Verizon contract is up in a couple weeks so I'm jumping to T-Mobile (costs less) and getting the Nexus 6. I just have a few questions.
Are there any weird quirks with the phone? Anything I won't find out by playing with the phone in store for 10 minutes? Is the phone as powerful as the specs say it is?
I saw some of the older battery life charts in the other thread and they aren't terrible. Is battery life still decent? I'm looking for 4-5+ hours of screen-on time ideally.
Does the "quick charger" that comes with it work well?
Tl;dr Do you recommend the phone?
It's a loaded post, which is why a lot of views, but nary a reply.
However ....
Your title to me is better than jumping on a N6, which could be disastrous to the phone.
If you have looked over the threads, you'll get varying opinions, and mostly IMO it depends on two things:
What they had/came from
What they expect out of the N6.
I will only speak for myself; I came from a VZ GNex I hung onto for 3 years - anything I may have gone to would be a worthy HW upgrade, however I want to tweak my phone when I'm ready to, and that means a Nexus.
I love the phone, it was a bit of a letdown, as I was already running 5.0 on my GNex, so the experience was to a larger, faster smoother phone than what I had. Other than that, I'm loving every minute of having it, plain and simple.
I have one other person who transitioned to one, and he loves it as well.
I'm not going to tell you to get it, you have to go play with it and decide for yourself.
To your specific questions:
quirks - no more so than any other phone, I haven't found any yet myself - most who post I think have to do with not knowing what they set in Lollipop, I've already had it for a bit, so I'm used to it.
Yup, its fast and powerful, whether or not you decide to go unencrypted is up to you, which goes to what you had and what you expect - are you going to unlock root, mod? You can enjoy this phone for quite a bit of time before maybe even needing a reason to go mod it.
Personally, I haven't yet, nor have a lot of members here (check the what rom are you running on VZ thread) because again, I haven't (other than wanting to change my softkeys) had a good reason (to me) to invest the time to do it.
I'm sure it will happen, but not right now. right now I'm just enjoying the hell out of having it.
Batt time is always subjective, whether or not we care to admit it. No two devices are going to run the same, have the same app load outs, some have different memory it appears, and some may actually (gasp) have a bad batt on arrival.
Mine has ran terrific (remember again - what I had and what I expect), and the QC runs great to recharge if need be. I can say that I love not worrying about the batt right now on it daily, but that's for me and my usage.
Battery is fine and its quick. The fast charger works well. I'm not really a fan of them but its what it comes with. I came from a m8 which was a nice device but I like this one better.
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Tl;dr Do you recommend the phone?
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My wife and I jumped from Sprint to T-Mobile, handing off our Evo 4G's when the Nexus 6 was released, and wouldn't look back. The Nexus 6 has been nothing short of awesome... the camera, speed, screen, everything - is awesome. We keep ours in thick iBlason "Armorbox" cases, and still enjoy our QI charging (I'm unsure how QI isn't a requirement in modern phones these days!). A lot of friends complained about the size, but those that got it anyway, ended up "getting over it" and now won't go back to the smaller screens, heh! It still fits nicely in my (male) jean pockets -- with the large case -- but you'd be hard-pressed to get it safely in female pockets (sorry ladies... you're not allowed to put stuff in the pockets!).
Quirks: one big thing jumped out at me, but isn't a big deal for most. The phone does have built-in RGB LEDs that sit underneath the top speaker, yet, they chose to block access to this functionality. I guess they reused the underlying board but didn't want the LEDs, but nonetheless, they are invaluable to me: I enjoy knowing if I have something waiting for me *without* having to look at the screen - whether while in bed, sitting on the desk, riding the bike, etc.! The plus, you can get at these LEDs if you're rooted. So... if that's possibly desirable to you, I'd recommend unlocking the phone as soon as you get it, so you can avoid the data wipe down the road. The Lightflow app can handle them quite well (though I believe it requires the "Pro" version, for a couple bucks). ...and as of now, the LEDs are "on or off" - no flashing... but hey, I'll take what I can get!
Oh, and not really related to the phone itself, but a Google-Nexus 6 quirk -- quite annoying at the time, for me -- Google's "My Tracks" app was broken for awhile (unable to acquire the GPS signal). There are a gazillion alternatives out there, but I'd been a long-time daily user of the app, and Google broke it!...for months. It was disappointing that they would break core app functionality on their *current* flagship device, for their own app, and choose to ignore it for such a long time. I think the 5.1 update fixed whatever problem they had, but that was a pet peeve.. On the plus side, I've enjoyed the feature-rich alternatives that I was forced to explore, ha!
We haven't messed with de-crypting ourselves, as the phones are super-duper-fast as-is, but we love them. These are our introduction to the Nexus world, and we love the fact that they no-bars-hold permit unlocking, and that the updates are, of course, front line.
Tl;dr I highly recommend the phone! Phone size is the only recurring complaint among friends.
Thank you everyone for the replies. Yes, battery life is subjective ...so long as most of the reviews say the battery is good enough, that's all I care about. First-hand reviews from users are always the best because I know everyone isn't just trying to sell me a phone . As far as the LEDs being unusable when not rooted, that isn't a big deal for me. My current phone (Razr Maxx HD, xt926 verizon) has the LEDs and fantastic battery life through various mods, but is simply not cutting it anymore for what I need. I've never heard of the My Tracks app, so I guess it's a good thing since I didn't know it was broken lol.
This will be my first Nexus phone... I have the Nexus 7 (2012) tablet that is currently running CM12 nightlies, so I'm familiar with the "Nexus experience" and Lollipop already. I like it quite a bit, but it did take a little getting used to. I was very much planning on unlocking and rooting the N6 immediately, but I'll play with it a bit and enjoy the stock experience first.
@vormund Do you like T-Mobile, now that you switched from Sprint?
@RW-1 Can you explain the encryption you're talking about a little more? This is the first I've heard of it.
Again, thanks everyone for the replies. I'm pretty much sold on the phone at this point.
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Thank you everyone for the replies. Yes, battery life is subjective ...so long as most of the reviews say the battery is good enough, that's all I care about. First-hand reviews from users are always the best because I know everyone isn't just trying to sell me a phone . As far as the LEDs being unusable when not rooted, that isn't a big deal for me. My current phone (Razr Maxx HD, xt926 verizon) has the LEDs and fantastic battery life through various mods, but is simply not cutting it anymore for what I need. I've never heard of the My Tracks app, so I guess it's a good thing since I didn't know it was broken lol.
This will be my first Nexus phone... I have the Nexus 7 (2012) tablet that is currently running CM12 nightlies, so I'm familiar with the "Nexus experience" and Lollipop already. I like it quite a bit, but it did take a little getting used to. I was very much planning on unlocking and rooting the N6 immediately, but I'll play with it a bit and enjoy the stock experience first.
@vormund Do you like T-Mobile, now that you switched from Sprint?
@RW-1 Can you explain the encryption you're talking about a little more? This is the first I've heard of it.
Again, thanks everyone for the replies. I'm pretty much sold on the phone at this point.
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I am currently using MeanPop 2.11 on my Nexus 6 and it has a blinking LED light for notifications, a blinking red light for while your phone is charging and a green light for when the device is fully charged. I had the phone a couple of hours tops before I rooted it, so I can't really provide an opinion on the device out of the box. My brother is using a non-rooted Nexus 6 and he loves it as well. We both came from the Note Edge, but enjoy the Nexus 6 more than any device we have used up to this point. Out of the box, the device is encrypted (which some people have stated that their performance suffered compared to being unencrypted). You can easily unlock the phone and decrypt it. There is a solid guide for this in the development section. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me or ask them here and I'll assist where I can.
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I am currently using MeanPop 2.11 on my Nexus 6 and it has a blinking LED light for notifications, a blinking red light for while your phone is charging and a green light for when the device is fully charged. I had the phone a couple of hours tops before I rooted it, so I can't really provide an opinion on the device out of the box. My brother is using a non-rooted Nexus 6 and he loves it as well. We both came from the Note Edge, but enjoy the Nexus 6 more than any device we have used up to this point. Out of the box, the device is encrypted (which some people have stated that their performance suffered compared to being unencrypted). You can easily unlock the phone and decrypt it. There is a solid guide for this in the development section. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me or ask them here and I'll assist where I can.
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That solves the LED issue. I will probably decrypt the device since I don't know why I would need it encrypted. Thank you. I will definitely message you with any questions, but I won't have the phone until closer to the end of April (24th or so), so it will be a bit yet. I'm just glad the phone is shaping up to be as great as I am expecting it to be.
Out of curiosity, what are the benefits of leaving the phone encrypted?
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@vormund Do you like T-Mobile, now that you switched from Sprint?
@RW-1 Can you explain the encryption you're talking about a little more? This is the first I've heard of it..
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T-Mobile has been equal-to-or-better than Sprint in Tucson, AZ... their customer service is dreadful (store reps are absolutely useless), but if you're persistent, you usually come out alright - which I'm happy to do with the difference in cost (+$10 to join my sister's plan versus $30+ for Sprint's split... among the other (contract, discount, etc.) considerations! Data is hit-or-miss on the outskirts of the city, but so is Sprint (and ATT)...Verizon seems to have solid service out there, though...(then again, you pay for it!)...
Data speeds are almost always slower when compared to Verizon (a friend with Verizon did some speed tests with me...we're both usually LTE, but he'd consistently get 3-4x faster speeds...this probably varies greatly by locale and their networks), but it's sufficient for me. If you're one to watch Netflix or download a ton, it'll probably be quite the downgrade.. but me - I'm on wireless for any big data usage, so network-wise, I'm just mapping, a little music streaming, geo tracking and such.
Encryption: For the extra paranoid or those with ultra-sensitive information on their phones, perhaps?
I suspect it would make things a little more difficult for law enforcement, too... depending on backdoors and such? Actually, yeah, that looks to be the case!
After seeing the speed comparisons, I'd definitely switch over now, even though the phone is fast-as-can-be as it is, ha. One of these days maybe... but for now, it's a few more minutes in a already-crazy day.
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I am currently using MeanPop 2.11 on my Nexus 6 and it has a blinking LED light for notifications...
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Thanks great to know, thanks for the info! +1 for a custom ROM. I think the reason Lightflow can't do it directly - with rooted stock - as it'd have to keep the phone awake. There well may be ways around that by now... I just wish they'd enable direct access without (there's just no good reason to take away a hardware feature... disabled by default, but come on! ).
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T-Mobile has been equal-to-or-better than Sprint in Tucson, AZ... their customer service is dreadful (store reps are absolutely useless), but if you're persistent, you usually come out alright - which I'm happy to do with the difference in cost (+$10 to join my sister's plan versus $30+ for Sprint's split... among the other (contract, discount, etc.) considerations! Data is hit-or-miss on the outskirts of the city, but so is Sprint (and ATT)...Verizon seems to have solid service out there, though...(then again, you pay for it!)...
Data speeds are almost always slower when compared to Verizon (a friend with Verizon did some speed tests with me...we're both usually LTE, but he'd consistently get 3-4x faster speeds...this probably varies greatly by locale and their networks), but it's sufficient for me. If you're one to watch Netflix or download a ton, it'll probably be quite the downgrade.. but me - I'm on wireless for any big data usage, so network-wise, I'm just mapping, a little music streaming, geo tracking and such.
Encryption: For the extra paranoid or those with ultra-sensitive information on their phones, perhaps?
I suspect it would make things a little more difficult for law enforcement, too... depending on backdoors and such? Actually, yeah, that looks to be the case!
After seeing the speed comparisons, I'd definitely switch over now, even though the phone is fast-as-can-be as it is, ha. One of these days maybe... but for now, it's a few more minutes in a already-crazy day.
Thanks great to know, thanks for the info! +1 for a custom ROM. I think the reason Lightflow can't do it directly - with rooted stock - as it'd have to keep the phone awake. There well may be ways around that by now... I just wish they'd enable direct access without (there's just no good reason to take away a hardware feature... disabled by default, but come on! ).
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A wakelock is triggered with the flashing LED even in the custom Rom (burns 1-2% per hour that the LED is flashing). It's definitely worth having though. The ROM is solid and I haven't had a single issue with it yet.
After reading the benchmarking for encryption vs decryption, I'm definitely decrypting the phone when I get it. I'm not overly worried about the LEDs (does seem weird though that it's not like all of the other android phones I've had, where they just work, regardless of ROM). I'm in the middle of the East Coast where (according to coverage maps) 4G is more available, so I'll definitely run some speed tests and see how T-mobile's data speeds stack up on this side of the country. I really just need a fast browser with good, stable internet speeds. I won't complain if it's faster than 3G.
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So I started my android life with a G1, then eventually got a Mytouch. Now I am considering getting a Nexus one, I have the money saved up but I am not 100% sure... I want some experienced users (mainly the people who's root) and tell me, does the battery last good? And are you truly happy with it? Because I can't make up my mind rather to get the Nexus, or the Droid..Or some other new android phones coming to t-mobile soon..(rumors)
But then again I hate the fact that every time I buy a phone a new one comes out.. lol.
Side note: If anyone is selling a nexus, let me know.
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So I started my android life with a G1, then eventually got a Mytouch. Now I am considering getting a Nexus one, I have the money saved up but I am not 100% sure... I want some experienced users (mainly the people who's root) and tell me, does the battery last good? And are you truly happy with it? Because I can't make up my mind rather to get the Nexus, or the Droid..Or some other new android phones coming to t-mobile soon..(rumors)
But then again I hate the fact that every time I buy a phone a new one comes out.. lol.
Side note: If anyone is selling a nexus, let me know.
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Tough situation. You have to realize that at some point, the trigger has to be pulled and when it is, another device will be coming out. That is just how it works. Look at Apple users...they buy a laptop to find out 6 months later something even better is arriving. Technology never waits, so when you want something, jump on it.
If you are on T-Mobile, you can look at the Desire. If you are interested in Verizon, the Incredible is landing soon which is basically a Desire with a boost.
The Nexus is a very open platform with amazing community support and having owned two, I regret nothing. This phone is amazing.
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Tough situation. You have to realize that at some point, the trigger has to be pulled and when it is, another device will be coming out. That is just how it works. Look at Apple users...they buy a laptop to find out 6 months later something even better is arriving. Technology never waits, so when you want something, jump on it.
If you are on T-Mobile, you can look at the Desire. If you are interested in Verizon, the Incredible is landing soon which is basically a Desire with a boost.
The Nexus is a very open platform with amazing community support and having owned two, I regret nothing. This phone is amazing.
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+infinity!!!!
I have good battery life now with some setting changes in custom rom I run. I have the extended battery so the feeling is comfortable for 1 hand texting. I still have and toy with my G1 but when I leave the house the I have the N1. I wouldn't trade my N1 for any phone out. It took me a few days to get adjusted to not having the physical keyboard but the size of the screen really make it easy. I just didn't get it when I had a mytouch. These are just a few of my options.
Definitely get a Nexus. Like deprecate said, technology will keep moving. You just gotta take the plunge. Battery life has been decent for me but that is most probably cause mine is still a brand new battery. Once it's broken in a little, it should be good.
The processor is ridiculously amazing. Things just work, and work very fast. Trust me, once you use the Nexus for a day and try to go back to G1/Dream, you will wonder how you lived all this time. The HTC Desire Rom for Nexus is actually very good if you like Sense. It also has Flash Player Lite if you're into that. Cyan's Rom, of course, gets better all the time. Honestly there aren't a lot of Rom options yet but that's because there isn't very much that could be improved at this point. Everything just works.
All in all, I say go for it.
the desire seems ok, idk I really might get a nexus I just don't want the battery to suck for a $500+ phone.
Well you gotta be reasonable. It has a 1ghz processor. The thing is gonna be a bit of a juice monkey no matter what. There are undervolted kernels available that help with battery life though.
After a month playing with my rooted N1 (previously had a iphone 3g) i can only say: Wow, this beast is fast. You can multi-task, load custom ROMs, browse fast and soon we will have flash support. Battery life is accetable, so great performance with a so thin design is acceptable. And android is a powerfull and flexible OS. Im very happy with my nexus1.
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I went through the same thought process as well before buying my Nexus One. The thing that really sold me was the fact that I have a few friends with Android phones and they all seem pretty frustrated that they see all these new Android releases coming out and their phones remain stuck at 1.5. Since the N1 is Google's showcase phone it's pretty much a given that it will always get timely updates to the latest version of Android. I don't think you can say the same for ANY other Android phone (a lot even have boot loaders that can't be unlocked like the Milestone and Rogers HTC Magic) and I doubt any that might come out in the next few months will be that lucky either. Plus this thing is just mind blowing fast.
I came from an iPhone 3G so initially I was slightly disappointed with the touchscreen (it doesn't reject spurious input from fingers and palms that might wrap around the phone) and the less than stellar reception. Every time I put my hand on lower part of the phone and see 2-3 bars of reception disappear I feel shame.
Coming from a Magic I doubt I would ever notice this because these problems exist in those phones too as I believe it uses the same touchscreen and the radio placement is identical.
As for battery life, I actually get pretty good life now that my usage has settled down.
For the Battery if you run one of the UV kernels as well as setcpu with profiles. Also do some of the main things you do with your Mytouch like turn off wifi, GPS, screen brightness to low, only use 3G when you need it other wise leave it on Edge, as well as the many other battery saving ideas. You should should get great battery life. I can go about 16 hours of ok usage and have about 50 to 60% battery life left. Check my Sig for what i am running. Over all i paid full price for my N1 and i am love with phone in every way.
....and I'm going back to my n5. The g3 is a nice phone but it didn't blow me out of the water and wasn't the clear step up from the n5 that I thought it would be. The g3 isn't much faster for most things and not as fast for some, the camera was good but I've never had a complaint about the n5's camera, and the screen really wasn't better at all. In fact, side by side I preferred my n5's screen, especially when using auto brightness. At full bright there was a slight advantage to the g3 but in normal use it's just a bigger nexus. All that qhd media talk seems to be mostly just that, talk. I really wish instead of the qhd they would have spent time on making it waterproof and maybe metal, or at least a little better feeling than it is.
I'm sure many will say the g3 is way better, in fact there's a thread in the g3 section about switching from this to that. If you are thinking of upgrading I won't say don't do it, but make the change with realistic expectations.
I'm in the same boat. Had the G3 and went back to the nexus. Can't do bloatware. Can't handle slow updates. And don't want to root and ROM. I wasn't really impressed with the battery life. Didn't really like how slippery the phone was. Plus 600 dollars for the G3 is a big turn off. Not worth it IMO.
I will say this about the Tmo g3, it's easy to root at least, but there are exactly 2 roms for it right now. You can use xposed to add some tweaks but then you can't use art. A lot of lg's apps, like the health app, force you to use their home launcher.
I also got a G3, but I love the nexus more. The G3 is like a advance version of N5 with bloatware.
there are somethings really interesting:
1. I got a 40MHz 2.4G wifi which only the N5 can connect without problem, the G3 and Nexus 7 both have problem (5G is ok)
2. the G3 is really easy to overheat, when I charge the G3 a while, it say I can't get 100% brightness (which it lock down to 80%) due to overheat, but I am not using it at all.
Ok guys, let me start with... I love my N5. BUT... coming from a Note 2 I felt like I gave away lots of things that I really was pampered with. When I first got my N7, the first thing that crossed my mind was "If they made a device with the same design, I would love it" and then the N5 was born. I was one the ones that stayed pressing REFRESH for a long time, a very long time until my order went through. I got my device and was happy for about 11 minutes, then I started seeing the compromises I have made. But don't get me wrong, I still love it and enjoy it very much.
My first complain about it was the obvious and what I had already made peace with, like MicroSD and gigantic battery, then! I found out that USB-OTG is not supported OTB and I have to install additional apps to make it work, the gallery app is nothing compared to what I was used to, and the there was little things here and there that makes the relationship between the device and me more of a love and hate thing. As soon as I saw the G3, was like a breath of fresh air. Getting back the size 5.5", MicroSD, USB-OTG, battery and all the other pluses that comes with it. The G3 is my new toy and companion but N5 will always have a spot in my heart, I always hated myself for not getting the GNEX and as soon as the SG3 came out, I jumped on it and got it. this time around I'm glad I got the N5 and have the amazing experience but its time for me to move on, who knows! maybe if the next Nexus have all this features that I can't seem to live without, maybe in a few months, but for now... The time has come.
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Ok guys, let me start with... I love my N5. BUT... coming from a Note 2 I felt like I gave away lots of things that I really was pampered with. When I first got my N7, the first thing that crossed my mind was "If they made a device with the same design, I would love it" and then the N5 was born. I was one the ones that stayed pressing REFRESH for a long time, a very long time until my order went through. I got my device and was happy for about 11 minutes, then I started seeing the compromises I have made. But don't get me wrong, I still love it and enjoy it very much.
My first complain about it was the obvious and what I had already made peace with, like MicroSD and gigantic battery, then! I found out that USB-OTG is not supported OTB and I have to install additional apps to make it work, the gallery app is nothing compared to what I was used to, and the there was little things here and there that makes the relationship between the device and me more of a love and hate thing. As soon as I saw the G3, was like a breath of fresh air. Getting back the size 5.5", MicroSD, USB-OTG, battery and all the other pluses that comes with it. The G3 is my new toy and companion but N5 will always have a spot in my heart, I always hated myself for not getting the GNEX and as soon as the SG3 came out, I jumped on it and got it. this time around I'm glad I got the N5 and have the amazing experience but its time for me to move on, who knows! maybe if the next Nexus have all this features that I can't seem to live without, maybe in a few months, but for now... The time has come.
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This is what exactly when I try to explain the different of Nexus and other flagship smartphone.
If you want a sport car and you can afford the money, you can buy a Ferrari, you don't need to do anything and it already very fast, with nearly all things you need, with a great complete experience.
Or you can get a subaru/civic type-r (or anything cheap), spend your time to custom it to make it run fast and add options you need.
Tastes differ.
The only Tmo store near me has consistently been terrible, I don't know why, maybe it is the manager but the employees ae generally terrible and today when I took the g3 back was no different. The guy asked me why I didn't like the g3, I explained my reasons as above and he just kept pushing.
He tried to tell me how out dated and slow the nexus was and how the software was exactly the same etc etc, I didn't bother tryi to argue with him but it seemed like he'd never rooted a phone and he definitely had never used the n5. His last sentence might have been true, he told me I should have used it for a few weeks before returning it and I would never miss the n5.
Only problem with that is I only have a 14 day return period and I'd be away during the last few days. Anyhow, I'm back to my nexus. Maybe the n6 will be great and convince me to switch, until then none of the other top line phones have what they need to make them worth switching, for me at least.
Yeah I'm waiting on the n6 but love my n5 tho an uber kernel is da bomb
I was tempted by G3. I stuck with my N5 and just picked up a 1+. I was bedazzled by the boxing/packaging of the 1+ and its new factor. I made it a day on CM and switched to Mahdi ROM. I would love to try L on it. I do not have big hands....enter joke here, and miss how my N5 felt in my hand. I don't think the G3 would sit as nicely as my N5 does. I have a GN2 that I use as backup and 1+ is way better. I will probably use 1+ as my new backup and stick with my N5.
Here's a pretty good read: http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-two-months
I thought the G3 would have been much better (screen wise). Seems most are let down by it. Ended out getting the nexus 5 thinking I would be disappointed... Boy was I wrong... What a beautiful device.
Whilst I find all the n5 love reassuring I'd kill all my relatives for a G3!
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Whilst I find all the n5 love reassuring I'd kill all my relatives for a G3!
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Best thing I've read all day.
It will dawn on people, I hope, that phones have plateaued as far as doing stuff. We don't need quad hd,etc. They play games movies etc grt. The N5 with kk is the embodiment of this. The next change won't be until 64 bit~6gig ram ~ true pocket computers we will walk away from the desk and pick up to take with us. Until then change is just to sell new models we don't really need. The device that I mention is on the way, until then I'd only update for practical reasons, faults etc. When we have L on the n5 properly that will give it a shot in the arm.
I have both phones and they exist for very different markets. Did you guys ever stop to notice that the N5 didn't have a single ad? It just isn't for a normal consumer. The nexus 5 was designed for messing around with software and debugging for devs. Whereas the G3 is just for average people who want a bit of power and battery life to go along with it. If I was a general consumer I'd hate the N5 due to its poor battery life, speakers and camera and would never buy it. Whereas the G3 has a solid camera and battery life. Two things that mainstream consumers care about.
All Nexus lines since the Nexus S were sold as mainstream phones by the carriers here.
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I have both phones and they exist for very different markets. Did you guys ever stop to notice that the N5 didn't have a single ad? It just isn't for a normal consumer. The nexus 5 was designed for messing around with software and debugging for devs. Whereas the G3 is just for average people who want a bit of power and battery life to go along with it. If I was a general consumer I'd hate the N5 due to its poor battery life, speakers and camera and would never buy it. Whereas the G3 has a solid camera and battery life. Two things that mainstream consumers care about.
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I saw a TV advert for the Nexus 5 when it was being released. But the LG G3 adverts (still) have a lot of presence right now (more than the N5 did).
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now what I'm interested in, is the Xiaomi Mi-4
http://www.xiaomiworld.com/xiaomi-mi4.html
looks nicer than the G3.
like the G3 though. would take it for the screen, 3AH battery, 3GB RAM, but $, and don't need anything better than the nexus. Plus I have already invested in Qi charging mats all over so I expect I'll want one that supports that in the future. Edit: oh looks like it supports qi
Oh and the 2k display no thanks. I don't want that. Angry. From an engineering POV, I hate this phone because they went for that. wasn't need, Wastes power.
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now what I'm interested in, is the Xiaomi Mi-4
http://www.xiaomiworld.com/xiaomi-mi4.html
looks nicer than the G3.
like the G3 though. would take it for the screen, 3AH battery, 3GB RAM, but $, and don't need anything better than the nexus. Plus I have already invested in Qi charging mats all over so I expect I'll want one that supports that in the future. Edit: oh looks like it supports qi
Oh and the 2k display no thanks. I don't want that. Angry. From an engineering POV, I hate this phone because they went for that. wasn't need, Wastes power.
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They also send data like imei number n contacts to their home servers WITHOUT consent...more than enuf for me to stay away from these chinese manufacturers..
First checked by some website n nw confirmed by fsecure ...
Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase this phone for my girlfriend (she is still using the droid incredible 4g lte)! I just had a couple questions that I'd very much appreciate if I could get some insight on:
1. Is the claim for 48 hours of battery life valid?
2. Has a software update been released to allow data and voice simultaneously yet? (This is a make or break)
3. Overall, how do you guys like the phone from a performance perspective i.e. speed of opening apps etc.?
4. Anything I should know such as little annoyances or nuances currently?
Thanks guys I really appreciate it!
pettigrew95 said:
Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase this phone for my girlfriend (she is still using the droid incredible 4g lte)! I just had a couple questions that I'd very much appreciate if I could get some insight on:
1. Is the claim for 48 hours of battery life valid?
2. Has a software update been released to allow data and voice simultaneously yet? (This is a make or break)
3. Overall, how do you guys like the phone from a performance perspective i.e. speed of opening apps etc.?
4. Anything I should know such as little annoyances or nuances currently?
Thanks guys I really appreciate it!
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I'll answer the first three (from my perspective, of course). The fourth is going to be up to you in looking at the other threads - lots of positives and negatives depending on your perspective.
1) The 48 hours of battery life is definitely NOT VALID. Of course this is completely dependent on your usage. That said, I am a very heavy user and I am getting considerably more than a full day. I usually pull the device off the charger at about 3:00am (don't judge me - I get up that early to hit the gym). When I plug it back in at about 9:00pm I am at about 25% remaining. That is 75% in 18 hours, which I am VERY happy with.
2) The Volte software update has not yet been released. Also, keep in mind that when it is released by Moto/Verizon, it will only work in Volte areas (but you probably already knew that).
3) The performance of this phone (again from my perspective) is absolutely incredible. Now if one of the really smart devs (I'm talking to you @jcase) actually figures out how to root this device, then this will be THE device of the year! Again, from my perspective.
Hope this helps!
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I'll answer the first three (from my perspective, of course). The fourth is going to be up to you in looking at the other threads - lots of positives and negatives depending on your perspective.
1) The 48 hours of battery life is definitely NOT VALID. Of course this is completely dependent on your usage. That said, I am a very heavy user and I am getting considerably more than a full day. I usually pull the device off the charger at about 3:00am (don't judge me - I get up that early to hit the gym). When I plug it back in at about 9:00pm I am at about 25% remaining. That is 75% in 18 hours, which I am VERY happy with.
2) The Volte software update has not yet been released. Also, keep in mind that when it is released by Moto/Verizon, it will only work in Volte areas (but you probably already knew that).
3) The performance of this phone (again from my perspective) is absolutely incredible. Now if one of the really smart devs (I'm talking to you @jcase) actually figures out how to root this device, then this will be THE device of the year! Again, from my perspective.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the reply! In reference to question 2 my girlfriend and I live in north NJ 20 minutes outside of NYC so I think we're good on VoLTE coverage. Is there any word on when the software update is coming out?
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Thanks for the reply! In reference to question 2 my girlfriend and I live in north NJ 20 minutes outside of NYC so I think we're good on VoLTE coverage. Is there any word on when the software update is coming out?
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As always, the standard VZW answer is "by the end of the year"... The initial update released by VZW was NOT for VoLTE.
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As always, the standard VZW answer is "by the end of the year"...
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Yeah should have guessed... Oh well, we're going to the VZW store today so she can mess with it. She'll probably take a look at the G3, S5, One M8, and Turbo.
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Yeah should have guessed... Oh well, we're going to the VZW store today so she can mess with it. She'll probably take a look at the G3, S5, One M8, and Turbo.
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Good luck! It is a beast of a phone. And will be even more so when "L" is released for the Turbo. I'm just hoping and praying for root even though it may never happen...
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Good luck! It is a beast of a phone. And will be even more so when "L" is released for the Turbo. I'm just hoping and praying for root even though it may never happen...
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Thanks! I have the One M8 which came with a locked bootloader, a dev had perm root on that thing within 3 weeks I believe! My girlfriend will not let me root her phone haha she doesn't want me doing anything to it that could brick it etc. (although I never have bricked any of my own phones) oh well!
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Thanks! I have the One M8 which came with a locked bootloader, a dev had perm root on that thing within 3 weeks I believe! My girlfriend will not let me root her phone haha she doesn't want me doing anything to it that could brick it etc. (although I never have bricked any of my own phones) oh well!
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I had the m8 as well. It was rooted and running GPE within 10 minutes of me getting it home. But this phone is actually amazingly responsive even with the VZW bloat (disabled, of course). I just want root so I can run Xposed and Gravitybox. Then all will be right with the world as far as I'm concerned.
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Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase this phone for my girlfriend (she is still using the droid incredible 4g lte)! I just had a couple questions that I'd very much appreciate if I could get some insight on:
1. Is the claim for 48 hours of battery life valid?
2. Has a software update been released to allow data and voice simultaneously yet? (This is a make or break)
3. Overall, how do you guys like the phone from a performance perspective i.e. speed of opening apps etc.?
4. Anything I should know such as little annoyances or nuances currently?
Thanks guys I really appreciate it!
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1. The claim is 48 hours of "mixed use" That is kind of subjective based on what your definition of mixed use is. If you plan on streaming music, watching videos, gaming for a few hours or even sitting on surfing the web constantly, then, no, you're not going to get 48 hours. But if you use it as a smart PHONE. A few calls, texts, use the GPS to find an address, listen to a little music, a google search or two then throw it on the counter when you get home then I think you could get 48 hours out of it with probably 2 - 3 hours of screen time. To be honest, I can get that out of my M8, G3 or the wife's s5. I feel that the combination of the QHD screen, the active notifications and the always listening features work to drag the battery down faster than it should. They claim the active notifications are light on battery but I feel that they are not. For whatever reason the Turbo seems to have higher than normal idle battery drain (had it on my droid maxx too)
2. already answered
3. It's really smooth and fluid. The bloat has very little to do with the overall performance of the phone. The Moto launcher is pretty light. Not at all like Touch Wiz or Sense and worlds away from LG's awful launcher. Benchmarks are right up there with the S5, M8 and G3.
4. The moto droids are a different beast from the other smart phones with the active notifications, always listening features so if you've always had HTC or Samsung it will take a little getting used to.
The biggest problem I have with the droids is they are decidedly unsexy; it's almost too vanilla of an experience for me
The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Sensors You're not Using
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates - new users may not know to check this application for system updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates.
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The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Unnecessary Sensors
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates. Samsung is known for laggy launch software and that is what we're dealing with, folks.
I would appreciate feedback and input.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new Samsung® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
This is a good guide and starting point, thank you for taking the time to post it here. As always, other users should take all guides as such; a starting point to customize "your" rig for what "you" use. Take what you like and leave the rest aside. :good:
S6 making more problems than S5
My S5 Goes better then the s6 Egde
I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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Yay for you. Who cares?
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Well the M9 display and camera are quite poor compared to the S6 and iPhone. It's really unfortunate.
The new iPhone is only 5 months away, so enjoy your phone while it's relevant. I've played around with iOS 8.3 and it really is killer, I just don't like iPhones lol.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new Samsung® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You're joking, right?
Many bloat apps run in the background and consume CPU and RAM. They don't just sit there dormant in the storage.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You are an idiot.... Because on physical disk drives (HDD's not SSD's) being fuller does mean slower. That is that the drive will take longer to seek data as the way that the disk writes/reads data it would have to move the heads back an forth much further/more often. as I drive gets fuller it also fragments data more often. his is why a SSD is superior at seek times as it does not have to seek data on a physical level, especially as they get closer to full utilization of capacity.
Beyond that, a HDD writes from outside edge of the disk inward. This is because at the same rpm, each revolution that the disk makes it is able to pull more data on the outside of the disk than the inside. Density of data is uniform so it simply passes more data. Think of a car that has a tiny (diameter) tire vs a large one (same car). At the same rpms in a given gear, the large diameter tire will be moving faster. Why? The outside edge has a higher velocity than the inside of the tire as it spins. The further a spinning object reaches from center, the faster it will be spinning at an outside edge vs inner.
I agree this guide is bs...Just as your understanding of computer storage architecture is.
There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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Yeah the battery has been a disappointment so far coming from the g3... but I only had the g3 for a month and had a nexus 5 for a year before that so I'm kinda used to it. Still a buzzkill tho
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
This is honestly so dumb. There is no lag...
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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I've never replaced a battery in any phone I've had and I don't use microsd so I actually like the device being sealed. It adds to the build quality and the sturdiness. You couldn't have the glass back if it was removable
I'm currently rocking a galaxy s6, but I'm having a lot of delayed notifications issues with it. (i.e I receive a text message or gmail email but don't actually get notified until I open the app or like 2 hours later). I've tried factory resetting the phone, att support, google support, and Samsung support. I also tired messing around with the battery optimization, syncing interval for gmail, and a few other things but I cannot get it to fix the issue. Thus, I'm hoping someone here has an idea of what else there is to try or if all else fails, phone recommendations. Though, I'd rather try to fix the issues rather than buy a new phone.
In terms of phones, normally, I would probably go with the s8, but I'm having second thoughts on this phone because of my s6 issues. I was also considering a oneplus 5. What do you guys think?
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I'm currently rocking a galaxy s6, but I'm having a lot of delayed notifications issues with it. (i.e I receive a text message or gmail email but don't actually get notified until I open the app or like 2 hours later). I've tried factory resetting the phone, att support, google support, and Samsung support. I also tired messing around with the battery optimization, syncing interval for gmail, and a few other things but I cannot get it to fix the issue. Thus, I'm hoping someone here has an idea of what else there is to try or if all else fails, phone recommendations. Though, I'd rather try to fix the issues rather than buy a new phone.
In terms of phones, normally, I would probably go with the s8, but I'm having second thoughts on this phone because of my s6 issues. I was also considering a oneplus 5. What do you guys think?
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I went from s6 to Moto z Play, and very happy. I'm definitely staying away from carrier branded / locked down phones from here on out (I like having the option to unlock/root, even though I'm still bone stock locked with the MZP).
I had also considered the OP3T at the time. If I were in your shoes, I'd go OnePlus 5.
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I went from s6 to Moto z Play, and very happy. I'm definitely staying away from carrier branded / locked down phones from here on out (I like having the option to unlock/root, even though I'm still bone stock locked with the MZP).
I had also considered the OP3T at the time. If I were in your shoes, I'd go OnePlus 5.
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Nice. One of my friends has the Moto z Play and he loves it. Says the battery life is fantastic too. When did you make the switch from the s6 to the moto and how much did you pay for it?
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Nice. One of my friends has the Moto z Play and he loves it. Says the battery life is fantastic too. When did you make the switch from the s6 to the moto and how much did you pay for it?
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Switched the very end of last year. Paid $350 outright through republic wireless, and got 6 months of service from them for free (I had to pay $2.xx a month for taxes) with unlimited call and text, and 1gb high speed data. It was a great chance to try another carrier (obviously I have ATT since I'm here). I carried both plans - republic is great, but they use T-Mobile network, which sucks a lot of places I go, so I always carried both Sims. I use gvoice for all calls, so doing numbers didn't impact people calling me. I do typically use considerably more than 1gb a month of data as well, and the bigger data bucket republic plans aren't much cheaper than my part of a 3 line 15gb plan on ATT.
Phone itself is a huge improvement over the S6. It has taken somewhat of a hit in battery life as it's upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat. Originally I was easily seeing 8+ hour screen on times in a day, out I could go 36 hours off charger with maybe 5h SoT. Since the upgrades it's gotten a little worse - probably 6h SoT in a day. Some people say a factory reset will restore the old battery life - if I get time to set the phone back up I might try this, but I still have never killed it in a single day, and can count on one hand the number of times I've ever plugged it in before going to bed. Performance for any of the apps I use is on par or better than the s6. It's not quite as blazingly fast as the 800 series chipped flagships, but in normal use it's not noticable to me.
Only downside is the camera. It's probably ok in terms of competition at this price point, but it is a significant, almost always noticable downgrade from the S6. This bothers me a little more than I thought it would (I knew it wasn't a great camera going in) and I will be giving a good camera more priority in my next phone purchase.
Hope that helps... Sorry for the wall of text!
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Switched the very end of last year. Paid $350 outright through republic wireless, and got 6 months of service from them for free (I had to pay $2.xx a month for taxes) with unlimited call and text, and 1gb high speed data. It was a great chance to try another carrier (obviously I have ATT since I'm here). I carried both plans - republic is great, but they use T-Mobile network, which sucks a lot of places I go, so I always carried both Sims. I use gvoice for all calls, so doing numbers didn't impact people calling me. I do typically use considerably more than 1gb a month of data as well, and the bigger data bucket republic plans aren't much cheaper than my part of a 3 line 15gb plan on ATT.
Phone itself is a huge improvement over the S6. It has taken somewhat of a hit in battery life as it's upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat. Originally I was easily seeing 8+ hour screen on times in a day, out I could go 36 hours off charger with maybe 5h SoT. Since the upgrades it's gotten a little worse - probably 6h SoT in a day. Some people say a factory reset will restore the old battery life - if I get time to set the phone back up I might try this, but I still have never killed it in a single day, and can count on one hand the number of times I've ever plugged it in before going to bed. Performance for any of the apps I use is on par or better than the s6. It's not quite as blazingly fast as the 800 series chipped flagships, but in normal use it's not noticable to me.
Only downside is the camera. It's probably ok in terms of competition at this price point, but it is a significant, almost always noticable downgrade from the S6. This bothers me a little more than I thought it would (I knew it wasn't a great camera going in) and I will be giving a good camera more priority in my next phone purchase.
Hope that helps... Sorry for the wall of text!
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the review, it's really helpful. For me, probably the most important aspects of a phone are:
1. Reliability in terms of calls, texts, notifications, etc
2. Battery
3. Camera
4. Performance
5. All the other neat tricks and features (fingerprint sensor, water resistant/proof, etc)
I really did like my galaxy s6 until it stopped reliably being a phone. I don't know what the issue is but I can't seem to fix it so I guess I need a new phone. Though, everything else is still working great (with the exception of the battery, but that's expected from a 2 year phone).
I'm really tempted to get the oneplus 5, but at $500 it's on the fence for me. Also, I can get a s8 for around that price and the s8 seems to be a better phone overall, but... I really don't want to go with Samsung again and risk the delayed notifications.
I apologize for my rambling. Thanks again for your input!
riahim said:
Awesome! Thank you very much for the review, it's really helpful. For me, probably the most important aspects of a phone are:
1. Reliability in terms of calls, texts, notifications, etc
2. Battery
3. Camera
4. Performance
5. All the other neat tricks and features (fingerprint sensor, water resistant/proof, etc)
I really did like my galaxy s6 until it stopped reliably being a phone. I don't know what the issue is but I can't seem to fix it so I guess I need a new phone. Though, everything else is still working great (with the exception of the battery, but that's expected from a 2 year phone).
I'm really tempted to get the oneplus 5, but at $500 it's on the fence for me. Also, I can get a s8 for around that price and the s8 seems to be a better phone overall, but... I really don't want to go with Samsung again and risk the delayed notifications.
I apologize for my rambling. Thanks again for your input!
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No notification issues for me on MZP.
I was skeptical of the "long touch on FP sensor to turn off screen" feature I was reading about when doing research, but now I think it is complete genius from Moto. I almost never touch the power button. Every phone should have this feature, I'm not sure id be willing to go without it. And the MZP fingerprint sensor is TONs better than the s6