Brightness, no more Auto - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I haven't used Lollipop at all yet, just picked up the N6 yesterday. Autobrightness is gone, now they want you to slide around the bar to however you want it with adaptive brightness? now how does this work? lets say I set it to full brightness and enable adaptive, itll use anywhere from 0-100%? is the bar just to cap it somewhere so it doesn't exceed? if so what do you have yours set to? Whats a good way to do this all and avoid image burn, ha. which I Heard is kinda a big deal

imablackhat said:
I haven't used Lollipop at all yet, just picked up the N6 yesterday. Autobrightness is gone, now they want you to slide around the bar to however you want it with adaptive brightness? now how does this work? lets say I set it to full brightness and enable adaptive, itll use anywhere from 0-100%? is the bar just to cap it somewhere so it doesn't exceed? if so what do you have yours set to? Whats a good way to do this all and avoid image burn, ha. which I Heard is kinda a big deal
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That's exactly how adaptive brightness works. I have my slider set around 25-30%. I change it if I need more outdoors.

imablackhat said:
I haven't used Lollipop at all yet, just picked up the N6 yesterday. Autobrightness is gone, now they want you to slide around the bar to however you want it with adaptive brightness? now how does this work? lets say I set it to full brightness and enable adaptive, itll use anywhere from 0-100%? is the bar just to cap it somewhere so it doesn't exceed? if so what do you have yours set to? Whats a good way to do this all and avoid image burn, ha. which I Heard is kinda a big deal
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This is how I understand it and how I believe it works.
With adaptive brightness OFF, you have your brightness slider in the pulldown that goes from ~5% to 100%. This slider set value will remain until you manually change it. Easy enough.
With adaptive brightness ON, you have that same slider in the pulldown that goes from 0% to 100%. Your brightness will change automagically dependent upon ambient light. Look at it as "minimum automated brightness level"
Some tips. Your screen can get darker with adaptive ON and slider all the way down than with adaptive OFF and slider all the way down. Unless in very bright ambient light, your screen can get brighter with adaptive OFF and slider all the way up. Hence, in full sunlight, the peak brightness of the screen is the same with adaptive either ON or OFF and slider all the way up.
I admit its confusing and it frustrated me at first, but I think its excellent and works much better than auto brightness on any other phone or older android OS I've ever used.
As far as burn in (or the more often occurring image retention), well its an amoled, it's susceptible. Just be smart about it and don't display the same static image/s for hours on end.

jbdan said:
Look at it as "minimum automated brightness level"
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I used to think that but after testing, it seems more complicated than that.. It also looks like to may apply a "range" using the slider, but its more complicated than that too.
The closest thing I can think of is it increases the sensitivity or effectiveness of the adaptive brightness.
Have a look at our tests here, maybe you can do some testing and develop our initial findings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/thread-t1889453/post60222532

I'd love to set it to an exact percentage cuz I'm ocd that's why I hate the slider. How do I really know it's at 25%
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imablackhat said:
I'd love to set it to an exact percentage cuz I'm ocd that's why I hate the slider. How do I really know it's at 25%
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Yeah but once you know 25% is 63.75 on the brightness scale and brightness can only register full numbers, you're day is blown anyway.

rootSU said:
I used to think that but after testing, it seems more complicated than that.. It also looks like to may apply a "range" using the slider, but its more complicated than that too.
The closest thing I can think of is it increases the sensitivity or effectiveness of the adaptive brightness.
Have a look at our tests here, maybe you can do some testing and develop our initial findings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/thread-t1889453/post60222532
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I think you nailed it better than I did in my explanation with your statement "increases the sensitivity or effectiveness of the adaptive brightness".
My explanation was as simple as I could write it. I especially like the word "range". Thanks for the link I'll check it out :thumbup:

So is it true if its set half way if the sun hits it that it can use 100%. What do you guys have it set to? I liked the auto brightness ?
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imablackhat said:
So is it true if its set half way if the sun hits it that it can use 100%. What do you guys have it set to? I liked the auto brightness ?
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Yes if the sun, or even very bright ambient light hits the sensor, the display will go to 100% full brightness with adaptive ON. At least it does with mine (to my aging eyes). I leave mine at about 50% adaptive ON. I like it too

imablackhat said:
So is it true if its set half way if the sun hits it that it can use 100%. What do you guys have it set to? I liked the auto brightness ?
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I use manual.brightness.

For everyone testing display settings have a look at 'Pixel battery saver' in the play store.
The app switches patterns of pixels off and saves energy.
Note.
Because this kind of apps are switching pixels off, it is possible that ticking buttons will not work.
But there is an option to turn it off, and several levels of settings.

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[SOLVED] lower brightness option for night time browsing (like night mode)

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone new how to lower the brightness level to below that of stock, up to the level of night mode if I needed.
I like to do a bit of browsing before I sleep, and the brightness levels even on the lowest hurt my eyes! If anyone knows how to do this I would very much appreciate it. Thanks!
UPDATE: Issue helped, and possibly resolved with the help of my mate Rich @ Geek you Up. Check out his app in my thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644649
Dude I'm with you,but I don't think is even possible,and if someone find a way,I would like to increased more for the sunlight.
jongie123 said:
Dude I'm with you,but I don't think is even possible,and if someone find a way,I would like to increased more for the sunlight.
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Ive been looking at the Auto-Brightness thread and it seems Cyan already knows how to tweek the brightness values, but I dont even know what a github is let alone the deving needed to acheive this.
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Anyway, the Desire has 10 auto-brightness levels, and the N1 has only 5. These are just an array of lux/brightness values. I put them into my vendor overlay and rebuilt, and I have to say it's much nicer. I'm going to include it in the next CM.
http://github.com/cyanogen/android_...mmit/9dca8ad9cfdbe74eae6961ee805dd8c9523a43c4
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Cyan if you can help, I would appreciate it!! But understand if the modding is far more important
Like how the brightness dims before the screen auto turns off, or how it is dim when you tap the sleep button in the clock application - these would be good. As for that stock widget that controls the wifi,blutooth,gps,sync and brightness, i never touch it because it messes with autobrightness, but if it could be changed to temporarily go really dim thatd be perfect
jamesyb0i said:
Like how the brightness dims before the screen auto turns off, or how it is dim when you tap the sleep button in the clock application - these would be good. As for that stock widget that controls the wifi,blutooth,gps,sync and brightness, i never touch it because it messes with autobrightness, but if it could be changed to temporarily go really dim thatd be perfect
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Either my friend! The clock application goes even dimmer than I want, so somewhere in between would be great. But I'm sure that could be customized, I just dont know where to start looking..
I'd be really interested in this too - I like reading in bed before going to sleep, but the wife doesn't like the light being on. I have to angle my nexus slightly away as it is too bright, even at the lowest setting, to have it directly facing me while in a dark room.

[Q] Light Sensor Not Working?

Someone correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't enabling the option of "Automatic brightness adjustment" under the brightness menu in sounds and display enable the light sensor to adjust the brightness of the LCD based on ambient lighting? I notice no difference with my brightness and it is always one static level. I've tried putting it up to different lights, taking it outside, etc and it doesn't automatically adjust. I couldn't find anything in a search for this... does anyone else have this problem?
I have this problem as well. What firmware are you running and do you have any mods or sre or anything?
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I'm just running stock firmware rooted, I'm going to flash to some kind of rom eventually but just haven't had the time
Are there any roms that this option is confirmed working?
Mine is stock and seems to work just fine. It changes brightness as I move through the office between dark reading rooms and bright conference rooms.
I'm not a big fan of that feature in any of my phones. I prefer to have a constant bright screen, but I haven't bothered turning it off yet for some reason.
Weird how mine doesn't work.. I just waste battery life while I am in the office with the phone and wish it would auto adjust. I'm trying the beautiful brightness widget but I find it tedious to have to micro manage my brightness before going outside
Have you installed any type of screen protector that requires the use of water to apply? I'm wondering if that's what happened to mine.
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Auto brightness doesn't seem to be working too well in JH7 for me. Keeps the brightness all the way down in my lit up room. Worked best on the original JF6.
I have seen my screen change brightness a few times with the automatic setting, but I generally keep it on the lowest brightness to save battery. I'm running the stock firmware.
My biggest problem with the auto brightness is that the dynamic range isn't wide enough. Even in direct sunlight, it doesn't bump up to maximum brightness. The high should be higher, and the low should be loooower.
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No screen protector, just a Body Guards case
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I noticed the same...no change in brightness when "auto" is selected. From day 1. I keep my brightness pretty low to save battery life, so it wasn't a deal breaker. Would be nice if it worked though.
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automatic brightness behaviour

Hi!
The automatic brightness on my Xperia Z behaves weird (altough I think it is a bug)
This is what happens:
I have the phone set to "adapt to light conditions" (automatic brightness)
Now when I slide the brightness slider, the brightness changes. But, depending on the setting of the slider, it will not go to full brightness or darkest on its own. When I turn off "adapt to light conditions", it becomes brighter or darker, depending on slider position. But it will never go to 100% on it's own, not even directly under a lamp. It also becomes a little brighter when I turn off automatic brightness and have the slider set to 100%.
Expected behaviour:
I turn on automatic brightness, and put the slider in a, let's say, 60% position. The phone goes to 2% brightness in a pitch dark room (when I read in bed) and switches to 100% when I'm outside in the bright sun. When it does not sense extreme conditions (e.g. sensor reading <20% ambient brightness or >80% respectively; then gradiently going to darkest or brightest gradiently, of course), it aims for the +-60% brightness I specified with the slider.
Conclusion: The slider is an overall threshold for screen brightness and it does not adjust in a 2-100% brightness range, but around maybe +-30% or so around the position the slider is set at. This sucks!
This seems to clearly be a bug, and imho this contributed to the somewhat "not so impressed with the screen" reviews I read before I bought it. Because the screen is really very good if it is set to the correct brightness.
Thanks for the answers!
PS: When I enter the service menu with *#*#7378423#*#* and check the ambient light sensor, it gives me values between 0 and 1000 - so it does definitely work correctly. Build number is 10.1.A.1.350 - I know there is a newer one, but my phone is carrier branded (3 Austria, for that matter) and hasn't been updated yet, unfortunately. Can someone confirm that is is fixed in .434?
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I dont think this is a bug. It's been like that on the t, tx, v since they were launched.
LitoNi said:
I dont think this is a bug. It's been like that on the t, tx, v since they were launched.
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Really? This is almost a deal breaker for me :/ that is a really stupid behaviour, what do I need automatic brightness for if I have to change it myself anyway? I really don't want to care about this miniscule thing on a 600€ device - I expect it to adapt to all conditions.
I didn't want to root it or put a custom rom on it - Sony did a good job with the software as it is, except the automatic brightness.
Sony phone has the best auto brightness
You can find on any phone.
You can say Samsung's auto brightness sucks but not Sony
In auto mode you have the choice to set the minimum brightness level you want and the level will go up depends on the lighting situation and sensor reading.
Yes it has some threshold limitations but it's very sufficient.
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gm007 said:
Sony phone has the best auto brightness
You can find on any phone.
You can say Samsung's auto brightness sucks but not Sony
In auto mode you have the choice to set the minimum brightness level you want and the level will go up depends on the lighting situation and sensor reading.
Yes it has some threshold limitations but it's very sufficient.
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Sorry, but "best auto brightness" is not what would've come to my mind thinking about the xz and I would never buy a Samsung plastic brick
I had a Nokia N9 previously (that I miss dearly, but the internal 3G antenna was broken so I had to replace it... still by far the best phone I ever owned) and it had exactly the auto brightness behaviour I expected - when I read in the dark, it when down to the lowest possible setting. And when I was in bright sunlight, it went to full brightness wihtout a delay or hassle. I could read it perfectly under any condition and never thought about the settings. The slider only indicated a preferred standard brightness - always had it at 60% and it was perfect.
I really don't understand why other manufacturers wouldn't do it exactly the same way? As I said before, why even have an auto brightness setting if I have to go to settings to adjust it anyway?!?! If I put the slider on 60% and auto brightness on, it burns my eyes in the dark and I can't read it in bright sunlight - I even have to adjust it when the sun shines through my windows at work?!?! WTF Sony?
We are talking android here
I don't know if you had the chance to use gingerbread,froyo....
Maybe android has some limitations.
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gm007 said:
We are talking android here
I don't know if you had the chance to use gingerbread,froyo....
Maybe android has some limitations.
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iirc it didn't annoy me (and boy am I picky about details like that! ) on the HTC Magic (up to the last CM that supported it) and the Nexus S I had before the N9... anyway, seems I have to get a decent brightness toggle widget :/ (maybe you can point one out?)
but thanks for your replies!
just for the record and anyone who may find this thread in the future:
I just installed "Auto Brightness" and it seems to work well and has tons of settings. Would have preferred a more native solution... I hope this doesn't drain the battery.
dr. g

Anyway to raise the minimum brightness for stock slider?

So the difference between say 1% and 0% is huge on my phone. 0% (all the way down) is unreadable is there is any kind of sun in the area. 1% however is not. I know I can use tasker or whatever to change it to 1% automatically but I often manually use the slider and would like it to never go below 1%, but still have the convenience of being able to slide all the way to the left (very quick)
This is possible, or only with something like Lux or Tasker? I am rooted btw running xposed if that matters
Thanks!
Just to make sure you aware, if you have the brightness set at manual, full brightness is never as bright as it will be in auto. If you are set in auto and go out in the sun, the screen will get about ten percent brighter then it would at full setting on manual. So it is best to let the phone manage the brightness on auto. It knows what is best for you. Let it run your life as it should. Muhahahahaha.
Solarenemy68 said:
Just to make sure you aware, if you have the brightness set at manual, full brightness is never as bright as it will be in auto. If you are set in auto and go out in the sun, the screen will get about ten percent brighter then it would at full setting on manual. So it is best to let the phone manage the brightness on auto. It knows what is best for you. Let it run your life as it should. Muhahahahaha.
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I suppose I can try auto but honestly, I havent been using Auto in nearly 2 years because it has always sucked. Didnt realize that auto could get brighter than manual though. Good to know.
Dude forget about stock auto brightness or using manual go download LUX in the play store. Beats the pants of stock management plus let's you set minimum, maximums and how bright to be in certain areas. Check it out
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Anyone having issues with Screen Brightness level resetting?

Is anyone experiencing issues with screen brightness adjusting itself without you changing it? I'm not talking about auto-adjusting from adaptive brightness - I'm talking about the slider moving up on its own. I keep it around 25% or so often to save battery life during heavier usage, and after turning the screen off and checking moments later, the brightness level will be up around 50-75% (it varies). I've only noticed this since the Pie update, and I'm not sure if it happens while adaptive brightness option is turned off. Anyone else have this issue?
Pie made a change were "Adaptive Brightness" literally means the slider moves on its own(and is now the absolute brightness). Its supposed to be more clever than the "offset" style slider we had before because it "learns your preferences" if you move it manually. I guess the idea goes you just keep adjusting it manually if you don't like the setting it chose and the next time it encounters that level of light it uses your setting instead of what it usually would have used. Seems pretty cool to be honest.
CurtisMJ said:
Pie made a change were "Adaptive Brightness" literally means the slider moves on its own(and is now the absolute brightness). Its supposed to be more clever than the "offset" style slider we had before because it "learns your preferences" if you move it manually. I guess the idea goes you just keep adjusting it manually if you don't like the setting it chose and the next time it encounters that level of light it uses your setting instead of what it usually would have used. Seems pretty cool to be honest.
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Ah, OK, I didn't realize that. It does sound cool, as long as it starts remembering where I like it. I do move it around though during different times/situations, so I may just turn it off and manually adjust when I need to. Thanks for the info.

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