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Considering buying the Nexus One, help?

Hey XDA,
I've had the G1 for more than a year and a half now, and with all these new phones coming out im really considering a nexus one. But there are allota questions i still have to ask that pertain to people that actually have the phone. I'd appreciate any help.
1. I'm sick and tired of getting the newest "hottest" phone, and then realizing theres so much more just around the corner. With the EVO 4G coming out, the HTC Desire on the horizon, the new Iphone announcement most likely coming in summer - i just want to know if the nexus one is "futureproof". I've been flashing ROMs to my g1 just to keep it as close to the newest and greatest android i can get on it, but i really know now with all these snapdragon processor phones coming out the g1 aint gonna cut it. What do you guys think about the nexus one being futureproof? I'm most likely going to be flashing the latest Cynanogen or the new Desire ROMs on it when I get it. Will cooked ROMs enable me to be on par wiht the competition the Nexus will get in the coming months?
2. How does the Nexus One compare to the HTC Desire? I know they are pretty much the same phone but looking at some reviews, it seems like the Desire is much more highly touted. Since I can get the Desire ROM on my Nexus One when I get it, will the two phones really function that different? Is there a noticable speed boost with that extra about 70MB of RAM the Desire has? I've heard some things about the screen being very responsive - is the screen on the Desire different from the Nexus One? Really, what's so great about the Desire the Nexus One doesn't have?
3. Really. How fast is the Nexus One, stock and with a Cynanogen ROM? Do livewallpapers work flawlessly? Does switching from app to app happen blazing fast?
4. Is the screen that bad to use in the sunlight where its pretty much rendered unusable? I'd like to know from you guys experiencing the phone.
5. About that reception issue the Nexus One is having, is there a really high cahnce the phone I order will have the issue at this point? Is the signal reception issues really bad where I will have that much trouble getting 3g? How bad is it really? I live in NY. So if anyone of u guys live here i'd appreciate your view.
Thanks alot XDA, I'm really looking forward to some answers, and apologize for taking your time.

Greetings!
Like I always say, these are all based on my opinion and experience. You or others might think otherwise...
1- IMO the N1 will be a keeper for quiet awhile, although there might be great phones that are out or coming out, they are less likely to have the latest updates since they arent google devices, they alsi wont get as much attention from the devs compared to the N1‚ just like the G1 to Hero/Mytouch.
2- I consider the desire to be an N1 with sense UI, they're very similar, except for a few things like N1’s noise cancellation features which the desire won't have, anything the desire has however, you have the option to have in the N1 when you flash Modaco's Alpha version of the desire. ( I should say its great for being an Alpha version only).
3- I cannot stress how fast this phone is. live wallpaper works flawlessly and you have Cyanogen, Enomther, Kingklicks and other ROMs available that makes it even better.
4-AMOLED isn't as great as SUPER AMOLED, but with the auto brightness tweak that Enom and Cyan and Modaco have in their ROMs make it good enough for me.
5- I never had a problem with my order or my device, and I ordered it January so they probably fixed minor issues by now to avoid returns, still I suggest you give it a few days before unlocking and rooting ur phone just incase... As far as signal goes I think its all about the network you're on, and since the N1 will be available to all carriers if not already, pick the network that suits u best.
Good Luck brother!!!

1. Nexus one ftw, i just got my nexus one over the HTC desire paying around $260 more for nexus. Reason nexus got many pros n zero cons. Nexus one is one phone gonna live more than 2 years coz its google branded and sold by google and at max only a 1.5 ghz phone can be out in the market and its not gonna happen till mid 2011. Nexus got OC, it is developer friendly it got a big developer support, i know how it feels not to have a good developer backbone. We got all the funky, risk taking deveopers here which is going to unlikely with any other phone. Most G1 developers shifted to N1. For the screen i travel a lot around the worls and nexus has been with me in the brightest SUN. If you make the brightness around 1/2 u can see most stuff on screen, for text reading u need to turn it to full, same was with my Hero, Magic, G1 and Liquid.
For the reception Nexus is the only phone i got which has 2 bars in the basement of my mall which is 2 floor underground.
About EVO, i may have one of the biggest hand but handling HTC HD2 was nothing like holding a monster, its barely gonna look good in ur hand, u will feel awkward n clarity of Nexus will be more due to higher dpi of Nexus. and for EVO on NExus will surely run faster due to the devs we have here. Everything will be ported to nexus. Nexus will have best of both worlds VANILLA (CYANOGEN) and Sense(Paulobrien{Modaco}.
For the speed i currently have more than 413 apps on my phone last i checked n it is still faster than stock nexus one ( U know stock isnt gonna be slow). i get no Lag nothing, NO FC n battery lasts around 14-15 hours ( I use it at full brightness coz i am mostly outside and i got wifi always on, twitter checks every 5 min, 3g always on, Web browsing on the go sites like xda and gizmodo etc, n play my favourite game asphalt(almost finished, was released around 5 days ago n it is a long game), i got no complaints with nexus n i ordered it with a dock coz dock is awesome
About the Build quality- My dad threw my phone in anger on a hard marble floor from around 6 feet and it bounced 3-4 times on floor. no scratch nothing, guess i was lucky (dont try this)
I love the nexus and i am proud to say NEXUS FTW
will tel more of my expreience but gotta go, hope u get it soon

bumpitup wishing to hear even more responses!

Im having the exact same problem as you... I have the g1 currently and love the roms and all the work that the devs have put into it, but my g1 isn't cutting it anymore and i need an upgrade. I was looking at the HTC desire (im in the UK) which on tmobile will be considerably cheaper than the N1 when it gets released, but I am dubious whether the Desire is going to be right for me. I really want a phone that a lot of the devs will support so it can be as fun as the g1 was for me

Buy one i just got mine two days ago, best android phone, better then the iphone in every sense, if your into complete freedom and customization you will love it....

souljas said:
Im having the exact same problem as you... I have the g1 currently and love the roms and all the work that the devs have put into it, but my g1 isn't cutting it anymore and i need an upgrade. I was looking at the HTC desire (im in the UK) which on tmobile will be considerably cheaper than the N1 when it gets released, but I am dubious whether the Desire is going to be right for me. I really want a phone that a lot of the devs will support so it can be as fun as the g1 was for me
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wrd up man, the g1 was hella fun. but with the nexus one out now, im definitely looking for something better than the g1 - and i want that same fun, flashing different ROMs, customizing the hell out of it, showing it off, it was great. definitely stuck on purchasing the n1 though because its alot of money to invest when there are more phones just around the cornerrr

Im almost positive you guys will love the N1, specially coming from a G1. For me it'll take a lot for the competing phones to pass up the N1, unless they come out with a dual processor phone that looks as pretty as the N1, then its time to switch to a new phone.

PLanning to replace my hd2 for n1

Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks

Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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watch for screen burn-in
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I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo

Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.

i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.

Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]

Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
xSunny said:
Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779

Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.

No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.

nexus5894 said:
watch for screen burn-in
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?

Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot

Anyone here switch to Vivid from Nitro, or from Nitro to Vivid

I am a new AT&T customer, and got the Nitro based on LTE and that beautiful screen. I have always been an HTC guy, going back to the Touch Pro, so this is my first non-HTC phone.
I like the Nitro, I am not lovin' it. The hardware is awsome, the software, not so much. Battery life is not good at all, and it is laggy, which is a shock for a dual-core phone. LG is claiming ICS will be coming Q2-2012... but I am not hanging my hat on that. The biggest fear is the community support for LG is nothing near what I see for HTC devices.
My 30 days is coming up, and I am wondering if I should switch to Vivid. I am not that intersted in the Skyrocket - my wife got that and I really do not like the screen or the feel, really light and plastic feeling.
I did not play around much with the Vivid, which is something I want to do this week, but I wanted to get some feedback from the XDA community.
Thanks!

Not being biased here but I had the chance to use the Nitro, Vivid, and the GS2 and ended up with the Vivid. Battery life is great, dev support is great, and this being my first HTC phone, I'm loving Sense. It's very smooth and the quality of the built-in apps are much better than any other Android phone I've used. You can tell that HTC spends a good amount of time to make things look professional.
When I used the Nitro it just seemed as if LG wasn't trying very hard. And TouchWiz on Samsung got pretty boring. Plus the build quality of the Vivid makes it feel like you spent a couple hundred dollars on a phone.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

Before I bought my Vivid I played around with all 3 phones (Nitro, Vivid, Skyrocket). The LG Nitro seemed laggy just flipping the screens which I thought was weird considering its a store phone. I couldn't imagine what it would be like with apps running in the background. The hardware is VERY impressive so I hope the phone gets more dev support. My main choices came down to the Vivid or the Skyrocket. I thought the Skyrocket was super fast and the Vivid was right behind it. The Skyrocket screen was quite vibrant and looked amazing watching videos on youtube compared to the Vivid. That being said the Vivid OS was just a bit more polished and that sold me. True HTC Sense is a bit bloated but the vivid truly ihas vivid colors. I'm still running stock rom as im waiting for a few more roms to get cleaned up but I love the phone and do not regret my purchase. I bought it the day the bootloader was unlocked. If the Vivid did not have its bootloader unlocked I would have just gotten the Skyrocket since there are roms out for it that improve the stock OS. I hope this helps your decision.

I'm in Los Angeles, and, as far as I know, LTE is not yet official. Thus, this maybe a timing issue. But then again, maybe not--read on.
I had the Nitro. You may balk at this, but the only reason I returned it was because it didn't have an LED. I just like being able to look at the phone and know if there is a message waiting. This is one of the phones I don't carry around all the time, so it's handy. I tried but didn't like the NoLED app.
Now I have the Vivid, and I can swear that it doesn't get as good of a signal as the Nitro. In my office parking lot, I would lose service with the Nitro at basement level 2. With the Vivid, I would lose it at basement level 1 (1 level higher).
I would get LTE in many more places with the Nitro than the Vivid. I used to get Nitro at my home. I never get LTE with the Vivid now. Again, this may be ATT turning LTE off here for now.
I like the Nitro better in almost every other way. I liked the curved glass edges, I liked the screen resolution, I liked how light it is.
I may return the Vivid and wait for the Note.

[Q] Got the choice between M7 and G2.

I've been reading a couple of forum threads about this itself and I know that it's not allowed to compare 2 phones and I assure you, this is not a VS thread. I am only here for opinions. The users here own (possibly) an HTC One M7 and I find myself drawn to the M7 for only 1 reason really. The build quality, the premium feel.
However I wanted to ask you guys your opinion because you actually own the phone. If it were up to you guys, what would you advise me? HTC M7 or LG G2? Both have 32 GB storage. I know the advantages of the G2 hardware over the M7 and despite it being so sweet under the hood, I would really love to hear what you guys have to say about it.
I currently own an Xperia M. The only reason why I am migrating to another phone is because of storage. 4GB internal is honestly horrible and I feel 32 GB would do the trick. I tend to use a lot of chat applications and I am an amateur photographer too (smartphone wise that is.)
Any opinions? Purely according to you ofcourse, not trying to flame a war or anything. My intentions are simply as it appears. Just need some help deciding and the best help would most certainly come from those who own the device.

Well, I don't know who would recomend LG on this forum. Personaly, I used LG G2 and didn't like it one bit. Sure, LG is more powerfull on paper, but you need to try both phones and see which one suits you better. Camera wise, there was much talk about HTCs ultra pixel, tint issues, not so good picture quality... I, for one like it very much, even took better pictures than with Samsung Galaxy S5. One great thing about M7 is its build quality and shock resistance. I dropped my M7 many times and it left scars on it, but nothing major. My friend dropped his G2 once and his screen cracked. Dissadvantage of bezel less screen
Sent from my Xceeded black M7 UL

I owned both M7 and G2. I love both. I used more on M7 because I love the build quality, beats audio and also the camera. The only downside is the small battery . That is no way to change it although I perform serious tweak and use the best rom, no doubt. G2 is having slightly poorer development. Not much choices to play around but definitely is a great performance phone and with big battery.
I hope you make a right choice. Both are great phones. Loving them. One last thing, HTC always commit to update their devices, this is another selling point. But bear in mind, software upgrade not necessary better.
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[Q] HTC One M7 to M9 - Worth the Upgrade?

I have been using HTC One M7 for 6+ months so this phone isn't old at all. It performs just as good as if it was purchased yesterday so there are no complaints this is a truly amazing phone. However, With new devices like M9 and a little bit older M8, should you really upgrade your M7 to the latest M9?
I know that M7 is still a worthy contender in the smartphone lineup although its 2 years old now since it was first released. The only reason why I see an upgrade would be necessary is because of the great processing power that both M8 and M9 delivers, having said that I don't mean that M7 isn't fast, its superfast but sometimes there can be slight glitches and it tends to lag - this is not on day to day basis but M7 has its own moments when it acts like that.
Any suggestions are welcome, would you recommend me waiting until M10 is out and continue using M7 till then or do you believe an upgrade is necessary, I'm not a heavy smartphone user so M7 works just fine although I feel sometimes its just nicer to have faster processing power.
Thank you, any responses are appreciated.

singh_harman said:
I'm not a heavy smartphone user so M7 works just fine
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I think you just answered your own question.
If you are not an heavy user, there is no need to pay 600$ for a new device when the one you already have is only 6 months old....Wait for your M7 to die and then upgrade to another device. Thats my opinion

With all the publicity around SnapDragon processors, I decided to stay with my M7 for now. There is nothing I need from M9 (or M8 for that matter) that my M7 can't do just as well. So, my suggestion is to stick to your practically new phone at least till march when M10 should come out