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Note on CDMA?

Just curious, does anyone else think a cmda version of the note will come? I've seen rumors of the galaxy journal, but nothing set in stone, just trying to gather some opinions
Sent from my ICS Droid 3!

That was a joke, right? CDMA is sooooo 20th century!
Seriously, in Oz it used to be the canines testicles. With a crap CDMA phone I managed to get a signal from 45 kms away, and that can save your life in the outback. The signal goes in and out, as you'd expect from longwave radio, but it was at least there. Nobody else had had anything for 30 kms or more.
I now have a sat phone as a life-saver, and that is better than CDMA any day.

Looks like Samsung is pushing the note now, what with the Super Bowl commercial, so it'll be a good chance it'll come to Sprint and Verizon. I'll stick with my GSM version.

eksasol said:
Looks like Samsung is pushing the note now, what with the Super Bowl commercial, so it'll be a good chance it'll come to Sprint and Verizon. I'll stick with my GSM version.
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That's a really good point. I'm hoping they'll release a cdma one. I have Verizon and sadly wouldn't be able to switch to at&t cause of my unlimited data.
Would love to be able to join the rest of you with the monstrously awesome phone!
Sent from my ICS Droid 3!

joshpersaud said:
Just curious, does anyone else think a cmda version of the note will come? I've seen rumors of the galaxy journal, but nothing set in stone, just trying to gather some opinions
Sent from my ICS Droid 3!
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Actually there is such a device. It's customized for China Telecom, and very strange I cannot find any specs on samsung site, only some news press articles.
Here in China the device is available right now and I'm going to get one

[Q] Samsung galaxy Note N7000 or i717?

Hello all,
I have been in the market for a Samsung galaxy note for a while now. I wanted to get the unlocked version of the phone since I am with T-Mobile. Now as I researched a little more about the phone I came to know there are two different versions which are N-7000 and i-717. Also as i came to find out the N-7000 version does not support T-mobile 4g. Most of my other research also came up with a result that everyone recommend N-7000 version over i-717 because of the processor. I personally like the N-7000 because of the center home button.
I came up with this thread where it flash's the radio of the note and I was being told by one of my friend that this will allow you to be able to use it with t-mobile 4g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
As it says its only for att galaxy note so I am assuming this will not work with the international version of the note or the N-7000 version.
My job requires me to stay on the road most of the time and its really important I have high speed internet on the phone. I am from fort lauderdale, florida.
So my question is-
1. Which version of the phone should I buy?
2. The link posted above will this work with N-7000?
3. Is there any way to work the N-7000 with T-mobile 4g by flashing the radio or anything else?
4. If yes, can any of you please post a step by step instruction on how to make it work. If possible please be elaborate with your steps as I am super dumb when it comes to do hacking and all that.
5. Will the new N-7000 comes with ICS? Does that require any special thing to be done with the phone in order to work with the T-mobile 4g?
I really appreciate all your help in advance. I would be really honored if you guys can respond back as soon as possible.
Thanks
TASVIR

if your job requires fast internet, you should conclude your research and get the i717. The international note won't fit your life style. At this time, it will NOT support tmobile 4g.

Thanks.
But the i717 requires the flashing of the radio and unlocking as well to work with t-mobile 4g? Just like my link on the post mentioned?

you can unlock i717 by buying code online for $25 and about 10mins of time researching and flashing it. It's really easy. I've had i717 for tmobile myself and found out that i dont' need all the time internet. sold it...and got the n7000
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Thanks.
But the i717 requires the flashing of the radio and unlocking as well to work with t-mobile 4g? Just like my link on the post mentioned?
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So you had i-717 and then you sold it and got the n7000. If you dont mind me asking what made you switch? Is the phone is not worth all this? I am assuming now you are using the n7000 for tmobile's 3g? Hows the speed on that? if the speed is okay would you recommend n7000 over i717 based on the processors of the phones? does your n7000 required any rooting work with tmobile and its internet?

Have you looked around to see if T-Mobile is or will be offering 1900MHz HSDPA+ in your area? The N7000 supports 1900MHz on it's '3G' radio.

I just checked yes they do have 1900MHz in flortlauderdale. FL
Does this means the galaxy note N-7000 will work with t-mobile 3g as soon as I put the sim in the phone?
also
samsung-sgh-i717r-galaxy-note-lte-rogers-wireless from canada and at expansys they are selling it unlocked for 489$
Is this the same as the att galaxy note? with the root will it work with t mobile and its 4g network? I only ask cause this is cheaper than the att version of the note and it is Gnote SGH-i717R instead of Gnote SFH-i717.
This phone is driving me crazier than my ex-girlfriend.

I sold my i717 because I travel a lot oversea and I don't need the LTE feature. I sacrificed that for the better processor and smoothness. Also, I am around wifi most of the time...and I don't use much of internet when I am on the road. Speed wise, it's decent for my use....regular internet, email...and so forth. Not fast...but doable. It fits my life style better. Like I said, you've mentioned that you're on the road a lot that require fast internet access, so I suggested i717. As far as the 1900mhz in your area, don't count on it......you will need to experience it. Call tmobile and find out, or get 1900mhz phone and test it. heck you can even buy the n7000 and try....and if it doesn't work out, sell it and buy the at&t.
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So you had i-717 and then you sold it and got the n7000. If you dont mind me asking what made you switch? Is the phone is not worth all this? I am assuming now you are using the n7000 for tmobile's 3g? Hows the speed on that? if the speed is okay would you recommend n7000 over i717 based on the processors of the phones? does your n7000 required any rooting work with tmobile and its internet?
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yellowpad said:
I sold my i717 because I travel a lot oversea and I don't need the LTE feature. I sacrificed that for the better processor and smoothness. Also, I am around wifi most of the time...and I don't use much of internet when I am on the road. Speed wise, it's decent for my use....regular internet, email...and so forth. Not fast...but doable. It fits my life style better. Like I said, you've mentioned that you're on the road a lot that require fast internet access, so I suggested i717. As far as the 1900mhz in your area, don't count on it......you will need to experience it. Call tmobile and find out, or get 1900mhz phone and test it. heck you can even buy the n7000 and try....and if it doesn't work out, sell it and buy the at&t.
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Thanks yellowpad. I saw a video on the snapdragon and exynos processor. Bit scary. If with high internet speed does not work because of the processor that would such a shame. I will get the N-7000 and try. I called t-mobile and found out they support 1900 in my area. Its a hit or miss situation. Would you reccomend any site to buy it from? I tried calling expansys for million times as they dont pick up the phone and they say they are #1 in customer satisfaction. LOL

I would just wait a month for the Tmobile version, I believe its coming out the first week of july. unless you dont care about data speeds, then get whatever, but I'd rather wait a few more days and have a fully compatible device in my hands, just my humble input!

As far as i know they have different CPUs and N7000 is supposed to handle hd videos and 3d graphics better. Also, N7000 seems to have better support over here simply because it's more popular.

huggosz said:
I would just wait a month for the Tmobile version, I believe its coming out the first week of july. unless you dont care about data speeds, then get whatever, but I'd rather wait a few more days and have a fully compatible device in my hands, just my humble input!
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Thanks for your input. You know I have been researching on that as well from last night. They are saying its coming out on the 11th of July. May be before that or after. Fully compatible with T-mobile network. I would wait for that before I get mine. Only thing that scares me is if it comes with the snapdragon processor. Which is a joke over exynos processor. You can go to youtube and check some of the video's of the differences.
Samsung also said to expect snapdragon processor on all the US bound phones. So at this point i guess we only have to keep our fingers crossed and wait for the best.

Akiainavas said:
As far as i know they have different CPUs and N7000 is supposed to handle hd videos and 3d graphics better. Also, N7000 seems to have better support over here simply because it's more popular.
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Yah the N-7000 comes with exynos processor and i-717 (ATT Version) comes with snapdragon. N-7000 has better processor but low speed data and ATT is high speed data but a very slow and unsophisticated processor (if you compare with the N-7000)... its just up to the customer if they would sacrifices data over processor?? In my case I WANT BOTH...

amazon @$539....white rules! lolz
white n7000
tasvir said:
Thanks yellowpad. I saw a video on the snapdragon and exynos processor. Bit scary. If with high internet speed does not work because of the processor that would such a shame. I will get the N-7000 and try. I called t-mobile and found out they support 1900 in my area. Its a hit or miss situation. Would you reccomend any site to buy it from? I tried calling expansys for million times as they dont pick up the phone and they say they are #1 in customer satisfaction. LOL
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amazon @$539....white rules! lolz
white n7000
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Thanks...lol

Does Samsung GT-N7000 (International) work with Tmobile USA 4G?
Hi guys,
So far I have a been reading around and not really find an exact answer.
Let me ask some questions one more time.
1. Can Samsung GT-N7000 (International Version) be flash with Tmobile radio 4G to make it work with Tmobile USA 4G?
2. Anyone using a Working Samsung N7000 flashed Tmobile Radio 4G? If so, which area of USA?
Someone please be kind and advice.
Thanks in advance

S6 for AT&T locked bootloader option?

So as previous Galaxy versions, I'm pretty sure AT&T will lockdown the bootloader on the S6, so my question is, what other variant of the S6 can I buy that will fully work with AT&T's LTE network?
Thanks.

eortizr said:
So as previous Galaxy versions, I'm pretty sure AT&T will lockdown the bootloader on the S6, so my question is, what other variant of the S6 can I buy that will fully work with AT&T's LTE network?
Thanks.
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I've been wondering the same thing but I've never found a good answer. With other versions of Samsung's phones it's always "you're missing this band or that band", "this might work but that won't work." I'm not sure there is a phone you can buy that will work with AT&T as well as one of their phones without their locked down BS. I'm also on AT&T and I like the service and my plan but not the locked down bloated phones they offer. I think I'm making my next phone purchase a hard decision but every phone I look at has a major drawback. I think sometimes I should jump on the S6 from AT&T and live with the phone in it's factory state which I'm sure is awesome but I'm not sure I'd be happy with that. Will probably keep waiting, the good part is that every new phone is better than the one before it.

I currently have an ATT S5 and despise this locked bootloader. I am planning on getting a TMobile S6 because of the modding capabilities(assuming their S6 won't be locked down) and I've heard people using their TM S5's on ATT as well. But I am not sure if the unlocked/regular(?) version will support all of the ATT bands..

Honestly folks on Verizon, AT&T or others wanting to know if (and if so, how much) it will be locked down... I suggest waiting until some folks get hands-on testing with it.
The fact that it will be Exynos means much of what blocked the S5/N3/N4 doesn't apply... and the new solution is unknown.
Part of me thinks that if they're this confident to switch back to Exynos they may have developed their own alternative to the QC features.
The only way to know for sure is to test with an actual device, which won't likely happen until rollout.

If its based on the s5, the tmobile one would be the one to get. The tmobile s5 has all the tmobile bands (minus band 12 LTE) and all of the AT&T HSPA+ and LTE bands. im planning on picking up my s6 from tmobile but in the mean time, making friends with tmobile reps at my local tmobile store is essential as tmobile doesnt like selling their devices without a plan.

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If its based on the s5, the tmobile one would be the one to get. The tmobile s5 has all the tmobile bands (minus band 12 LTE) and all of the AT&T HSPA+ and LTE bands. im planning on picking up my s6 from tmobile but in the mean time, making friends with tmobile reps at my local tmobile store is essential as tmobile doesnt like selling their devices without a plan.
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Well, out of curiousity I checked - lo and behold, the FCC docs are available this week.
LTE Bands for SM-G920T are.... 12,1 2/17 (share same frequency in some cases), 5, 4 and 2.

garwynn said:
Well, out of curiousity I checked - lo and behold, the FCC docs are available this week.
LTE Bands for SM-G920T are.... 12,1 2/17 (share same frequency in some cases), 5, 4 and 2.
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Got a link to the doc?

osmosizzz said:
Got a link to the doc?
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http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/
Grantee Code: A3L
Product Code: SMG920T
Go into the detail records and you'll find all the nitty gritty details including LTE tests.
Just wish could see the rest of the confidential docs that the FCC gets to see...

garwynn said:
http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/
Grantee Code: A3L
Product Code: SMG920T
Go into the detail records and you'll find all the nitty gritty details including LTE tests.
Just wish could see the rest of the confidential docs that the FCC gets to see...
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Looking at the Verizon docs for both the S6 and S6 Edge, they both are missing Appendix F, which is where the DUT Antenna Locations are indicated.
So the primary document of interest is missing...
I don't get it, how can you just not post that information?

xdadevnube said:
Looking at the Verizon docs for both the S6 and S6 Edge, they both are missing Appendix F, which is where the DUT Antenna Locations are indicated.
So the primary document of interest is missing...
I don't get it, how can you just not post that information?
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The summary list, instead of detail, shows all docs submitted and if they are confidential.
I'll bet it's in there and confidential.

garwynn said:
The summary list, instead of detail, shows all docs submitted and if they are confidential.
I'll bet it's in there and confidential.
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Most modern phones I have looked at have the DUT Antenna Location diagram listed. The Nexus 6 is listed. Other modern phones have it missing though, and it seems that Sprint's may have it listed when Verizon's does not (I think the Note 4 is an example, but that is just from my memory.) The Sprint model isn't up yet so I have my fingers crossed.
I knew from the Nexus 6 FCC docs that there was no simultaneous voice and data on either EVDO or LTE because there was a single shared antenna. I am curious if the S6 is same way.

garwynn said:
The summary list, instead of detail, shows all docs submitted and if they are confidential.
I'll bet it's in there and confidential.
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" The requested Permanent and Short-Term Confidential exhibits are listed as follows:
PERMANENT AND SHORT-TERM CONFIDENTIAL LIST
Exhibit Description
PERMANENT
1 Block Diagram
2 Operational Description
3 Schematics
4 Parts List & Tune-Up Procedure
SHORT-TERM
5 External Photos
6 Internal Photos
7 Test-Setup Photos
8 Users Manual "
Perhaps you are correct. That would be lame.

Update: The same confidentiality letter for the S6 is listed for several different phones, including the Note 4.
I just checked the docs and both Sprint and Verizon (maybe the T-Mobile and AT&T as well) show the antenna location diagram.
The confidentiality letter therefore doesn't cover the antenna location diagram. For the S6, the antenna location diagram is being described as listed in Appendix F, which is not included in the FCC listing. Perhaps it will be listed at a later time, but I suspect that it isn't confidential, it is just not available.
However, for the those of you interested, the S6 IS NOT capable of simultaneous voice and LTE, according the docs. You would have be on VoLTE. The same for goes for HTC m9. Pretty disappointing. Of the phones I've actually considered recently (Nexus 6, Droid Turbo, HTC m9, and Samsung S6), none of the them can do voice and LTE on Verizon...

We should send ATT/Samsung a message
When it comes out I plan on buying one or two phones(128Gb S6 Edge they will be more exp) and opening them both then returning them in a week or two if they have a locked bootloader. Then I plan on buying and returning them every couple of weeks. This should cost AT&T $$$. If everyone on XDA does it perhaps we can hurt their bottom line and they will get the message not to be assholes.

cciechad said:
When it comes out I plan on buying one or two phones(128Gb S6 Edge they will be more exp) and opening them both then returning them in a week or two if they have a locked bootloader. Then I plan on buying and returning them every couple of weeks. This should cost AT&T $$$. If everyone on XDA does it perhaps we can hurt their bottom line and they will get the message not to be assholes.
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What??? You have a lot of free time on your hands, maybe you should go work at AT&T for free so they will appreciate you as you do them!
Seriously though, you can't be serious!?!?
Sent from my SM-G900T using AllianceR(●)m

The Sprint Galaxy S3 was the first Android device I ever owned. I found out pretty quick that I did not like TouchWiz so I found out how to root and flash a custom recovery and that's when I fell in love with stock Android.
Anyways, I'm on AT&T now with a HTC One M8. I love the phone, but I really wish the camera were better. The only thing keeping me from instantly wanting a M9 is no optical image stabilization AGAIN.
So, with that said, and after reading through everything in this thread, if the bootloader is locked down on the AT&T Galaxy S6, does that mean we will not be able to achieve root? I'm not worried about flashing ROMs and stuff, I mainly just want root to run root apps like xposed and greenify.

eortizr said:
So as previous Galaxy versions, I'm pretty sure AT&T will lockdown the bootloader on the S6, so my question is, what other variant of the S6 can I buy that will fully work with AT&T's LTE network?
Thanks.
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I'm exploring the same alternative at this point. In fact I am looking at the South Korean variants currently at this point which follow the SM-G920s/k/L variants. On my current LG G3 F400S which operates under the carrier SK Telecom, AT&T LTE works flawlessly, not to mention the device was 1 of the first devices to get 5.0 back in November. I'm still researching these variants, but if all checks out, this is the direction I will be going.

I really think you guys are getting a bit ahead of yourselves. Using the S3/4/5 or Note 3/4 as a basis of comparison for the S6 doesn't work.
Remember, with the S6 going Exynos we don't have a recent frame of reference to gauge against. The closest comparison is the Note II.

garwynn said:
Well, out of curiousity I checked - lo and behold, the FCC docs are available this week.
LTE Bands for SM-G920T are.... 12,1 2/17 (share same frequency in some cases), 5, 4 and 2.
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So is that fully compatible with AT&T LTE or no?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G850A

cciechad said:
When it comes out I plan on buying one or two phones(128Gb S6 Edge they will be more exp) and opening them both then returning them in a week or two if they have a locked bootloader. Then I plan on buying and returning them every couple of weeks. This should cost AT&T $$$. If everyone on XDA does it perhaps we can hurt their bottom line and they will get the message not to be assholes.
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ALL ATT Phones have locked bootloaders - they made that announcment after the S4 -the ATT S6 is going to be locked bootloader. Guaranteed.
TMOBILE PHONES work on ATT just fine. I have been doing this since the Note 3 came out. unfortunately, the TMOBILE S6 cannot be unlocked for use on other carriers without the help of TMOBILE - and their policy is that you have to use the phone for three months before they will give you an unlock code.
You can't buy an unlock code online for it - because TMOBILE has an app that has to be used to unlock the SIM for use on other carriers. So unless someone comes up with a workaround, if you buy a TMOBILE S6, you will be stuck on TMOBILE with it for three months or so - unless something significant changes before then.
I tried to unlock the sim so I can use it on ATT (like I did all of my previous phones) and his is what I have learned. I am hoping that someone can figure out a secret samsung code that will unlock it but I am not real sure that will happen - fingers crossed...

Questions from an AT&T Note 4 user

One a week I come to this note 4 forum and look at all the cool roms and stuff for the note 4 on tmobile. I have to admit I'm jealous that I can't root (my att note 4 is carrier unlocked and I'm on tmobile btw). But, do people think it is worth it to sell my note on Swappa and pick up a used tmobile version so I can root it?
In past experience, sometimes, the stock rom is more stable than many or most rooms. The trade off of a little speed /looks is instability (I had the original note on att, roms on that always crashed).
Would the quality of (upgraded?) experience be worth the loss of some cash and time if I made the jump to a tmobile note 4?
Note: I really wish I could change the messed up title of this thread, damn tapatalk app

I did it and don't regret it for a second!

Bought a T-Mobile Note 4 off swappa. Sold my Verizon Note 4 on swappa once my ETF paid off. Reasoning: Was tired of paying the higher costs for given service + wanted a "root-able" device.
One thing to consider. (Especially if you are not under contract currently with AT&T) You don't have to choose T-Mobile as your carrier. (Depending on your area...) I planned to stay with T-Mobile, however, the reception amongst other issues chased me to "Cricket Wireless" - which gives you AT&T towers. No looking back for me. It's like going from the darkness to daylight. At least in my area.
Good luck! :good:

Bought an AT&T note 4 on contract when they first came out. Got sick of not having root so I sold it on Craigs list a week later and bought the Tmobile version in cash. Haven't looked back since. Best decision I could have made. Att has better service where I live, so I kept them, but the Tmobile phone with the unlocked bootloader is by far the best.
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I had the AT&T Note 4, loved it but I wanted root. I gave that phone to my wife, bought a T-Mobile version for myself. Note I'm very happy (after fixing some issues with the phone)

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grmcrkrs said:
I had the AT&T Note 4, loved it but I wanted root. I gave that phone to my wife, bought a T-Mobile version for myself. Note I'm very happy (after fixing some issues with the phone)
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Thanks for the reply, but can you say that there is a major difference between your phone and your wifes? I don't want to sell my att note 4 and pick up the tmobile and then, a few weeks down the line think, "wow, this is basically the same as my old note 4."
Grass looks greener over here but I am wondering if it really is

Is basically the same thing. But I can have multiple Clash of Clans accounts now, I can take ads out of stuff, I can our new romz on if I want, which I have, and that stuff is fun for me. I'm not happy with stock TW

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Thanks for the reply, but can you say that there is a major difference between your phone and your wifes? I don't want to sell my att note 4 and pick up the tmobile and then, a few weeks down the line think, "wow, this is basically the same as my old note 4."
Grass looks greener over here but I am wondering if it really is
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You're not going to think the two are the same thing, UNLESS you buy it and stupidly keep Touchwiz and do not install a better custom ROM. I have AT&T and have a T-mobile Note 4. You get better service with a better (read unlocked/rootable) device. You are free to take advantage of all the MUCH BETTER ROMs out there if you have the T-mobile version.
For instance, a shameless plug for the @temasek ROM. I had it on my Note 3, and now my Note 4. I daresay it is the best CM12.1 ROM you can get for a Note 4, and I don't say that lightly.

grmcrkrs said:
I had the AT&T Note 4, loved it but I wanted root. I gave that phone to my wife, bought a T-Mobile version for myself. Note I'm very happy (after fixing some issues with the phone)
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Could you elaborate on the issues? I'm about fed up with no root and it not looking promising on the att note 4. Going to switch to tmobile version but want to make sure im not messing up by doing so.

ThePublisher said:
Could you elaborate on the issues? I'm about fed up with no root and it not looking promising on the att note 4. Going to switch to tmobile version but want to make sure im not messing up by doing so.
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The issues were dropped calls, only 1 second of internet, randomly no text messages. The reason was that the IMEI was tampered with, and not done correctly. I was able to get in touch with someone who could fix it, now it'd working perfectly fine. In fact I have another one just like it for sale. But yeah, it was an off the wall issue, not your normal affair.

On AT&T, but where to get 64gb unlocked version

Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.

Ogawa said:
Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck

I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!

cortez.i said:
T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
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I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!

Ogawa said:
Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.

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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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Thanks for the reference thread. I've been searching, but didn't come across that one. I've downloaded the app and unfortunately, it looks like 17 is my primary band at my office. I'll keep it up and will monitor across the city. Very helpful!
I did find the unlocker's thread and am watching there as well. Let me know how it goes for you.

he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.

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he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Eek!

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he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse

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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)

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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...

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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go

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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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I think that's gotta be a mistake. According to TMO's site, it doesn't have LTE 17 and they're standard frequencies.
But, the question for me will be how strong LTE4 is. It might be enough. I'm trying to figure out how to disable 17 on my OPO for testing...

band 17, at&t!
intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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wdkingery said:
band 17, at&t!
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Wait, what?

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Wait, what?
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intifadamericana said:
I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?
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intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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That all took place in this thread.

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That all took place in this thread.
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...

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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot

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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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I posted at him as well, but didn't think about a screenshot. Good idea.