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All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
First item, this is a question so it should belong in the question and answer threads! Secondly look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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Sorry, and thanks! I'll probably give this a shot, make that camera work a little better...
You can always install the SafeStrap ROM here. That's what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484908
[Rom] [VZW] SafeStrap 139.12.57
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The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
Sent from my Moto X
mercado79 said:
This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
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I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
dymmeh said:
I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
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@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
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mercado79 said:
@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
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If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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juancaperez2000 said:
If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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That's what I thought too. Thanks.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
will2live said:
For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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mercado79 said:
I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
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Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
boardrx182 said:
So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
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As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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dymmeh said:
As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
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That's awesome, didn't realize that would happen automatically. I completely expected that I'd have to complete the entire root process steps that were outlined in an earlier post if I wanted root. Thanks for the reply.
will2live said:
Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
jayboyyyy said:
people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
will2live said:
I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
jayboyyyy said:
3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
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Gotchya, makes total sense now what you are saying. I think there is just confusion at times when talking about root & OTA because of different ways to do it in a case like this device. Being a Moto guy for so long tho i'm use to all the BS they throw at us.....lol. That said that is why i posted the link I did. Imho it's a bad plan to update using the other method of installing pwnmymoto and not running it first before taking the OTA. Doing the process to protect root before updating is a much safer bet atm imo. Sure its a little more work but at the end of the day you dont have to be worried as much moving forward. Only concern I have still for doing it the longer way is if that process will work when they push out 4.3. It had alot of changes in it so lord only knows what will be up for keeping root. And really in my case its no concern but for all the folks with consumer version it is still a concern i think for the time being
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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miller1821 said:
No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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How does this affect our device when it gets the lollipop update?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supersu-beta-lollipop-root-stock-kernel/
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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Thanks to chainfire the chances of updating to 5.0 while keeping root seems more doable at this point.
However, based on recent samsung updates for other devices, safestrap may stop functioning after the update as it continues its slow death.
Once again, if having root access is important to you, do no not take the 5.0 update when released until some of us have a chance to evaluate it.
Since I am running dynamic Kat on stock slot right now, I should be safe from updates for now right?
Waiting to see what happens with all this. I did back up my stock rom to an SD card, so I can restore and unroot etc... to get an update if I choose to later.
muniz_ri said:
Thanks to chainfire the chances of updating to 5.0 while keeping root seems more doable at this point.
However, based on recent samsung updates for other devices, safestrap may stop functioning after the update as it continues its slow death.
Once again, if having root access is important to you, do no not take the 5.0 update when released until some of us have a chance to evaluate it.
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was looking for a post like this. well maybe we might get 5.1 in the next few weeks or sooner so i am sure you will give it a try and a good look and hopefully you will have success in attaining root and a good SS. seems like u da man for this...:good::good:
as for 5.1 or a custom rom...well whose to say what that will bring...
will be waiting to see what happens. will check back here when it comes out. i watch for it everyday and as usual, thank you for all your great work!
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No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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Not necessarily, just because (if) the S5 gets 5.0 does not mean the ability to root will be lost just go check out the Verizon S5 forums you'll see they have a method for rooting with 5.0 that in theory should work for us as well. again it is recomended to remain on a 4.4.x rom until this has been fully evaluated.
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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My suggestion would be not to take any updates until the root capabilities have been evaluated.
As always, research goes a long way towards alleviating fears and stopping panic attacks before they happen. be patient there are great devs here give them time to work
Well, I stopped using the S5 and switched to a oneplus one, happily running CM12 nightlies now
the att gs5 doesn't seem like it's getting any updates..
wmunn said:
Well, I stopped using the S5 and switched to a oneplus one, happily running CM12 nightlies now
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How are you liking it? I'm seriously thinking about doing the same thing.
I have a coworker that just got the Lollipop update for his Note 3 so that means it will be coming to the S5 very soon!
There is a pre-rooted lollipop update on droid views "http://www.droidviews.com/install-rooted-lollipop-on-att-galaxy-s5-sm-g900a/" . I have updated already and it runs smoothly. The only thing is after you run the update it can take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to reboot so just hang tight.
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There is a pre-rooted lollipop update on droid views "http://www.droidviews.com/install-rooted-lollipop-on-att-galaxy-s5-sm-g900a/" . I have updated already and it runs smoothly. The only thing is after you run the update it can take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to reboot so just hang tight.
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I used that method as well. Sure, it worked for me, but I came from Dynamic Kat, a well debloated stock rom. Due to this, after installing the update using this method, the built-in apps restore function could not complete due to having all of the useless bloatware back, taking up the extra space I was free to use in Dynamic Kat. Even removing the apps that are safe to remove via Titanium Backup doesn't help because the space is reserved for them. I've also already moved every app that it will allow to move to SD card. I've removed unneeded apps. I've gone through my internal storage to remove any unneeded files.
I've removed most of the apps listed here
This doesn't give me the Bluetooth tether that I used to us for my Gear 1(Running Null Rom). I'd look for an app to cover this but... I can't install anything because I've got no space to do so... I hope a good debloat method comes along soon. I still have root, so I'm hopeful.
Yea, bloatware is ridiculous for this phone. Have you tried the Alliance rom, that is what I run and it's not to bad for bloatware but I have only managed to get 5.6 running. Going to try version 8 today sometime. If you like to customize that is an awesome rom.
Hi folks, new to the S5 forums on here as I just upgraded from my trusty S3 on AT&T. I'm still on the stock 4.4.2 firmware, NG3 build, and I'm wondering if I should just root from here using TowelRoot method or take the 4.4.4 OTA and root from there.
Root your 4.4.2, then use the update while saving root to lollipop and skip 4.4.4 all together.
SoCalHTCFuze said:
Root your 4.4.2, then use the update while saving root to lollipop and skip 4.4.4 all together.
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I tried to root using TowelRoot but it said device not supported. I'll do some research though. Havent even had the phone 5 hours yet.
MetalHead66 said:
I tried to root using TowelRoot but it said device not supported. I'll do some research though. Havent even had the phone 5 hours yet.
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You gotta downgrade theres a post on here just type it in the search bar. Pretty easy process
Yes. Follow the 4.4.2 how to root thread, it says that bit still works.
OK thanks a bunch. Getting ready to do that now.
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Well that was quite easy and I'm a happy camper now! Just had to flash nd3 kernel with odin in order for TR to work then flash my ng3 kernel. So nice to be able to use TiBu. Helium wouldnt install all my apps. Now I can start freezing and uninstalling all the bloatware!
Hey all,
As the title aludes to, I'm totally lost with rooting my note 3 running 4.4.4. I've been pokling around this site for a few hours but I'm not really seeing what I need. Basically all I want to do is be able to tether my note 3 (it's SIM unlocked on an african Carrier,. the phone is from at&t originally though). As I understand it, i need to root my phone in order to use this feature (f*ck AT&T). Anyway, I did use the search but I can't find any info on rooting a phone that is already on 4.4.4. Do i need to downgrade or is there an a way to root 4.4.4. In any case could someone give me a full step by step or point me in the right direction? I hate to be that guy posting duplicate threads but I'm kinda stuck. Sorry/thanks in advance.
Andre... said:
Hey all,
As the title aludes to, I'm totally lost with rooting my note 3 running 4.4.4. I've been pokling around this site for a few hours but I'm not really seeing what I need. Basically all I want to do is be able to tether my note 3 (it's SIM unlocked on an african Carrier,. the phone is from at&t originally though). As I understand it, i need to root my phone in order to use this feature (f*ck AT&T). Anyway, I did use the search but I can't find any info on rooting a phone that is already on 4.4.4. Do i need to downgrade or is there an a way to root 4.4.4. In any case could someone give me a full step by step or point me in the right direction? I hate to be that guy posting duplicate threads but I'm kinda stuck. Sorry/thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the forum.
No, there's no way to root 4.4.4 that I know of yet, you have to install 4.4.2, root it, flash a 4.4.4 that won't kill your data, then it should be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/n900aucucnc2-odin-files-t2838117 are the 4.4.2 (NC2) files. I don't have a link to the 4.4.4 files handy, but I'm sure they're in the development subforum. (You want the 4 separate files, not the all-in-one, so your data doesn't get overwritten - in both cases.) Get into 4.4.2, root with https://towelroot.com/ then go back to 4.4.4 (if you want - I'm still running 4.4.2, so I don't have to reflash kernels to get into SafeStrap; Mobile Odin doesn't work on the Note 3 yet, and I don't want to carry a laptop around in my pocket).
I think.
I went round and round with different ROMs all last week, reflashing 4.4.2 after each one, rooting, installing SafeStrap, restoring my data, etc., etc., until I can't remember exactly what the exact steps are, but I think I got it right.
And there are a few threads her on how to root 4.4.4 - with downgrading to 4.4.2, or just flashing the 4.4.2 kernel, or something.
But no, you can't directly root 4.4.4 yet.
As for tethering, see if there's a tethering app that will work without rooting, or just go to Settings/Connections and enable Tethering and see if that works. If it does, there's no reason to go through all the trouble of rooting (which is terrifying the first time you do it - and boring by the 10th).
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Welcome to the forum.
No, there's no way to root 4.4.4 that I know of yet, you have to install 4.4.2, root it, flash a 4.4.4 that won't kill your data, then it should be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/n900aucucnc2-odin-files-t2838117 are the 4.4.2 (NC2) files. I don't have a link to the 4.4.4 files handy, but I'm sure they're in the development subforum. (You want the 4 separate files, not the all-in-one, so your data doesn't get overwritten - in both cases.) Get into 4.4.2, root with https://towelroot.com/ then go back to 4.4.4 (if you want - I'm still running 4.4.2, so I don't have to reflash kernels to get into SafeStrap; Mobile Odin doesn't work on the Note 3 yet, and I don't want to carry a laptop around in my pocket).
I think.
I went round and round with different ROMs all last week, reflashing 4.4.2 after each one, rooting, installing SafeStrap, restoring my data, etc., etc., until I can't remember exactly what the exact steps are, but I think I got it right.
And there are a few threads her on how to root 4.4.4 - with downgrading to 4.4.2, or just flashing the 4.4.2 kernel, or something.
But no, you can't directly root 4.4.4 yet.
As for tethering, see if there's a tethering app that will work without rooting, or just go to Settings/Connections and enable Tethering and see if that works. If it does, there's no reason to go through all the trouble of rooting (which is terrifying the first time you do it - and boring by the 10th).
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Thanks for the info! I'll give it a try once I get home. Unfortunatly there's no way to tether on an unrooted unless at&t allows it (that I know of). And at&t cant allow it since I don't have them as a carrier right now. I've trid a couple apps from the appstore already and they either try to carrier verify or it's just a widget of the phones tethering function. I don't particularly care about flashing custom roms so if there's a way to tether in my situation then I'd love to try.
It is about time I get some straight-forward answers. I'm tired of Googling everything I can and it not being what I think it is.
It is about time I get some straight-forward answers. I'm tired of Googling everything I can and it not being what I think it is.
What I have come to you for, XDA, is some light in the cave.
WILL THERE BE A WAY TO ROOT THE AT&T SAMSUNG GALAXY S5 VARIANT?!
Towelroot doesn't work. And if quite frankly tired ****less of all the posts that still exist talking about it.
Is there anything in development? All I can see now is SafeStrap and Multi-Tool but if you aren't rooted these do nothing. I just want some information for God's sake. Will ANYONE tell me what is being done about the development of the device's rooting? Is anyone even trying anymore? And if so, tell me! More importantly, if there are people, why aren't they being talked about? With as many S5's as there are out there (at least to me since I know about 10 people who use them regularly) why wouldn't anyone be trying?
PLEASE people get it together!
I have come from only 3 devices, but I was able to root and mod all of them. Rooting and Modding is love and life to me and is pretty much all I sincerely love about Android. The fact that I can't afford a new phone at this stage is sad, and I have grown tired of the bloating of TouchWiz, especially with the Lollipop update. I know that a rooted S5 would be extremely awesome, but since there is nothing about it being worked on I suppose I'll just have to live with the rubbish they call TouchWiz.
And if by some chance someone who can develop something like this reads this thread, please, respond, PM me, do SOMETHING. TELL THE XDA WORLD, because I GUARANTEE there are more of me out there who have longed for this but have just lived with it. BE A GAME CHANGER A DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Don't give me the, "Knox and bootloaders are hard to pass by, especially with the new more secure versions." Because guess what, geohot did it once. Not like it lasted, but the fact is is that it worked at one point. It may be harder now, but it's still possible. PLEASE DO SOMETHING. PLEASE TRY.
Anyway, best of luck to all of the users. And anyone who has read this please leave a comment and tell me what you know. Many days I'm left alone, commentless with my threads. This is one I truly need to be acknowledged.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
Well that's a big thread revealing nothing about your device other than its an s5. There are ways to root with towel root unless you have the 5.0 ota.
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Well that's a big thread revealing nothing about your device other than its an s5. There are ways to root with towel root unless you have the 5.0 ota.
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Well it's pretty obvious that it's AT&T. 5.0 L and Towelroot has never worked before.
ElectricBiskitz said:
Well it's pretty obvious that it's AT&T. 5.0 L and Towelroot has never worked before.
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Towel root has worked and still does on nce. If you were on OA1 towel root wouldn't work unless you downgraded to use it then go back to OA1. And no it don't work on 5.0. There are multiple kernels and builds that att has put out that it didn't work on without downgrading. But just for future reference is always helpful if you include your build, version, etc. Like i said there are multiple builds that it didn't work on unless you downgraded is only the 5.0 that you can't downgrade.
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Towel root has worked and still does on nce. If you were on OA1 towel root wouldn't work unless you downgraded to use it then go back to OA1. And no it don't work on 5.0. There are multiple kernels and builds that att has put out that it didn't work on without downgrading. But just for future reference is always helpful if you include your build, version, etc. Like i said there are multiple builds that it didn't work on unless you downgraded is only the 5.0 that you can't downgrade.
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I said that I have Lollipop so everything you're saying won't help. Plus I know you wouldn't have known anyway but I have tried all of this way before Lollipop. I tried downgrading from OA1 at the time to NCE and I ended up in a bootloop. The kernel was faulty. I had to reset my phone in a very long, aggravating process to get it back. I NEVER want to go down that road again. And like I said in the entire post, I'm just looking for a pioneer to try again and make a geohot move on Lollipop. And no offense to you, you wouldn't have known this about me anyway, but your kind of information was exactly what I was trying to steer away from. And here it comes, right back at me. I'm just tired and sick of all the people who just do, essentially, a copy/paste of common information. When in my circumstance, am looking for something difference. Again, no harm to you, but anyone and everyone that has ever responded to my threads because it's all the same.
As someone who used to reverse engineer software, updates to said software usually patch those exploits. It's not usually easy to regain a new exploit and can take massive amounts of time. I can't speak for other devs but (at the time I did this stuff and still currently) I have a demanding full time job and a family, which come first over a hobby. I can guarantee I will never buy another Samsung phone again because of this. I know it's not always feasible, but maybe look into getting an HTC phone with developer options that is unlocked from the factory. Venting on here will get your cause nowhere.
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Well it's pretty obvious that it's AT&T. 5.0 L and Towelroot has never worked before.
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Right, first things first. Calm down and please stop being so rude and angry when other members who are trying to help you. It's not their fault you are not able to root your phone. It is possible and I'm testament to this.
You need to understand the process of how to do it and you need patients. I live in the UK with an AT&T handset and my handset was never going to ever get to 5.0 because of that fact. I am now on 5.0 and it's rooted and I found out how to do it all on this forum. Further more if you search for my one and only post (yes I'm making you do some work - it's how to teach people to learn new things) I have information in there that shows you how to get to 100% rooted 5.0. What I'm prepared to do is write for you a line by line process in a Word document that will get you from your stock unrooted 5.0 handset to 5.0 rooted. You need the right files and ODIN - that's all you need to complete this. No matter what state you end up getting you handset into bootloop, failed starts..etc as long as you are able to get into download mode you are able to recover the handset. Yes, it can be annoying and yes it can take hours to get back to square one (sometimes) but you have to be prepared for that when you do something like this. It took me two whole evenings and 5 failed attempts before I got it working.
So after reading all this, if you are prepared to accept my help let me know and I will write the document for you.
Besides the fact there are already a metric ass ton of threads in this phone's forum discussing rooting the 900A.
I've been reading them for weeks now after I was overzealous and took the OTA to OC4 figuring there was a root solution already..... There wasn't, and oh well... My fault for not researching first, but it's making me keep my Note 2 until something comes up.
Hell something may already be out, but with rants like yours..... Feel free to enjoy the great advice in the links in my signature.
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Right, first things first. Calm down and please stop being so rude and angry when other members who are trying to help you. It's not their fault you are not able to root your phone. It is possible and I'm testament to this.
You need to understand the process of how to do it and you need patients. I live in the UK with an AT&T handset and my handset was never going to ever get to 5.0 because of that fact. I am now on 5.0 and it's rooted and I found out how to do it all on this forum. Further more if you search for my one and only post (yes I'm making you do some work - it's how to teach people to learn new things) I have information in there that shows you how to get to 100% rooted 5.0. What I'm prepared to do is write for you a line by line process in a Word document that will get you from your stock unrooted 5.0 handset to 5.0 rooted. You need the right files and ODIN - that's all you need to complete this. No matter what state you end up getting you handset into bootloop, failed starts..etc as long as you are able to get into download mode you are able to recover the handset. Yes, it can be annoying and yes it can take hours to get back to square one (sometimes) but you have to be prepared for that when you do something like this. It took me two whole evenings and 5 failed attempts before I got it working.
So after reading all this, if you are prepared to accept my help let me know and I will write the document for you.
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So wait... You have a method to get him from ota 5.0 to a muniz method 5.0? I was under the impression that was not possible once you took the ota ( i didn't, but I'm still curious)
ota 5.0 root?
wwit said:
Right, first things first. Calm down and please stop being so rude and angry when other members who are trying to help you. It's not their fault you are not able to root your phone. It is possible and I'm testament to this.
You need to understand the process of how to do it and you need patients. I live in the UK with an AT&T handset and my handset was never going to ever get to 5.0 because of that fact. I am now on 5.0 and it's rooted and I found out how to do it all on this forum. Further more if you search for my one and only post (yes I'm making you do some work - it's how to teach people to learn new things) I have information in there that shows you how to get to 100% rooted 5.0. What I'm prepared to do is write for you a line by line process in a Word document that will get you from your stock unrooted 5.0 handset to 5.0 rooted. You need the right files and ODIN - that's all you need to complete this. No matter what state you end up getting you handset into bootloop, failed starts..etc as long as you are able to get into download mode you are able to recover the handset. Yes, it can be annoying and yes it can take hours to get back to square one (sometimes) but you have to be prepared for that when you do something like this. It took me two whole evenings and 5 failed attempts before I got it working.
So after reading all this, if you are prepared to accept my help let me know and I will write the document for you.
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Ok, so I'm sorry if i've got this wrong, but as the user above stated, I too have been scouring the web and FDA searching for a way to root an at&t galaxy s5 with an OTA u5.0 lollipop update. From all the research i have done, I have found no resolution to the locked bootloader. Are you saying that you can root the stock, unrooted, locked bootloader, sm-g900a running lollipop 5.0? If so, I will gladly donate to your Paypal for detailed instructions on how to do this! I am no noob at rooting, having rooted every galaxy since the skyrocket,. But this lollipop crap is driving me crazy. Any help is greatly appreciate!!
wwit said:
Right, first things first. Calm down and please stop being so rude and angry when other members who are trying to help you. It's not their fault you are not able to root your phone. It is possible and I'm testament to this.
You need to understand the process of how to do it and you need patients. I live in the UK with an AT&T handset and my handset was never going to ever get to 5.0 because of that fact. I am now on 5.0 and it's rooted and I found out how to do it all on this forum. Further more if you search for my one and only post (yes I'm making you do some work - it's how to teach people to learn new things) I have information in there that shows you how to get to 100% rooted 5.0. What I'm prepared to do is write for you a line by line process in a Word document that will get you from your stock unrooted 5.0 handset to 5.0 rooted. You need the right files and ODIN - that's all you need to complete this. No matter what state you end up getting you handset into bootloop, failed starts..etc as long as you are able to get into download mode you are able to recover the handset. Yes, it can be annoying and yes it can take hours to get back to square one (sometimes) but you have to be prepared for that when you do something like this. It took me two whole evenings and 5 failed attempts before I got it working.
So after reading all this, if you are prepared to accept my help let me know and I will write the document for you.
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I need this please! I have an at&t Samsung S5 lollipop 5.0 please guide me
I have not seen any solutions for people who took Ota update. Did you make the exploit yourself? If not can you point out the source?
Thanks!
lowspeed said:
I have not seen any solutions for people who took Ota update. Did you make the exploit yourself? If not can you point out the source?
Thanks!
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My phone just automatically downloaded the 5.0 update a few weeks ago. I attached a screenshot of my phones specs
I replied to the person who said he has instructions. ..
wwit said:
You need to understand the process of how to do it and you need patients. I live in the UK with an AT&T handset and my handset was never going to ever get to 5.0 because of that fact. I am now on 5.0 and it's rooted and I found out how to do it all on this forum. Further more if you search for my one and only post (yes I'm making you do some work - it's how to teach people to learn new things) I have information in there that shows you how to get to 100% rooted 5.0. What I'm prepared to do is write for you a line by line process in a Word document that will get you from your stock unrooted 5.0 handset to 5.0 rooted. You need the right files and ODIN - that's all you need to complete this. No matter what state you end up getting you handset into bootloop, failed starts..etc as long as you are able to get into download mode you are able to recover the handset. Yes, it can be annoying and yes it can take hours to get back to square one (sometimes) but you have to be prepared for that when you do something like this. It took me two whole evenings and 5 failed attempts before I got it working.
So after reading all this, if you are prepared to accept my help let me know and I will write the document for you.
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if you're able to root OC4 on a G900A, i'm all ears.
so far i'm unable to install TWRP (fail auth) using odin and it seems it only works for 900F or other models, not 900A specifically that has never been previously rooted. all posts on the topic suggests you cannot downgrade from OC4 and any attempt is futile at the moment.
Rooted 5.0
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My phone just automatically downloaded the 5.0 update a few weeks ago. I attached a screenshot of my phones specs
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Hi, I'm trying to make time to create the document to show how I did it. I intend to recreate the process again on my handset and include screenshots as I go through.
Basically the only way I could get my handset to 5.0 root was to take the handset back to NCE stock firmware (by the way I have all the files on my laptop to do this) using ODIN v3.09. This took my back to G900AUCU1ANCE (4.4.2) April 2014 release. I installed Towelroot, busybox and Safestrap. Did a backup of the device (when I went back to 4.4.2 I then configured my device to look and feel how I wanted it to be because I wanted to restore the data partition once on Lollipop - but this is a required part of the upgrade). You need to use Safestrap to create a backup folder structure on the SD card so you can dump the 5.0 (OC4) rooted backup on to restore later in the upgrade process. I then installed G900AUCU2ANG3 (4.4.2) September 2014 release using Safestrap. I then installed the G900AUCU2AOA1 (4.4.4) February 2015 release and then used Safestrap to take another backup. Then I did an advanced wipe in Safestrap (excluding the SD card) and restored the OC4 rooted backup (I found online I also have this file). Once that restored I then within Safestrap selected the reboot > download mode (don't restart the handset into Lollipop before doing this process - the whole process will fail). Once the handset rebooted into Download mode I connected the handset to ODIN v.3.10.6 and installed the G900A_OC4_Stock_Partitions_wOA1_BL.tar.md5 (using the AP option in ODIN). Once that completed the handset rebooted and after 5-10 mins started to upgrade files. Once that finished the handset was on 5.0 - the same as the screenshot you've posted and it's rooted. I have SuperSU installed working fine and I used Root Checker Basic to confirm the device is rooted. More so I then went on to sideload the G900A_OC4_TetherAddOn so I could get native wifi tethering because AT&T still had this locked down in the root 5.0 I installed above.
anyone verify this?
Not sure they started out on 5.0...I don't know of anyone who has successfully downgraded once on OC4.
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Hi, I'm trying to make time to create the document to show how I did it. I intend to recreate the process again on my handset and include screenshots as I go through.
Basically the only way I could get my handset to 5.0 root was to take the handset back to NCE stock firmware (by the way I have all the files on my laptop to do this) using ODIN v3.09. This took my back to G900AUCU1ANCE (4.4.2) April 2014 release. I installed Towelroot, busybox and Safestrap. Did a backup of the device (when I went back to 4.4.2 I then configured my device to look and feel how I wanted it to be because I wanted to restore the data partition once on Lollipop - but this is a required part of the upgrade). You need to use Safestrap to create a backup folder structure on the SD card so you can dump the 5.0 (OC4) rooted backup on to restore later in the upgrade process. I then installed G900AUCU2ANG3 (4.4.2) September 2014 release using Safestrap. I then installed the G900AUCU2AOA1 (4.4.4) February 2015 release and then used Safestrap to take another backup. Then I did an advanced wipe in Safestrap (excluding the SD card) and restored the OC4 rooted backup (I found online I also have this file). Once that restored I then within Safestrap selected the reboot > download mode (don't restart the handset into Lollipop before doing this process - the whole process will fail). Once the handset rebooted into Download mode I connected the handset to ODIN v.3.10.6 and installed the G900A_OC4_Stock_Partitions_wOA1_BL.tar.md5 (using the AP option in ODIN). Once that completed the handset rebooted and after 5-10 mins started to upgrade files. Once that finished the handset was on 5.0 - the same as the screenshot you've posted and it's rooted. I have SuperSU installed working fine and I used Root Checker Basic to confirm the device is rooted. More so I then went on to sideload the G900A_OC4_TetherAddOn so I could get native wifi tethering because AT&T still had this locked down in the root 5.0 I installed above.
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This is funny.......there seems to be a huge disconnect between this and the actual issue in the OP which is someone that took the 5.0 OTA and wants root access. There currently is no way for him to gain root access. Instead you quoted, almost verbatim, my origina KeepRoot method and files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59996087&postcount=4
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This is funny.......there seems to be a huge disconnect between this and the actual issue in the OP which is someone that took the 5.0 OTA and wants root access. There currently is no way for him to gain root access. Instead you quoted, almost verbatim, my origina KeepRoot method and files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59996087&postcount=4
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Morning, first of all if you take a look at my first post you will see I have clearly stated your name and I have not tried to take credit for your process. Secondly I have only been replying to questions from members who have read my results and have then from my post asked how I did it. I have then simply explained again in the post you have replied to how I got to a rooted version of Lollipop.
Are ypu saying that if a handset takes the ota it is not possible to go back to NCE and then forward right through to rooted Lollipop or are just annoyed thinking I am trying to take credit for your work. I'm happy to guide a member step by step through a process if they want me to but I have already said it's not my discovery.
So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
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So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to be able to root your phone. A good place to start is the thread on how to back up your TA partition and rooting (don't be tempted by Kingroot)
Unless you want a custom CM rom I wouldn't bother trying to unlock your bootloader, it disables features on the phone, starting with breaking the camera.
This thread about going from a rooted phone back to stock is interesting. I'd say you don't need to root your phone, but it gets a lot more interesting when you do.
The top app for if you get root is Titanium Backup, it lets you control individual apps, 'freezing' them so they stop working, but not actually uninstalling them. Great for getting rid of all the bloatware that comes with phone providers (like Sim Lock), or even manufacturers. It also lets you back up an app and all the associated data that goes with it, so if you wipe you phone to change the rom, you can put all the apps back and the state they were in at the touch of a button. There's lots of other cool root apps, but TA is my favourite.
As long as you stick to stock then you can't go wrong, don't be afraid to play, there's plenty of people on the thread here to give you a hand.
SLIM 5 is a good stock 5.1.1 rom with lots of cool tweeks and doesn't mean you have to unlock your bootloader.
Edit: Rooting your phone doesn't void your warranty. But if you face any problems with your phone that means it's going back to the service centre, just put a stock build back on (no root) and do a factory reset. That way they cannot complain about the software config. They will do a factory reset anyway, before they send it back, along with an update to the latest rom. So be prepared and take everything off your phone beforehand.
Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
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Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
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Marshmallow has only been out a few weeks, so it's still full of bugs and problems at the moment. I would stick to 5.1.1. for at least another month, or until 6.1 reaches the Z3c.
No, if you install a custom rom then you wont get Sony OTA updates, but most rom developers base their builds on the latest firmware releases anyway, usually adopting a new release within one or two weeks.
Slim 5 is possibly the best stock Lollipop build there is and there will be no more updates for Lollopop now. There is a Slim MM build, but even though Wajk has been working his magic, it still has several bugs that need to be ironed out. If you are going down the MM route, don't be tempted by Concept or Beta, that need you to unlock your bootloader to root. Stick with a pre-rooted stock or a customised stock with root built in.
Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
UndisputedGuy said:
Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
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For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
Didgesteve said:
For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
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Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
UndisputedGuy said:
Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
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Yes, once you have recovery you can download Slim onto your phone and flash that. Don't forget to update SuperSU from the playstore.
No, you wont get any OTA updates with a custom stock, but Slim is up to date with the most recent Lollipop build.
Sony PC Companion will not update your phone either once you have a custom rom on. If you flash stock and then connect it, it will push MM onto it. But you will loose root and there's no easy way to get it working.
Stick with 5.1.1. for another month, wait for 6.1 to come out, and then possibly a couple of weeks after that Wajik will have made an incredible MM rom to flash, that will be as up to date as they come, then just flash that in exactly the same way.
Edit: Once you start to follow a developers thread, they announce updates to roms almost as quick as the Sony release, so don't worry that it will get out of date, just make sure to subscribe to the thread where your rom comes from. Slim 5 for example releases an OTA update, to move from 4.9 to 5, it's a lot smaller than the entire rom and only has updates, but flashes the same way.
Can only thank you again, successfully rooted and got recovery. Not sure how much I'm really fond of SLIM, just had a very brief mess around but something felt a bit off about the Launcher and the icons even after messing with the settings. It was only very brief though, perhaps there's more useful stuff there.
Might go simply stock/rooted but given there isn't a simple .zip for it it's a bit long winded
Thanks for all your help here, this is pretty much the ideal state I wanted my phone to be in upon receiving it, had no idea unlocking the bootloader wouldn't be necessary. Guys like you help make this site in my opinion, I half just expected a couple of snide answers telling me to just read the forum
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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UndisputedGuy said:
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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There are several 'stock' options, that are flashable zips
Pre-Rooted Firmwares-Recovery-SuperSU, although you need to click on 'older files'
Or another stock thread here
But by now you should be able to start finding these threads on your own
Yeah, I've time to have a proper look through now so will do that. I saw the thread earlier, but didn't seem to notice a pre rooted .zip for the latest 5.1.1 firmware in the OP. There was one in the comments though, thanks once again