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anyone found an alternative car charger, I dont mean using the wall charger with an inverter
but a charger that plugs into the lighter plug?
Contra1971 said:
anyone found an alternative car charger, I dont mean using the wall charger with an inverter
but a charger that plugs into the lighter plug?
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I used this on my Palm Pre. It charges my Epic 4g, and I tried it out on the Nook Color this AM.
It worked just fine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-SPRINT-CAR-...Accessories&hash=item45f6ea76fc#ht_1484wt_905
There's qutie a number of cigarette lighter adapters available that offer a standard USB port. You'd supply your own cable. Here's an example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Car-Cigare...053289?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a0eed35e9
No, AFAIK, none of these will charge as fast as the standard NC charger. For that, you'd need to go thru the hassle of getting an inverter.
Monoprice has cigarette lighter to female usb chargers for $1.16 that you can use your usb cable with.
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well I bought 1 from Wally World and it has a dual USB output abd says it is .5v and 1.5amp but when I plug in my NC it doesnt say charging
does the sprint charger?
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No, AFAIK, none of these will charge as fast as the standard NC charger. For that, you'd need to go thru the hassle of getting an inverter.
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Why is that any more of a hassle than getting a car charger?
Contra1971 said:
well I bought 1 from Wally World and it has a dual USB output abd says it is .5v and 1.5amp but when I plug in my NC it doesnt say charging
does the sprint charger?
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Yes, the Sprint charger says 'charging' As the others stated, it's not fast, but it works just fine...
it isnt more of a hassle, I have 4 inverters, but they all have fans and make noise I wanted to use a NO noise charger thats all
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Why is that any more of a hassle than getting a car charger?
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Larger, heavier, more cords, much more expensive (when compared to a $1 cig-to-usb)...
Just has to be able to push out the current needed. Otherwise it may not charge, or it will charge very slowly.
The Scosche reVIVE II Dual USB Car Charger for iPad has 2.1 and 1.0 amp usb outlets, I use this for plugging in my evo and nc. It definitely charges them both even while having all the wireless radios going and tethering with gps and both screens full bright.
Contra1971 said:
it isnt more of a hassle, I have 4 inverters, but they all have fans and make noise I wanted to use a NO noise charger thats all
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Same issue here, I have a road-trip coming up this summer and I'd love to load up my NC with music and dash-mount it but it'll be a 14-20 hour drive (depending on the number of whiz breaks the wife and kids need) and I don't think I could push the battery quite that long and the inverter when wired to the radio creates quite a buzzing.
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The Scosche reVIVE II Dual USB Car Charger for iPad has 2.1 and 1.0 amp usb outlets, I use this for plugging in my evo and nc. It definitely charges them both even while having all the wireless radios going and tethering with gps and both screens full bright.
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Are you using the Nooks specific cable on the 2.1A connection? I too am going on a trip soon, and would love a car charger that can actually CHARGE the nook while using it..
www.amazon.com/Scosche-reVIVE-Dual-Charger-iPad/dp/B003N7NO4Q
Is this the one you have? It looks nice and the price looks okay. Nice find. I also saw a wall plug dual usb version by same company on the same page, do you have any info on that one too? It would be nice to stream line travel chargers to a minimum, thanks.
It definitely charges both. Like I said in my previous post, I usually have both my Evo runniong and the Nook full bright display on for 50 minute commute, using TetherGPS, wifi hotspot, torque and bluetooth, google navigation pulling satellite imagery, and playing mp3s. Granted, it is slower to charge than without all that stuff running but my previous car charger would lose charge with my evo running just gps and no wifi hotspot previously.
I am using stock blackberry usb cables that I ordered from Amazon as well for $1.25 for a pair (google 'B001UC9NOQ', can't post links yet.) These are nice, thick cables that handle the charger great. I leave them plugged in inside the truck at all times. I have not used that Scosche wall charger, I use the stock chargers for travel that remain in my backpack, and I have other usb cables I use to charge at home. I would imagine it works just as well though.
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It definitely charges both. Like I said in my previous post, I usually have both my Evo runniong and the Nook full bright display on for 50 minute commute, using TetherGPS, wifi hotspot, torque and bluetooth, google navigation pulling satellite imagery, and playing mp3s.
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http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-reVIVE-Dual-Charger-iPad/dp/B003N7NO4Q
Luckily I'm used to carrying extra USB cables around but the noise my inverter generated while charging was super annoying, went ahead and ordered this to try it out. Hoping it works for what I need, thanks for the tip
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http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-reVIVE-Dual-Charger-iPad/dp/B003N7NO4Q
Luckily I'm used to carrying extra USB cables around but the noise my inverter generated while charging was super annoying, went ahead and ordered this to try it out. Hoping it works for what I need, thanks for the tip
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Let us know if it works for you. An Amazon reviewer just reported that the Scosche reVIVE II didn't work on their Nook Color:
The nook color needs 1.9 amps, this can't do it. Scosche claims 2.1 amps but it isn't even close. It BARELY charges the nook if the machine is sleeping, when on, the battery charge goes down even while supposedly "charging." Playing video, it's even worse. On top of that if I try to charge a regular phone it puts out too much amperage on the 1 amp side and overheats the phone. Save your money, look elsewhere.
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However, the reviewer may not know what they're talking about. A charger cannot put out "too much amperage." Too much voltage perhaps, but not too much amperage (current). A device draws only the current it needs.
An iPad needs an amperage around 2 A also. I got the Belkin Charge 2.1 made for the ipod/ipad and it DOES charge the nook color. It has a 12V plug with one USB outlet at 2.1A. I used the cable from the nook color obviously...
See, part of my worry is not the current output, but if the nook can actually communicate with these chargers and get a full 1.9A draw, instead of the detault 500mA over non B&N chargers...
cybrdmn said:
An iPad needs an amperage around 2 A also. I got the Belkin Charge 2.1 made for the ipod/ipad and it DOES charge the nook color. It has a 12V plug with one USB outlet at 2.1A. I used the cable from the nook color obviously...
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I bought the same Belkin iPad charger from Best Buy. Rated at 2.1A. I used it with the B & N USB cable that came with my Nook Color. I used the 'Battery Monitor' software mentioned earlier here or on another post to compare charge current readings against the stock B&N wall charger/cable. The Belkin was charging right at 500 mA (NC was using ~450 mA, software showing +36 mA current). So somewhere the B & N cable & charger must have a unique way of determining that it is a B&N charger / cable and to allow the full 2.1A charge. I used the Belkin 12V charger on my TomTom and it allowed just over 1A charge, so I know the Belkin iPad charger is fine.
Yes, it does charge the Nook Color, if you are at 800 Mhz and minimum brightness running non-intensive applications--and it barely charges at that ~50 mA. It does turn the charge indicator on the B&N cable orange, and the status indicates battery charge on the screen.
I haven't seen a thread that addresses this specifically:
After reading the threads in this section, it seems that the consensus is that the "fast charging" aspect of the NC is based on extra pins in the special NC cable. When connected to any charger with 1.9amps or greater, you will get the fast charge.
My experience is different.
Using the OEM NC cable:
1. Connected to OEM charger, stock ROM - settings say charging, flashes an icon with charging percent on connection and removal
2. Connected to OEM charger, CM7 - settings say Charging (AC).
3. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, stock - settings say Not Charging.
4. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, CM7 - settings say Charging (USB)
Using the generic microusb cables (2 or 3 tried):
1. Connected to OEM charger, stock ROM - Can't remember, but not going back to stock!
2. Connected to OEM charger, CM7 - settings say Charging (AC).
3. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, stock - settings say Not Charging.
4. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, CM7 - settings say Charging (USB)
This seems to imply that the OEM charger is required to really use the extra pins in the NC OEM cable. Can anyone test and confirm this?
Alan
The nook charger puts out almost 2A of power, where normal usb chargers and ports on computer only put out 500mA. The cable that the nook comes with has some terminations in it that allow the nook to tell when it is connected to the nook charger. It will charge at a much faster rate when using the combination of the charger and cable that came with the nook. Replace either the cable or the charger with anything else and you get low power charging mode which is very slow.
Nook Charger
I keep seeing reports of people getting a fast charge using various other equipment, as long as the chargers are rated >= 1.9A.
Can anyone confirm or deny this? Any testing?
As long as a charger puts out near 2A of current, it should work. The charger itself is just a four pin USB charger. The cable itself... lots of pins in the connector to the NC.
FrayAdjacent said:
As long as a charger puts out near 2A of current, it should work. The charger itself is just a four pin USB charger. The cable itself... lots of pins in the connector to the NC.
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That's what everyone's been saying, but it doesn't work that way in my testing. I have tried 3rd party chargers that output 2.0 and 2.1A, using the OEM cable. None of them are recognized as an AC charger. If we knew how the NC knows when it's connected to the original charger, we could find a way to modify something available at WalMart to quick charge our NC's. There's plenty of Ipad chargers (2.1A) available. The one I have doesn't work, though.
Alan
Update to my previous post:
When I got home from work I tested my ipad charger (2.1A) with the nook color cable and it seemed to act like the nook charger. I did not think any charger but the nc one would work, but it seems it does.
I am jealous. My Ipad charger (OEM) paired with the nook cable shows Charging (USB) under Settings --->About Tablet--->Status. I would love know how to get it to say Charging (AC) .
Alan
Keep your eyes open people...as soon as I return to work and have extra cash I plan on ordering and tearing down a charger and cable. Many have noticed poor quality in the chargers..I'm gonna try to engineer an open DIY charger and cable replacement with better filtering components. Hopefully will be creating a thread with full details in 3 weeks...
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deadbot1 said:
Keep your eyes open people...as soon as I return to work and have extra cash I plan on ordering and tearing down a charger and cable. Many have noticed poor quality in the chargers..I'm gonna try to engineer an open DIY charger and cable replacement with better filtering components. Hopefully will be creating a thread with full details in 3 weeks...
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YAY! I have my soldering station warming up.
Cheers,
kev
yep, this is overdue...plugged in last night...almost burned my hand after an hour of charging. I keep my charger by the bed and the hum is just annoying when I'm feeling a bit restless.
Is there a way to identify problem chargers?
There must be some real inconsistency in the charger build quality. I've never noticed mine gets more than just a tiny bit warm and no humming. I wonder if there was a bad lot of them made? I was trying to look at the charger to see if there is a lot # or such, but can't tell what half the darned thing says. I'm posting a pic of the text on my charger in the hopes we can figure out if there is some way to identify problem chargers.
Edit: My nc came from WalMart.
Well there is a difference in the markings at least...The area circled in red...On mine it is R1101.
Still made in China
Edit: BTW my unit came from Walmart. Not sure if there would be any accounting for things like that.
deadbot1 said:
Keep your eyes open people...as soon as I return to work and have extra cash I plan on ordering and tearing down a charger and cable. Many have noticed poor quality in the chargers..I'm gonna try to engineer an open DIY charger and cable replacement with better filtering components. Hopefully will be creating a thread with full details in 3 weeks...
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Sounds great. The simple tests I have done have yielded more quetions then answers.
Looking forward to your data.
ive noticed i cant transfer data on anything other than the nook cable.
The NC cable is special. It wont fit other devices.
described over here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nook_Color
Charging the NC on a regular microUSB means much longer time.
swaaye said:
The NC cable is special. It wont fit other devices.
described over here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nook_Color
Charging the NC on a regular microUSB means much longer time.
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Yeah, this much is well known...my plan is to find out if there are "brains" in the charger or if it's just a high amp USB adapter. If the latter is true( which I suspect), then it's easy peasy to make a high power port( or just buy a quality one). If it has special circuitry...then I get to try and replicate it( with better parts) and release the plans so others can make DIY replacements.
Edit: I'm willing to bet that the extra pins in the cable are just to increase contact surface...to handle the higher amperage.
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ive noticed i cant transfer data on anything other than the nook cable.
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That is totally wrong, since other cables WILL transfer data just fine. I use an LG Micro USB cable from my old dare, and am able to ADB push, install, etc just fine.
As it is, the large end of the Nook's USB cable is normal; this means that if the nook is communicating, it is doing so over the standard USB data ports, and not through some special connection. Keep in mind that some of the extra pins from the micro side are for the status light that is built in.
Hmm R1102 here showing 1.9A output
I'm curious.. some people have talked about warranty replacements. What R versions are those?
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That is totally wrong, since other cables WILL transfer data just fine. I use an LG Micro USB cable from my old dare, and am able to ADB push, install, etc just fine.
As it is, the large end of the Nook's USB cable is normal; this means that if the nook is communicating, it is doing so over the standard USB data ports, and not through some special connection. Keep in mind that some of the extra pins from the micro side are for the status light that is built in.
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Hmm....hadn't thought of that...that charger almost has to be dumb...just higher output...the smarts all have to be in the USB/power management chip in the nook. Those extra pins must be for the led and maybe a few for handling the higher amperage. Need to check out the spec sheet for that chip again...
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Why does it HAVE to be dumb? I mean, the charger needs to do nothing more than respond to a ping, saying "Hey, im a Nook charger, take me for a 1.9A ride!". I guess that makes it dumb, but no reason said technology won't be in the charger.
Could someone recommend any good supplier of USB to microUSB cable that can handle 2 amps of charging the note 2? Other than the cable I got from Samsung, all my cable charge super slow my note 2 (from the original charger).
Thanks
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interested in this one too! also, a 6ft cable if available.
TIA
I'd be interested, also!
I purchased one of those 6 foot cable extensions and just plugged the stock cable into it and the extension portion into the stock charger. Works like charm.
Sent from the best phone on the planet, Apple take Note............
My girlfriends Kindle usb cable took a dive so i went on search for replacement coming across -
http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Kindle-Micro-Cable-Keyboard/dp/B006BGZJJ4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
A buyer remarked he was using on his GS3 so I did some research on it.
Its 2.0 capable and built to carry charge are device requires giving me the feel of perfect replacement .
I ordered 2 of them will be receiving on Wednesday .
are you saying that the other micro usb cable wont work
ive got this nokia micro usb cable ca-101 and it works with the iluv triple usb charger which has got one port as fast port which is 2 amp one
any comments
boxer29 said:
are you saying that the other micro usb cable wont work
ive got this nokia micro usb cable ca-101 and it works with the iluv triple usb charger which has got one port as fast port which is 2 amp one
any comments
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No no not saying they wont work....its the performance aspects of cables.
kindle cable contained in link is 5-6ft long , allows usb sync , built for 2amp current flow and user reviews are solid which = Good quality.
A little explanation on why I'm buying new cable,
My stock is defective micro connection wasn't sure easily falling out of device.
I took it to ATT service center showed them what was up and they ordered replacement cables that sucked.
1st Rcable was too short -Samsung was only 3ft long.
2nd Rcable didn't sync to pc - Off the wall brand 6 ft long.
From that point I broke out utility knife modified stock cable cutting some plastic off sleeve on micro end.
Connections now sure but cable looks beat up so replacement was needed.
Well I received my Amazon Kindle replacement cable today
Kindle Cable is of good quality , connections are firm much better then stock oem that came with device.
I highly recommend it.
hetzbh said:
Could someone recommend any good supplier of USB to microUSB cable that can handle 2 amps of charging the note 2? Other than the cable I got from Samsung, all my cable charge super slow my note 2 (from the original charger).
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Yes, from my previous post:
I've struggled with a variety of the longer, non-OEM micro USB cables - the Amazon Basics, cables from Monoprice, etc. I had problems with all of them, either not providing enough current, or just flaking out within a short time. At one point I thought my phone (EVO 4G) had a problem with the micro USB jack (it didn't). Then one day I found a great cable on Amazon:
Search Amazon "Mediabridge - USB 2.0 A-Male to Micro-B Cable (6 Feet)"
I've been using this cable for several years now, and it has proven to be very durable (I've run over it with my office chair a number of times), and has always provided the full current of the charger I am using with no issues at all. I purchased another one recently to use in another location, and the quality is the same. I've been using these cables with all of my phones, and currently with the Note II.
I'm using this one from Monoprice, with the standard OEM Samsung wall / desk charger that came with the Note II:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
It's six feet long, and is a pretty thick cable. I used it today for the first time to charge my new Note II. Coupled with the standard Samsung charger, it charged my Note II from 12 % to 100% in two hours, thirty one minutes -- and that included charging during two incoming phone calls that each lasted about 10 minutes.
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I'm using this one from Monoprice, with the standard OEM Samsung wall / desk charger that came with the Note II:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
It's six feet long, and is a pretty thick cable. I used it today for the first time to charge my new Note II. Coupled with the standard Samsung charger, it charged my Note II from 12 % to 100% in two hours, thirty one minutes -- and that included charging during two incoming phone calls that each lasted about 10 minutes.
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If my calculations are correct that's putting about 1120 Ma per hour into your phone.
I wonder if it would charge that fast on usb and have data too?
I also wonder how that compares to the stock USB cable that came with our charger.
JosephL said:
If my calculations are correct that's putting about 1120 Ma per hour into your phone.
I wonder if it would charge that fast on usb and have data too?
I also wonder how that compares to the stock USB cable that came with our charger.
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Good questions. I was wondering the same things, particularly as the Monoprice cable is double the length of the stock one. At some point, I'll try both charging from my laptop with the Monoprice cable, and switching out and using the stock USB cable, for comparison purposes. My problem (well, not REALLY a problem at all!) is that my battery seems to be lasting around 27 hours, so it may be a while before I can get around to doing this!
Asquared said:
Good questions. I was wondering the same things, particularly as the Monoprice cable is double the length of the stock one. At some point, I'll try both charging from my laptop with the Monoprice cable, and switching out and using the stock USB cable, for comparison purposes. My problem (well, not REALLY a problem at all!) is that my battery seems to be lasting around 27 hours, so it may be a while before I can get around to doing this!
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My stock usb cable that came with my Samsung charger shows charging on USB, even though it's plugged into the wall.
Conversely, put my note on my 2 amp car charger and the note says charging on AC.
Something is not right with the stock setup. Sure it charges but it should read charging on AC if it's on AC.
Just did a test. Found a usb cable from another device and plugged that into the Samsung stock charger. Now it reads "charging on AC."
I used that same cable and USB on my desktop. My note said charging on USB.
I think the cable was the bottle neck on the charger and the usb port on the desktop is not putting out enough power to make the Note believe its on AC.
USB is USB as far as our desktop/ Note goes, but if you are using AC, then the cable becomes more important if you want the fastest charge. What's apparent is we didn't get a real charging cable with our Note II. .
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Just did a test. Found a usb cable from another device and plugged that into the Samsung stock charger. Now it reads "charging on AC."
I used that same cable and USB on my desktop. My note said charging on USB.
I think the cable was the bottle neck on the charger and the usb port on the desktop is not putting out enough power to make the Note believe its on AC.
USB is USB as far as our desktop/ Note goes, but if you are using AC, then the cable becomes more important if you want the fastest charge. What's apparent is we didn't get a real charging cable with our Note II. .
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So far, I haven't had any problems with my stock Samsung USB cable. You can always try the Monoprice cable I mentioned in a prior post. Also, I've read on these boards that it sometimes helps to try different USB ports on your computer, and that it can actually make a difference in charging.
Interesting topic I have been wondering about myself. The cable I got with my Note 2 is not good. The connector, when attached, is easy to move aside, does not hold in place and the sad thing is, it is original manufacturer cable.
I used several different cables and found out that the problem is the height (length) of the micro USB connector, which protrudes from the connector's plastic cover. The other thing I found is that standard Samsung cable, delivered with the phone is few fractions of millimeter shorter than any other cable I compared it to, and suffers from it.
Amazon basics cable I ordered recently might have the connector metal only barely longer, but holds much better (in fact it fits tightly and feels very well fixed in the socket). Contrary to some, I have not observed any problem when charging the phone with this cable and original charger. Maybe the newer cables are already adapted to the chargers as well.
The fact that the norm is not always the norm is also proved by original Samsung MHL adapter (with HDMI out). This has "micro USB" connector (here it is 11 pin though) which is roughly 1-2 mm longer than the one on supplied charger cable. This one gets "all way down" into the hole and still does not even touch the case with its plastic part (there might be ~ 1mm space between the plastic of connector and Note 2 case).
Now, when I look at potential micro USB cable for Note 2 I always check the length of micro USB metal part. It must be longer than original cable from Samsung, otherwise it will have flimsy connection.
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I've managed to find some chargers (both car and wall) that will charge with 1800mA (according to Galaxy Charging Lite app).
I have not managed to find an aftermarket cable that will charge at more than 1amp. Anyone know of an aftermarket cable that actually is capable of 1800mA? I've tried nGear and monoprice, and while they are very well constructed cables, they will only charge at 1amp or less with the n7100
Thanks for the help in advance, but please only respond to this if you've actually tested the cable with with the Galaxy Charging app or a current meter of some sort. I'm not interested in cables that only work anecdotally.
-PW
I'm breaking your rules (gasp) but as far as I'm aware, it's not the cable that manages the charge, it's the power adapter that feeds the usb, right? I've used all sorts of random cables on my travels for work, but always sticking to my 2+ amp output charger, and they've always worked.
pacificwing said:
I've managed to find some chargers (both car and wall) that will charge with 1800mA (according to Galaxy Charging Lite app).
I have not managed to find an aftermarket cable that will charge at more than 1amp. Anyone know of an aftermarket cable that actually is capable of 1800mA? I've tried nGear and monoprice, and while they are very well constructed cables, they will only charge at 1amp or less with the n7100
Thanks for the help in advance, but please only respond to this if you've actually tested the cable with with the Galaxy Charging app or a current meter of some sort. I'm not interested in cables that only work anecdotally.
-PW
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Find a very short cable and you'll see rates up to 2100 ma (as measure by battery monitor widget). I use the short usb cable that came with my jambox combined with the the phones stock charger. The charger gets so hot due to the high current that I worry if it might burn out. The cable is very short, like 6 inches. I use this one when i need a quick bump before going out.
At this low of voltage plus high current, the shielding on most cables is not enough to protect against the voltage fluctuations caused by the high magnetic field. The longer the cable the more shielding is needed. Additionally, the cable shielding gets less effective as the cable gets older due to general wear. My original usb cable can only due around 740 - 1250ma, where it used to do 1800ma when new nearly 2 years ago.
If you could find a cable where there the positive and negative wires are separated in parallel strands like traditional AC power cords, it would also help. I have a cheap charger with built in cord like this and it charges consistently fast.
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I'm breaking your rules (gasp) but as far as I'm aware, it's not the cable that manages the charge, it's the power adapter that feeds the usb, right? I've used all sorts of random cables on my travels for work, but always sticking to my 2+ amp output charger, and they've always worked.
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Most USB cables will work with the charger, but some cables (usually longer or smaller gauge wires) will restrict the charge to a lower amperage. I still haven't quite figured out how the phone knows what cable is being used, because, realistically, in a simple DC circuit, the consequence of using a cable that is too small is heating up or burning out. A cable that is too small alone will not prevent too much amperage from going through itself. This is why they invented fuses. Somehow the phone detects the gauge/length of cable being used and restricts the amperage being pulled from the charger by changing its own resistance on the circuit.
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Find a very short cable and you'll see rates up to 2100 ma (as measure by battery monitor widget). I use the short usb cable that came with my jambox combined with the the phones stock charger. The charger gets so hot due to the high current that I worry if it might burn out. The cable is very short, like 6 inches. I use this one when i need a quick bump before going out.
At this low of voltage plus high current, the shielding on most cables is not enough to protect against the voltage fluctuations caused by the high magnetic field. The longer the cable the more shielding is needed. Additionally, the cable shielding gets less effective as the cable gets older due to general wear. My original usb cable can only due around 740 - 1250ma, where it used to do 1800ma when new nearly 2 years ago.
If you could find a cable where there the positive and negative wires are separated in parallel strands like traditional AC power cords, it would also help. I have a cheap charger with built in cord like this and it charges consistently fast.
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I suspect you're right. The impedance of a cable is the only thing that would change over a period of time that would result in a cable that could once pull 2A to start pulling less than that. Still, it would be nice to have a list of chargers/cables that consistently pull 2A before dropping $15-$30 on one of them. There exists such a list on this forum, but it is filled with comments like "It's good enough for me", without any real data as to what performance they are getting. Hence my rules above.
The charge rate depends on your kernal not the cable. I use Agni and get over 2 amp charges from a USB cable I paid 12 cents shipped for on eBay.
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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Thank you! This is exactly the type of review I was looking for!
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Check this out. http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-choose-good-usb-data-and.htmlI found it while looking for the 6ft cable I used to use until it shorted from heavy use (bending a lot) and I got a pack of 10 short flat wire style 3ft cables. My 6ft one has a ferrite end and printed on it: 28agw/1p and 26awg/2c. It could handle 2A just fine, but this requires any wall outlet adapter that can output that amperage. The oem outlet adapter that comes with the phone says 2.0A output, but you can fine any 'reliable' one that has 2.0A output.
if the original cable is not 1800mA, there must be a reason
Get one of these
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5457&seq=1&format=2
anyone have this cable... or know if it is a 28AWG/1P + 24AWG/2C (i.e., 24AWG/2C for charging)
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U.../B004GF8TIK/ref=pd_cp_e_1/186-6092214-7798820
Hi
Hard to get something original for samsung nowadays
I have those monoprice cables but get different results every time I plug in (1698ma, 1300ma, 600ma, 460ma, etc...)
carlz28 said:
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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Which 2.1 amp charger are you using? I have one for my car, looking for one for home use. I also have the 9300mah ZeroLemon battery in my T-Mobile Note 2. Thanks!
Asquared said:
Which 2.1 amp charger are you using? I have one for my car, looking for one for home use. I also have the 9300mah ZeroLemon battery in my T-Mobile Note 2. Thanks!
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I was using the 2A charger that came with my Nexus tablet. But I bought an additional one for work.
iXCC ® Dual USB 4.2 Amp (20 Watt) SMART High Capacity [High Power] ... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPTU0OU/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_PR7.tb01EM5CB
$11.99 thru PRIME.
Had this one for almost 3 months now and it works VERY well. I get a full 1900-2000mah charge rate on the Note2 and can charge my tablet at quick speeds simultaneously.
ElDuez said:
The charge rate depends on your kernal not the cable. I use Agni and get over 2 amp charges from a USB cable I paid 12 cents shipped for on eBay.
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some fake cable limit current.
Got similar problems as the OP. I wanted to charge my phone in my car and using the phone as a navigation device without depleting the battery (which occured a few time).
Tried several usb cables, even did some mods like shorting the white and green data wire in the cabel at the phone side, but that all didn't help.
Then i came to Kopi who sells usb cables which can deliver a full current.
http://kopi-d.com/?recent_works=553
Bought a few for 6 dollar each and am now a happy camper.
shizuku said:
Got similar problems as the OP. I wanted to charge my phone in my car and using the phone as a navigation device without depleting the battery (which occured a few time).
Tried several usb cables, even did some mods like shorting the white and green data wire in the cabel at the phone side, but that all didn't help.
Then i came to Kopi who sells usb cables which can deliver a full current.
http://kopi-d.com/?recent_works=553
Bought a few for 6 dollar each and am now a happy camper.
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We're sorry, but there are no items available in the Micro USB (Android) category lol on the web site
linkhunter said:
We're sorry, but there are no items available in the Micro USB (Android) category lol on the web site
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I just saw it. Why don't you email them and ask about availability? I had contact with Victor Leung ([email protected]).
Just thought I'd share something simple that helps if ur charging ur phone in the car. I've noticed a lot of chargers charge at 1 amp. Seems like it took for ever to charge my phone in the car. I recently bought a 2.1 amp charger for $10 and the charging difference is huge. 6-7 % in 10 minutes with full brightness and gps on. Just thought I'd pass this info on. Sometimes it's the simple things we overlook..
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Just thought I'd share something simple that helps if ur charging ur phone in the car. I've noticed a lot of chargers charge at 1 amp. Seems like it took for ever to charge my phone in the car. I recently bought a 2.1 amp charger for $10 and the charging difference is huge. 6-7 % in 10 minutes with full brightness and gps on. Just thought I'd pass this info on. Sometimes it's the simple things we overlook..
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There is a lot more to it than just that. Many actual 2 amp + battery chargers refuse to charge at the full 1.9 amp. Apparently the stock samsung charger gives off a certain resistance between the data terminals. Some cheap usb cables drop the resistance to where it will not charge at full 1.9 even with the correct adapter.
I ended up soldering some resistors in my car charger and replacing the 2 wire usb cable with a 4 wire usb cable that I had laying around. It now charges at the full 1.9 amps. It's rated for 2 amps.
Found all the info here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274321
Hey primo
Could u share the link for the charger you bought and where?
Thanks.
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mine
roninep said:
Hey primo
Could u share the link for the charger you bought and where?
Thanks.
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i like this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088U4YAG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
thanks for pointing out the amps primo.. went and got 2 amp charger from biglots for 8$..much better.. was using a very old one and it was worthless.. also using factory cable instead of aftermarket made huge difference
I charge using external batteries...most of the time. I take it that using the correct cable would make a large difference as well
I use Monoprice PID 10239, works great
edit: scratch that, monoprice PID 10239 has a 3 amp fuse which blew when my gf tried to charge her iPhone at the same time as my GS4.
search TopG charger on Amazon for a more compact, fuseless 4.4A car charger. It's $9 and Prime eligible. Fuses in car chargers are pointless since the cigarette lighter receptacle is already fused to 10 or 15 amps in your car.
I bought a car charger from a Chinese eBay vendor and my phone charges from <5% to 50% in roughly 30 minutes.
I actually built my own charger that I hard wired into my car and I love it. I had a snap fish desk charger that crapped out on me, so I bought a lm2596 adjustable power supply for a couple bucks on eBay. Wired that up to the snap fish cable, adjusted the voltage and away I went. The module has a 3 amp capacity so it charges my phone or tablet quickly.
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I actually built my own charger that I hard wired into my car and I love it. I had a snap fish desk charger that crapped out on me, so I bought a lm2596 adjustable power supply for a couple bucks on eBay. Wired that up to the snap fish cable, adjusted the voltage and away I went. The module has a 3 amp capacity so it charges my phone or tablet quickly.
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i'm using one of these but the charging keeps cutting in and out. i think i may have fudged up the wiring, i wired it to an add-a-fuse but i may need to just wire it directly.
I would keep the fuse in there. You never know when these cheap electronics will crap out and could potentially start a fire. I would make sure your connections are secure. To me it sounds like loose worrying or a bad unit. I used one of those in girlfriends car, works great-I put a switch in there to cut power if not being used.
I have 4 of these. I love them. I use them with oem Samsung cables and get full charging power on 2 devices.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E1UWA4O