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Experts, once the Nexus 6 is rooted, would it be possible to roll it back to a KitKat firmware? I don't think I can live without Xposed, even more so with the gigantic screen of the Nexus.
I doubt anyone will look at this. Nexus 6 never came with kitkat. Unless it's ported rom or AOSP. Just wait and we will see.
Very doubtful... Would need too much work as it never had KitKat and wouldn't be worth the time/effort
This is likely never going to happen since there are no drivers and libs for kit kat for this device it would be a pain and probably be a buggy mess for a long time while it was figured out
We've a lot of devices updated to newer *unsupported* android versions therefore I think a downgrade is also possible but most will prefer L over Xposed+Kitkat anytime.
I don't see it happening.
When all is released and art is deemed final the dev of exposed said he would begin working again on getting exposed working on Lollipop and art ....he has done some work and said he had a build of exposed working on art so it may not be too long just have to have some patience. ..
This is not going to happen, it's wasteful resources to backport kit kat to the nexus 6 when this will take a lot of time to backport it. Xposed will simply need to adapt itself to work on Art in the long run.
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About that...
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...d-found-it-running-android-kit-kat-4-4-4.html
In terms of Xposed all I want is system-wide Immersion mode. I want to make FULL use of this 5.96 inch display!!
U better off waiting for xposed to be updated
Gorjira said:
In terms of Xposed all I want is system-wide Immersion mode. I want to make FULL use of this 5.96 inch display!!
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Can't use just edit the build prop and get rid of the nav buttons?
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http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...d-found-it-running-android-kit-kat-4-4-4.html
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Crazy. Id be so pissed if I got a jacked up phone like that. Not so much if they were readily available in store and I could simply swap it out.
There's probably a better chance of somebody figuring out how to bake dalvik back into L.
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If someone with one could rip the rom off one but that guy probably didn't know he had something worth it ....just for drivers etc then we could build aosp with dalvik if it was not there, just for exposed ...not to mention easier way to turn off encryption
I too hope Xposed come soons. I'm dying without some of the features I had on my S3!
It'll probably be better to backport dalvik library than downgrading to kitkat.
Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
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Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
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I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
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I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
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zephiK said:
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
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Thanks for your replys. I was wondering if folks could change dpi on apps individually instead of globally.
Clearly lollipop is inevitable. I've tried a recently released developers version of lollipop on my former dd (Note 3) and it has some nice features plus some Note 4 multiwindow improvements. But I also missed my Xposed mods when using it. The main problem I'm having with the EDGE is that I'm not sure how much development will continune on it. Currently there are two very nice roms (I'm refering to tmobile here variant) but no custom kernels. So I guess I'm suffering from developer envy lol... CES should be interesting in that more devices should be introduced with 64 bit processors along with, perhaps some of the larger screen sony devices. At lest that is the hope!
Given the fact that Xposed does not work on art how will that affect your decision to upgrade to Android L?
Comments should include lots of beer for Rovo89.
Due to xprivacy needing xposed it's the only thing that makes me still use kitkat..
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Aren't "no" and "I will wait until Xposed works with ART" the same answer? If you won't upgrade without Xposed ("No"), that seems to imply you would upgrade if it works with ART.
I'm willing to wait, there are a few Xposed mods I really care about like Xposed call block, full use of Greenify, MinMinLock and RootCloak, and others I could probably learn to live without but still find convenient like Chrome New Tab, CrappaLinks, Play Store link in App info, PlayPermissionsExpoxed, Statusbar Scroll to Top, and Swype Tweaks.
I upgraded my Nexus 7 to Lollipop (on Purity ROM) without Xposed, but I don't use that daily like my phone, so on that I'm wiling to wait, and even stay on KitKat indefinitely.
I can stick with KK for many more years.... Until Xposed come for LP, I WIL NOT have LP... Simple...
Perhaps it's just me, but, I'm also still on win7, until...
You may stick with KK and Xposed for years, but devs probably no. They would slowly abandon their modules, if Xposed framework development stopped.
Nah I will wait. There isn't single feature in Lollipop that isn't in KitKat.
I've been holding out, but just last night I decided to try out CM12 through MultiRom and now I'm completely torn.
On one hand, I have my beloved Xposed modules which add awesome functionality as well as some fantastic visuals (Flat Style Keyboard is the most difficult to give up...) and on the other hand is the absolutely beautiful experience of using Lollipop. I hadn't used it first-hand until now, and I was honestly blown away, and still am after using the rom all day today. Everything is just so much smoother and feels like it is working the way it should. I feel that with material design, Android finally stands up to iOS in terms of visual appeal, fluidness, and consistency.
*sigh* I suppose I'll find myself switching off between the two roms for a while, unable to choose one.
Still on 4.4.4, cause xposed isn't compatible with lollipop yet :-/
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...upgrade to Android L? ...lots of beer for Rovo89.
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Rovo developes Xposed for other reason, not beer, not money. Let us hope he still has reason strong enough to open up ART so Xposed modules will work on Lollipop.
Point of clarification: "Android L" is an early version of Lollipop. Since then, we have seen Android 5.0, Android 5.0.1, and the latest is Android 5.0.2, which is the only Lollipop I have tried. After trying it for about 2 days, I went back because I felt need for my Xposed modules. But, after only a few hours off Lollipop, I went back to it! And then, began finding work arounds for missing features. ART is so smooth and responsive, and Lollipop has a great new recent apps switcher 'Rolodex' that is wonderfully fluid, useful, and fun. I love these and other things Lollipop brings. Found ways to deal with all desired features. Even Xprivacy issues have work arounds, thanks to App Ops in CM-12. None the less, while using and enjoying Lollipop, I am keeping up hope that Rovo brings Xposed to ART.
using CM12 without xposed
Please, that is exactly the reason why the dev have no motivation to spend energy in this project any more.
No question, exposed is a revolutionary mod for android geeks like us.
Don't put pressure on the dev!
Thanks for attention
Still on KitKat. Mainly because it allows me to continue maintaining and supporting my xposed modules.
Would be too uncomfortable to switch ROMs everytime I need to test stuff.
I decided to pull the plug on kitkat and upgrade my exynos S5. I'm definitely missing the xposed experience on my phone. Starting from the full use of greenify ( especially wake-up tracker and cutoff) to all the small tweaks and quirks we're doing to our UI, and the whole OS.
It made me not take for granted the huge amount of work put into the framework itself, and the work put in by the devs of all the modules that we use daily. Huge thanks to all the developers out there and I hope one day we will have a working version of the xposed framework for the new Android iteration.
I'm on my way to make a donation to the xposed framework Dev and I encourage others to do so too.
Plan on staying with KitKat unless I decide to switch to Cyanogen. Being on a Note 3 I kinda have mixed feelings missing some S-Pen functionality.
I had to make the jump, at least temporarily. . Definitely missing some things, but nothing I can't live without.
I've upgraded to Lollipop several times now, but have reverted to KitKat each time. Not specifically because of the XPosed incompatibility, although that affected my decision. Mostly because the ROM I'm using now on my i9300 has so much extra functionality. Secondarily, Lollipop simply isn't giving me the battery life I've been getting on the KitKat I'm using--and that's something I find very important in a ROM.
That being said, again today I've tried a newer version of what's billed as one of the better Lollipop ROMs for my set; we'll see if I stay with it.
I only have one XPosed module that I use, and it's visual, so...although I miss it, I can live without it.
Yep still on kitkit cm11, mostly because of xposed and XMG compatibility not present on cm12. stupid ART!
i would like to hit over to android 5, for the fact that call sound actually works with latest Google Play Services... but its a minor setback sticking with kitkat... not like i get called enough that it bothers me much, #foreveralone :crying:
still sucks that i cant use most gapps cause of this =/ (i restored factory version, which doesn't self update)
ah well will have to wait a few months to see the progress of xposed and xmg ART runtime compatibility
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I decided to pull the plug on kitkat and upgrade my exynos S5. I'm definitely missing the xposed experience on my phone. Starting from the full use of greenify ( especially wake-up tracker and cutoff) to all the small tweaks and quirks we're doing to our UI, and the whole OS.
It made me not take for granted the huge amount of work put into the framework itself, and the work put in by the devs of all the modules that we use daily. Huge thanks to all the developers out there and I hope one day we will have a working version of the xposed framework for the new Android iteration.
I'm on my way to make a donation to the xposed framework Dev and I encourage others to do so too.
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What about the hard work of developers who've been toiling away hard on the Lollipop ROMs bringing you various mods without xposed?
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What about the hard work of developers who've been toiling away hard on the Lollipop ROMs bringing you various mods without xposed?
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I'm modifying my own system files for lollipop. As an IT engineer I know my way around how Linux/Unix systems work, and have a bit of programming language background.
I was solely referring that we should support what we are using (as I used xposed and decided to support it into further development), but I'm not using any other "mods" from other developers.
Unlike the vast majority of Android users, I buy all my software.
But I believe that the users should support the work of their devs, or if you're developing something, I hope your users will support whatever it is you're working on (I've seen you have clearly taken offense)
No offense taken
http://www.landofdroid.com/2015/xposed-style-framework-for-lollipop-in-beta-testing/
Former VillainROM ROM developer HomerSp with a little help from Villain lead Nathan Russell have put together their own framework to work with Lollipop which is currently codenamed ElPollo. Development is still at an early stage but the framework does install and a couple of test modules are also working.
This is a Great News for us, i'm pretty excited to use Xposed On Art, but i Think he should work with @rovo89 to bring us a Xposed Support for ART instead of create a new Framework.
When people wanted to help rovo89, he disagreed (he told about his own concept and he would not share what he had). So I can't see any reason to work on such project. Own style framework is better solution in this case since "new devs" can fully control it and not wait for rovo whether he will do something next week, next month, or never.
Maybe @rovo89 and @Tungstwenty might consider helping out on this new development
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Maybe @rovo89 and @Tungstwenty might consider helping out on this new development
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Let's hope so
Man I would like to be a beta tester.
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Good. If they can release it before Xposed then I'm willing to try it out.
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Good. If they can release it before Xposed then I'm willing to try it out.
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You will have to wait a lot more while it has all those modules like Xposed
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You will have to wait a lot more while it has all those modules like Xposed
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Umm what? Are you implying Xposed on lollipop would be able to use old modules. Haha good one. I mostly use GB, App Settings and Youtube AdAway anyway so I don't need the niche ones.
Also I said try it not use it as my main
I think maybe will be easy to port Xposed modules to this framework, should not be much difference between two (at least I hope for it)
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Umm what? Are you implying Xposed on lollipop would be able to use old modules. Haha good one.
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Are you implying it wouldn't? Explain. Xposed modules use Xposed Helper methods, they execute code before/after or instead of hooked methods, it doesn't matter how Xposed Framework handles the replacements.
Modules will require updates to match Lollipop code, it's minor changes, Xposed API should stay the same.
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Are you implying it wouldn't? Explain. Xposed modules use Xposed Helper methods, they execute code before/after or instead of hooked methods, it doesn't matter how Xposed Framework handles the replacements.
Modules will require updates to match Lollipop code, it's minor changes, Xposed API should stay the same.
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Somehow I doubt that backward compatibility will work as easily as you think especially not for something as complex as GravityBox. Unless you forgot some modules are still OS dependant and ROM dependant like TouchWiz/Sense etc. Calling it now that everything will need to be redone from the scratch unless it's something trivial that only switches some variables.
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Unless you forgot some modules are still OS dependant and ROM dependant like TouchWiz/Sense etc. Calling it now that everything will need to be redone from the scratch unless it's something trivial that only switches some variables.
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I'm a Sense Toolbox dev, so I know how modules are dependent) It won't be from scratch at all, especially on Sense, because it's still Sense 6.
Moving from Sense 5 4.2 to Sense 6 4.3/4.4 was a big change, but even that broke only half of the mods.
Rovo89 said that Xposed API will be the same. So, for example, all modules that change the functionality of an app will work instantly on Lollipop (because the app is the same). If the module changes some system parameters, obviously it will have to change, but not because of Xposed, the API will be the same, but because of Lollipop.
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Rovo89 said that Xposed API will be the same. So, for example, all modules that change the functionality of an app will work instantly on Lollipop (because the app is the same). If the module changes some system parameters, obviously it will have to change, but not because of Xposed, the API will be the same, but because of Lollipop.
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Yeah what I mean are system changes that L will break.
The main reason I have not upgraded to Lolipop is because of the lack or no Xposed support.
If @rovo89 does not wish to share his work and let us help him, then just thank him for the past work he has put out, some truly amazing work in the past.. But I seriously doubt he will put out Xposed for Android 5.0. For what ever reason he can't put in the time, I think its great that other developers are logging in hours to produce something similar.. Something worth donating some money for..
@rovo89 you are a top notch developer, but if you don't have the time or resources, just pass what you have to the next guy.. Don't ruin it for everyone else.. If not, let the new guys do their own thing..
I'd say something more derogatory, but I'm biting my tongue.
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The main reason I have not upgraded to Lolipop is because of the lack or no Xposed support.
If @rovo89 does not wish to share his work and let us help him, then just thank him for the past work he has put out, some truly amazing work in the past.. But I seriously doubt he will put out Xposed for Android 5.0. For what ever reason he can't put in the time, I think its great that other developers are logging in hours to produce something similar.. Something worth donating some money for..
@rovo89 you are a top notch developer, but if you don't have the time or resources, just pass what you have to the next guy.. Don't ruin it for everyone else.. If not, let the new guys do their own thing..
I'd say something more derogatory, but I'm biting my tongue.
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+1 same reason which prevented me upgrade to Lollipop. Xposed helped us in everyway. I would like to donate if the work continued to Lollipop.
Me too, trying to use Lollipop without the Xposed, but I have 15+ modules, with different functionality (can't list all), so it's was hard, then I go back to KK, wishing hard to work on lollipop
Yes, clear message from rovo89 is needed.
Didn't think he will say anything about this
He already gave a clear message.
He will work on it at his own pace and won't publish anything until he feels it's ready for other actual contributors to help. He also said he wouldn't be giving progress updates and not to bug him about it at all.
I don't think it gets any clearer than that honestly. Seeing some people posting about "biting their tongue" and holding back derogatory remarks confirms why he has taken that stance. He owes nobody anything, least of all constant updates on work he's doing to benefit others for free.
Also, let's be honest here, most people complaining about him not sharing his work in progress wouldn't be capable of contributing anything anyway. If they were, they would already be working on it by themselves. The source is right there on his GitHub. Have at it.
Let's just be happy that a possible viable alternative is being worked on and not turn yet another thread into complaining that rovo isn't working on Xposed fast enough and he should hurry up.
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Can anyone tell me if the Xposed Framework is currently running stable on Samsung Note 4 yet? I know there were issues with bootlooping earlier this year, but have found nothing to indicate whether it has been fixed or not. Thanks!!
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Can anyone tell me if the Xposed Framework is currently running stable on Samsung Note 4 yet? I know there were issues with bootlooping earlier this year, but have found nothing to indicate whether it has been fixed or not. Thanks!!
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Have you found a working version yet? Sometimes I feel like the ugly step sister, because it seems like the Sprint variant is always the last one to come out if it comes out at all. :silly:
I know with some ROMS and some Carriers it's just a matter of taking the generic ROM and adding the correct carriers software to it, and then rebuilding it (though I'm sure it's not as easy as it sounds).. so then is Sprint just not as popular or is it more of a pain than the others?