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I recently bough a Tilt with a 2G SD card and have been trying to get educated on WM as well as this phone. I did "remove the bloatware", installed KaiserTweak and a few others, and have begun to wonder what is the best practice in choosing the "device" vs. "storage card" as far as performance goes. Are there rules of thumb as far as certain apps or types of apps that will really run better when installed to the device? Thanks.
-Bob
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I recently bough a Tilt with a 2G SD card and have been trying to get educated on WM as well as this phone. I did "remove the bloatware", installed KaiserTweak and a few others, and have begun to wonder what is the best practice in choosing the "device" vs. "storage card" as far as performance goes. Are there rules of thumb as far as certain apps or types of apps that will really run better when installed to the device? Thanks.
-Bob
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If you have an application that is constantly running (such as today plugins) etc. in the background, then install them on the device. For other apps such as games or other misc programs that you run on demand, install them on the storage card.
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If you have an application that is constantly running (such as today plugins) etc. in the background, then install them on the device. For other apps such as games or other misc programs that you run on demand, install them on the storage card.
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Thank you. So to further clarify, once an app is loaded and executing it is irrelevant where it loaded from, but the actual initial load will be faster from the device than the storage card and that's where the payoff is?
rbade said:
Thank you. So to further clarify, once an app is loaded and executing it is irrelevant where it loaded from, but the actual initial load will be faster from the device than the storage card and that's where the payoff is?
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As far as app loading time is concerned, you won't really notice the difference at all. But like I wrote before, if you have programs like today plugins or task manager, etc., install them on phone memory.
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Thank you. So to further clarify, once an app is loaded and executing it is irrelevant where it loaded from, but the actual initial load will be faster from the device than the storage card and that's where the payoff is?
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Not quite so simple. All app's once loaded, reside in main memory and it's only the initial load that may be a bit slower.
BUT, some app's have other auxilliary components residing in their directory that they may need to call on from time to time and if on SD card, can slow it down for example GPS apps using maps on SD card. If your map set is small, just try loading your app into main memory storage and see how faster it is.
ALSO, because of poor coding or old app's not expecting to see an SD card, certain app's can fail to work, or crash as they expect to to load from main memory storage.
LASTLY, is the quality of the card. It's the old adage, 'Ya get's what ya' pay for'!
Some cheaper cards have very slow IO buffers that also reduce performance.
Let me ask another question on this (sorry for being lame) - does installing more and more apps (either on card or in the memory) slow down the device? In other words is it better to leave the phone as shipped in order not to increase the size of the reg file?
Why does my Captivate only limit me to having 2GB of space for apps? I'm not using an external SD card and I want to install my apps onto my internal SD card or atleast move them there.
It's been a while since I have been on a stock ROM so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can move at least some of the apps by going to settings / applications and then, in the individual application settings, select "Move to SD."
I know you can't move widgets or alarm applications because they will break if they aren't on internal memory, but you should be able to move games, etc. with no problem.
Move to SD was not available on Eclair... what are you running?
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I'm on 2.2 right now. There is an option to move to SD but it only moves it to external SD not the internal one. It's split up into 3 sections
Internal Memory
Internal SD Card(I want apps to go here)
External SD card
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I'm on 2.2 right now. There is an option to move to SD but it only moves it to external SD not the internal one. It's split up into 3 sections
Internal Memory
Internal SD Card(I want apps to go here)
External SD card
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Ah, now I understand. I never had enough apps on Froyo to play with moving them but shooting from the hip, have you tried removing your external card and see if it will let you move them then? If not, I know that there are apps2sd applications on the market that should help you, but I haven't used any of them to give you a recommendation.
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Ah, now I understand. I never had enough apps on Froyo to play with moving them but shooting from the hip, have you tried removing your external card and see if it will let you move them then? If not, I know that there are apps2sd applications on the market that should help you, but I haven't used any of them to give you a recommendation.
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I've used all of those methods and none work.
Did you find solution? I have same situation here, it's pretty weird internal SD could only be stored with application data instead of application itself.
I'm almost positive that you can't move apps to your "internal SD card" regardless of whether or not you have an external sd card installed.
My understanding is that you can only move apps to the external SD card (at least that's how it's been on any ROM I've ever used)
why... Why! WHY!!! . . . oh >.>
muh316 said:
Why does my Captivate only limit me to having 2GB of space for apps? I'm not using an external SD card and I want to install my apps onto my internal SD card or atleast move them there.
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Why you ask...
Well simple, your limited to only 2GB because this size was choosen by phone manufacturors years ago when they were first designing the phone.
Consider that most of the phones in use back when 2.2 was released did not, for the full storage potential, even have the 2GB that we have just for apps (16GB in total). Heck most did not even have 1GB (I think 512MB was the standard). There was no separation between app storage and other media. This lead to users running out of space for both rather quickly. The solution then was to find use for the external SD as it could be as large as 32GB of storage.
The whole "internal SD" thing was thought up because it seemed wise to separate app storage from media storage. Also back when 2.2 was first released we did not have such massive apps as on the market today, so 2GB was plenty of any and all user (excluding the ppl who felt a need to have 200+ user apps...)
So, you can't store apps to the "internal SD" because that's not what it is meant to be used for. When companies decided to start putting such massive storage into the phone there was no reason for it to be any bigger.
As to only being able to move apps to the external SD, simple; Google did not design Android to do so.
To allow such would require changing how Android sees the "Internal SD" and to change how the app to SD function works, it is not currently written to check for multiple SD cards. I don't see any Dev willing to take up the task when the solution to running out of app space has already been solved by a much better means.
A different way to view the problem would be to ask (or learn, as that's the xda way) about re-sizing the partition to make the app storage larger. If enough people ask (politely!) maybe one of the Devs can be convinced to make it standard in their ROM that it be more then the default 2GB, or someone might make an app or flashable .zip that allows for re-sizing.
lt:dr - phone is old, based on old specs (think pre- 2.1 Android).
Hey all,
My friend just got his Galaxy Ace S5830i couple of weeks a go, and he isn't a phone\computer expert, i helped him install several apps on it (waze\whatsapp\tunein\ Facebook and.. that's it)
and the phone reports that he is running out of space, it says he have 20mb left out of 200mb, but he have 2gb sd card with 1.8gb free on it, it doesn't seam like there is any app that he can move to the sd, I attempted to use the app called "apps 2 SD", i got him rooted for this app to work and it says that there are no apps that could be moved to the SD card.
what gives? how can this be solved? how can i force move apps to the sd card or remove locked system apps that he doesn't use (like voice search, Google navigator\street view, alarm clock, memos etc, Samsung account related apps)?
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I did, in the format of a program (app) that requires root permission, i therefore rooted the phone beforehand, and I did move 2mb worth of apps.
any other idea? perhaps the script you refer to can do something the app cant?
also try cleaning all the Dalvik cache it, I hope I have helped.
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also try cleaning all the Dalvik cache it, I hope I have helped.
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Did it just now, no effect what so ever, 167mb available, 23mb free, phone screams for space to be free, any nonlocked app is on the sd, most of the others removed, why did Samsung make a phone with total of 300ish mb storage is beyond me, the much older galaxy s 1 had 8gb in the cheap module, i mean .. come on didn't they think that a simple user might ran out of space by simply using 5 utility apps??
very very sad for my friend, which in turn is mad at Samsung, also shop dont accept return for any reason after 14days (which is inline with the laws here) so he cant do jack, i suggested selling it as "as new" condition with bonus of free screen protector, case, and the original box for say 70% of the new price.. not sure if he will even manage to move it that way :-\
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Did it just now, no effect what so ever, 167mb available, 23mb free, phone screams for space to be free, any nonlocked app is on the sd, most of the others removed, why did Samsung make a phone with total of 300ish mb storage is beyond me, the much older galaxy s 1 had 8gb in the cheap module, i mean .. come on didn't they think that a simple user might ran out of space by simply using 5 utility apps??
very very sad for my friend, which in turn is mad at Samsung, also shop dont accept return for any reason after 14days (which is inline with the laws here) so he cant do jack, i suggested selling it as "as new" condition with bonus of free screen protector, case, and the original box for say 70% of the new price.. not sure if he will even manage to move it that way :-\
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You only tried one app. It may be buggy.
I'd suggest trying the Link 2 SD app. Just long click on any (user) app in the list then try to move it.
Look into partitioning sd card and linking apps to the partition using link2sd. This is by far the method that frees more memory in stock rooted devices.
To remove system apps you don't want:
Link2sd and/or titanium backup can be used to uninstall system locked apps.
Manually you can remove system apps by going into system/app with a root explorer (es file explorer is a free app for this) then delete the .apk and matching .odex files of the apps you don't want.
Method 1:
Use a App Cache Cleaner
Move applications with Link2SD
Link apps using SD partition and Link2SD
Use A2SD
Method 2:
Amarullz Script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591079
Read it carefully!
Move Apps from phone to SDcard Using Link2SD
that worked for me
A phone...with 300 mb...i know roms worth a gb. I dont own a ace myself but i can tell you that if an app cant be moved to sd card via settings>applications>manage apps>[app name]>move to sd card then it wint move. Because some apps are made so that the files it accesses can only be in one big file. Some however (like some games) have 2 folders that it can access seperatly. Like save data and the game itself. One the save data is accessed it dosnt need to load any more information from the sd card. It will only re write the data. But with things like facebook it cant keep going between login details and app. Once logged in it keeps that information until you log out. If it part of it were in the sd card then it would keep telling you to re-log because it looses your data once it switches back to phone memory. Because of this most apps that require something that must be read all at once with app and login at the same time. Also the ace is low on ram. If you moved apps like that onto the sd card it would slow down as well. Apps like app2sd are kinda useless as it does the same as the manage apps part of settings. Even if you did move an something to sd card you would still have the app and needed data in phone memory so not alot of memory would be moved unless its something like a game as i said. The phone storage keeps the levels all in one. But the game data will unlock those meaning more game data space than app space. Or maybe you could try delete system apps with that there rooted device. Should improve memory quite a bit. Right now i dont even know how i wrote all this...but still. I say samsung mucked up if the ace has 300mb. My phone is only a wee bit better (0.1 inches...yes...you heard) and even my phone is alot better then this and the best part is...its a samsung! Anyway. I hope i helped you.
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Thank you all for the replays !
I have downloaded titanium backup and with it I am backing up bloatware and then uninstalling it (and then moving the backup out of the phone and to my friend's computer.. just in case)
next up I plan to follow the wiki in regards to SD card partitioning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
in order to format the sd card to two partitions, data partition (fat) and ex2 (if i understand correctly) so that I could link apps to that parttion (the ex2 one)
and then I plan to use link2sd to link app's data to said partition
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
then I plan to uninstall link2sd as its not neccery for day to day operation.
and then I am going to check that app moving script here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591079
to see if i can get something out of it
just as an FYI, the phone got 384mb (according to the wiki) out of witch only 220 is visible, and stock status (first boot up) + whatsapp\waze\tunein\facebook\shazam .. the phone sits on 196mb used and 24mb free, at which point it screams for space, that is the source of all the problems of this device.
not to mention the low ram quantetiy, which in theory shouldn't even be a problem as long as you use one app at a time (no tunein radio while facebooking, for example) which is acceptable.
again, many many thanks for all the helpful replays ! !
I am going to post an update once I am finished with titanium backup root (free).
* in regards to formatting\reparttioning the sd card, did i get my idea right? its part FAT (for pictures and mp3 files) and part Ex2 for apps, so from a 2gb memory card I could in theory get away with 1500mb FAT partition and 500mb EX2, assuming I plan to not install any additional apps and just need some breathing space (23mb is clastor****bik to say the least)
I even went as far as to find the startup\shutdown sound files and replace them with one byte (1/1000 of a KB) size silent file to save additional ~150kb.
I removed oh so many system apps and Samsung bloat ware nonsense, googled some safe-list apps posts made on xda and used them to guide me as for whats safe to be removed, live wallpaper, Samsung accounts, all share, duel clock and many others are now gone.
and I am now on whooping 25MB free with 165MB used, nothing else to do, used all apps and scripts I simply cant free more space.
the free space error msg is gone now, the phone can receive SMS messages once more, but few Waze updates and some more sms and I am not sure how well will it be :-\
my friend is so furies at Samsung, as am I :\
Use the following command in Terminal emulator :
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Use the following command in Terminal emulator :
pm setInstallLocation 2
After this all apps will be installed to sd card by default!
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Thanks, done that now, but that is not the problem, the problem is only having 25mb free as is, even with new pictures saved to the sd card and new softwares install to the sd card, some stuff simply stay on the internal memory and the only thing left for me to remove is the internal screws of the actual phone.. thats how far i went with this :-\
My guess right now is that Samsung had chips of 384 (or maybe 256+128) left over after a production of some phone got stopped so they figured it would fit perfectly into entery level phone .. cant say that i am happy with there result.
From the Link2SD FAQ:
Link2SD does not link application's private data files that are located in /data/data directory, they remain in the internal storage. Thus each app you install will still have some data on the internal storage so you can still potentially fill up your internal storage even if you are moving all of your apps over.
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Why is this the case? There are other Linking apps which do move /data/data files. Why would Link2SD not do this?
I wish to ask this before I go bothering the application author. I figure there is some well-known issue here which I am not aware of.
I may have to switch linking apps because my /data part is getting too full, mostly due to Google's crappy maps and browser apps, which are horrifically fat.
Data Linking ?
jmomo said:
From the Link2SD FAQ:
Why is this the case? There are other Linking apps which do move /data/data files. Why would Link2SD not do this?
I wish to ask this before I go bothering the application author. I figure there is some well-known issue here which I am not aware of.
I may have to switch linking apps because my /data part is getting too full, mostly due to Google's crappy maps and browser apps, which are horrifically fat.
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I too have this issue, and am now running low on internal space (mainly due to the huge data\data folder) ...
Can you tell me the name(s) of the other apps that provide linking the data folder ?
I believe app data isn't moved, because it will make your phone laggy as hell. Guess the dev chose for finding more space, but not at the cost of speed.
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I believe app data isn't moved, because it will make your phone laggy as hell. Guess the dev chose for finding more space, but not at the cost of speed.
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This makes no sense at all. In many cases, newer SD cards are FASTER than the internal flash on older phones.
Please don't guess wildly about stuff you don't understand.
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I too have this issue, and am now running low on internal space (mainly due to the huge data\data folder) ...
Can you tell me the name(s) of the other apps that provide linking the data folder ?
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S2E does it, but from what I've seen, it's only for Cyanogen.
jmomo said:
This makes no sense at all. In many cases, newer SD cards are FASTER than the internal flash on older phones.
Please don't guess wildly about stuff you don't understand.
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Sustained write/read speeds don't tell the whole story, as you may know (probably not). You probably believe the more megapixels a camera sensor has, the better? Also, the phone must support those faster µSD cards. Seeing you've only been here for half a year and you've only contributed with a dozen posts, I can say for certain that you've never read any warnings for not moving app-data. It's not your fault.
Unfortunately, I noticed that all the new people coming here have no respect or decency and think they know everything already. Guess what: you don't know **** . So, like I already said before, drop the attitude.
Respectfully, you are simply wrong.
Modern SD cards are faster than the internal flash on older phones, which are the phones that need apps like Link2SD. I don't know about more modern phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934087
Bonnie++ is the best way, that I know of, to benchmark a flash storage devices, but it's not for noobs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169910
I remember running bonnie++ against my Nexus One and a cheap 16GB card about a year ago when that above post was made and my SD card was faster than the internal flash in almost every way, and that was then.
Yes, my post count is low. XDA Devs is full of loud noobs who think writing a java app or rooting a phone makes them a leet technical resource. I've been writing software and managing unix systems for over a decade.
Well, sir, you go ahead and put your app-data on your µSD . Benchmarks are for [random word].
Did I also mention that somehow some new members are bragging about what they have achieved and are capable of, while they haven't made themselves useful in any way? If not, now I did.
Is there still no possibility to move also the data folder (e.g of games)? Most of my applications are rather small and most space is taken by the game data folders.
tommert38 is correct here.
Because there is no guarantee, that if your sdcard is fast, it'a also faster than your internal flash. There are more dependies than only the speed of the card. What are the specs of the nexus one sd-reader? This could be an popotentially barrier.
At least: Which size supports the nexus one for sd-cards?
I agree with the OP about this. If it is a worry about the speed, i'm sure mr. bulent akpinar can at least provide an option in the app to enable/disable saving /data/data to the link2sd partition. everybody happy!
here's a link to the original link2sd thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326 maybe the app author can take note of it as a suggestion for future updates
One other benefit of not placing /data/data on the SD card is for the case if your sd-ext partition fails to mount for some reason (e.g. failing a file system check). If /data/data was on the SD card, then most of your application settings will be gone, including for builtin apps like the launcher. It will look very similar to a factory reset.
With /data/data on internal storage, your settings will be still be visible in this scenario and it will only be the downloaded apps that disappear. This should be somewhat easier to recover from.
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Is there still no possibility to move also the data folder (e.g of games)? Most of my applications are rather small and most space is taken by the game data folders.
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Consider all the risks and if you are willing to take them you might find this thread usefull. Just be sure you know what you are doing
LINK2SD v3.4.1 - No links data/data
apologies for posting to an aged thread, but just today LINK2SD has been updated to include linking of the /data/data
I'm already enjoying the new found space made available, it seems to work very well so far ...
d_bizzzz said:
apologies for posting to an aged thread, but just today LINK2SD has been updated to include linking of the /data/data
I'm already enjoying the new found space made available, it seems to work very well so far ...
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May I ask you if you noticed a lag or performance slow down? I also love link2sd but I fear to upgrade to the latest version cause I don't want to compromise the reliability of my system, which so far, has been excellent.
I have read that moving the /data files could slow down the phone or cause overheating of the sd card. Actually I have a class 10 ultra II Sandisk.
Thanks for any report and opinion.
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May I ask you if you noticed a lag or performance slow down? I also love link2sd but I fear to upgrade to the latest version cause I don't want to compromise the reliability of my system, which so far, has been excellent.
I have read that moving the /data files could slow down the phone or cause overheating of the sd card. Actually I have a class 10 ultra II Sandisk.
Thanks for any report and opinion.
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I haven't done any benchtesting or anything but haven't noticed any slowdown or battery drain what-so-ever.
My phone runs just as good as before.
I only link my game apps to SD because I expect one day the SD card will fail (like most media storage devices) and most of my essential apps are un-linked and stored on the internal phone mem.
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I haven't done any benchtesting or anything but haven't noticed any slowdown or battery drain what-so-ever.
My phone runs just as good as before.
I only link my game apps to SD because I expect one day the SD card will fail (like most media storage devices) and most of my essential apps are un-linked and stored on the internal phone mem.
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Thanks, I have linked all my apps and it is now almost an year. I was very curious about the possibility to move the data too but was a bit on the standby, because if you check on the play store, there are some complaints. Now, I don't know what to do, maybe I'll give it a try.
Thanks for your kind reply.
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Thanks, I have linked all my apps and it is now almost an year. I was very curious about the possibility to move the data too but was a bit on the standby, because if you check on the play store, there are some complaints. Now, I don't know what to do, maybe I'll give it a try.
Thanks for your kind reply.
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I guess some reviews may be on different phone models.
All I can advise is check the gppd & bad reviews and the phone model. Also to have a titanium backup of your older link2SD so you can roll back if needbe.
Worth just linking a few & see how it goes.
No complaints on my Galaxy S3, works fine & has done for the past 2 years
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I guess some reviews may be on different phone models.
All I can advise is check the gppd & bad reviews and the phone model. Also to have a titanium backup of your older link2SD so you can roll back if needbe.
Worth just linking a few & see how it goes.
No complaints on my Galaxy S3, works fine & has done for the past 2 years
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Well I downloaded the new version (I have the plus option) but I don't understand how to move the data to sd since in the options it is specified that only future installs will be moved (if I flag the option).
Back to the original question. I use Mounts2SD for my Nexus One. I check to move Apps, Data, Dalvik, and Libraries. The rest I leave alone. I have no problems with space with this set-up. Speed is decent, I think the issues I have are probably related to the various custom ROMs I've been using but I can't be 100% sure.
So, Samsung have boasted that they can have 128GB SD card support.... what is the point in that if you can't install apps to it... All the guides i've followed have not been clear enough in regards to using my 64GB SD as the "internal" I've tried numerous apps from Link2SD and Internal2ExternalSD none of which have worked
I've also tried to partition it in the hope it would work that way, but no... it just took off what I partitioned and the excess was still displayed as SD storage!!!
Does anyone have any ideas?? because I'm really tempting to take the phone back.. a waste of money in my eyes.... who the hell at Google thought 16GB would be enough to store games and apps on..... Please... Please someone help me here, has anyone managed to use their SD as internal??
PS I also know that KitKat took away move to sd support... so before anyone says that, I know =)
Google are the one's we should be venting our anger at. Samsung do make the devices with more storage so they've covered their backsides on that one, but it's Google that in my opinion have done this deliberately to force us all to use cloud storage. I do however believe that Samsung and other manufacturers should be going back to Google and applying pressure on them to rethink.
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I have many games installed on my memory card?
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have you ever even tried an S5 or you just making assumptions?
Because it has app moving built in and works just fine.
I have my S5 rooted, installed NextApp SDfix (from google play), FolderMount and everything's working perfect on SD.
All my apps are automatically installing to my memory card fine on my s5...all thats on internal mem is the sammy junk
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Anyway, so am i doing something wrong...because i play a lot of big games I.E. ones that take over 3GB, so when i "move" to sd... it transfers about 80MB out of 3GB... please explain what i've done wrong???? I've never used a Samsung before!
Seriously, it was a genuine question, I even went into the Samsung store today to enquire about it all...
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I have my S5 rooted, installed NextApp SDfix (from google play), FolderMount and everything's working perfect on SD.
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Can you just explain how you managed to get your games to install on the SD then? all i can put on there is music, photos and well..other media... installing games doesn't seem to work...
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Anyway, so am i doing something wrong...because i play a lot of big games I.E. ones that take over 3GB, so when i "move" to sd... it transfers about 80MB out of 3GB... please explain what i've done wrong???? I've never used a Samsung before!
Seriously, it was a genuine question, I even went into the Samsung store today to enquire about it all...
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What amount is transferable to the SD card is dependent on the game, not the phone or the SD card itself. large games rely on downloadable data which is not transferable, because they need to be located in a certain place in the phone in order for the game to run (usually android/obb or android/data).
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What amount is transferable to the SD card is dependent on the game, not the phone or the SD card itself. large games rely on downloadable data which is not transferable, because they need to be located in a certain place in the phone in order for the game to run (usually android/obb or android/data).
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Ok, I understand that...can i move the "Android" folder across to the SD via a file browser app... would that work? or will the S5 not read the files anymore... I've just tried that foldermount app... moved my spotify songs across, only to find Spotify losing all the music and then asking to redownload it.... is there a way to maybe mount the SD as a mirror... or at least as the internal card itself.. with other people saying that it "works" fine.. then maybe they arn't reading what I'm asking correctly..
"Attention Wal-Mart staff, we need a clean-up in aisle 6!"
Ok members, I see a lot of tempers and un-called for comments from several participants. Keep in mind XDA rules require respecting other members. That includes the use of profanity and name calling.
Now, I'll clean out the off-topic posts, and maybe even edit some comments. Anymore "mud-slinging" regardless of who throws it, and the thread will get closed.
MD
EDIT: Thread cleaned and edited some comments from some posts.
Folks, if you don't wish to help, then kindly move along to some other thread without posting silly comments.
Also, please be aware of how you post, and that it doesn't come across as whining or complaining. A well thought out precise question will usually result in a precise answer.
And if any member sees a violation of XDA rules, their "ONLY" course of action is to "Report Post". Not add further fuel to the fire, as then it turns into a mess and moderation must come and clean it up. Regardless of what some think, XDA is a development site, Not a social network. Please read the rules.
Thank You and keep it clean.
MD
CraigUK87 said:
Can you just explain how you managed to get your games to install on the SD then? all i can put on there is music, photos and well..other media... installing games doesn't seem to work...
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OK, follow those steps (or the missing ones...)
- root your phone
- install and run SD fix; as result, writing to external SD works like before 4.4
- use some application like FolderMount. You can choose different folders from internal memory and link them to another folder on external card. For example: after installing one game (normal, on internal memory), choose in Foldermount the obb folder (that is where almost every app put big amount of data) and link it to a folder on external SD (as result, foldermount will offer you to move existing data). Set Foldermount to automatically mount it on boot, and voila!
link: at operating system level, that directory seems as on internal memory structure, but in reality it resides on external card.
Thanks, to the guy above.. it's all sorted now!
As anyone can understand a bit of frustration was inevitable... considering how much this phone cost and SD.... but appreciate the help.
I'm on Omega Rom 2.0 (KitKat) and after I'm moving and mounting real racing 3 or dead trigger 2, when I try to play the game it downloads the data again from the Internet. I have 64 GB Samsung UHS -1 external Sd card. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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The point of it? Storing all your music, videos(series and films) and offline maps on it so you can keep your internal memory as free as possible for apps that haven't been updated to work with KitKat.
Apps can read from the SD without issues. You don't need to write to the SD to play media.
That said, it still installs all my apps onto my SDcard. (Which I don't want it to.)
It's ridiculous how apps utilize the SD cards on a stock S5.
Let's say you install an app that takes up 100mb, and decide to move it to SD with the device manager. It will maybe reduce the on-device size to 90mb and move 50mb to the SD, and suddenly the app takes up a total of 140mb. Just an example, but this seems to be the case for every app.
Apoxx said:
It's ridiculous how apps utilize the SD cards on a stock S5.
Let's say you install an app that takes up 100mb, and decide to move it to SD with the device manager. It will maybe reduce the on-device size to 90mb and move 50mb to the SD, and suddenly the app takes up a total of 140mb. Just an example, but this seems to be the case for every app.
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Fantastic!! (irony)! That's Samsung allright!
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ShadowLea said:
The point of it? Storing all your music, videos(series and films) and offline maps on it so you can keep your internal memory as free as possible for apps that haven't been updated to work with KitKat.
Apps can read from the SD without issues. You don't need to write to the SD to play media.
That said, it still installs all my apps onto my SDcard. (Which I don't want it to.)
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But alot of people, me included, uses files in a much more interactive way than just "reading" from them. I need apps to be able to modify document, movies, music files etcetera! And for that the apps need WRITE permissions, which now is no longer possible.
This new KK sdcard rules really messes this up.
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I like to keep my media collection stored locally since I don't have a large data plan. Expandable storage on devices will NEVER be pointless.
Please give up and stop buy 16g phone, so 32g phone will come for every brand . I insist buy s.version to have 32g. I just cannot accept android phone treat customers as a fool.
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osvanberg said:
This new KK sdcard rules really messes this up.
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App developers just need to update to support /mnt/extSdCard for writeable storage, is that really too much to ask?
This is really akin to the old days when apps on Windows assumed they could write to "C:\Program Files" or "C:\Windows" ... that's just a bad idea, and lazy (the wrong kind of lazy).