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This may give us some sense on how widespread the issue is. No answers based on informal fixes please.
Meaningless poll.
As long as samsung won't move the app data to the ROM instead of the internal SD, there will be a lag when opening some of the apps.
Menus flow swiftly, though.
Coming from a HTC Touch HD the lag is nonexistent in my view, what stutters people seem to be complaining about are pretty much nonevents to me.
mine had a lag (received today)...until i updated the firmware to JG3. BIG difference now
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Now this is new to me, is JG3 compatible with UK devices?
Pika007 said:
Meaningless poll.
As long as samsung won't move the app data to the ROM instead of the internal SD, there will be a lag when opening some of the apps.
Menus flow swiftly, though.
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It may be meaninless to you, but I would like to have a sense, before purchasing the phone, if this is a widespread issue or just a matter involving few noisy owners. If this is a widespread issue and I need to rely on Samsung's not so impressing update reputation, I may wait a little bit.
al74 said:
It may be meaninless to you, but I would like to have a sense, before purchasing the phone, if this is a widespread issue or just a matter involving few noisy owners. If this is a widespread issue and I need to rely on Samsung's not so impressing update reputation, I may wait a little bit.
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You have to remember, people who come into forums are the one with problems.
Nobody goes to the doctors office and say, "Look I'm healthy and I have no problems." and just walk out. Only those with problems or concerns walk into a doctors office, no?
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You have to remember, people who come into forums are the one with problems.
Nobody goes to the doctors office and say, "Look I'm healthy and I have no problems." and just walk out. Only those with problems or concerns walk into a doctors office, no?
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Not these forums. People come to XDA not only with problems but to learn more about their phone and share experiences, especially those early adopters who buy the phone right away.
I sometimes have a bit of lag, but nothing that makes me think, "why did I buy this phone", for me the Galaxy S is everything I wanted from a Android phone, it's powerful, screen is beautiful and it runs all my apps very smoothly.
The lags happened very rarely and most times the phone is snappy. Such things happened to all phones, even my wife's iphone. Still much better than winmo where most things lagged big time.
Though after I switched to using autokiller with aggressive setting, I dun get the lags anymore. My free memory also stay above 100mb all the time without me having to kill any apps manually
I disabled the samsung widgets and i am alot better now.
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We don't have the same phone or we don't know what a lag is
When I try to delete a mail it takes between 10s to 30s. If it is not a lag what is it??
On the iphone I can't tel you how fast it is as it is less than 1 seconde
And I have flashed my phone to the new rom ...
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nicoloco said:
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We don't have the same phone or we don't know what a lag is
When I try to delete a mail it takes between 10s to 30s. If it is not a lag what is it??
On the iphone I can't tel you how fast it is as it is less than 1 seconde
And I have flashed my phone to the new rom ...
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But the thing with your example is, is it really deleting the email in 1 second or is it just displaying the email is gone and just spending 9 seconds in the background actually deleting it?
It's nothing to make it appear that the email has actually gone while it actually does the work in it's own time.
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mine had a lag (received today)...until i updated the firmware to JG3. BIG difference now
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I was using it for over a week, then flashed JG3. Lags seems pretty much gone with this firmware.
I got quite horrendous lag at times on the original firmware (JF3).
Now I am on JG1 with the MoDaCo R2 ROM and Autokiller (set to aggressive originally, now trying on optimum) and I don't seem to get much lag at all, if any. It is like a different phone.
Unfortunately I did have to do a factory reset last night but that was other problems - I do hope that's not a regular occurrence though.
when I say it's a lag i mean that during 10 to 30 sec the phone is blocked with the popup box where you hit the button delete.
I must confess I don't reallycare if the mail is really gone or not in 1s ... what I know is that I have to wait 20sec to be able to open a new mail.
If the iphone is smart enough to display the mail as deleted and let me work on another one while it is really deleting the mail on the background ... it might mean that it has 2 years of advance compared to my phone as it is now. I prefer to believe that's not the case
last night I couldn't get the phone to accept my unlock pattern. had to turn it off completely and then turn it on again...
by "not accept" i mean the screen wouldn't light up red or green when i was swiping my finger over it and the screen would turn on and off.
I'm doing a factory reset now.
I also can't use the kies program - the mtp application flicks on and off.
hoping the factory reset will solve my problems...
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last night I couldn't get the phone to accept my unlock pattern. had to turn it off completely and then turn it on again...
by "not accept" i mean the screen wouldn't light up red or green when i was swiping my finger over it and the screen would turn on and off.
I'm doing a factory reset now.
I also can't use the kies program - the mtp application flicks on and off.
hoping the factory reset will solve my problems...
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I understand that you may have issues but this has nothing to do with a lag, which is what this poll and thread all about.
I just tested mine now, I have the stock JF3(?) ROM that came with the phone, I deleted an email from my Hotmail, and replied to a different email in 2 seconds, no lag in email at all.
Tachikoma_kun said:
I just tested mine now, I have the stock JF3(?) ROM that came with the phone, I deleted an email from my Hotmail, and replied to a different email in 2 seconds, no lag in email at all.
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I noticed lag sometimes on my JF3 but only when using Yahoo Mail application (from Yahoo Inc.), it just stuck in black screen at either email-loading or going back for some seconds (and many times pop-up came-up to Force Close the application _but_ after some seconds application came back).
This is the only lag I am facing related to emails. Other lag I some time notice in Dolphin HD browser when opening it first time OR switching to new link. Default browser is very fast as compare to this.
According to the thread on the Official Sony Support Community by Lemon and updated by me, Here a thread trying to list all troubles on the 4.2.2 Official Update.
If you're using a custom ROM do not list your problem here because that can be specifically a problem on your ROM.
Gracenote Update
I had approxamitely 3200 songs in my library. I attempted to update the artwork and music info using the integrated 'Download music info' option (powered by Gracenote). This repeatedly fails and crashes, and somehow managed to wipe approximitely 40 artists from my library of 150 artists. I now only have 108 artists, and have lost a lot of music, which I had paid for or ripped from CDs. I now have to do rip these all over again, and I've also wasted a considerable amount of money on MP3s which have now been wiped by shoddy software!!! I just tried to update some more files, just this moment, and while it managed to update beyond 82/800 tracks, it then failed and gave me a 'Network Error' and advised that 2 tracks had been updated - despite that it had already attempted to update more than 82 tracks!!! It's massively buggy. Not going to use it anymore in fear that it wipes more of my library.
Walkman App
Sometimes shows '-1' artists in library. When tapping into the Artist list and coming back out again, this updates and shows the correct number of artists. Why would it EVER show that I have '-1' artists in my library?!?
Android Become Slow
I've had it after the update, if you feel that your android is very slow since the update, just go to the settings, select applications and "desactivate" some useless app that eats memory, be carefull what you're desactivating, you don't need to be rooted for doing that, that helped in my case.
Earpods/Headphones Compatibility
My previous handset was the 2011 'flagship' Xperia Arc. The stock headphones which came with this handset are of a much better build quality (and tangle a lot less easily) than the stock headphones which came with the Xperia Z. However, upon connecting the Xperia Arc headphones to the Xperia Z, I get a message saying 'Headset not supported. Use another headset or visit the Sony Mobile support site for more information'.
Many earpods/headphone seems to not be supported anymore under this update, Sony needs to fix that quickly that's really annoying.
XDA Threads : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340877
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355500
MBS-100
Everytime I connect over Bluetooth to my MBS-100 (first generation) my WiFi crashes after about 4 minutes. Every time. This does NOT happen with my MBS-200. Seems Sony haven't put enough effort in testing support for their older devices/products, this is clearly also the case above with the stock Xperia Arc headphones.
SD Card bug surfacing
The Sony Xperia Z is suffering from a persistent hardware failure, which is inserted SD cards unusable. Most of time we need to reformat/restore it and in worst cases the SDCard is dead and you need to buy a new one.
I have this as well that asks me many times to check and verify my SDCARD when i use the MSC connection, if i don't do it i can't copy files on it.
XDA thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352245
Photo Album uploading with Facebook for Xperia
Tried uploading 31 pictures using the integrated share to Facebook for Xperia feature last night, on a FAST connection (Download Speed: 44.9MBPS / Upload Speed: 7.4MBPS) - 1 picture uploaded, service failed. Tried again, 2 pictures uploaded, service failed. Tried again, notification said 'Uploading pictures for about 18 minutes, before timing out and failing without uploading any pictures. Any pictures that did upload, did not upload in order either. After repeatedly attempting this about 30/40 times, I managed to upload about 17 of the 31 pictures, and had to connect by USB in order to do the rest. Seems like this feature was slapped on without any REAL testing by Sony.
Lockscreen Bypass
It is possible to bypass the lockscreen by typing '*#*#7378423#*#*' and doing an NFC test in the Service Tests menu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLq1gxIt5YQ) - this renders the handset COMPLETELY UNSECURE.
XDA Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206033
Socialife
Never updates automatically. Sometimes updates manually. Sometimes doesn't. Just tested manually refreshing this moment, today being March 26th, and nothing is showing beyond the afternoon of March 25th.
Stamina Mode / Battery Life
When first experiencing issues with my handset, a Repair was advised by support staff on the forum here, and official Sony Customer Support Staff. Following this repair, by battery life at 100% showed 4 DAYS AND 12 HOURS. A week later, on 100%, my battery life dropped to 2 DAYS AND 8 HOURS. Another week later, on 100%, my battery life is now showing 1 DAY AND 1 HOUR. All of these figures are with Stamina mode turned on. I haven't added anything to the handset to affect performance, it's simply degrading of it's own accord. Which makes me wonder why the support staff repeatedly assure us on these forums that 'the battery life will improve after a few charging cycles' - this is not the case, and there is CLEARLY a Power Management issue, which needs to be resolved.
LED Notification
Fortunately, I am not experiencing the LED issue that others have been. But it should be listed as others have been experiencing it.
Sleep of Death
Fortunately, I am not experiencing this issue. But it should be listed as others have been experiencing it, special mention for people who hard-bricked their phone, do not include that problem.
WiFi Signal Issues
Fortunately again, I am not experiencing any major WiFi issues. However, when uploading photos using Facebook for Xperia last night, it knocked off my WiFi twice for no reason. And I've also documented my WiFi issues in combination with Bluetooth to MBS-100 above.
Accessories
The 2011 flagship Xperia Arc came with quality headphones, a charger, and a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable for outputting to HDTVs. The 2013 flagship Xperia Z came with cheaper headphones, a charger and NO cable for outputting to my HDTV. I expected this to be included in the package, given the lofty pricetag, but now I realise I must go and buy an 'MHL Cable' - something I didn't even know existed until after I purchased the device. Thank you for not including this cable Sony.
If anyone has any further legitimate bugs/issues to add to the list above, let me know and I'll keep the OP updated.
If you know a fix i'll add a green comment.
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Hi.
I'm on .423 and I don't seem to have the lockscreen bug.
In fact, I cannot dial any MMI codes using the emergency dialer.
On a side note, why is this tagged as [HELP THREAD]? There's already the help thread that I've started under stickies in the Q&A Section.
kgs1992 said:
Hi.
I'm on .423 and I don't seem to have the lockscreen bug.
In fact, I cannot dial any MMI codes using the emergency dialer.
On a side note, why is this tagged as [HELP THREAD]? There's already the help thread that I've started under stickies in the Q&A Section.
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You're lucky, anyway that's interesting, what kind of ROM do you use?
For the thread i've edited with [BUGS LIST] it was just for being easily found for people, if you have a better idea for my thread i'm open to any suggestions.
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You're lucky, anyway that's interesting, what kind of ROM do you use?
For the thread i've edited with [BUGS LIST] it was just for being easily found for people, if you have a better idea for my thread i'm open to any suggestions.
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Stock ROM for C6603 from here.
[BUGS LIST] seems appropriate enough?
EDIT: There's also this SD Card bug surfacing. I have this problem too.
A bit short on patience right now, so haven't tried fixing it yet. You could add this to the list.
Thanks a lot, SDCard bug surfacing added to the list with critical severity.
musick oluarb
I'm Lemon, and these bugs have nothing to do with 4.2.2
I posted this in March, about 10 day's after the handset was launched, listing all the issues I found in the original 4.1 firmware, it's been updated a few times since.
With 4.2.2 I've only noticed a weird support issue where the software completely wiped me sd card of its own accord. I've lost ****loads of stuff as a result. It's only happened once though.
Still noticing the Walkman skipping during playback...
Some Home screen stuttering, nothing out of the ordinary for Sony.
Otherwise, 4.2.2 is much improved.
how are the lack of accessories, notably a mhl cable part of the bugs/issues with 4.2.2 ?
I don't know how to describe it wxactly but since the update (2 days ago), my phone has became super slow.
On 4.1 it was great never experienced any lag.. but now it feels like I'm holding my tired old phone again..
It goes from opening apps, through unsmoothly scrolling and floating around, to the lockscreen it self which can take about 3-8 seconds to show up image from black after pressinv power button to wake him up..
Also for unlocking, sliding up to move from lock screen to home screen can be laggy, stucky, and takes time...
Furthermore, WiFi signal (or atleast the icon showing) is poor and barely reaching my router when I'm 3 meters away..
As for not getting anything exciting from the update, or any changes, cool features from stock 4.2 (hmm som1 said notification toggles?) , I'm pretty disappointed, I would return back if that possible
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I don't know how to describe it wxactly but since the update (2 days ago), my phone has became super slow.
On 4.1 it was great never experienced any lag.. but now it feels like I'm holding my tired old phone again..
It goes from opening apps, through unsmoothly scrolling and floating around, to the lockscreen it self which can take about 3-8 seconds to show up image from black after pressinv power button to wake him up..
Also for unlocking, sliding up to move from lock screen to home screen can be laggy, stucky, and takes time...
Furthermore, WiFi signal (or atleast the icon showing) is poor and barely reaching my router when I'm 3 meters away..
As for not getting anything exciting from the update, or any changes, cool features from stock 4.2 (hmm som1 said notification toggles?) , I'm pretty disappointed, I would return back if that possible
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Yep i've seen many people complaigning about that too, btw you can disable some useless app on settings => applications, select one and choose "desactivate" that's helepd so much for me.
what in the world.. and .423 just came to my phone updates and it's now stuck in the notification bar but seeing all these makes me doesn't want to update it anymore ._.
From last night i am facing a problem where when I connect my headset (samsung) to my xperia z1 it displays the error *Headset not supported. Use another headset or visit the Sony Mobile support site for more information.*
I used to use this headset everyday but unfortunately it had stopped working.
Further, if i use any other headset, it displays the same message.
I have not updated my phone nor have i installed any mod or app.
Can anyone tell me the fix please?
Thank you!!
I meant to create this thread a while ago, but thought it was now time to do so given the fact I'm getting 2-3 reboots per day, and doing lots of different things.
The last reboot was just as I begun to upload a YouTube video, but it can happen when doing anything - or when doing nothing (as in it will sit on a desk and restart by itself).
I can now see other people talking about it, but it would be good to establish just how big a problem there is and perhaps work out how/why it's happening?
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I meant to create this thread a while ago, but thought it was now time to do so given the fact I'm getting 2-3 reboots per day, and doing lots of different things.
The last reboot was just as I begun to upload a YouTube video, but it can happen when doing anything - or when doing nothing (as in it will sit on a desk and restart by itself).
I can now see other people talking about it, but it would be good to establish just how big a problem there is and perhaps work out how/why it's happening?
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Have done a factory reset? I've seen a few reports of reboots and soft-reboots and it could very well be user installed apps, settings and other stuff causing it.
Try a full factory reset and install the most "needed" stuff only. Try it for a day or two.
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I'm really not keen on doing that if I can help it. I'd sooner wait for an update, or someone figuring out what is causing the problem if there's a workaround temporarily.
Over the years I've done loads of resets and reinstalls, only to find it doesn't fix the problem and just wasted hours of my time.
Getting the random reboots as well. On a couple of occasions I had a running out of memory message just before reboot. Nothing installed I didn't have on previous Samsungs with no issues.
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travisb said:
Getting the random reboots as well. On a couple of occasions I had a running out of memory message just before reboot. Nothing installed I didn't have on previous Samsungs with no issues.
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I've been at an exhibition today and it was quite embarrassing (and frustrating) to have it crash twice. Once when uploading the YouTube videos (as mentioned) - which fortunately resumed okay, and then later when I was trying to watch the Apple event (via The Verge).
One thing I've noticed from the beginning, is that changing settings sometimes required a reboot to take effect
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I'm not expecting much, but I'm now downloading the Central Europe FTF and will flash that to see if it makes any difference at all (currently on commercial/journalist version).
Anything I can try that won't force me to start from scratch has to be worth it.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/22/minor-xperia-z1-update-14-1-g-2-259-certified/
looks like a minor bug fix fw is coming real soon.
In the interest of scientific research (and reading the high CPU thread) I've backed up my sd card, re formatted it and just copied the music and DCIM folders back in, to see if that makes any difference. Card is genuine SanDisk 32gb class 10 card. Watch this space.
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Gitaroo said:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/22/minor-xperia-z1-update-14-1-g-2-259-certified/
looks like a minor bug fix fw is coming real soon.
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Good news. Some weird stuff happening here.
Latest issue was the phone vibrating solid when pinch zooming (in or out) which was rather annoying!
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Good news. Some weird stuff happening here.
Latest issue was the phone vibrating solid when pinch zooming (in or out) which was rather annoying!
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Glad to see Sony keeping up with the updates
I have the same problem with the Z1. Also on ...257 and using 4G/3G. On the old firmware the phone hard-crashed several times and needed at 'hard-reset' at the simcard. But that happens not now - only 'soft restarts'. But very annoying. It happens both when using the phone and when its idle (in the night for example it restarts several times). You can see the restarts in the log on the phone.
I have some 'old' samsungs and they almost never restarts (sometime app's closes - but thats different) . I didn't expect such an unstable product from Sony when it's so expensive.
The value doesn't matter. It's just a silly bug that they need to fix quickly. I fear it will be a few weeks potentially for us to get it.
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The value doesn't matter. It's just a silly bug that they need to fix quickly. I fear it will be a few weeks potentially for us to get it.
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I've not had a single random restart.. I've been on Global LTE firmware for a week and have just changed to Central Europe one.. Will report if anything happens...
Two this evening with central Europe firmware, so clearly need new version ASAP. It's almost getting to the point where I can't use it because reset will happen at any moment.
Yes, also had 2 in last 30 minutes. So sd card reformat not a cure.I've contacted @SonyXperiagb on Twitter to see if they are aware of problem.
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it is a bug on sony fw and appear on google 4.1 - 4.2 android. it has something to do with wifi sleep power policy and wakelocks, im not sure. I had experience this problem with many devices on 4.1 and 4.2, include samsung ones. The easiest way to fix is to reset to factory and trace back your steps, anything to do with wifi (auto update, auto upload) is the culpit. Or if you can remember, try to trace back so you dont have to factory reset .
on .534, i had this problem when turning on update via wifi only in update center settings, get sod and constant restarts. disable it does not help, only to find out has to reenable again backlight optimisation.
Good luck!
I don't think that's it. Just need to wait for fix. Didn't have problem before this update, ever.
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I don't think that's it. Just need to wait for fix. Didn't have problem before this update, ever.
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the fix are only those i told , further more updates will fix it but you can do it manually your self
A factory reset with a whole world of pain, and no guarantee it won't still mess up, isn't really a solution to me. Sorry!
Hi,
I have a Z3 Compact running pre-rooted Android 5.1.1 Lollipop. I got a notification about software update that i can't dismiss. i don't know if i should upgrade or not so force stopped the software update app.
What is your opinion about Marshmallow?
Are there any bugs?
Are there new features added and some features removed?
Is it worth upgrading to Mashmallow or should i keep Lollipop?
sorry i can't upgrade without user reviews
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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How do you disable the notification? For which app do I have to do that?
Dont update to Mm.. There is some feature that missed..like battery stamina/ultra stamina..and also the battery drain fast..
Im a z3 compact Mm user
+1 for don't do it (now)
For me I will stay for not specified time at LP (mainly because of custom kernel).
Didgesteve said:
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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Thanks. Is it safe to disable software update app?
i don't want unexpected bugs happen or boot loop
evildog1 said:
Thanks. Is it safe to disable software update app?
i don't want unexpected bugs happen or boot loop
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The next time you see a notification, hold your finger on the notification and the bar will turn black and you will see an information 'i' on the right side, press this.
This will bring up the notification option.
Alternatively, go to settings\apps\scroll to the right until >all apps > 'update centre'
Then - force stop, untick notifications, clear cache/data
You won't get any more notifications about MM and no this won't harm or damage your phone in any way. Your phone will work fine on 5.1 for years and years, it doesn't need MM
Didgesteve said:
The next time you see a notification, hold your finger on the notification and the bar will turn black and you will see an information 'i' on the right side, press this.
This will bring up the notification option.
Alternatively, go to settings\apps\scroll to the right until >all apps > 'update centre'
Then - force stop, untick notifications, clear cache/data
You won't get any more notifications about MM and no this won't harm or damage your phone in any way. Your phone will work fine on 5.1 for years and years, it doesn't need MM
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Ok i just uninstall updates, force stop, and clear data, but i could not disable the notification.
evildog1 said:
Ok i just uninstall updates, force stop, and clear data, but i could not disable the notification.
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If you have root, then go to the market and install ES Explorer
Open it, go to menu, look at the bottom 'tools'.
tick 'root explorer'
Go back to the top of the menu and find "home/device/system/app"
Look for "com.sonyericsson.updatecenter.apk"
Make a copy and save it somewhere, like Downloads.
Then delete the original in system/app.
If there is a problem you can always put the copy back in the folder, otherwise you will never get another update message again:good:
Didgesteve said:
If you have root, then go to the market and install ES Explorer
Open it, go to menu, look at the bottom 'tools'.
tick 'root explorer'
Go back to the top of the menu and find "home/device/system/app"
Look for "com.sonyericsson.updatecenter.apk"
Make a copy and save it somewhere, like Downloads.
Then delete the original in system/app.
If there is a problem you can always put the copy back in the folder, otherwise you will never get another update message again:good:
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Thanks. I just froze it using Titanium Backup
and i'm using X-plore with dual pane
Just like when Sony released 5.0 Lollipop, it was full of bugs and the battery life sucked. It wasn't until 5.1 came out that we finally got a usable ROM. Expect more of the same with MM. Wait until 6.1 is released before upgrading. Especially those who are not rooted. There's no fixes and no turning back for those users.
Sent from the only flagship device that can fit in my hand... Sony Experia Z3 Compact
Sorry to bring back an old thread but I just bought this phone secondhand and its on 5.1 and have received the update notification. Have the bugs that are in the above comments been fixed in 6.1 or is it still not worth upgrading to Marshmallow?
warzinak said:
Sorry to bring back an old thread but I just bought this phone secondhand and its on 5.1 and have received the update notification. Have the bugs that are in the above comments been fixed in 6.1 or is it still not worth upgrading to Marshmallow?
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For me, the most horrible is the delay when opening apps:
Lag manifests on this way: in response to launching app (Dialer let say) "window"/app pops up immediately but is is empty/white and only after a sec/two content shows up (for Dialer recent call list, favourites/frequent contacts, search). Minimizing app and immediately opening again is ok (it is in cache, background, memory), instant content shows up. But if I launch another app after minimizing dialer and then start dialer again - lag in Dialer is there. As if somehow Dialer is killed in background and need to relaunch again from the start (even full relaunch should not take that long anyway). Same as killing it in recent activities. All other stock apps behave this way. It is really annoying to see such a powerfull phone lags in this basic stock apps, as this doesn't happen on previous android versions (4.4.4, 5.0.2 or 5.1.1).
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
Fictional Reality said:
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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Indeed, I bought an iPad mini, downgraded z3c to KK and life is good.
I use my phone now for what phones are meant to - calling, occasional e-mail, messaging, weather, etc. Battery life is 4..5 days. The car bluetooth shows addressbook again (did not work with LP, MM).
I use power toggles as lock screen widget for bluetooth, wifi, hotspot switch. Lock screen does not require additional swipe. All other things, in reality, work as they work with LP, MM.
For heavy use larger screen is recommended anyway - for the health of your eyes first of all.
Fictional Reality said:
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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bookworth said:
Indeed, I bought an iPad mini, downgraded z3c to KK and life is good.
I use my phone now for what phones are meant to - calling, occasional e-mail, messaging, weather, etc. Battery life is 4..5 days. The car bluetooth shows addressbook again (did not work with LP, MM).
I use power toggles as lock screen widget for bluetooth, wifi, hotspot switch. Lock screen does not require additional swipe. All other things, in reality, work as they work with LP, MM.
For heavy use larger screen is recommended anyway - for the health of your eyes first of all.
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Really? What problems did LP & MM bring to the z3c? If it is just better battery then I think I will stay with LP...(unless its twice as good on KK). The camera quality is important for me, are any of them better/worse than others?
Do I just use a 23.0.1.A.5.77 FTF file from here and flash it using Flashtool as the instructions here? I have not rooted or unlocked bootloader, all stock.
warzinak said:
Really? What problems did LP & MM bring to the z3c? If it is just better battery then I think I will stay with LP...(unless its twice as good on KK). The camera quality is important for me, are any of them better/worse than others?
Do I just use a 23.0.1.A.5.77 FTF file from here and flash it using Flashtool as the instructions here? I have not rooted or unlocked bootloader, all stock.
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There is nothing wrong in MM.
Except for some people who do not use phone 12x7.
Since the concept ROM I was wondering why the battery gets empty even if I do nothing with it. The answer was Doze of course. Yes, I tried several ways for activating aggressive doze, but was not satisfied with these.
Then I decided to go retro and KitKat is all I really need, with its working STAMINA.
For camera I use Sony A6000 and you really can not compare real camera with phone.
If you use your phone heavily, please do not downgrade.
If you have smartwatch, please do not downgrade.
If you feel unsure about flashing, please do not downgrade.
If the warranty is dickbutt in your country - please do not downgrade.
If you still decide to downgrade, then yes, your instructions are correct.
NB! The flash will take long time. Be pacient. It seems to be stuck but it just stays in one place for 5..10 minutes and then everything is ok. I have not measured the exact time, but I was horrified at first flash - it really seemed stuck. Perhaps it is just with my phone.
Scared of MM, really?
Firstly its been out quite some time now, especially if you consider N has just been released to the Nexus range.
Stamina mode and Doze are fantastic, I get 2 days+ with my compact and it's on 24/7.
I also have audited my startup items and background apps to reduce load on then phone which pays dividends.
The initial MM upgrade didn't include Stamina but Sony have since released an update bringing it to the masses.
Your call in the end but don't let scaremongerers cloud your judgement, do some reading, reviews from good sources and make your own minds up.
I did and only issue I had, which I know probably isn't just down to MM, was the emergency dialling issue on lockscreen.
3rd party app cured that for me so now the phone doesn't sit in my pocket making random noises and dialling whoever it pleases anymore!
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LP running fine for me. I only have 1 bug is video playback freezing while buffering.
asmetoma said:
Stamina mode and Doze are fantastic, I get 2 days+ with my compact and it's on 24/7.
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I've got 4...5 days with KitKat, phone is also on 24/7 (but of course, I do not USE it 24/7). No root.
It's not about scare - the phone is too cheap to be scared, besides there are many new phones to choose from with really good batteries.
However, I do not feel that I should change the phone and I like when I do not have to charge it often.
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Perhaps one should take into consideration that the workload of the phones has been increased a lot during last few years. Specially if you have smart devices etc.
My UI freezes for 5 - 15 seconds, particularly when the phone regains network connectivity (reconnecting wifi or mobile network going from 0 to 1 bars). It's much improved after removing FB and Insta but. My launcher is even getting closed when the phone frequently, although the phone has ~500MB free RAM.
I dropped this poor phone one too many times, so before I replace it with another z3 compact, I'm wondering if everyone else on Marshmallow is seeing poor responsiveness as well.
I did have slow downs before but not like that,I have switched to Lineage and it works very well so I don't have any plans going back to stock Marshmallow.
yeah same here, i advice you to switch to lineage, you will feel like butter on the screen.
I don't have any lags at all, no launcher refreshes or whatever on stock MM. ( I don't use the horrible Facebook application)
Until 3 weeks ago, I used to have no lags at all on my stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Z3C. I had uptime of 50 days and more and it didn't lag. Now, it happened twice in a row that my System RAM usage grew in last 5 days to 1,3 GB! It seems like a memory leak in kernel space. It's hard to pinpoint particular process. The phone is slow, multitasking doesn't work (reloads every app), my stock launcher redraws and the phone is unable to make/receive GSM calls - probably a symptom of low on memory state. I wonder, if it's caused by bluetooth driver, because I've transfered 100MB file on both occasions. I need more time to analyze this, this time I won't turn bluetooth on, so I can see if it is the cause.
Edit: I'm confident the cause is not bluetooth. Symptoms now appear after just 65 hours of uptime - . Now I tried to get rid of ES File Explorer, let's see what this bloatware did to system performace.
Edit 2: It seems the problem is gone after uninstalling ES File Explorer. Before uninstalling it had data storage set to external SD card. I replaced this piece of bloatware by open-source explorer called Amaze.
Thanks all. I was avoiding Lineage because I wanted the stock camera / DRM and their description makes it sound very unstable... "random reboots while charging", etc. I'll try it out anyway and add the stock camera back in if it runs well.
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Until 3 weeks ago...
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Do share the source of the issue if you find it. I'm still seeing UI lockups when the phone loses internet connectivity.
jayarmstrong said:
Thanks all. I was avoiding Lineage because I wanted the stock camera / DRM and their description makes it sound very unstable... "random reboots while charging", etc. I'll try it out anyway and add the stock camera back in if it runs well.
Do share the source of the issue if you find it. I'm still seeing UI lockups when the phone loses internet connectivity.
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camera works like stock in lineage, don't worry about that. you can face with other small bugs but still worth to use, it is better than stock in most cases.
having the same issue since a few weeks.
device gets VERY slow (i mean like 10 seconds to open the phone dialer or whats app)
Even did a factory reset, which only helped for ~2 days ...
same problem with my girlfriends Z3C.
Something is very wrong here ...
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Until 3 weeks ago, I used to have no lags at all on my stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Z3C. I had uptime of 50 days and more and it didn't lag. Now, it happened twice in a row that my System RAM usage grew in last 5 days to 1,3 GB! It seems like a memory leak in kernel space. It's hard to pinpoint particular process. The phone is slow, multitasking doesn't work (reloads every app), my stock launcher redraws and the phone is unable to make/receive GSM calls - probably a symptom of low on memory state. I wonder, if it's caused by bluetooth driver, because I've transfered 100MB file on both occasions. I need more time to analyze this, this time I won't turn bluetooth on, so I can see if it is the cause.
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Icefeldt said:
having the same issue since a few weeks.
device gets VERY slow (i mean like 10 seconds to open the phone dialer or whats app)
Even did a factory reset, which only helped for ~2 days ...
same problem with my girlfriends Z3C.
Something is very wrong here ...
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there must be a reason that it is slow as hell in stock while it works with jet speed in lineage. something related to sony software, hardware is okay.
Wipe cache (Power and vol+ until 3 Vibrations) helped a little, but i don't put too much hope in it.
It's my gf's Phone so i kind of hesitate to install some unstable beta on it. Or is there any real stable release out there?
Sony haven't pushed out any updates for over a year, so not sure how you can blame it on MM build.
It'll be an app.
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
No lags or slowdowns on my phone, had the same build on it for a year now.
Autoupdates turned OFF.
No Facebook/Messanger.
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Sony haven't pushed out any updates for over a year, so not sure how you can blame it on MM build.
It'll be an app.
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
No lags or slowdowns on my phone, had the same build on it for a year now.
Autoupdates turned OFF.
No Facebook/Messanger.
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Guess you're right, but i can't really accept a SD801 Phone being unable to run basic apps like FB
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Guess you're right, but i can't really accept a SD801 Phone being unable to run basic apps like FB
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Last year Facbook deliberatly broke their app, made it run slow and heat your phone up, as an experiment, to see what people would do. They honestly don't give a sh*t about what you think of thier app.
Uninstall it and use your browser, see if it makes a difference.
Try SD Maid from the playstore, that does some good basic houskeeping
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Nope.
I do not have a Facebook account.
Therefore I do not have facebook or messenger installed.
But I do have these slowdowns :-/
I read in an italian forum that it's the Google app fault, you should unistall updates and disable automatic updates until it's fixed.
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I read in an italian forum that it's the Google app fault, you should unistall updates and disable automatic updates until it's fixed.
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Interesting.
You got a link to that thread/post?
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Interesting.
You got a link to that thread/post?
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here and previous page
It seems the problem is gone after uninstalling ES File Explorer. Before uninstalling it had data storage set to external SD card. I replaced this piece of bloatware by open-source explorer called Amaze.
Now I have an uptime of 125 hours and counting, my System RAM usage is 0.90 GB and it isn't rising to 1.3 GB as it did before. So the phone is really smooth again. When I was checking my LogCat using DDMS, there seemed to be recurring message of ES File Explorer (estrong) leaking something, I don't remember if it was a window or an activity. What a piece of chinese malware it became. Interestingly, ES File Explorer's memory footprint was low (3 processes, 10MB total user space memory), even when leaking memory and this made debugging harder. Although I killed it, when the phone had problem (1.3 GB system memory), only a reboot worked. It totally seems like a memory leak to me.
GL debugging yours.
it works good with me ..
try to make clean install
I'm not going back to this crappy app. Once, it used to be outstanding, but they probably sold the app to another company in China and from there it went downhill. A lot of popups and ads for things I don't need. Their only purpose is to make your phone slower (bloatware) and optionally, to get money from you. I like simple, minimalistic apps, which do things they are designed for and do it right. Just this Linux approach and also "less is sometimes more".
It's confirmed that ES File Explorer makes network connections to China in background, no thanks!