Tons of threads throughout the forums (S6 and others) regarding the battery impact of keeping WIFI on during sleep. Some suggest that keeping it on always actually results in the least battery impact while others suggest that never keeping it on is the best battery bet (at the expense of increased data usage).
Take the poll and let us know which side of the 'WIFI always on' fence you stand and feel free to comment below on your individual observations between this setting and battery life.
For me, before coming to the S6E, I've always "always kept WIFI connected during sleep" but since coming here (from an S5) and dealing with the dreaded cell standby issue and battery drain, I've been keeping it "on only when plugged in". It seems to be having a positive impact on battery life, although I've done a few other things at the same time to combat the drain issue: shut off Samsung Email App syncing, froze Amazon and a few others, etc.
Under WIFI > More > Advanced > Keep WIFI On During Sleep . . . which radio button did you select?
WiFi toggling really hasn't mattered in years. Location is what will get you as we have tons of apps these days that will do background location polls. Tinder, Uber, and many others will destroy it if you don't completely quit the apps. Google services also has it's own fair share of draining battery life with location on.
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How does leaving the GPS setting to on affect battery life while the phone is idle. I understand heavy use situations like navigation will drain it but what about when the phone is asleep and apps like weather channel do a check in?
Is it better to just uncheck the GPS option if I'm not actively using it? Will it take longer to sync when I recheck it?
Sorry for the deluge of questions, but it seems more considerate to put them all in one post instead of numerous ones.
from my understanding leaving GPS on will only drain the battery when something uses it. Otherwise, its safe to leave it on. But you can always do your own test by leaving it on for 24h then turning it off for the next 24h and see where your battery stands. My guess is that it wont be much different unless you have apps that use GPS often lol
personally, i leave mine on because i didn't notice much difference in battery when i leave it off vs on.
I got 99 problems but my battery life ain't 1.
How to get the best battery life out of your Nexus 5
1. Location Services : If you are not in a neighborhood with a lot of wifi spots you will most likely feel this draining your battery life. Under settings make sure that Location Services is set to battery saving and not High accuracy.
2. Widgets : Weather widgets, games eat battery by constantly fetching information . Check the settings for these widgets and make sure they are using wifi and not updating the weather information every 30 mins or so. I keep my settings to update weather information every hour to keep it reasonable. The Gmail widget sometimes eats your battery too. I removed the widget and used an icon in the dock at the bottom to check my email.
3. Restart your phone : Sometimes residual processes from closed apps could cause issues. Restart your phone if you haven't done it in a while and it should clear up any unnecessary things.
4. Keep wifi on during sleep : I made sure my phone uses wifi even when its sleeping. 3g / 4g eats the battery like crazy if you turn off wifi when your phone sleeps. This should be a default setting as pointed out by some users. In my case it had been changed probably when I was tinkering with the phone. You can find this setting in the Settings -> Wifi -> advanced -> Keep wifi on during sleep.
You can also use apps like Greenify , Tasker , and Llama.
5. Don't use Automatic Brightness : Turns out if the sensors are constantly looking to adjust brightness it takes up more battery. I set my brightness at around 60% and it works just fine throughout the day.
6. Use wifi over 3G/4G/LTE if possible
7. Switch off wifi when using Data: Android doesnt switch off your WiFi when you use data because Google wants you to use it for Locations and help build their database of networks.Switch off WiFi completely when using data to save a good chunk of battery.
8. Turn off Vibration on touch : Typing uses quite a bit of battery over the course of a day. Try switching Vibration on touch off.
9. Use Franco Kernel: : This will require rooting your device however it makes it a lot more power efficient.
10. Turn down the Facebook refresh rate : Make sure it updates not very often( every 3-4 hours) or never. IMO your phone is better off without Facebook or any other battery hog social networking apps.
11. Greenify: Works with and without root. Use Greenify to hibernate apps when they should not be running in the background. This is best used for games that fetch information about deals or daily events (i.e. Battle Nations or Real Racing 3)
Feel free to add anything to my list.
Moynia said:
I got 99 problems but my battery life ain't 1.
How to get the best battery life out of your Nexus 5
1. Location Services : If you are not in a neighborhood with a lot of wifi spots you will most likely feel this draining your battery life. Under settings make sure that Location Services is set to battery saving and not High accuracy.
2. Widgets : Weather widgets, games eat battery by constantly fetching information . Check the settings for these widgets and make sure they are using wifi and not updating the weather information every 30 mins or so. I keep my settings to update weather information every hour to keep it reasonable. The Gmail widget sometimes eats your battery too. I removed the widget and used an icon in the dock at the bottom to check my email.
3. Restart your phone : Sometimes residual processes from closed apps could cause issues. Restart your phone if you haven't done it in a while and it should clear up any unnecessary things.
4. Keep wifi on during sleep : I made sure my phone uses wifi even when its sleeping. 3g / 4g eats the battery like crazy if you turn off wifi when your phone sleeps. This should be a default setting as pointed out by some users. In my case it had been changed probably when I was tinkering with the phone. You can find this setting in the Settings -> Wifi -> advanced -> Keep wifi on during sleep.
You can also use apps like Greenify , Tasker , and Llama.
5. Don't use Automatic Brightness : Turns out if the sensors are constantly looking to adjust brightness it takes up more battery. I set my brightness at around 60% and it works just fine throughout the day.
6. Use wifi over 3G/4G/LTE if possible
7. Switch off wifi when using Data: Android doesnt switch off your WiFi when you use data because Google wants you to use it for Locations and help build their database of networks.Switch off WiFi completely when using data to save a good chunk of battery.
8. Turn off Vibration on touch : Typing uses quite a bit of battery over the course of a day. Try switching Vibration on touch off.
9. Use Franco Kernel: : This will require rooting your device however it makes it a lot more power efficient.
10. Turn down the Facebook refresh rate : Make sure it updates not very often( every 3-4 hours) or never. IMO your phone is better off without Facebook or any other battery hog social networking apps.
11. Greenify: Works with and without root. Use Greenify to hibernate apps when they should not be running in the background. This is best used for games that fetch information about deals or daily events (i.e. Battle Nations or Real Racing 3)
Feel free to add anything to my list.
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4, 6, and 7.. it would all depend on your signal quality. i get MUCH better battery life on lte than on wifi. and i mean much! i get 5-6 hour screen on time without doing anything special. on wifi i get an hour to hour and a half less. so the wifi thing is just in your situation, and not for everyone.
9.. there are better kernels than franco kernel. and on top of that, kernels have so little influence on battery life. battery life is mostly about your personal use, your personal setup, your choice of apps used, and very much on the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else has very little influence, including kernels.
3. This I agree. I've had super strange battery drain if I don't restart the phone once in a few days. I refuse to believe its a bad app as there are no wakelocks, seems to be more of a phone idle battery drain or radio drain.
4. To be honest, it depends on the WiFi network. Some WiFi networks (typically at universities) have a strange and outright horrible battery drain the moment you connect to their network and leave the screen off.
6. Again to not repeat what I said earlier, I get better battery life if I connect to LTE instead of my school's WiFi. Download speeds over LTE are 2-5x greater than my school's WiFi, so race to idle may be happening here.
7. Most android phones today have minimal battery drain with WiFi left turned on. But it doesn't hurt turning WiFi off if there are many weak known WiFi networks around you.
8. Not sure how much you'll save, I don't even recall much of an increase of battery with this off. YMMV situation I suppose.
9. I've had better battery life with other kernels. Again it's a YMMV situation.
Not a bad guide really
Another tip is that if Google Play services keeps your phone awake for a long time, revert Google Search to an older version, reboot the phone. The wakelocks should be drastically reduced.
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Using Nexus 5 with:
CyanogenMod Nightlies
ElementalX kernel
1d 2h 9ms on battery / 2h 17ms screen-on time / with 38% remaining!
Good information! ?
Only thing I'd say is to just remove the part about kernel completely. As said above, kernel makes little difference. I get 24 plus hours and 6 hours screen time on any ROM or kernel. It's all setup and usage.
Nothing new here. Good for noobs, but most will have done this already
I have found that turning location off completely has helped my battery life tremendously. While I was barely able to make it through the day before, now I can easily pass by with 40% or something and light usage. I've tried other things but nothing has improved my battery life as much as turning location off.
Awesomepie85 said:
I have found that turning location off completely has helped my battery life tremendously. While I was barely able to make it through the day before, now I can easily pass by with 40% or something and light usage. I've tried other things but nothing has improved my battery life as much as turning location off.
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Yup! That's what toggles are for. Need it? 2 clicks and its on. That's always my advice.
So having come from Verizon's Note 4 and averaging up to 24hrs on battery running pretty much the same setup as I do now on my T-Mobile Note 4 minus the "Root" & "Custom Rom" abilities. Otherwise, same apps, accounts, usage pattern, ect...
I am on an ongoing battle still after several complete wipes, different Roms including just running STOCK ANK4 and trying to figure out what is going on. Phone defect? Battery defect?
Anyhow, Ever since changing over to both the T-Mobile Note 4 & their service, my experience has been a rather miserable 14 to 18hrs MAX battery life and going from 4hrs screen on time to around 2 1/2 w/ T-Mobile.
Which now leads me yet to wonder something else. I believe I started using the "FingerPrint" security feature since switching to T-Mobile to unlock the device. Has anyone experienced a similar "Battery longevity" issue using said feature before I continue troubleshooting and chasing my own tail on this? Of course I will eventually test this theory anyhow, but figured I would throw it out there.
Also, Open to any suggestions.
Just some things I have already done along with the above mentioned:
- Utilized the App "Greenify" & donation full version to greenify many apps including "Google Play Services".
- Set up Profiles which I toggle via "PhoneWeaver" to turn off data when on Wi-Fi which consists of 90% of my day as I'm Wi-Fi connected both at home and work.
- Of course always turn off that option within Wi-Fi settings to untick "Always Scan".
- Went into "Google" app settings and turned off about everything I can find in there and it's now rather complex settings.
- Turned off most syncing of my 2 "Google" accounts to only one having anything other than Email Sync active such as the Calendar, Contacts, and Apps Sync. - Again, my 1 Google Account I only have set to sync Email and nothing else.
Sure I forgot some things I've tried but again, I am open to any/all suggestions. I admit, I bought my T-Mobile via Swappa. All seemed well as per their checklist of the obvious things to check regarding the phone's operation. Kind of stuck here now and wondering if my device is simply defective and/or the battery.
Also of note: Android System is always by far the largest contributor to my battery drain and exceeds even Screen-On time by around 10%. But then again, don't really know if that means anything or not since even before switching carriers and the transition from "JellyBean" to "KitKat" on my previous S4, Android System became a forever battery hog for me.
Just never had a top end device such as this in past years barely get me through a complete day: Work & Home time. I don't consider myself a heavy user. Barely even "Moderate" many days as I mainly text during my lunch break, otherwise phone is pretty much idle. And say 2 phone calls of aprox 20 min.s each during commute time. Yea, something just isn't right. :crying:
I have noticed 3 things that were hurting battery bad.
1.) Use the Google play services with the 030 extension. I get way better battery life on it 5% to 10% increase in battery life. Link below:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-030-android-apk-download/
2.) If you are not using maps or other location services turn your location off. Literally a 20%+ increase in battery from this alone.
3.) Toggle your NFC. Something in Android 4.4.4 sometimes causes your NFC to wake lock. If you turn it on then turn it off one time it normally fixes is.
I attached my battery stats below.
It with about 2 hours of screen on time.
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I have noticed 3 things that were hurting battery bad.
1.) Use the Google play services with the 030 extension. I get way better battery life on it 5% to 10% increase in battery life. Link below:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-030-android-apk-download/
2.) If you are not using maps or other location services turn your location off. Literally a 20%+ increase in battery from this alone.
3.) Toggle your NFC. Something in Android 4.4.4 sometimes causes your NFC to wake lock. If you turn it on then turn it off one time it normally fixes is.
I attached my battery stats below.
It with about 2 hours of screen on time.
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Thanks for the reply and suggestions! I just checked and I am currently running Google Play Services V 7.0.97 (1791429-030).
A couple things I have done meanwhile since my OP which have had "some" noticeable positive effects on my battery duration, yet still no where near what you have posted are:
Within "Google Settings" app:
- Account History ( I have "turned off or rather paused" ALL the Activity/Info/History settings here - All 5)
Regarding my 2nd, basically "Junk mail" Gmail Account:
- Now have ALL "Sync" turned off within, including the syncing of email, which I now simply check manually to update.
Greenify:
- Revisited, and added a bunch more apps and pretty much "Greenified" ALL Samsung related entries/services/ect...
So far I have increased to achieving up to about 3 1/2 hrs Screen time (Gained 1 hr) & a few more hours of real time battery longevity as I can now achieve close to 20hrs before needing charge.
Still feel I have some troubleshooting to go. Oh, I actually have the NFC Service "Greenified" to. So far haven't really noticed a problem with "Deep Sleep" either according to CPU SPY pro.
Yep, Have always had the Location Service to OFF, not even using the so called "Battery saving" selection with it. Such a pity to have to cripple such things but it's a trade off I guess in achieving a full day's battery vs.s using the features with this phone for some reason more-so than past devices it seems. At least in my case. :silly:
Sorry for the long list of screenshots above, and also for creating a new topic, but didn't want to spam the normal board for battery discussion.
Anyway, I have the N920I model of the Note 5, using it on Telkomsel in Indonesia, and getting average 3+ hours SOT on this device, which I think could stand to be much better, given I got around the same figure on the Moto X 2014, which has significantly worse battery life according to most counts.
Here's my settings:
Screen brightness 60%, auto
Sync on
NFC off
Location high accuracy
Bluetooth on from 8 to 3.30, then off for the rest of the day
Connected to an Asus ZenWatch 2
Wi-Fi on from 4 to night, from plug out in morning to 8
Here's the list of apps I disabled:
And here's how my usage goes:
* Plug in when I wake up, then out at 7-ish.
* Get to school and let My Places switch to "Work" mode, where it changes the Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and power saving settings and turn off data before starting the first class.
* Turn it on between classes to check for new messages.
* Leave at 3-ish, and get home, letting My Places change the settings back to normal. At this point, the phone is usually at 70% with an hour of screen on time to report.
* Use it periodically throughout the rest of the day, switching between WhatsApp, Snapchat, Netflix, Chrome and YouTube.
* Plug in at 8 or 9, then plug out before I go to bed, topping up what's left in the morning.
It's a fairly light usage pattern, which reinforces the point that this phone should get more than just 3 hours. Any specific app you're seeing here that might be putting its toll on battery life, or a specific setting that you can advise enabling or disabling?
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Just try counting how many threads there are about battery life in this section. A lot! I, being one of the victims of horrendous drains, have tried everything. If you keep the device relatively clean(software) and it still drains then there is only one thing you can do. Wait for the marshmallow. I'm sorry but that's what it means owning a samsung device.
try gsam battery monitor. It may give insight into what is going on....
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try gsam battery monitor. It may give insight into what is going on....
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Already did! But Android OS is always the top consumer.
thanks!
As Octa_core mentioned, there are quite a few threads about battery life already. They might be of benefit if you haven't already looked through them.
Here are a few things you might try, if you haven't already.
- Turn off location high accuracy, or only turn on location when you need it (if you can)
- Turn off location history
- Turn off Always Allow Scanning in Wifi advanced settings
- Turn off S-Pen settings (alerts, sound, vibration, detection)
- If using Google Fit, disable activity detection in settings (this definitely helped my idle drain)
- Turn off anything you don't need to sync on your Google Account
- Disable enhanced LTE services
- Turn off Motions and Gestures you don't use
- Set touch key light duration to Always Off (under Display)
- Turn off Smart Stay
- Set Screen Mode to Basic
- Use a darker theme
- Try disabling some apps, especially S-Finder (may require Package Disable Pro to disable some apps)
- What does your signal look like in GSam? Some drain may be due to poor signal.
If none of that helps, then uninstall or disable (probably will need Package Disable Pro to disable) all apps you installed, and I also recommend that you disable S-Finder. Turn off all radios (location, NFC, bluetooth, wifi, even data) other than cell. Reboot after those changes. Monitor and see how idle battery drain is. After I did this, my idle drain was around 0.4% per hour. Then you can gradually enable radios/apps, only 2-3 at a time, reboot, and see how it impacts idle drain. Continue until you find app/radio that increase idle drain.
I'm suffering from excessive battery drains on Note 8, Nougat 7.1.1. The battery drain is excessive when on idle mode/when the phone is asleep. I have installed BetterBatteryStats (gave it all permissions) and tested with different settings for a couple days.
My findings:
I strongly believe the issue is with my wifi.
Day 1: I kept wifi on, turned off "adaptive wifi" and "wifi power saving mode" and set "keep wifi on during sleep" to always. Battery drain was very excessive at home. In BBS, wlan_rx_wake and powermanagerservice.wakelocks were very high and phone didn't doze much. When I left home and went to the library and was connected to my school's wifi, the phone dozed, and the two wakelocks mentioned didn't occur any more. In fact, from the screenshot you can see the two flat regions are those when I was at the library, and the downhill regions are when I was home.
Day 2: I kept wifi on, turned on "adaptive wifi" and "wifi power saving mode" and set "keep wifi on during sleep" to never. No change. The results were just like day 1. Excessive wakelocks and battery drain. In fact, funny enough, the wakelocks occurred more often as if "wifi power saving mode" was doing the opposite of what it was supposed to.
Day 3: I turned off wifi completely, and was on cellular the whole time. Battery performance was amazing. Lost 5% over 10 hours, and I actually used the phone during this time. I made calls, surfed the web and texted. Additionally, the are no excessive wakelocks, and the battery plot is nearly flat the whole time.
In conclusion, I am really confused. At home, wifi kills my battery. At school, wifi doesn't do anything weird. It makes me feel like this is more than just some setting on the phone or some bug with Nougat. Maybe some networking issues with my wifi at home? I was hoping I could better understand my situation by getting help here. Any feedback is welcome. I have screenshots from each day so tell me if you think they'll be helpful. Thanks.
Make a factory reset... try that, it makes my stars better.
Could very well be caused by Wifi calling. Try switch off Wi-Fi Calling at home.
I remember having this issue in past with my Note 5 icw bad Cell reception at certain locations.
But wifi calling is always on, regardless of what wifi I'm connected to. It must be something specific to my wifi at home.