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Last night on my brand new One, I was wifi tethering when I got the message that the phone was using more current than the charger could provide. This was on ac power, which the phone indicated. I never had this problem on the previous One that I exchanged for a screen problem. The phone will literally run its battery to zero sitting on the charger.
It is happening still after multiple reboots and different chargers/sockets.
Is this a faulty battery? Faulty charging circuit? How would I go about finding out?
well if you got the coconuts you could hook a vom to the battery and then the charger and see the difference...
Sent from my rooted unlocked rommed HTC One, on the Sprint network.
The charger that comes with the HTC One is a joke... 1,000mAh. I only use 2,000mAh chargers. I don't know how much amperage the One can pull with the fast-charge feature disabled in firmware, though.
ScrapMaker said:
The charger that comes with the HTC One is a joke... 1,000mAh. I only use 2,000mAh chargers. I don't know how much amperage the One can pull with the fast-charge feature disabled in firmware, though.
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I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure the fast charge feature is only so it will pull a higher current on USB charging mode. Thus far I haven't had any issues with my stock 1000 mah chargers I have laying around. The only time I lose power while charging is when I'm on a weak charger like my BlackBerry or samsung charger (750 and 800 mah)
Here goes.....
I've been struggling with charging this phone. I have both the Sprint and the T-Mobile versions and I'm seeing the exact same thing with both. This phone simply won't pull more than roughly 600ma from a charger. With the best of equipment (chargers, cables, clean regulated power, etc etc) a ~600ma (+/- 15ma) is all I ever see at max draw.
I've tried all sorts of chargers including several stock. Same for cables. I know some cables are crappier than others and can restrict current....those that I found did that were tossed in the trash (don't want to keep the fubar cables anyway).
The phones have been in various states of operation too....from one extreme to the other....under heavy benchmark load to "first run" state from a complete reset (full wipe) with airplane mode on.
I said I have a "problem" above. What I mean is that my use-case is such that I use navigation with bluetooth streaming for podcast listening during my commute to and from work everyday. While I'm at work I plug into my TV to playback video podcasts via MHL. At best.....BEST....I can maintain my current state of battery. In other words, if I'm 39%, it'll stay thereabout when I'm plugged into a charger in either case.
No..."Power Saver" doesn't help. What I think would actually help is if power saver had the ability to disable some cores in addition to just governing to 1.1Ghz across all four.
To have a kickass phone that you really honestly can't truly kick ass with feels weird. This thing simply discharges faster than it can charge under any real world load. Maybe my personal use case is unconventional but I feel like it's not THAT unconventional seeing as that the features I use wouldn't be built in if no one ever used them, ya know?
I first noticed this behavior with my previous phone, the EVO 4G LTE. Even though the behavior was there, it wasn't as bad or noticeable due to what I think is the fact it was only dual core...maybe other factors too. But I'm not a developer/engineer so my observations are only from the outside looking in.
I know I can "tweak" my behaviors -- "...do this, or do that. Disable this, or disable that." I understand these things. But having to disable a bunch of things sorta goes against the idea of having this device in the first place.
At the end of day, my observations are my own and I know some are going to suggest I'm "holding it wrong" or whatever, but you guys gotta admit there's something up here with the very limited charge rate.
All that said, I still enjoy the phone. :angel:
PS - I've been using this to monitor current/voltage. The tool has been verified to be working properly by two EE's at my work.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SATA-Cables-Voltage-Current/dp/B005Z1E3IY
The stock charger. How much does that one show it pulls?
Because I have a 1a charger for my car and I can have the screen on the entire time and it charges, slower, but it charges.
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The stock charger. How much does that one show it pulls?
Because I have a 1a charger for my car and I can have the screen on the entire time and it charges, slower, but it charges.
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Same same.....doesn't matter the charger capability. Peak draw at any one time seems to be roughly 600ma...+/-. As the charge of the phone gets closer to full, the rate tapers off to roughly 200ma and then to about 80ma as it gets really really close.
I know HTC is trying to protect the battery, but I really get the feeling that this is way over-protective.
I took a picture with my Sprint ONE of my T-Mobile ONE on a 2.1amp wall charger. Notice, at roughly 1/2 charge, it's only pulling about 600ma. Too daggon slow in my opinion.
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Same same.....doesn't matter the charger capability. Peak draw at any one time seems to be roughly 600ma...+/-. As the charge of the phone gets closer to full, the rate tapers off to roughly 200ma and then to about 80ma as it gets really really close.
I know HTC is trying to protect the battery, but I really get the feeling that this is way over-protective.
I took a picture with my Sprint ONE of my T-Mobile ONE on a 2.1amp wall charger. Notice, at roughly 1/2 charge, it's only pulling about 600ma. Too daggon slow in my opinion.
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I assume you mean a 2.1a charger from a Samsung product, that won't work. Samsung uses some signaling on the D+/D- wires to show "This is a Samsung product, charge at 2.1a"
HTC One does not have the ability to offer this signaling and thus will charge at usb rates of 500-600.
Some products short the data wires of the USB to signal that it can supply extra power. This is the type of signaling the HTC One can use. You would need a charger with this capability.
If you don't mind, if you could take a picture of the same setup with the stock charger, that would help.
EDIT: This particular device you've linked seems to block any signaling, according to the reviews on Amazon. I think your problem may lie there.
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I assume you mean a 2.1a charger from a Samsung product, that won't work. Samsung uses some signaling on the D+/D- wires to show "This is a Samsung product, charge at 2.1a"
HTC One does not have the ability to offer this signaling and thus will charge at usb rates of 500-600.
Some products short the data wires of the USB to signal that it can supply extra power. This is the type of signaling the HTC One can use. You would need a charger with this capability.
If you don't mind, if you could take a picture of the same setup with the stock charger, that would help.
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I understand what you mean. Note that in all my rambling on about various cables and chargers, if I wasn't explicit, I was implicit in that I've tried HTC stock gear too. Same results, no matter.
I do own and did try a few Samsung chargers and cables in addition to the myriad of others. I'm aware of Samsung's irritating attempts to lock people into using their accessories, thus the signaling modifications, but wanted to try them anyway. That's why I used a whole bunch of different chargers and cables. Some are not-so-good and others are great. The one charger I prefer is from VENTEV. It's a dual-port 4.2amp (2.1/per) wallwart.
http://www.amazon.com/Ventev-Wall-Charger-Dual-2-1A/dp/B00BEJSRDI
What I'm saying overall is that the big picture here suggests that we can't pull more than the peak 600ma or so charge rate, no matter what combination of doo-dads you toss at the phone. I'm all in if HTC has some super-secret special vapor rub one can use to charge faster, but even the stock charger they give us in the box which supports 1AMP doesn't deliver that since the phone itself doesn't pull more than what I've seen.
In the attached pics, the one of the charger is the Ventev. The other three show my T-mobile ONE just hit 90% charge and the rate has dipped to about 400ma on average. I took three snaps to show that it does fluctuate a bit. It'll ramp down more at about 95% or so and even more at 99%...................ALL of which is to be expected, I know.
To be clear, at this point, and what you see in these pics, is the stock HTC wall charger that we all get in the box with the phone, the stock HTC microUSB cable, and the measuring tool that is plugged into charger which the cable is then plugged into to then charge the phone. The meter can handle just over 2amps before it pops the internal fuse.
-Doug, KG3EK
dougxd said:
I understand what you mean. Note that in all my rambling on about various cables and chargers, if I wasn't explicit, I was implicit in that I've tried HTC stock gear too. Same results, no matter.
I do own and did try a few Samsung chargers and cables in addition to the myriad of others. I'm aware of Samsung's irritating attempts to lock people into using their accessories, thus the signaling modifications, but wanted to try them anyway. That's why I used a whole bunch of different chargers and cables. Some are not-so-good and others are great. The one charger I prefer is from VENTEV. It's a dual-port 4.2amp (2.1/per) wallwart.
http://www.amazon.com/Ventev-Wall-Charger-Dual-2-1A/dp/B00BEJSRDI
What I'm saying overall is that the big picture here suggests that we can't pull more than the peak 600ma or so charge rate, no matter what combination of doo-dads you toss at the phone. I'm all in if HTC has some super-secret special vapor rub one can use to charge faster, but even the stock charger they give us in the box which supports 1AMP doesn't deliver that since the phone itself doesn't pull more than what I've seen.
In the attached pics, the one of the charger is the Ventev. The other three show my T-mobile ONE just hit 90% charge and the rate has dipped to about 400ma on average. I took three snaps to show that it does fluctuate a bit. It'll ramp down more at about 95% or so and even more at 99%...................ALL of which is to be expected, I know.
To be clear, at this point, and what you see in these pics, is the stock HTC wall charger that we all get in the box with the phone, the stock HTC microUSB cable, and the measuring tool that is plugged into charger which the cable is then plugged into to then charge the phone. The meter can handle just over 2amps before it pops the internal fuse.
-Doug, KG3EK
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I was directed here from another section of the forum. Have you tried using this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
With the stock charger it's telling me that I'm pulling in just under 950mA during peak charging and tapering off as it gets full.
i used a samsung 0,7C charger and it charges at a conntat +800 mah
the HTC chargers also sometime speaks a 900mah + but typically aroung 200 - 700 mah +
it seesm t fluctuate more often than the samsung which fluctuates to a lwoer range when bnearing 100% charge.
Dude, I have the same problem with my EVO LTE, exactly as you describe it, but for some weird reason, my car charger charges my phone normally while other chargers will take several hours to fully charge. I really hope it's a problem with the chargers and not our phones :thumbup: :thumbdown:
Sent from my EVO
Hi. So based on what people have posted, does this mean that there isn't much difference charging it from the wall socket and from a usb port in a computer? Since then charging rate is around 700-600mah and a usb charges at around 500mah
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-doesnt-support-qualcomm-quick-charge-20130509/
So I download that app, and no matter what I do with my settings, I cannot get my phone to charger faster than about 550mAh. I am currently running at 384MHz CPU, 200MHz GPU, and Force Charge (On/Off), and 50mV undervolt. With the phone just laying there (screen on 65% battery), as I stare it currently saying +529mA (+23.00% /h).
I just tried playing a game, with those same exact settings and it stated charging at +217mah.
Edit: Was redirected here and didn't notice it was an old topic. sorry for reviving?
So now that samsung decided to remove the battery, it would only make sense to have a portable battery pack handy.
A friend of mine let me borrow his RAVPower 15,000mAh power pack and i have been testing it on my S4 to see how well it works, so far i am impressed with it, but i've only charged the phone twice, trying to see how many charges i can get out of it. will update this thread and post a better review of it later when i get better impressions of it. i also have an brand new Anker power pack i will be testing later on. primarily interested in charge speed rather than charge cycles. will update this post a bit later with more information and power packs.
link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MQSMEEE/
I found this article linked in another thread over at Android Central http://www.phonearena.com/news/Doub...honeSuits-snap-on-Flex-Pocket-Charger_id66907 and this is a nice pocketable charger that doesn't require you to have a cable on hand to charge.
Here is PhoneSuits page http://www.phonesuit.com/phonesuit-...-smartphones?gclid=CJ35qJvdk8QCFRMatAod43cAAg and its listed at $49.95.
that's quite a bit of money for only 2600mAh, guess it's small so that is a plus, but if you want something that can charge several phones with one charge i would go with something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NWEB49W/
it even doubles up as an actual wall charger.
smaller than a pack of cigarettes and a bit cheaper than that 2600mAh power pack.
I have this one. It's 10,000 mah, which is pretty good for the price.
http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte®-10...UTF8&qid=1426265278&sr=1-3&keywords=powerbank
It takes about two hours to charge, and then to charge my dead s5 takes about 1 hr and 45 minutes.
I have a Samsung one with 10000mAh and it is pretty good. With a 2000-3000mAh you are not even going to charge the phone up once, so pretty much useless.
I have been using Anker 2nd gen Astro2 for a year now , looks good with plenty of juice , and as per manufacture specs it can push out 3 Amps , 3 Amps is useless on my S4 but it should be perfect for S6.
Looking for a powerbank that supports fast charging for the s6
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I have few round up here few days back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/accessories/power-bank-capable-adaptive-fast-t3048671
Please mention the Phone you have &
How many times does the Power bank charge the phone when its fully drained
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Looking for a powerbank that supports fast charging for the s6
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forget finding a "fast charge" on portable chargers. highly unlikely you will find one. maybe in the future when someone figures out and implement some kind of voltage step-up regulator as it's a limitation right now since to get fast charge to work you need 9 Volt output and current portable chargers can only output @ 5 volts. it's basically a limitation on the internal li-ion batteries, they can only output 4-5V.
your best bet is to get something like the Anker 16,000mAh for high capacity and pretty fast charging, it can output 5V at 2.1A, it will charge most phones (Galaxy S4, S5) in about 1 and 1/2 hours from about 8% battery left on the phone. you might only shave off only 15-20 minutes using a samsung wall fast charger, so it's really not a whole lot difference..
Anker 16,000mAh 2nd gen:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2T7U90/
it will charge an S4 or S5 roughly 5 times with a single charge.
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forget finding a "fast charge" on portable chargers. highly unlikely you will find one. maybe in the future when someone figures out and implement some kind of voltage step-up regulator as it's a limitation right now since to get fast charge to work you need 9 Volt output and current portable chargers can only output @ 5 volts. it's basically a limitation on the internal li-ion batteries, they can only output 4-5V.
your best bet is to get something like the Anker 16,000mAh for high capacity and pretty fast charging, it can output 5V at 2.1A, it will charge most phones (Galaxy S4, S5) in about 1 and 1/2 hours from about 8% battery left on the phone. you might only shave off only 15-20 minutes using a samsung wall fast charger, so it's really not a whole lot difference..
Anker 16,000mAh 2nd gen:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2T7U90/
it will charge an S4 or S5 roughly 5 times with a single charge.
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I have already got that power bank..thnx any ways
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I've a TP-link 10400MAH, it's very good
i got the mi powerbank 10400mAh, its charging my lg g3 quite fast (output rated 2A).
never looked how long exactly it takes, but i will do that when i get my edge.
it's using standard lithium cells from samsung/lg.
i think it's also possible to change them, have to investigate this.
So yesterday I bought a 2.0 charger off of amazon with the choe brand name. According to the ad it works with nearly every android phone, including the HTC one m8. For the past year I have been using a charger from my last phone which was a crappy flip phone and thought nothing of it, but I am wondering does this charger truly work?? According to app "Ampere" it is much slower. Also, I've read reports about phones heating up and that's what mine did last night, is that normal? How long should it take for me to full charge my HTC one m8?
It will heat up, that is normal. It'll use most of its 2.4A between 20 and 70% and then slow down. Your total charge time shouldn't take more than 1 hour, and make sure you're using the supplied cable.
Thanks for the response! So if it doesn't charge 1 to 100 in 1 hour than is something wrong? Also will a charger like this have any effect on how long my battery lasts? My last charger for whatever reason was for my last flip phone believe it or not, I never bought a new one.
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Thanks for the response! So if it doesn't charge 1 to 100 in 1 hour than is something wrong? Also will a charger like this have any effect on how long my battery lasts? My last charger for whatever reason was for my last flip phone believe it or not, I never bought a new one.
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no I wouldn't say that.
my 2.0 QC will get it done in about 1-2 hours compared to the 3-5 or so it took with stock charger.
0-100% will take more than an hour. I've timed mine a few times from 0-100%, not using the phone at all and in airplane mode waking it up every 5 minutes to check percentage, volts, and charge rate using Gsam batt monitor.
Comparing the two chargers (OEM HTC QC 2.0, and original HTC charger- which I believe is QC 1.0) the QC 2.0 is definitely faster. Even though there is nothing on the phone telling you it is using the higher wattage charging mode, it is. So, 0 to 100% using HTC's QC2, usually takes around 1:20 minutes if I remember right. As in the other post, it starts out rather slow to around 20%, then kicks in to high gear until around 80%, then slows back down all the way to 100% so as to not overcharge the battery and harm it. It really is amazing the speed that it charges at. It does get rather warm, which is normal, but shouldn't hurt the phone.
Now, completely draining and recharging these batteries frequently is not good for them and will decrease the useful life sooner. Keeping it somewhere around 80 % is ideal but realistically not practical and the manufacturers know that. That's why they build in overcharge circuitry protection so leaving the charger on all the time "shouldn't" harm the battery. Draining it down to zero and doing a full recharge cycle on it frequently WILL decrease the lifespan. The batterie's useful life is basically determined by a finite number of charge cycles.
There's tons of info on charging and batteries out there if you are looking for more reading too.
Anyone heard of the brand Auzen? It's popping up alot on aliexpress and around asian market. Not too much reviews yet on that brand.
don't play with quick chargers .I bloated my m8 batt once trying it .it charge at 2.4a .our device max is 1.5a.
If you insist using it then don't full charge with it n monitor closely .
That's impressive, I use a QC2.0 car charger, I use a variety of wall chargers that run from 1.0A to 2.3A at 5V.
So far, my battery is still very happy.
Sounds like you got a cheap knock off charger or your battery/charging circuitry was damaged/faulty and/or your ROM/firmware weren't proper, for that kind of damage to occur.
I don't think Ampere works. I once did a test (last month) and had 6 different USB cables and I wanted to see which was the best, every time I used one I got a different reading, from 200 up to 1600. Even using my Anker Quick Charge 2.0 I only got 400 so it stated.
I have been using Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 and gives pretty decent charge times.
I have a QUICK Changer 2.0. works great.. have some tips...
You know there is some colors on cable conectors ends you have to choose the right one..
- If the cable is not a quality one can result to slow charging.
Black ----- 1.0. most in stock phones
White------ 2.0. the right for fast charging...
The time on reaching 100% on battery,well Quickly charger 2.0 will reach 80% on your battery fast and it will change the next 20% slower...
There is some app in playstore can help can see the amperage live in mA..
Connect your charger to get the battery charging current or disconnect it and get the negative discharging current... and you can see your battery charging current mA is constantly changing because even on charging phone still using current (negative discharging current) and this is always changing.
On my case I see higher mA reading only under really low battery...
I have a problem with my m8 and aukey 2.0 quick charger....
After firmware update to 6.12.xxx.xxx mm , the app ampere tell me max 1600ma before update its tell 2000ma .. Its a bug or a feature of the new firmware base...??? I have cyanogenmod 13
Im using the same aukey 2.0 quick charger. Works perfect.
M8 is 1.5a max .if you use 2.0a logically you're overcharging it. Just wait for it to get bloat n replace the whole bat. worth it ?
Hi, i just wanted to say something. After many bad chargers i bought, i found the Nillkin chargers (2Amps)and Nillkin cables (2.1Amp) the best and best quality. I am always testing with good Usb voltage tester and it can charge up to 1.5 amps max on M8 and on LG G3 1.8 Amps. As long as the charger is 5.0V, amps can variate and it doesnt hurt your battery, it just charges slower or faster. In my case its charging 1% per minute on both phones. It doesn't matter if the cable is black, white, green... cables must be thick, around 18AWG that support high ampers which mean faster charging. thin cables are sh!#. And for car i also found the Scosche dual charger great for every device with Nillkin 30cm cables and Kenu airframe holder.
You can use 2.4A chargers on M8 without problem as it will only receive 1.5amps.
GL
I'm using Anker PowerPort 1+. It's very good and you can use for iPhone iPad & almost Android devices.
I bought it here: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Samsung-Wireless/dp/B014F3D8FQ
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M8 is 1.5a max .if you use 2.0a logically you're overcharging it.
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That logic is incorrect. The phone will only draw as many amps as its rated for (1.5 amps) regardless of what the charger is rated to supply. Think of the charger amp rating as the "maximum it can supply" instead of "what it will always supply".
henryrk said:
M8 is 1.5a max .if you use 2.0a logically you're overcharging it. Just wait for it to get bloat n replace the whole bat. worth it ?
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Ampere shows max charge rate for me at 2000ma. Where do you get the idea it will overcharge?
Dear all, As you can see from the title I want to know what's currently the fastest way to charge the HTC One M7, The supplied HTC charger which comes when you purchase the phone charges the phone way too slow, takes almost 3 full hours to charge from 0 - 100% and when you are using your phone at the same time it tends to charge even slower hence extending the 3 hour time required for a full charge. I know that HTC has released some sort of new charger that is meant to charge up the device a lot more quickly but I am not sure whether that one is compatible with the M7 or only with the newer HTC devices.
Also, if that charger is not compatible then are there any other 3rd party chargers compared to the HTC's own charger that will charge up the device more quickly ? The HTC's own charger is 1A whereas some on the market are 2.4A etc
Please any suggestions as to what charger is faster and more effective also please send links where I can purchase it.
Thanks.
You want a 2.0amp charger and a 24/28awg USB cable. That will shorten the time to about less two hours . you won't get quick charging ability but it will be an improvement.
Dear @eosman
Many thanks for your reply, can I kindly ask you to provide me with any links that you may have about the 2amp chargers which are good in your viewpoint for the M7. Also im not quite sure what cable you are talking about so if you can send me a link to for example eBay or Amazon where sellers may be selling these cables. As I might want to buy.
Thank you!
HTC Rapid Charger for M7. U can find em on HTC.com or Amazon. It states that it will charge this phone up to 40% faster than stock oem charger.. and it actually does..
@ bdizzle 1686,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes I have heard about the HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 however, I have seen some other chargers also that are much higher in Amp than this one so question is will that charge the device even faster?
This HTC Rapid Charger is only 1.65A/ 1.25A in output whereas there are some chargers that go up to 2.4A so are those an even better choice or should you avoid them because there is a chance they can harm the device ?
Please let me know.
singh_harman said:
@ bdizzle 1686,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes I have heard about the HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 however, I have seen some other chargers also that are much higher in Amp than this one so question is will that charge the device even faster?
This HTC Rapid Charger is only 1.65A/ 1.25A in output whereas there are some chargers that go up to 2.4A so are those an even better choice or should you avoid them because there is a chance they can harm the device ?
Please let me know.
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The rapid charger will be a big improvement compared to the 1.0amp stock charger. Going from 1.65amps to 2.0 amps will get you a 'little' bit more but the HTC M7 will only charge so quickly. Anything over 2.0 is useless for the M7. HTC only allows the M7 to be charged at a certain amperage to prevent the battery from being damaged/ overheating.
@eosman,
Can I please ask you to send me links to Amazon or eBay website whereby I can get this rapid charger 2.0. I have found many but they aren't HTC original product they are just third party chargers.
So if you find any decent priced and its original htc product then please send me a link.
Thanks for the information regarding the charging, I also kinda realized that anything over 2A would be useless as i tried a charger which was 2.4A and there wasn't much improvement in charge time as compared to 2.1A maybe. Also the rapid charges supports Qualcomm Quick Charge which is again a plus point to use with smartphones which use in-built Qualcomm processor chips.