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[Q] Should I get a Z3 Compact now?

Hello.
You see, I currently have an LG G2, because I felt it was the best phone I could get at the time. But recently, after many drops, the screen finally cracked and half the touch screen doesn’t work.
I guess many of you would call it “normal”, especially if I drop it that much but, well... the thing is I hate myself for buying such a big phone, as slim as it is. Seriously, I was blinded by ALL the other cool stuff, and forgot I got kinda small hands. Even after several drops I didn’t want to believe it, but when the screen cracked, at that moment, I knew it. That phone is awesome in all senses, but the size is definitely against me.
Now, I’ve been reading about the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact a lot, since it’s practically all I will ever need, but I’m curious...
Since It’ll be released in my country at the beginning of December, should I get it? I mean, I’ve also noticed these companies got a hell of a short release cycle now, and I notice these chips it comes with have been out for a while, so... should I wait for a revolutionary Z4 Compact, or should I get the Z3 Compact now and be done with it? Once I get a phone, I’m practically married for life with them. I even barely change their ROMs because usually I get much better battery life and stability with Stock. Even for my HTC Desire I only started flashing it after year and a half.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
PS: I already bought the repair kit for the LG G2, but I will end up giving the whole thing away to a cousin, that’s why I’m looking for a new option. I never bought protector because, well, the phone would lose its slim profile.

Yes, buy one.

you need a new phone, so buy the one that appeals most and is available now. Don't get sucked into the tech waiting game, because there will always be a new and better model just around the corner.

i have to agree, do not get into the tech waiting game, waiting for the next greatest phone. i will tell you after having this phone over a very short time, i;ll give you my thoughts...
- it's slippery as any phone in the history of phones
- the battery is a beast. the only reason i really left my Moto X (13) was because i need a full 16 hours of full on use without having to run back to a hotel to charge for 30 minutes. forget what any one says, take it from me, i use this phone for work and the battery is a beast. i would be at 14% on my Moto X by 8pm, it's now 11pm and im now at 63%. a beast.
- it feels rough and smooth at the same time. it definitely feels high end.
- camera quality and the video quality (even the 4k) is well... it's fine, just fine. it's definitely above and beyond any camera i have ever had on a phone. probably the best phone-camera you can get without going iPhone.
- sony pre-installed apps are not a problem and the 75% of them can be removed. i bought mine straight from sony so, no carrier logos anywhere and no carrier bloatware.
- i got mine in black. it always looks like it's doing something even when it's sitting still.
- i miss the 'always on' of the Moto but, not a big deal.
- speakers are decent, thought they'd be a bit louder, but call quality is exceptional. exceptional. (im on ATT in a big city on the east coast). i just yanked my nano-sim out of my Moto X and dropped it right in and instant LTE.
- i love it. and i've come from multiple HTCs (Desire, Sensation), the Galaxy Nexus, the Moto X. i've been waiting years to find a reason to get a Sony phone (i really want a Nokia Android). this model is everything i wanted.
- perfect size, did not want a 5"+ screen phone.
- again, the battery is a beast.
and the only real con so far... the Sony dialer just sucks. heh, it's really bad.

anotherdroid said:
and the only real con so far... the Sony dialer just sucks. heh, it's really bad.
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It really is terrible. Every time I have to make or receive a call I cringe when I see that clunky design :crying:

Alright, just ordered the White one. I was going to go Black, but in a lot of videos you could clearly see all nudges and fingerprints.
Offtopic question: isn’t there something to avoid fingerprints and such to appear all over a surface? I’m curious as if the anti-liquids sprays that are sold these days would repel them.

no. you'll get used to always having fingerprints. that's the beauty of this phone. it's too sexy to hold...

There are sprays, but didn't read anything positive about them.

I have not used it on a phone but it stops fingerprints on
Stainless Steel and is a coating for glass.
It's called Raindance sold in Auto Stores it comes in a
Non Aerosol Spray
BUT do not spray onto phone, spray a little onto a lint free paper towel then rub on let dry buff lightly.
It's made for auto windshields, will work.
But DON'T SPRAY IT ON THE PHONE.
and close the Ports.
Put it on like a Polish.
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Yeah , I have not bought the Z3 C yet either and I noticed that dialer screen is very stark and plain and.ugly...lol.
Can that be changed in Android L ?
Also on AT&T -(I would be on Metro /Tmo) are you getting text and MMS messages quickly ?

Alright, got me a White one.
Even with Wi-Fi enabled, it almost hits the two days mark. I’m trying now with just LTE all the time and Wi-Fi only for application updates and stuff like that.
Thanks everyone!

Glad you got one. I too came from an LG G2, though mine isn't broken. Well, it was stuck in a boot loop after I tried loading a custom ROM, so I got the Z3 Compact. Now that I've recovered the the G2, I'm going to sell it off.
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KaOSoFt said:
Alright, just ordered the White one. I was going to go Black, but in a lot of videos you could clearly see all nudges and fingerprints.
Offtopic question: isn’t there something to avoid fingerprints and such to appear all over a surface? I’m curious as if the anti-liquids sprays that are sold these days would repel them.
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I don't have a Z3 C .....yet
BUT I strongly suspect that the Windshield Repellant Hydrophobic coating sold at Auto Stores called
Raindance will work well.
Spray on Lint free paper towel just Damp.
Do not wet down phone with it, use tiny amount, then repeat.
Again do not put liquid on the Phone.
Put on rag lightly or paper towel, then onto glass, wipe on, let dry, then rub with clean rag or paper towel.
It repels water and fingerprints .

[Q] Z3C and cracks, serious issue ?

Hi all,
I'm considering replacing my phone and although it isn't very urgent, my current phone (Wiko Peax, a french/chinese tinno rebrand) is getting on my nerves more and more. Battery autonomy (granted, beta kitkat rom, anything but the original ICS had bad autonomy) annoys me (data activated, can't stay the whole day with very light use: bit of surf (1h) and music (1h)).
The Z3C got my attention but so does the LG G3 (which price goes down quite these days).
The Z3C, according to a couple forums seems to be VERY VERY sensitive to falls and even slight knocks or sometimes.... nothing at all. It also seems Sony really doesn't help much warranty-wise. So I'm really hesitant to pay so much for a "break itself" phone (or so it seems).
What do you think regarding this issue?

thibouille said:
Hi all,
I'm considering replacing my phone and although it isn't very urgent, my current phone (Wiko Peax, a french/chinese tinno rebrand) is getting on my nerves more and more. Battery autonomy (granted, beta kitkat rom, anything but the original ICS had bad autonomy) annoys me (data activated, can't stay the whole day with very light use: bit of surf (1h) and music (1h)).
The Z3C got my attention but so does the LG G3 (which price goes down quite these days).
The Z3C, according to a couple forums seems to be VERY VERY sensitive to falls and even slight knocks or sometimes.... nothing at all. It also seems Sony really doesn't help much warranty-wise. So I'm really hesitant to pay so much for a "break itself" phone (or so it seems).
What do you think regarding this issue?
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The edges of the z3 compact are made of a plastic material designed to absorb falls. The main screen glass isn't gorilla glass, but it is some kind of Dragonglass*? Can't remember exactly. But this stuff is designed to be very flexible (Handle falls well.) The only thing they may have slacked on is the rear glass, Apparently that is easily shattered and scratched. I just slapped a full body skin on mine and it's been fine.
Z3c is the perfect size in terms of reaching everything one handed. LgG3 is all about big and beautiful.
Either phone will be an upgrade.
Also don't forget, people are more likely to post a bad experience than a good one.

Thank you, starfox5194, for your reply.
You're right, vocal people are the ones who got problems, I'm well aware of that (but a reminder costs nothing).
Btw, is root finally available without those DRM lost?
Is there any DRM TA partition backup solution ?
LG G3 has non of those problems. But I know Xperia devices are a lot more taken care of as for CM ports (which I'd really like in the long run, device aging).
Thank you.

[Q] The Vulnerability of Z3c is really worrying

I don't own one yet, but I have had an eye on it waiting for it to drop some price, but just as I was about to buy one, I suddenly check the comments on gsmarena, and bang, Z3c cracking all over the net! I have saved money for a long time to buy a phone that will satisfy me for years, but if I have to treat it like a thin glass which may suddenly break without any known reason, it will be years of frustration and stress, not satisfaction.
I have a Galaxy Wonder which I totally HATE, terrible performance, literally driving me crazy, but at least i don't have to worry about it suddenly breaking. I mean I understand mobiles should be treated with care, but at the same time manufacturers tend to build their phone in a way that makes it hard to accidentally break.
I am not sure I am going to buy this, but I thought I post here hoping for smth to change my mind because I totally love this phone and want it so bad!

goldendye said:
I don't own one yet, but I have had an eye on it waiting for it to drop some price, but just as I was about to buy one, I suddenly check the comments on gsmarena, and bang, Z3c cracking all over the net! I have saved money for a long time to buy a phone that will satisfy me for years, but if I have to treat it like a thin glass which may suddenly break without any known reason, it will be years of frustration and stress, not satisfaction.
I have a Galaxy Wonder which I totally HATE, terrible performance, literally driving me crazy, but at least i don't have to worry about it suddenly breaking. I mean I understand mobiles should be treated with care, but at the same time manufacturers tend to build their phone in a way that makes it hard to accidentally break.
I am not sure I am going to buy this, but I thought I post here hoping for smth to change my mind because I totally love this phone and want it so bad!
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I think you have to keep in mind here that those peoples devices that do crack will most likely post about it. Those whose screens have not cracked are not going to be posting, "yup, my screen hasn't cracked yet". In this sense there will be lots of negative comments about the screen because those that have experienced it will post about it.
Personally, I have dropped my phone naked on my marble floor and the most that has happened is the paint on the rounding has chipped a tiny bit. My glass is perfectly fine at the moment, I have no complaints.
I do now keep a case on it, but I am very tempted to make my own case (there isnt one out there that I like) that just covers the corners and has a skin on the back.
The phone is excellent! My only gripe is lack of root, but that will lessen when Android 5.0 (lollipop) comes out because it will sort out the ext-sd card limitations I am currently facing.

Yup, my screen hasn't cracked yet.
Lol
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Dropped twice. It fell straight on its back once. My screen hasn't cracked yet :'D and no scratches even
Sent from my Compact Beast The Third.

I've dropped mine at least a half dozen times; it's in an inexpensive CruzerLite case. As near as I can tell, the phone seems indestructible. No cracks, no scratches.

Mine hasn't craked... sorry!!!

sorry to disappoint but, what cracks? still pretty solid on me

*knock on wood*
- dropped mine three times --> not a single scratch
- waterproof --> yes, I've tried it several times
- flaps open randomly --> nope, they are super solid and sealed
- screen cracks --> nope, and I carry it always in my pockets, sometimes I've even sat on it (silly me)
Only vulnerability that I see is that the back is quite slippery, but you can always get a cover for that.

Haha laughed a lot reading these comments, specially those who apologized for disappointing me by not cracking their phone . Apart from user feedback, there isn't much from official websites like gsmarena or Sony itself on this.

Well, I would not advise you to let it fall to try ^^ and I don't believe in self cracking phones, I'll believe it if it happens with my own one, which I'm am super careful with
But the phone is absolutely amazing !! I knew the "risk" and still bought it, I advise you to do the same
I had once a similar affair with a computer which had a design failure with the hinges, the screw threads were molded in the screen cover, with the torque required to open the lid, it was a sure recipe for a disaster, but at least it was something easy to repair yourself, compared to this phone. Yeah, I have no idea what could cause this phone to break, it doesn't get hot, it has top notch glass and the screen isn't a mechanical piece under heavy load ... Could something be reactive and releasing gases in the IP68 sealed phone ? No idea

Girlfriend and I both own this phone, and have dropped it many many times. Both still in perfect condition.

No problems here, love this phone.

I'll pick option 3, do a search and you'll see this is not a real problem.

I dropped mine once onto Spanish tile and it didn't break. Second time I wasn't so lucky. But it was also my fault - it fell onto a rock with a jagged point. I would have been blown away if it survived it. Even with my experience, I'd vouch for the phone's durability - so much so that I bought ANOTHER one happily

I've had mine for a couple of months now. I put a skinomi skin on the back soon after I got it, so I can't be positive that it hasn't cracked. However, I don't think it has. A couple of not-to-bad falls, and the front screen is still intact. The pressure test is also still good, so I don't think the back is compromised.

No cracks here. And the phone is a beauty and the beast in one package

Same here, dropped it many times, solid device.

One week and counting. Sat on it a couple of times. Nothing is cracked yet.

Every glass-backed phone has always been accompanied by reports of spontaneous cracking. Nothing new there. I've dropped my phone a few times (albeit with a case on) and it's unscathed. I also dropped my Nexus 4 many, many times without breaking it, and the N4 was also plagued with screen cracking complaints when it was released.
If I refused to buy something because of negative comments on forums then my life would be devoid of any gadgets (and I'd be much richer!)

Add a third option to the poll:
"I wear a case and i don't worry about it."
That's what the most owners should vote!

Z3 compact 2016 ..... has the cracked screen issue been sorted out?

I have read lots of threads and comments on the Internet regarding screen cracking on the z3c but most are dating back to early 2015.
As I am now considering buying a Z3C does anyone know if improvements have been made by Sony to address these issues for the 2016 models?
Thanks for any comments.

Nothing has changed. On the bright side, replacing said-glass is very cheap and easy to do. On the minus-side. Say bye-bye to any form of water-resistance. This long with the Z3C: I've grown to accept this phone won't be water-resistant unless I use a case because the seals and IP-68 rating is only for fresh-water and the rating completely depends on the ability of flap-seals and sealant of the back cover to to do its job. I hope I can convince you to disregard water-resistance factor in your purchase. Notably because Sony won't cover any repairs if the damage is a result of water-damage(personal experience). That way, you can swap back glass covers as you please. They go for like $2.

My z3c screens right top corner today unglued. Lasted for about 8 months since purchase, without case, without any water interference. Still under warranty, sending it for repair.

alpha-niner64 said:
Nothing has changed. On the bright side, replacing said-glass is very cheap and easy to do. On the minus-side. Say bye-bye to any form of water-resistance. This long with the Z3C: I've grown to accept this phone won't be water-resistant unless I use a case because the seals and IP-68 rating is only for fresh-water and the rating completely depends on the ability of flap-seals and sealant of the back cover to to do its job. I hope I can convince you to disregard water-resistance factor in your purchase. Notably because Sony won't cover any repairs if the damage is a result of water-damage(personal experience). That way, you can swap back glass covers as you please. They go for like $2.
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Thanks for the reply, if I understand you correctly replacing the back glass is not a big issue and is cheap, but what about the front screen? I did have a quick search around the net and it looks quite complicated and expensive to replace the front one.
Have you done the front one yourself?
Thanks.

vilx01 said:
My z3c screens right top corner today unglued. Lasted for about 8 months since purchase, without case, without any water interference. Still under warranty, sending it for repair.
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Yep, mine has unglued as well, after 7 months of usage (bought it brand new), I am sending it for repair also. When my warranty expires, I will replace case on my own, because I have black one, and I want black screen + white case

bmg777 said:
Thanks for the reply, if I understand you correctly replacing the back glass is not a big issue and is cheap, but what about the front screen? I did have a quick search around the net and it looks quite complicated and expensive to replace the front one.
Have you done the front one yourself?
Thanks.
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I service my own phones often enough to kind of say that replacing your own front screen is easy to do if you're starting out with this phoneYou take out the front-screen the same way you take apart the back screen.. As long as your motherboard components are in good condition like the USB Port, antenna, SIM/MicroSD slots, and the battery(cause this is glued very well to the motheboard), nearly everything on the Z3 Compact is expendable and easily replaceable.

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I service my own phones often enough to kind of say that replacing your own front screen is easy to do if you're starting out with this phoneYou take out the front-screen the same way you take apart the back screen.. As long as your motherboard components are in good condition like the USB Port, antenna, SIM/MicroSD slots, and the battery(cause this is glued very well to the motheboard), nearly everything on the Z3 Compact is expendable and easily replaceable.
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I've been using Z3C (15W33) since early september and this phone has really rough life. I mean working in very hard conditions (very cold outside > pretty warm inside the house) and I never really cared about it even when I know there are problems with the glass. Also I have a custom s-line case and that's the only protection... I dropped the phone twice or three times...
but it's still running pretty nice and there are no signs of any damage, the glass is more than OK

Nexus 6 Prototype | Anybody Buy A Display With Markings Etched in The Screen?

I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.

Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.

Screens pls, btw i found 1 long time ago in eBay, Google buy then back for mich money
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illitero said:
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass

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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
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I definitely appreciate the suggestion, but I'm specifically looking for input on where I can get replacement screens. I don't mind cracks in screens personally (swappa boneyard represeeeeent! lolol), but with my last N6 screen cracking from compromised glass up top, I'm paranoid of any use doing the same to the prototype display. I want to either use it or sell it, and as long as the glass is broken I can't really do either :crying:

Finding a prototype display is going to be virtually impossible due to ridiculously limited quantities, and replacing it with a production model version - if that's even doable - would kill any value the prototype might still have. If you're looking to use it, you're probably going to have to fish for a production screen and hope Motorola didn't make any changes between the prototype and production model.

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Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
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I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)

mesco38 said:
I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
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You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder

illitero said:
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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Have you seen any more of these around?
I'd be interested in a Prototype Nexus 6 in any shape.
Heck, if you're interested in selling yours, I'd be interested (just PM me if).

Axel85 said:
You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
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Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..

mesco38 said:
Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
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I replied you and him only to tell that it's really hard , only to let you know and to let him know before he tries to order the glass,try to separate that from display and make it worse . Oled displays goes completely black if broken ,instead of LCD that stay alive .

I know procuring one is next to impossible. The reason I asked is because I had seen a large batch of them sold on eBay sometime last year. So people expecting them to work for their regular Nexus phones (they don't; ribbons are slightly different) bought them and ended up not being able to use them. A shot in the dark for sure, haha. Otherwise I have replacement production glass, LOCA, and a plate and wire to do the job properly, it's just as all stated in the original post: failure is an absolute game over. A screen with cracked glass is much more functional than a dead screen with good glass, you know?