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Hello folks.
I'm on a bit of a limbo. Can you help me?
Fist of all i should state that i was a former Galaxy S3 owner, so even if I have some experience with the underworld of rooting and flashing, bootloader issues are a bit alien for me.
The problem:
My Brazilian Moto X with unlocked bootloader was on 4.4, and after receiving the OTA update, i thought that i could update it if I removed root and etc (after all i was not using Xposed and ETC, so no deep modifications at /system that i know).
Of course i was wrong, and as greeted with a nice bootloop by my moto X. No problem, I got the 4.4.2 UK and flashed it thought RSD lite. After the flashing, I dit not liked the modifications the UK 4.4.2 retail have (like carrier name on bar, etc etc) and just flashed Philz and recovered my nandroid.
All is nice, but now i can't update to 4.4.2 Brazilian because i can't install 4.4 Retail Brazilian trought RSD lite, since the Moto X just detects that it haves 4.4.2 bootloader and not let me downgrade! I'm in a Limbo \o/
What now? There is any way to downgrade the bootloader? There is any one who have a full Brazilian 4.4.2 image (or a image without carrier name on the bar) for unlocked bootloaders? Any 4.4.2 flashable update using CWM or TWRP?
Oh god, so many questions. Thanks for your atention!
brunodmjr said:
Hello folks.
I'm on a bit of a limbo. Can you help me?
Fist of all i should state that i was a former Galaxy S3 owner, so even if I have some experience with the underworld of rooting and flashing, bootloader issues are a bit alien for me.
The problem:
My Brazilian Moto X with unlocked bootloader was on 4.4, and after receiving the OTA update, i thought that i could update it if I removed root and etc (after all i was not using Xposed and ETC, so no deep modifications at /system that i know).
Of course i was wrong, and as greeted with a nice bootloop by my moto X. No problem, I got the 4.4.2 UK and flashed it thought RSD lite. After the flashing, I dit not liked the modifications the UK 4.4.2 retail have (like carrier name on bar, etc etc) and just flashed Philz and recovered my nandroid.
All is nice, but now i can't update to 4.4.2 Brazilian because i can't install 4.4 Retail Brazilian trought RSD lite, since the Moto X just detects that it haves 4.4.2 bootloader and not let me downgrade! I'm in a Limbo \o/
What now? There is any way to downgrade the bootloader? There is any one who have a full Brazilian 4.4.2 image (or a image without carrier name on the bar) for unlocked bootloaders? Any 4.4.2 flashable update using CWM or TWRP?
Oh god, so many questions. Thanks for your atention!
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you can't downgrade the bootlaoder sorry
as for the carrier name in the bar someone will make a xposed mod to remove it.
i would either stay with 4.4 if that makes you happy or flash the correct 4.4.2 firmware for your device and tweak it to your liking.
Unfortunately you cannot downgrade the bootloader from 4.4.2 to 4.4.
Is it so dificult to do a 4.4.2 flashable update or we just lack devs?
brunodmjr said:
Is it so dificult to do a 4.4.2 flashable update or we just lack devs?
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If you find the factory 4.4.2 image for your device, then you manually flash the 4.4.2 files.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
If you find the factory 4.4.2 image for your device, then you manually flash the 4.4.2 files.
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I can only find the UK one. There is no 4.4.2 factory image for Brazilian Moto X, and i really don't want to install Xposed to remove the carrier name from the bar, since i play Square Enix titles.
brunodmjr said:
I can only find the UK one. There is no 4.4.2 factory image for Brazilian Moto X, and i really don't want to install Xposed to remove the carrier name from the bar, since i play Square Enix titles.
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Well...then you are at an impasse. Sorry.
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Well...then you are at an impasse. Sorry.
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So bad. Know any way to convert the OTA update to a CWM flashable zip? Any guide or something?
brunodmjr said:
So bad. Know any way to convert the OTA update to a CWM flashable zip? Any guide or something?
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No. I, like you, depend on the hard work of developers here for that kind of thing.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
No. I, like you, depend on the hard work of developers here for that kind of thing.
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I'm a dev too. Let's research.
The full image will probably be available in a few days to a week, so you should probably just wait for it since your phone is working.
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
flashallthetime said:
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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It certainly seems Motorola has changed the game with 4.4.2, flashing other carriers firmware at this time seems quite risky. As you said I wouldn't recommend it right now until more is known and all full flash images of 4.4.2 are released.
Steve-x said:
It certainly seems Motorola has changed the game with 4.4.2, flashing other carriers firmware at this time seems quite risky. As you said I wouldn't recommend it right now until more is known and all full flash images of 4.4.2 are released.
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Someone should start a thread with all info and have it stickied, getting stupid here, miss info, assuming have a unlocked boot loader will prevent hard bricks.
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
flashallthetime said:
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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OP's issue was that he wanted to downgrade to 4.2 -- not that he was trying to change the carrier version of the 4.4.2 bootloader. Are there any threads about someone having an issue trying to flash a different carrier's version of 4.4.2?
piccit said:
OP's issue was that he wanted to downgrade to 4.2 -- not that he was trying to change the carrier version of the 4.4.2 bootloader. Are there any threads about someone having an issue trying to flash a different carrier's version of 4.4.2?
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Threads no but multiple threads about issues, stay away from flashing another carriers 4.4.2 firmware at this point in time, I'm trying to get boot loader numbers for all carrier firmware , so far all north american and south american boot loaders are the same but T-Mobile and AT&T have yet to be released, European boot loaders are not yet posted
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
Every issue that I've read about is from people trying to downgrade. I haven't seen anyone have an issue about trying to side-grade
piccit said:
Every issue that I've read about is from people trying to downgrade. I haven't seen anyone have an issue about trying to side-grade
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Boot loaders numbers are different
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
That's the risk of being impatient and flashing things in a hurry when they drop....that weren't made for our particular phone.
Remember ...good things come to those who wait.......and bad things for those who are too impatient.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
Just find the Brazilian full 4.4.2 file and rsdlite it or mfastboot flash. I believe it was floating around somewhere.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
So, I did some digging around here, and I am more confused than ever. Here is my quick question (hopefully)
I have an bootloader unlocked xt1058 (ATT branded). I ran a nandroid to flash a new rom, only to discover when i went to restore a nandroid, the system folder did not back up, therefore I do not have a /system folder backup of stock ATT 4.4.2.
What I want to know is: Can I fastboot flash ATT's 4.4 system file only (i know bootloader is not compatable), then take the 4.4.2 OTA? Or will this hard brick my phone?
If i searched the forums correctly, it addresses if your bootloader is locked, but not unlocked.
I am running an AOSP now, so i know my way around fastboot and adb.
Any assistance would be helpful, and a flashable zip of stock ATT 4.4.2 would kick a**
Thanks for the help!
I'm not sure exactly how, cause I never have, or would downgrade......but just be sure you find out exactly how to do it. An unlocked boot loader will not protect you from a brick if something is done wrong. In other words....there are ways to brick for sure....locked or unlocked.
To me its a risky endeavor no matter what the case. Mistakes happen.....and in the case of downgrading from 4.4.2....mistakes can cost you a phone. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
kj2112 said:
I'm not sure exactly how, cause I never have, or would downgrade......but just be sure you find out exactly how to do it. An unlocked boot loader will not protect you from a brick if something is done wrong. In other words....there are ways to brick for sure....locked or unlocked.
To me its a risky endeavor no matter what the case. Mistakes happen.....and in the case of downgrading from 4.4.2....mistakes can cost you a phone. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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Yep! Hence the question. I guess the real question is...with an unlocked bootloader, can i flash System and Recovery (Android 4.4), while on Bootloader (Android 4.4.2)
would the safest thing to do to use RSD and flash (which will stop if there is a security issue)?
I'd just wait for the flash able 4.4.2 files.
Why do you want 4.4 anyway? There's not much difference.... Except a few negatives.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
cpetersen2791 said:
What I want to know is: Can I fastboot flash ATT's 4.4 system file only (i know bootloader is not compatable), then take the 4.4.2 OTA? Or will this hard brick my phone?
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Yes this will brick your phone. If you are on 4.4.2, and downgrade only parts (say system.img), you'll have a version and security mismatch, including the bootloader and GPT.BIN. If you take an OTA in that state you will brick. (at least that is what many of the users who have bricked have done according to the threads I've read... I haven't actually done it first hand as I don't want to deal with a brick).
cpetersen2791 said:
If i searched the forums correctly, it addresses if your bootloader is locked, but not unlocked.
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This applies for locked and unlocked bootloaders.
cpetersen2791 said:
Any assistance would be helpful, and a flashable zip of stock ATT 4.4.2 would kick a**
Thanks for the help!
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As soon as the SBF for ATT 4.4.2 leaks out, I'm sure it will be available on -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
kj2112 said:
I'd just wait for the flash able 4.4.2 files.
Why do you want 4.4 anyway? There's not much difference.... Except a few negatives.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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when i ran a "stock" nandroid to test AOSP roms, i failed to back up my system folder, therefore I don't have a Stock ATT OS. I know 4.4.2 was out, but only as OTA, but complete 4.4 was available.
Thanks for all the assistance, i'll wait for the 4.4.2 SBF.
i have moto x (xt1058) without at&t logo (ghost_rcica) and i have some problems with wifi and downloading apps from play store.
so, i want to flash stock rom again in my moto x (if that will fix my problems).
i have locked bootloader. pleas help me.
sheikh.sami17 said:
i have moto x (xt1058) without at&t logo (ghost_rcica) and i have some problems with wifi and downloading apps from play store.
so, i want to flash stock rom again in my moto x (if that will fix my problems).
i have locked bootloader. pleas help me.
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Visit the link in my signature for Stock SBF files...
The view/read/follow -> [GUIDE][VIDEO] Moto X - Return to 100% stock (using RSD Lite OR manual flash)
but i have locked bootloader. can i flash stock firmware with locked bootloader?
KidJoe said:
Visit the link in my signature for Stock SBF files...
The view/read/follow -> [GUIDE][VIDEO] Moto X - Return to 100% stock (using RSD Lite OR manual flash)
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but i have locked bootloader. can i flash stock firmware with locked bootloader?
help!
sheikh.sami17 said:
but i have locked bootloader. can i flash stock firmware with locked bootloader?
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i have downloaded the stock firmware. and will flash through manual method. the question is this that can i flash with locked bootloader?
sheikh.sami17 said:
but i have locked bootloader. can i flash stock firmware with locked bootloader?
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YES you can flash stock Moto roms meant for your model and carrier only.
Also, Never attempt to downgrade.
help me.
i'm currently on 4.4.4 stock and i'm flash stock 4.4.4 again with locked bootloader. i'm not downgrading.
my phone's model is xt1058 i've downloaded brasilian 4.4.4 stock firmware for xt1058. i again ask is that ok to flash with locked bootloader?
thankyou so much for helping.
help me!
KidJoe said:
YES you can flash stock Moto roms meant for your model and carrier only.
Also, Never attempt to downgrade.
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I'm currently on stock 4.4.4. and i will flash stock 4.4.4 again.
my phone's model is xt 1058. I've downloaded stock Brasilian 4.4.4 firmware
for xt 1058. i had Chat with a motorola agent he said that first i have to
unlock bootloader. i want to confirm again that if i flash without unlocking
the bootloader my will not get Bricked or something like that?
thank you for helping me.
sheikh.sami17 said:
i'm currently on 4.4.4 stock and i'm flash stock 4.4.4 again with locked bootloader. i'm not downgrading.
my phone's model is xt1058 i've downloaded brasilian 4.4.4 stock firmware for xt1058. i again ask is that ok to flash with locked bootloader?
thankyou so much for helping.
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I don't know exactly what ROM is on a Brasilian XT1058.
On you phone, go App Drawer -> Settings... Make note of what is listed under System Version, Android Version, and build number.
That is what to look for when you are searching for the Stock SBF for your phone. The file name will usually contain parts or all of that info, and possibly the carrier name, or acronym for the carrier name (Verizon might be VZW, Rogers Canada might be RCI, etc)
This is important because if you have a locked bootloader, you can't for example flash an XT1058 from AT&T USA (locked bootloader), with the SBF for an XT1058 from Rogers Canada.
KidJoe said:
I don't know exactly what ROM is on a Brasilian XT1058.
On you phone, go App Drawer -> Settings... Make note of what is listed under System Version, Android Version, and build number.
That is what to look for when you are searching for the Stock SBF for your phone. The file name will usually contain parts or all of that info, and possibly the carrier name, or acronym for the carrier name (Verizon might be VZW, Rogers Canada might be RCI, etc)
This is important because if you have a locked bootloader, you can't for example flash an XT1058 from AT&T USA (locked bootloader), with the SBF for an XT1058 from Rogers Canada.
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i don't have a at&t phone.
my phone's android version is 4.4.4
system version is 212.44.26. ghost_row. RCI. en. ca
build nunber is KXA21.12-L1.26
that would be really great if u can find correct stock firmware for my phone.
help would be really appreciated.
sheikh.sami17 said:
i don't have a at&t phone.
my phone's android version is 4.4.4
system version is 212.44.26. ghost_row. RCI. en. ca
build nunber is KXA21.12-L1.26
that would be really great if u can find correct stock firmware for my phone.
help would be really appreciated.
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Right, you have an XT1058 from Rogers Canada... Notice the RCI in the system version (which I also mentioned in my post as a possible acronym)
No offense, but your posts come across as if you are not willing to do anything but ask "tell me how to do this".
I would have a different attitude if you showed me that you took the time to read and try to understand what has been posted.
For example, I KNOW the correct XT1058 RCI CA 4.4.4 SBF is out there on the file factory link, and it has XT1058, RCI CA, 4.4.4 and that system number in its name! but YOU have to take the time to look, IT IS YOUR PHONE.
But no, its been "do it for me."
I have a life. Helping people on these forums is a HOBBY, not a job. I don't have the time to spoon feed each individual. That is why there are guides written (which I gave you links to).
If you can't figure this out, maybe you should play it safe and skip trying to flash your phone. And if you haven't factory reset your phone yet, try that as a first step.
sorry!
KidJoe said:
Right, you have an XT1058 from Rogers Canada... Notice the RCI in the system version (which I also mentioned in my post as a possible acronym)
No offense, but your posts come across as if you are not willing to do anything but ask "tell me how to do this".
I would have a different attitude if you showed me that you took the time to read and try to understand what has been posted.
For example, I KNOW the correct XT1058 RCI CA 4.4.4 SBF is out there on the file factory link, and it has XT1058, RCI CA, 4.4.4 and that system number in its name! but YOU have to take the time to look, IT IS YOUR PHONE.
But no, its been "do it for me."
I have a life. Helping people on these forums is a HOBBY, not a job. I don't have the time to spoon feed each individual. That is why there are guides written (which I gave you links to).
If you can't figure this out, maybe you should play it safe and skip trying to flash your phone. And if you haven't factory reset your phone yet, try that as a first step.
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sorry but u took me wrong. i have spent too much time in finding the correct firmware but i haven't found. i found at&t firmware which i dont want, and yeah i saw that link and have choose to flash through manual method.
KidJoe said:
Right, you have an XT1058 from Rogers Canada... Notice the RCI in the system version (which I also mentioned in my post as a possible acronym)
No offense, but your posts come across as if you are not willing to do anything but ask "tell me how to do this".
I would have a different attitude if you showed me that you took the time to read and try to understand what has been posted.
For example, I KNOW the correct XT1058 RCI CA 4.4.4 SBF is out there on the file factory link, and it has XT1058, RCI CA, 4.4.4 and that system number in its name! but YOU have to take the time to look, IT IS YOUR PHONE.
But no, its been "do it for me."
I have a life. Helping people on these forums is a HOBBY, not a job. I don't have the time to spoon feed each individual. That is why there are guides written (which I gave you links to).
If you can't figure this out, maybe you should play it safe and skip trying to flash your phone. And if you haven't factory reset your phone yet, try that as a first step.
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and i have reset my phone many times but no fixes. and the link to sbf files is dead.
sheikh.sami17 said:
sorry but u took me wrong. i have spent too much time in finding the correct firmware but i haven't found. i found at&t firmware which i dont want, and yeah i saw that link and have choose to flash through manual method.
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Yes, ATT is not right.
sheikh.sami17 said:
and i have reset my phone many times but no fixes. and the link to sbf files is dead.
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It took me all of 15 seconds to use the link in my signature to the thread with SBF ROM sites, then click the FileFactory site, and find a listing for XT1058_RCI-CA_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_59_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/5z0...4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_59_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
which most certainly DOES work as I am downloading it as I type.
So again, you are looking for "Do it for me" rather than trying your self. Sorry, but I'm done. Good luck.
thanx!
KidJoe said:
Yes, ATT is not right.
It took me all of 15 seconds to use the link in my signature to the thread with SBF ROM sites, then click the FileFactory site, and find a listing for XT1058_RCI-CA_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_59_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/5z0...4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_59_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
which most certainly DOES work as I am downloading it as I type.
So again, you are looking for "Do it for me" rather than trying your self. Sorry, but I'm done. Good luck.
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can u help me a little bit more? in the commands i saw this "fastboot oem config carrier vzw"
but i dont have a vzw phone. so which command should i use?
sheikh.sami17 said:
can u help me a little bit more? in the commands i saw this "fastboot oem config carrier vzw"
but i dont have a vzw phone. so which command should i use?
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You should be fine not running that command I believe. Flash everything else.
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Hey Every One! I Need a little Help I Have Bought a moto X At&t but unfortunately i Wipe my custom Rom.. and now its stuck in Bootloader.
Ps.
Bootloader is unlocked
Phone is Rooted
Can You Tell me What can i Do? or any one have Stock Rom for Moto X Xt1058 (At&t). Cuz i have seen lots of links and there are broken..
Regards
Faisal Siddiqui
faisal siddiqui said:
Hey Every One! I Need a little Help I Have Bought a moto X At&t but unfortunately i Wipe my custom Rom.. and now its stuck in Bootloader.
Ps.
Bootloader is unlocked
Phone is Rooted
Can You Tell me What can i Do? or any one have Stock Rom for Moto X Xt1058 (At&t). Cuz i have seen lots of links and there are broken..
Regards
Faisal Siddiqui
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Download the correct firmware from here: http://www.filefactory.com/folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100&page=1
Here you have the XT1058 AT&T 4.4.4 version for example: http://www.filefactory.com/file/48ofsvh148j7/ATT_XT1058_4.4.4-KXA21.12-L1.26_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
Here is a good how-to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
Make sure you only flash a version that has the same or newer bootloader version! Downgrading can/will brick your device.
Just look up your bootloader version:
30.70 = original 4.2.2
30.71 = 4.2.2 OTA with camera update
30.B2 = 4.4
30.B4 = 4.4.2
30.B7 = 4.4.4
Meaning if you have 30.B7 for example, flashing 4.4.2 is a big no-no
You can find more about it here: http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm
All credits to original posters
Hi, I have a unrooted 1092 where I applied the OTA to 5.0.
I have found lolipop to be a dissapointment and want to go back to kitkat. Is there a way to do this? My phone has a locked bootloader (i have not unlocked it) and I have been unable to find a factory image for this model.
The current system version is 22.21.19.victara_reteu.reteuall.en.EU retin
-Ivar
ivaho said:
Hi, I have a unrooted 1092 where I applied the OTA to 5.0.
I have found lolipop to be a dissapointment and want to go back to kitkat. Is there a way to do this? My phone has a locked bootloader (i have not unlocked it) and I have been unable to find a factory image for this model.
The current system version is 22.21.19.victara_reteu.reteuall.en.EU retin
-Ivar
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Hey Ivar,
You've got 2 choices; use mfastboot to revert back to KitKat. So you must unlock your bootloader. Or try motorola's RSD Lite tool..
I recommend making a full nandroid back up before attempting anything.
Check here; techbeasts.com/2014/11/11/how-to-restore-moto-x-2014-to-stock
If you need any help, let me know! Good luck !
Btw, Motorola stock rom's are called SBF's ( system binary file )
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Hey Ivar,
You've got 2 choices; use mfastboot to revert back to KitKat. So you must unlock your bootloader. Or try motorola's RSD Lite tool..
I recommend making a full nandroid back up before attempting anything.
Check here; techbeasts.com/2014/11/11/how-to-restore-moto-x-2014-to-stock
If you need any help, let me know! Good luck !
Btw, Motorola stock rom's are called SBF's ( system binary file )
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Hi all, I need help.
I have an XT1053 developer edition, gsm. In the past I've unlocked bootloader just to use Xposed on Kitkat, I've never flashed custom roms. Only once an XT1052 stock rom to have italian as language, but since it had a bad radio behaviour I went back to XT1053 stock rom. I've had root but not for long. I have tried also to re-lock the bootloader, but I was never successful since (FAIL: Please run fastboot oem lock begin first!)
With the 5.1 OTA, now I have the right build but with VZW written at the end. In the boot animation, I have the Verizon logo. Thanks to Mark of Motorola Forum Manager, I've had the stock XT1053 5.1 DE software to flash through fastboot, but even if the procedure is successful I cannot get rid of the VERIZON thing. I would like to use RSD Lite but I can't since it doesn't recognize the phone as connected, even if Motorola Device Manager does recognize it and the drivers are installed.
How can I do? Is there a way to really clean completely the phone and install the right software more "deeply"?
Any help will be much appreciate.
Thanks,
Luca