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Should you still let battery drop to 0% with first use?

Hi,
The droid 3 is my first new mobile for 2 years.
People used to say that you have to let it drop to 0% 1st time usage, however I've also heard many saying it's a hoax or not applicable with newer batteries.
I can't remember whether to do it or not?
battery was around 40% when I turned it on 1st time.
Thanks

I have heard it said that if u run it dry and charge fully, it helps the software determine the battery level more accurately. Conversely, Li-ion batteries do not develop memory like nicads do so I don't think it would hurt you either way
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BTW looks like the charging system, is still that random motorola one.
Try to charge to about 60/70% and reboot the phone, often it will restart with the 100% value, sometimes the opposite happen.

The Solutor said:
BTW looks like the charging system, is still that random motorola one.
Try to charge to about 60/70% and reboot the phone, often it will restart with the 100% value, sometimes the opposite happen.
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Never seen that happen. I will say that when it says 100 percent fully charged, it could be as low as 91% since it doesnt continue to trickle charge when full. It just shuts the charge off until it gets down to 90 and then brings it back up. There was a good article on android police on this topic, but i cant seem to find it at the moment
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jon135 said:
Never seen that happen. I will say that when it says 100 percent fully charged, it could be as low as 91% since it doesnt continue to trickle charge when full. It just shuts the charge off until it gets down to 90 and then brings it back up.
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A similar beavior happened with MS1 (and was well known)
There was a good article on android police on this topic, but i cant seem to find it at the moment
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Sorry but this has nothing to do with the android policies, simply motorola has never learned to make good charging circuitry.

An article on the forums/website: androidpolice. Sorry should have been clearer
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possibly the same article you're refering to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
as for letting it completely die with your first use, it doesnt really matter either way

Fully charging takes more then 2 days??

Hello,
Since yesterday my phone needs more then 2 days to completely charge? Can this be ROM related or is my device damaged?
I'm running CM10.1 with stock kernel btw.
Thanks!

No it is not normal.
But which phone do you have. In here we discuss the normal s (I9000) and the s plus (I9001)

mrjraider said:
No it is not normal.
But which phone do you have. In here we discuss the normal s (I9000) and the s plus (I9001)
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Sorry, i have the I9001
Can this be kernel related or maybe also adapter related?

I believe it is battery related could you show the battery stats?

Ya i two have this kind of problem.. Can u guys tell me good chip battery for my i9000 ?
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The battery is new, only used for 2 weeks now and it's an oem Samsung battery

onnaj said:
The battery is new, only used for 2 weeks now and it's an oem Samsung battery
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Check your charger first. A corrupted/duplicate charger would take long enough time to charge the battery to 100%
If it's ok, Try to charge your battery in a similar device. If it charge properly, then the problem might be in hardware.
If it not charging properly in other device, it's time to change your battery..:fingers-crossed:

jabrif said:
Check your charger first. A corrupted/duplicate charger would take long enough time to charge the battery to 100%
If it's ok, Try to charge your battery in a similar device. If it charge properly, then the problem might be in hardware.
If it not charging properly in other device, it's time to change your battery..:fingers-crossed:
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I tried charging the old battery and that goes really fast. At least for me it's normal. It went from about 55% to 88% in 1,5-2 hours so happily it's not device related. Seems that the new battery isn't working properly. Or should i setup something to make my device recognize the new battery?

onnaj said:
I tried charging the old battery and that goes really fast. At least for me it's normal. It went from about 55% to 88% in 1,5-2 hours so happily it's not device related. Seems that the new battery isn't working properly. Or should i setup something to make my device recognize the new battery?
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nope, thats battery problem, android already has good battery management with.
try charging with display on n see 1% exchange in how many minute, if its takes more than 5 minutes, then its battery faulty.
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onnaj said:
I tried charging the old battery and that goes really fast. At least for me it's normal. It went from about 55% to 88% in 1,5-2 hours so happily it's not device related. Seems that the new battery isn't working properly. Or should i setup something to make my device recognize the new battery?
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There's nothing to setup for a new battery. Only just in first use you have to charge it continuously for about 2-3 hours to calibrate it with the device.
Try one thing, fully discharge the battery to 0% and charge it up to 100% continuously.(whatever time it takes) :fingers-crossed:
If it not helps, change the battery.
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compacity said:
nope, thats battery problem, android already has good battery management with.
try charging with display on n see 1% exchange in how many minute, if its takes more than 5 minutes, then its battery faulty.
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There's a doubt. If it's because of a faulty battery, the drain will also be worst na.? But he didn't mentioned it.

Power drain when turned off?!?

Hi all
A friend of mine have a 16GB Nexus 7 WiFi with a strange problem! The tablet is loosing battery juice very fast when completely off (Shut down)!
After I tested it: Charge to 100% and power off, 12 hours later when I power it on the batter is around 7x% !!! I made this test several times! We sent the tablet to an official ASUS repair center (the tablet is just 2 months old) and they presumably reconnected the battery connector! (loose connector according to them) They returned the device and the problem was the same! Sent the tablet again and this time they changed IO/FPC cable (whatever this is) but again the problem persist! Any ideas as to why this tablet behaves like this?
Any help on the matter will be greatly appreciated!

Bad battery
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Hate to ask, but did you even check the battery usage utility or anything like that?

Have you tried changing your charger? Although from what you said it may be a problem with the unit. Try flashing 4.2.2 if you are in 4.3

korockinout13 said:
Hate to ask, but did you even check the battery usage utility or anything like that?
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How do you check that with the phone turned off? Also it wont los anything when turned off.
When turned on the battery decreases faster?

Bad battery. Period.
Wait....or bad charger. Does it drain when its shutoff while plugged in? Or unplugged?
If it drains when off and unplugged ....bad battery.
If it drains when off and plugged in....bad battery or charger.
The end.
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Actually ....worse case....something is wrong with the tablet. Off is off. It should barely drain. If it is and the battery is ok....then unit is faulty.....and that I'd think would mean doom.
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nlabrad said:
How do you check that with the phone turned off? Also it wont los anything when turned off.
When turned on the battery decreases faster?
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Lol sorry, I misread the post. Well, it's possible that it's just reading it wrong. Does the percentage go back up over time once it's turned on again?

Your battery is defective mate, if you are under warranty then go ahead & get it replaced , I also had same issues then what i did I forced them(Asus) that I want replacement then they simply replaced it ...without any trouble ..I am from India ..here they don't waste time on repairing ,they changes part , if you go twise for RMA then 3rd time whole device gets replaced ...
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Similar problem
I am not sure what exactly caused this. But I had the similar problem with my Galaxy Nexus 7 / I replaced the battery with Zerolemon and I didnt get any problem afterward.
However check with manufacturer if there are any fix for this.
OrionBG said:
Hi all
A friend of mine have a 16GB Nexus 7 WiFi with a strange problem! The tablet is loosing battery juice very fast when completely off (Shut down)!
After I tested it: Charge to 100% and power off, 12 hours later when I power it on the batter is around 7x% !!! I made this test several times! We sent the tablet to an official ASUS repair center (the tablet is just 2 months old) and they presumably reconnected the battery connector! (loose connector according to them) They returned the device and the problem was the same! Sent the tablet again and this time they changed IO/FPC cable (whatever this is) but again the problem persist! Any ideas as to why this tablet behaves like this?
Any help on the matter will be greatly appreciated!
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Battery dies despite not being 0?

Hey guys, recently my phone has been turning off at around 15-20% battery remaining. Before it drop from 15% to 1% within a matter of 45 seconds and then die, but as of recently it has been turning off at 20% and then it goes into a bootloop until I plug it in again. I've a N910W8 and am on TEKXodus URv3.6R3. I can't take it in for warranty as the phone is (obviously) rooted. I've already tried the battery calibration app on Play Store and I'm going to try Poprocks rom and if that fails, I'm going to go back to stock LP and then try my luck at the Samsung Warranty Center. Any other suggestions would be great! Thanks!

I'm completely stock, never rooted. It's been dieing between 5-10% left. I think it's just lollipop.
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I agree with comment above. Same thing happened to me before since updated to Lollipop
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Add me to this. It'll be like at 15 then all of the sudden it dies. ****ing annoying.
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Just an update guys, I reverted back to stock (A0A1) 4.4.4 and then installed FireKat V13X Canadian Edition and my battery is no longer acting up. Definitely a Lollipop issue.

same thing for me. for older phones i remember having a recovery that let me reset the battery stats. i also noticed that when i charge it after it goes from above 10% to 0% and turning off, when i charge it, it would give me the percentage before it turned off. i almost thought it was a battery issue but i see from others its not. i dont leave the phone charging for long times and dont use the phone while charging.

I've been having battery problems lately too, the OEM one gets warm and does the sudden drop thing(went from 20 to 11% in an instant the other night), and even my Anker seems to drain much faster these days on both KK & LP. Neither Wakelock detector nor Gsam can find anything wrong, so I think maybe they're both just aging and need replacing :/

My stock Tmobile Note 4 was turning off at about 60%, then when I plugged in the OEM fast charger, the phone battery display came up at 0%. I called Tmobile and they sent me a new battery, problem gone now. I don't know how old your battery is, but it can also be an indication of a battery on its way out.
I'm on 5.0.1.

I never had it shut down at such a high indicated percentage, but on LP it would consistently shut off at 2-4%.
I went back to KK and it doesn't do that anymore.

I have the same problem. Anywhere from 10-30% the battery can die in an instant. Happened a couple of times while looking at the screen - the battery drops to zero in about 3 seconds. Wont boot up again until the charger is plugged in.
In my case I don't think its the software. Was working great for months - this is something that is steadily getting worse. I only noticed because I wasn't getting the battery level warnings at 15 and 5%, which I did used to get with the lollipop OS. Have ordered a new battery, hopefully this will do the trick.

Got new batteries
Update: I bought new batteries and so far so good. I think it was just an issue with the Samsung batteries. Went with Anker this time and everything seems to be good.

Just get a new battery. I had this same problem with the n6 until I got. Refurb
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Think it has something to do with kernel?
... lucky for you the battery is removable

Bruce lee roy said:
Think it has something to do with kernel?
... lucky for you the battery is removable
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no has nothing to do with the kernel, either its a calibration issue with your battery or you got a dud

Yes, I had the same. Bought new battery. Not yet sure if sudden drop is fixed since it now lives way longer and lasts through entire day and still has 40-50% left.
Drop will probably be fixed, too.
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rile1564 said:
I'm completely stock, never rooted. It's been dieing between 5-10% left. I think it's just lollipop.
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this happens to me to . but im on kitkat

its the same it happen after lollipop i guessing is the battery or lollipop i never had any problem with a samsung phone
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harristblack said:
this happens to me to . but im on kitkat
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so im guessing is the battery for us that have this problem

Definitely a battery. With new one I drove with google navigation for 3 hours, put total over 4 hours of screen time and still couldn't get it to 0. Went to bed when it still was 10% or so.
Pretty amazing after old battery which would barely last through the day and died after 15%
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Did battery replacement solve the problem for you guys? I'm having this issue for a few days now, and it can't be lollipop, I've upgraded months ago. Also, which replacement battery would be the best?

OK, this is some really weird behaviour. At 14% the "plug in your phone" warning sounds and it goes to power save mode. I rush to plug it in before it shut down. I plug it in on time, the "fast charge" message triggers. But, instead of charging, the battery goes down to 13%. 9%. I turn off the screen not to drain the power more and I wait for a few seconds. Turn on again, it's 4%. Turn off and wait some more. I turn on, and it's 1%. So I turn off again and wait, expecting it to shut down when it reaches 0%. It doesn't. I turn the screen back on again, and it's 3%. 5%. 12%. Charging normally. I don't get it why it went down to 1% before it started charging? And why the sudden power collapse only after the "battery low" message went off? It worked fine before that. If this is a battery issue, which is a hardware issue, why was it triggered by the software "battery low" message?

Charging Current not steady!

I have try with three chargers and 1 powerbank. When i use quickcharge the current measured in Ampere is not steady, it can go from 800mah to 3400mah and this is not good at all for the battery. Can someone check if they are having the same problem?
Thank you in advance!

Today i was charging my device witv a quicharge powerbank and it doesn't quickcharge at all and charge until 80%, and stop charging and start heating bad, i was slepping and wake up because of the heat. Is a problem with my device or it is common?

use original charger. i dont face any of these issues

noman00771 said:
use original charger. i dont face any of these issues
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As i said i have try with a lot or charger, the original one included. Have you monitored the current? Also sometines it start conecting and disconecting or it get stuck at 80% and start heating up. It seems it only happen with quickcharge, if i use a normal one i don't have this problem.
Thank you very much for your help!

There is no one kind enougth to download ampere and test this???. It can take at most 5 minutes....

I tested and it goes from 1660 mA to 4050mA, the most time it spends on 3200-3600mA
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artifex21 said:
I tested and it goes from 1660 mA to 4050mA, the most time it spends on 3200-3600mA
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Thank you very much! I really apreciate this. Now i know it is not a problem with my phone but a bug from the software. Can i ask wich charger did you use?

Original charger that came with the phone
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The phone doesn't charge in full throttle while the display is turned on. So most of the time i charge with the display off. Keep it on and it will switch to 500 mah. Or max I have got with original charger and cable is 2500 mah

Tommylee567 said:
The phone doesn't charge in full throttle while the display is turned on. So most of the time i charge with the display off. Keep it on and it will switch to 500 mah. Or max I have got with original charger and cable is 2500 mah
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The problem is not that, the problem is that it fluctuates heavy, like in 10 seconds it goes up and down and it is not temperature related. With the screen turned off is the same, you can check. Also with some charges it doesn't even charge or stop charging from no where. It isn't ok by any means. Sometimes it even stop charing at 80% at stay heating up!
Can you confirm with ampere is yours is fluctuating like that too??? It will be nice to confirm that is in all the models.

NahuelMS said:
The problem is not that, the problem is that it fluctuates heavy, like in 10 seconds it goes up and down and it is not temperature related. With the screen turned off is the same, you can check. Also with some charges it doesn't even charge or stop charging from no where. It isn't ok by any means. Sometimes it even stop charing at 80% at stay heating up!
Can you confirm with ampere is yours is fluctuating like that too??? It will be nice to confirm that is in all the models.
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Oh like that, ok my phone is at 3%, let it die after some time then i will charge and see with Ampere
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Ok i have done a recording of the Ampere charging
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FhitxyAGuCHgDggw7
Added a pic when battery at 67%, 88% and 90%
At 100% it is 200 mah charging. Which should not at all

Tommylee567 said:
Oh like that, ok my phone is at 3%, let it die after some time then i will charge and see with Ampere
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Ok i have done a recording of the Ampere charging
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FhitxyAGuCHgDggw7
Added a pic when battery at 67%, 88% and 90%
At 100% it is 200 mah charging. Which should not at all
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Thank you very very very much. In your phone the current fluctuates but not that heavy, i will say that it is inside the normal parameters, like from 2900-3050. Anyway it should be able to charge a little more, like 3400mah. The problem at 95% is present at mine too. It charges really slow but it is normal, for security reasons.
So now i don't know, maybe my phone charging circuit is ****ed up or something .

It just fluctuates little that's not a problem.
But if it keeps jumping big levels then why not try with a different USB cable and see?
EDIT: Sorry just now I saw your first post. So it seems something else is wrong. I'm using the Nokia provided charger and USB and have been getting this much since the day I owned it. I think I would have seen 3500 in Oreo and now in Pie it seems to be pushing high current until about 80%. So not sure if it is just hardware only or software only problem on your phone.

Tommylee567 said:
It just fluctuates little that's not a problem.
But if it keeps jumping big levels then why not try with a different USB cable and see?
EDIT: Sorry just now I saw your first post. So it seems something else is wrong. I'm using the Nokia provided charger and USB and have been getting this much since the day I owned it. I think I would have seen 3500 in Oreo and now in Pie it seems to be pushing high current until about 80%. So not sure if it is just hardware only or software only problem on your phone.
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I have tried with different cables and chargers, also i think the problem is not the usb-c port. Maybe the charge system is ****ed up or maybe something in the battery. Sometimes it is more steady but sometimes it start jumping from 1000ma to 3500ma and start going lower again. For example after 60% it charges steady at 1840mah like nothing. So i am not sure what is the real problem. Thank you for sharing!

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I have tried with different cables and chargers, also i think the problem is not the usb-c port. Maybe the charge system is ****ed up or maybe something in the battery. Sometimes it is more steady but sometimes it start jumping from 1000ma to 3500ma and start going lower again. For example after 60% it charges steady at 1840mah like nothing. So i am not sure what is the real problem. Thank you for sharing!
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Thanks for your confirmation. Hope you can get it serviced soon!
Seeing your situation it isn't normal I think you need to fix it asap All the best!

Tommylee567 said:
Thanks for your confirmation. Hope you can get it serviced soon!
Seeing your situation it isn't normal I think you need to fix it asap All the best!
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I can't, i am travelling and will not go back to the country were i bougth it. Anyway i know i am not the only one with this kind of problem, is a common problem it seems... Thank you for your help!