his early loaner sample from Samsung, he didnt have any noticeable sign of this issue..... but if you notice at the end of his review he states that one issue is that the screen does not turn off at all while in use.
Samsung must have updated the software to recognize when a mouse is connected and for the phone to shut off the screen for display just on TV or Monitor..... however they updated this function, screws up the output. I have no 720p tv's or monitors to verify if it does not have the same effect but on my 1080p Sony & Samsung TVs, and my Samsung & Generic monitors, it happens. (either 1080i or 1080p is how the dock is detected on my displays)
Ive already tried reverting my Note 2 back to complete AT&T stock, different HDMI cables, different mice (both basic wired and wireless) and all combinations work fairly smoothly up until the point you plug in the usb cable/dongle of a mouse, then it switches off the phone's display and you can see how the smoothly mirrored output on your display begins to lag.
Its easy to notice if you mirror a movie or run a game on the phone while in the dock and seeing it displayed on both screens the just keep plugging in and out a mouse to the dock and you should see the difference.
Hopefully this Smart Dock is firmware updatable and Samsung fixes this ASAP.
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I can vouch for the OPs Smart Dock issue as I have had the dock for awhile trying to isolate the same problem. Its not a rom issue.... if you look at NZtechfreak's (google search) review of his early loaner sample from Samsung, he didnt have any noticeable sign of this issue..... but if you notice at the end of his review he states that one issue is that the screen does not turn off at all while in use.
Samsung must have updated the software to recognize when a mouse is connected and for the phone to shut off the screen for display just on TV or Monitor..... however they updated this function, screws up the output. I have no 720p tv's or monitors to verify if it does not have the same effect but on my 1080p Sony & Samsung TVs, and my Samsung & Generic monitors, it happens. (either 1080i or 1080p is how the dock is detected on my displays)
Ive already tried reverting my Note 2 back to complete AT&T stock, different HDMI cables, different mice (both basic wired and wireless) and all combinations work fairly smoothly up until the point you plug in the usb cable/dongle of a mouse, then it switches off the phone's display and you can see how the smoothly mirrored output on your display begins to lag.
Its easy to notice if you mirror a movie or run a game on the phone while in the dock and seeing it displayed on both screens the just keep plugging in and out a mouse to the dock and you should see the difference.
Hopefully this Smart Dock is firmware updatable and Samsung fixes this ASAP.
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I hope that they will update it soon, because it's really annoying.
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I hope that they will update it soon, because it's really annoying.
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yeah, I hope so too since I mainly bought this to play games on the big screen and this bug makes it unplayable unless you stick to the simple ones like angry birds or something. As for my MC4......forget it! at least I can browse and watch streaming movies still.... just have to disconnect the mouse each time.
I am wondering if BT mice do not cause this issue since they bypass the dock?
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yeah, I hope so too since I mainly bought this to play games on the big screen and this bug makes it unplayable unless you stick to the simple ones like angry birds or something. As for my MC4......forget it! at least I can browse and watch streaming movies still.... just have to disconnect the mouse each time.
I am wondering if BT mice do not cause this issue since they bypass the dock?
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With BT mouse screen is on and everything works fine. But when you are watching videos it's shown on overlay without subtitles etc and you have to force landskape mode because phone still things that it doesn't have mouse.
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With BT mouse screen is on and everything works fine. But when you are watching videos it's shown on overlay without subtitles etc and you have to force landskape mode because phone still things that it doesn't have mouse.
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I've already bought it the only way shich is annoying with bluetooth mouse is that the videos is playing in the overlay. I have dice player which shows subtitles in hdmi but i like more the option with showing on tv exactly what is on the phone
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I've already bought it the only way shich is annoying with bluetooth mouse is that the videos is playing in the overlay. I have dice player which shows subtitles in hdmi but i like more the option with showing on tv exactly what is on the phone
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I know with MXplayer it plays subtitles and you can pinch to zoom in and out so u can make it fit the screen
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I know with MXplayer it plays subtitles and you can pinch to zoom in and out so u can make it fit the screen
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I don't have problems with fitting the screen There are many half solutions but I want more make it work out of the box as it should work
I just got my Nook HD+ and went ahead and put the carbon emmc tweaked rom on it. I am coming from a HP Touchpad with CM9. I was hoping the Nook HD+ would be an "upgrade" due to hdmi out and microSD card capabilities, but so far it seems like the Nook HD+ is no where near as fast as the Touchpad CM9??? I never even overclocked the Touchpad.
I am mostly wanting to use it for video playback and I use BSPlayer, re-encoded 480p mkvs and on the Touchpad I could easily speed up playback to even 1.8 or 2.0 (double speed playback) and it wouldnt miss frames, would stay in sync with the audio and it wouldnt be choppy at all. With the HD+ I cant even play the same files at 1.2 playback speed without it going out of sync with the audio and it seems it speeds up the audio but not the video. With MX Player playback is choppy and missing frames etc... I am so confused as to why the HD+ cannot handle these lower resolution re-encoded files. I even tried a faster microSD card, putting files on the internal storage and its always the same choppy out of sync result. Same result with downloaded lower resolution 360p mp4 files from youtube. I tried older BSPlayer apks and the newest, same result. Before I took the stock OS off of the HD+ I had basically the same video playback results as I do no with the carbon tweaked rom on it. My Galaxy S2 Stock using BSPlayer has no problems with the playback/speeding up playback just like the Touchpad.
I also noticed that the HD+ tends to lag and the touch sensitivity isnt all that great?????
One last question, is it normal for the proprietary charging cable to be loose in the charging port bc mine does not "click" into the port at all and it seems fairly loose, loose enough that when I barely move the cord at all and the connector "wiggles" just a little bit the charging light goes off. It charges fine if I do not move it and make sure that the connector is pushed all the way in, but it just seems to me that it should "click" into place more and or at the very least be a tighter fit so that it doesnt stop charging at the slightest movement of the cord.
Thanks for any and all help with these ?'s
(I meant to post this in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting, my apologies mods, please move if need be)
The charger cable easily comes loose on mine when you move the device, so I would assume that's normal.
I personally don't have any problems with video playback or audio dropping out of sync when sped up, although I personally use mxplayer. Do you have HW decoding turned on in bsplayer or are you using software decoding?
no playback issues here with mx player as well.
I've never had the lag problem either with the ui.
running cm 10.1 7/19 build.
ira_est_a_donum said:
I also noticed that the HD+ tends to lag and the touch sensitivity isnt all that great?????
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For touch sensitivity you can play with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347003
As someone who owned a Touchpad, I can tell you right now, the hardware in the Nook HD/HD+ is way more powerful than the TP. There is virtually no lag on the Nook and we don't even have overclock abilities (and I had my TP on 2.1ghz). The fact is only has two cores seems to be a non-issue, in fact my last tablet was an N7 gen 1, and this is easily just as smooth/lag free. Also I have no problems play HD content on my Nook. I use Plex's built in player (for streaming) and Rockplayer (for local).
I've noticed in mxplayer, the HW+ decoder drops some frames with videos using certain codecs. Switching to HW or SW might fix your frame drop issues.
I've owned the Touchpad and now the Nook HD+, and have used both extensively. Firstly, the HD+ definitely has superior hardware to the TP. However I think that the 1080p display can sometimes push the HD+ to its limit. The TP's display is 1024x768, so it has to push much less pixels.
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The charger cable easily comes loose on mine when you move the device, so I would assume that's normal.
I personally don't have any problems with video playback or audio dropping out of sync when sped up, although I personally use mxplayer. Do you have HW decoding turned on in bsplayer or are you using software decoding?
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As someone who owned a Touchpad, I can tell you right now, the hardware in the Nook HD/HD+ is way more powerful than the TP. There is virtually no lag on the Nook and we don't even have overclock abilities (and I had my TP on 2.1ghz). The fact is only has two cores seems to be a non-issue, in fact my last tablet was an N7 gen 1, and this is easily just as smooth/lag free. Also I have no problems play HD content on my Nook. I use Plex's built in player (for streaming) and Rockplayer (for local).
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I've noticed in mxplayer, the HW+ decoder drops some frames with videos using certain codecs. Switching to HW or SW might fix your frame drop issues.
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I tried both hardware and software decoding on BSPlayer... tried MXPlayer as well...I thought about trying dice player and rockplayer but ehh I think I got a lemon tablet so why try ...I even tried on demand then performance in cpu power settings...but its not just video playback... reading pdfs its rendering is slow... and I am talking about stuff that my GS2 and Touchpad did easily, same files, using the same app - moon reader etc.. the video is low resolution stuff even so it shouldnt be a problem for the HD+...and I dont have any other apps installed other than what came on the rom, bsplayer, moon reader and es file explorer...no background items running etc... they only way I can really describe its laggy-ness is its as if I was running windows 7 on an old pentium 4 with 512mb RAM...and trying to multi task watching a video in the background and then trying to play a game or something it would choke it...
I think I got a "lemon" as I believe it was a returned tablet bc it wasnt sealed and it had fingerprints on it etc but it was wiped fresh to stock and once I cleaned off the fingerprints it was perfect so I decided to keep it... but now I think the person returned it bc they either screwed it up or it was a lemon to begin with... wonder if I can get a new one under warranty of some sorts...
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For touch sensitivity you can play with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347003
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thanks I will check it out
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I've owned the Touchpad and now the Nook HD+, and have used both extensively. Firstly, the HD+ definitely has superior hardware to the TP. However I think that the 1080p display can sometimes push the HD+ to its limit. The TP's display is 1024x768, so it has to push much less pixels.
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Like I said its low resolution re-encodes... I tried all kinds of formats and resolutions....360p mp4s downloaded from youtube, 480p mkvs, 720p mkvs, avi's etc... all the same result...
My nook HD Plus plays all videos smoothly using either MX player or diceplayer. The H 264 codec is the best to use. I don't I know how it would play other codecs like windows video . I'm currently using carbon rom which runs very smoothly and quickly. I recommend that you load the video files to the internal storage and play them from there. Depending on how your SD card storage performs, your performance will vary playing from there.
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My nook HD Plus plays all videos smoothly using either MX player or diceplayer. The H 264 codec is the best to use. I don't I know how it would play other codecs like windows video . I'm currently using carbon rom which runs very smoothly and quickly. I recommend that you load the video files to the internal storage and play them from there. Depending on how your SD card storage performs, your performance will vary playing from there.
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I have tried all the "good" players (bsplayer, diceplayer, mx player) using various codecs/file types/resolutions/my own rips, DL rips and even downloaded youtube videos to get a varried range of stuff to try etc and am using the latest carbon rom (but I also side loaded the apps in the native nook stock OS and had the same poor video viewing results)... ive tried running them off the internal storage space and various 8GB class 2, 4 cards and 32GB class 4 and class 10 cards... all give the same choppy result dropping frames if I set it up that way or it goes out of sync if you dont set it up to drop frames to keep up...
but even then, PDFs are rendering noticeable slower than my CM9 Touchpad...
I guess something is wrong with my nook HD+...
ill have to try warranty claim or use my CC benefits to get it taken care of if B&N wont take it back... anyone have any experience with warranty and the nook HD+ or any advice....(I know ill have to return it back to stock and FYI I got it at the end of July at Office Max)
ira_est_a_donum said:
but even then, PDFs are rendering noticeable slower than my CM9 Touchpad...
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What are you using for pdf files? Try Adobe Reader, which I find is really smooth on the nook. Also make sure you turn on "force gpu rendering" in androids developer options (in settings) otherwise Adobe is a bit choppy.
PDFs demand a lot of CPU power and the 1920x1280 makes even more work of it.
I have a dell WQHD monitor bought to use, specifically with the note 9, but after I plugged the note 9 I found that I do not get the option for the WQHD, it is grayed out? is anyone able to get it to work? please help!
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I have a dell WQHD monitor bought to use, specifically with the note 9, but after I plugged the note 9 I found that I do not get the option for the WQHD, it is grayed out? is anyone able to get it to work? please help!
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Your monitor cannot handle the resolution.
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Your monitor cannot handle the resolution.
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the monitor resolution is 2560x1440, it handles the resolution. I am using the laptop on it with this resolution. The dex show the option for 2560x1440 but it is grayed out?
Same here, even though the monitor and cable is 4k/60Hz capable. Supposedly the Samsung dock and pad work in WQHD, so that would mean they are using a chip ID verification to make sure the 3rd party gear doesn't give full resolution. Just guessing though.
Same problem here... All cables used that came in the box, using a Sony Bravia XE90E.
That panel is well capable of all funky resolutions, certainly 1440p as well.
Mirroring works fine, but what good is mirroring worth really. Nobody bought a DEX Pad to just mirror.
I wondered this too few days ago when I first time tested it with a cheap adapter from Amazon. I also read somewhere that the highest resolution is only available with those "pad" device(s). Not a biggie for me, since the 2560x1440 doesn't scale nicely to a 4K monitor, but the lower FullHD resolution does. It is not like I'd be doing my main work with the phone anyway, but it is a "nice to have" in some random situation where I didn't drag my heavyweight laptop with me.
Would be nice if the resolution selection would give a clear text explaining why that choice is disabled, though.
I read somewhere that only the original samsung pad with the fan allows resolutions over full hd because going overheats the phone too much and damages it, I do not know if it's true or not though.
Well I'm using the official DEX Pad and still no luck. Go figure ?
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Glassed Silver said:
Well I'm using the official DEX Pad and still no luck. Go figure ?
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This dex pad ?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1ktcwIG3gL._SL1500_.jpg
babak said:
This dex pad ?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1ktcwIG3gL._SL1500_.jpg
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Yes, that one. There is just one DEX Pad afaik and I don't mean the DEX Station.
The latest update (about 1.5gb) got it working, at least via the dex pad.
I've got 3440 X 1440 matching my display
jesadac said:
The latest update (about 1.5gb) got it working, at least via the dex pad.
I've got 3440 X 1440 matching my display
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@jesadac Are you able to test with a regular cable, and see if the resolution support drops to FHD ? My cables work fine on a MacBook Pro for WQHD, but when connected to my Note 9 with latest version, won't go higher than FHD, even if everything supports it. I am trying to confirm that Samsung locked the higher resolution to their products.
They seem to have at least tried some partial locking, or it may be a technical reason (e.g. ability to drive higher bitrates in specific situations), or whatnot.
I managed to get the highest resolution with one 3rd party USB-C hub, but it allowed DEX mode only when that hub got external power (and thus also charged the phone). Another hub (claimed to support 4K) didn't give highest resolution even when it was also getting external power, so it is obviously a bit hit/miss..
EDIT: The better working hub shows mirrored screen without external power, at that 2560x1440 resolution. There are some random temporary screen artifacts with that hub, though, at least for a while after DEX gets turned on, and sometimes phone-hub-monitor protocols don't quite get it right, showing some really low resolution DEX view with a popup saying something about that too low resolution
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They seem to have at least tried some partial locking, or it may be a technical reason (e.g. ability to drive higher bitrates in specific situations), or whatnot.
I managed to get the highest resolution with one 3rd party USB-C hub, but it allowed DEX mode only when that hub got external power (and thus also charged the phone). Another hub (claimed to support 4K) didn't give highest resolution even when it was also getting external power, so it is obviously a bit hit/miss..
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Ah.... that's very good info. If a 3rd party can, then it's likely a capability support issue. I don't see why on earth a different device could display a higher res than the Note 9, when all is the same, except the source.
I'm ok in FHD on the monitor. While not as sharp, its workable. But on a 70" 4K TV, its so pixelated, it's not funny. I would pretty much like the higher resolution to make the movie playback and picture browsing a nicer experience when the out laws are in town.
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I'm ok in FHD on the monitor. While not as sharp, its workable. But on a 70" 4K TV, its so pixelated, it's not funny. I would pretty much like the higher resolution to make the movie playback and picture browsing a nicer experience when the out laws are in town.
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I actually prefer the FullHD on a 4K monitor, because otherwise non-integer scaling makes some things worse, at least for text. OTOH, movies and photos are indeed likely better with higher resolution even with non-integer scaling. I did use it at highest resolution on a 4K monitor for a while using 1:1 mode on the monitor, so that there was no scaling (but lots of black margin). I'd naturally prefer 1:1 at 2560x1440 to my older 2560x1600 monitor (so just a little black on top and bottom), but seems that the older monitor does not support the full resolution through its HDMI inputs or something
EDIT: Oh, and at work I connected the phone directly to 4K monitor with the monitor's included USB-C-to-USB-C cable, with keyboard and mouse connected to the monitor's USB ports, and phone being charged by the monitor through that cable. Everything worked just fine, but I'm not 100% sure did it allow the highest resolution.. I think it did.
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I actually prefer the FullHD on a 4K monitor, because the non-integer scaling makes some things worse, at least for text. OTOH, movies and photos are indeed likely better with higher resolution even with non-integer scaling. I did use it at highest resolution on a 4K monitor for a while using 1:1 mode on the monitor, so that there was no scaling (but lots of black margin). I'd naturally prefer 1:1 at 2560x1440 to my older 2560x1600 monitor (so just a little black on top and bottom), but seems that the older monitor does not support the full resolution through its HDMI inputs or something
EDIT: Oh, and at work I connected the phone directly to 4K monitor with the monitor's included USB-C-to-USB-C cable, with keyboard and mouse connected to the monitor's USB ports, and phone being charged by the monitor through that cable. Everything worked just fine, but I'm not 100% sure did it allow the highest resolution.. I think it did.
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Ah... bliss. That is the example of why I love USB type C so much now. A bunch of thunderbolt 3 rated cables is all I need really now. Likely hitting the menu can confirm the resolution. I like the wide resolution as its native on my monitors and TV (16:9 aka WQHD). I just ordered a DeX pad. I will sell the old dock if that works fine at the higher resolution. It's not bad and compact. I found a good price on Amazon, so it's not too bad in the end I guess. Pair it with a portable keyboard trackpad and I may leave that in the living room.
I'm using a third party USB-C hub that allows Dex to work on Galaxy S9 with and without external power. The thing is that my S9 only works at FHD while using the same setup with a Galaxy S8 allows for 2560x1440. It's frustrating. Sadly I can not provide detailed info about the TV set and the S8. If anyone has any suggestion on how to set up my S9 to allow higher res it would be much appreciated.
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@6thtry what 3rd party USB hub are you using?
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@6thtry what 3rd party USB hub are you using?
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Based on my Amazon order history, it was this:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07FRZCLGB/
Whether it is still the exact same hardware, who knows (sometimes these no-name things change technically without revealing it), but at least it is "Amazon's Choice" (pfft) and "Dispatched by Amazon", and seems to still get good ratings (and bad ones, too).
As it is such a no-name thing, it is totally up to random chance whether it can be found in other amazon sites or not. If no luck with direct name and model, then with some extra luck, one might find it by the exact same look (and possibly even exactly same photos) but with different brand.
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Based on my Amazon order history, it was this:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07FRZCLGB/
Whether it is still the exact same hardware, who knows (sometimes these no-name things change technically without revealing it), but at least it is "Amazon's Choice" (pfft) and "Dispatched by Amazon", and seems to still get good ratings (and bad ones, too).
As it is such a no-name thing, it is totally up to random chance whether it can be found in other amazon sites or not. If no luck with direct name and model, then with some extra luck, one might find it by the exact same look (and possibly even exactly same photos) but with different brand.
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@6thtry
Appreciate that. On Reddit/SamsungDex I'm trying to put together a list of non samsung hubs that give greater than 1080p resolution in dex mode.
If you remember, do you mind sharing what phone and monitor you were using with that hub and what resolution was selectable in dex mode?
Much appreciated.