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[Q]Unlocked Bootloader,TWRP and 4.4.2 Update

Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!

msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.

dray_jr said:
if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
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yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy

msespindola said:
yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.

dray_jr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
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Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?

msespindola said:
Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
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idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.

If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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this is why i dont read on my phone i miss crap anyway if you flash 4.4.2 yes you can flash the 4.4 TWRP and then SuperSU with a unlocked bootloader.. sorry for my miss read thanks for the catch

dray_jr said:
idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Thx guys, I'll do this later, thx for the awesome responses
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app

dray_jr said:
idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.

NPOA556 said:
Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

Schaweet said:
My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.

NPOA556 said:
It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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What I've read is you need to go back to stock recovery and also make sure any /system files are unchanged. For example I renamed my old exchange apk's (in /system/app) when I put in the new ones from the nexus 5 on 4.4.2, so I would need to name those files back.

NPOA556 said:
It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

Schaweet said:
I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
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I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.

NPOA556 said:
I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
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Good questions. I'm not sure. We certainly root differently than a non Dev edition. They might have some files modified that we don't have to modify. Also, I wonder is going to stock recovery will unroot us.
I guess we wait and stay patient.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.

Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
The only hope you have is if someone decides to take that factory image and runnit through kitchen to make it a flashable zip. You will also need the updated modem from either 4.4 or 4.4.2 to prevent system settings from fc ing
This goes for any moto, retail and or developer edition
You may also attempt to flash the sbf firmware and remove the delete userdata from the XML but no guarantee that you will not have issues
Hope that helps
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

To take an ota you must be stock. Meaning everything. As long as you haven't flashed an updated bootloader you can just flash system.IMG and recovery.IMG from the sbf your phone is currently on you can take an ota. A successful ota does NOT require a data wipe.
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finalarcadia said:
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
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You cannot flash any of those through twrp! If you want to flash 4.4.2 you need to fastboot the system.IMG and boot.IMG and you will need to wipe your data. If you choose this route you will not be able to take the ota when its available you'd have to wait for the sbf file to be released and update through house of moto, rsd, or fastboot.

flashallthetime said:
Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
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some questions.. and comments...
I agree with #1. You must have STOCK recovery for an OTA to install properly. And #3, because the OTA generally has a file list with check sums to compare against what is on your device to make sure all required files are there and the correct version/size/etc before it will start to install.
#2 I have a question on as I've not had an issue with this unless the root process makes changes to system files (thus causing a problem for #3). I've lost root taking an OTA, but that is it.
Then again, I have a Dev X with unlocked bootloader, and I don't know enough about RockMyMoto, SlapMyMoto, etc was of rooting the X, except that initially they replaced the recovery partition with an image that when selected/booted allowed write to system, etc. This would cause issue with #1 (no longer have stock recovery on the recovery partition), but not sure what, if any system files get touched or altered from stock.
Finally, you mention clearing data being required... This would wipe you back to factory defaults and remove your apps/data. I don't believe its "required" but rather just suggested as it can make the device run smoother after the update is done.
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msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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Depends on how you rooted.
If you've downloaded the SBF file for the ROM on your device (if you don't have it, see if its available from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 ), you can unzip it, and fastboot flash the stock recovery from it onto your device, take the OTA, and then later fastboot flash TWRP back on and install SuperSU again to root.
This assumes you did NOT touch any system files the update will check for prior to running/installing. If you did touch system files, edit build prop, removed/renamed any APK's... then fastboot flash recovery and system before taking the OTA

[Q] Claro chile 4.4.2 update

I just got the 4.4.2 update from claro in chile. But I have not installed it yet. My phone is on 4.2.2 at the moment. The bootloader is unlocked. It is rooted using rockmymoto. What I want to know is what do I need to do to get it ready for the 4.4.2 upgrade? I assume I need to unroot it? Also I have lucky patcher installed and I odexed my system, will this be a problem? Will I be able to get root in 4.4.2?

AGISCI said:
I just got the 4.4.2 update from claro in chile. But I have not installed it yet. My phone is on 4.2.2 at the moment. The bootloader is unlocked. It is rooted using rockmymoto. What I want to know is what do I need to do to get it ready for the 4.4.2 upgrade? I assume I need to unroot it? Also I have lucky patcher installed and I odexed my system, will this be a problem? Will I be able to get root in 4.4.2?
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There are threads on this in the general folder as well as this folder.
What I don't understand is why you had to root using rockmymoto if your bootloader is unlocked? Why didn't you just flash a custom recovery like TWRP and install SuperSU to root?
Do you have the 4.2.2 post camera update installed?

Cozume said:
There are threads on this in the general folder as well as this folder.
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I have read various topics in both of the forums on it. But I wanted to be 100% sure of what path I need to follow to be sure I don't brick my phone. 1 thing that had me worried is that I odexed my system with lucky patcher... does this mean I am going to have to flash my firmware back to stock before I can do this?
Cozume said:
What I don't understand is why you had to root using rockmymoto if your bootloader is unlocked? Why didn't you just flash a custom recovery like TWRP and install SuperSU to root?
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Because I rooted it a month before I unlocked the bootloader.
I still currently have stock recovery though.
Cozume said:
Do you have the 4.2.2 post camera update installed?
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As far as the post camera update, not sure. My camera version is 3.1.41.2.

AGISCI said:
I have read various topics in both of the forums on it. But I wanted to be 100% sure of what path I need to follow to be sure I don't brick my phone. 1 thing that had me worried is that I odexed my system with lucky patcher... does this mean I am going to have to flash my firmware back to stock before I can do this?
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That is certainly the safest way to go from all I have read as any system mods could potentially cause a problem. The problem that another poster here had is that the only firmware that is posted for the Claro Chile is the precamera update. He was looking for the postcamera firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649806
And no one could help him find it. I don't think you can take the OTA if you are on the precamera firmware. Perhaps you can PM the OP in that link and see if he is knowledgeable about Claro chile firmware.

Cozume said:
That is certainly the safest way to go from all I have read as any system mods could potentially cause a problem. The problem that another poster here had is that the only firmware that is posted for the Claro Chile is the precamera update. He was looking for the postcamera firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649806
And no one could help him find it. I don't think you can take the OTA if you are on the precamera firmware. Perhaps you can PM the OP in that link and see if he is knowledgeable about Claro chile firmware.
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How can I tell if I am on the pre cam or post cam? Also is there a link that talks about what teh pre cam and post cam does or changed?

AGISCI said:
How can I tell if I am on the pre cam or post cam? Also is there a link that talks about what teh pre cam and post cam does or changed?
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Go to Settings->About Phone->System Version. What does it say?

139.12.35.ghost_row.AmericaMovil.en.CL
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AGISCI said:
139.12.35.ghost_row.AmericaMovil.en.CL
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From the version numbers here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
As best I can tell 139.12.35 is the post camera update. The problem is that no one has a copy of the stock firmware posted anywhere that anyone can find.

If that's the case flashing this firmware will not brick me then correct?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

You say you rooted the phone a month before you unlocked the bootloader. If this is the case then your phone should have been wiped clean as unlocking the bootloader performs a full wipe of the phone.
So something does not add up/make sense.

Steve-x said:
You say you rooted the phone a month before you unlocked the bootloader. If this is the case then your phone should have been wiped clean as unlocking the bootloader performs a full wipe of the phone.
So something does not add up/make sense.
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I rooted it twice actually. After I unlocked the bootloader it was erased just like you said, and I rooted again using the same method from the first time.

AGISCI said:
If that's the case flashing this firmware will not brick me then correct?
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Which firmware?
This is from dray_jr on the thread in the Moto X General forum:
the only OTA that can downgrade is 4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam
here is what we know right now that might make more sense
4.4 to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick
4.2.2 Post Cam to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick.
4.4.2 to anything will Brick
4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam you are ok
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366&highlight=brick&page=5

You are in quite a unique situation here actually... since there is no stock image that you can go back to. If there was a 4.4 SBF I would have suggested to flash then take the 4.4.2 update. However, it seems as if there was no 4.4 roll out/update for your carrier at all. So this 4.4.2 carrier update would be more than a simple patch from 4.4 to 4.4.2, it would probably end up removing root since you are going from JB to KK.
Your best bet if you want it now is to do the following...
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS OR BRICKING YOUR DEVICE
1) Did you make a backup before you messed with anything in the system? If you didn't, then you have to go through the manual process of making sure that it is as clean as a normal stock image.
2) Do you have the original recovery? If not, find a recovery file for your carrier and flash that.
3) Attempt to flash the OTA in the standard recovery.
But honestly, the safest thing to do is to wait until your 4.4.2 SBF is released, that way you can flash it in RSD Lite, preventing a brick as much as possible.

mastarifla said:
But honestly, the safest thing to do is to wait until your 4.4.2 SBF is released, that way you can flash it in RSD Lite, preventing a brick as much as possible.
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Who releases the sbf? Motorola? Because it looks like the problem is that no one can find the sbf for the 4.2.2 postcamera update for their carrier.

I guess I will have to wait then. I can't afford to brick my phone. I captured the update and pulled it with adb so if anyone needs it I will be able to upload it.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Cozume said:
Who releases the sbf? Motorola? Because it looks like the problem is that no one can find the sbf for the 4.2.2 postcamera update for their carrier.
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Skrilax_CZ maintains the website where the SBF's are stored. Motorola only releases the Developer Edition images to the public, as far as I know. So I believe that this website hosts either his own custom made zips, or he has someone supplying him with insider Moto images (or he works there?).
Personally I think he has a tool to automate this process once he has the firmware loaded onto the phone (if he doesn't have the images already), basically he is adb copying files from the dev partition of his phone and compiling a MD5 hash for each file, then zipping it all up in a nice package to flash with the insider Moto tool RSD Lite (or using manual flash, if you like to live dangerously )

mastarifla said:
Skrilax_CZ maintains the website where the SBF's are stored, as far as I know, Motorola only releases the Dev edition images to the public. So I believe that this website hosts either his own custom made zips, or he has someone supplying him with insider Moto images (or he works there?).
Personally I think he a tool to automate this process once he has the firmware loaded onto the phone (if he doesn't have the images already), basically he is adb copying files from the dev partition of his phone and compiling a MD5 hash for each file, then zipping it all up in a nice package to flash with the insider Moto tool RSD Lite.
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Thanks! So if you know someone with a stock phone who has never modded or rooted, theoretically you could pull the files from the dev partition of their phone? The trick is getting it into a package that works with RSD Lite?
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mastarifla said:
Motorola only releases the Developer Edition images to the public, as far as I know.
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So those of us with Dev Eds should stick to flashing the factory images we get from Motorola directly?

Cozume said:
Thanks! So if you know someone with a stock phone who has never modded or rooted, theoretically you could pull the files from the dev partition of their phone? The trick is getting it into a package that works with RSD Lite?
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So those of us with Dev Eds should stick to flashing the factory images we get from Motorola directly?
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Theoretically yes, but in practice it is much harder. Every manufacturer stores their particular data in different partitions on the phone. You have to manually look through the bin files (with a hex editor) in order to determine which are the correct ones. This is even more difficult because most of the information is encrypted. So unless you have insider knowledge or want to compare values in a hex editor, I would strongly suggest you stay away from attempting to make your own files, it can lead to very easy bricks.
I have a XT1053 Unlocked GSM phone (T-Mobile), and the SBF T-Mobile firmwares are the only thing I am going to be flashing, don't flash other regions firmware unless you are certain that it works. IE. let everyone else try it and potentially brick their phone before you end up doing the same thing.
Oh and before I forget, hitting the thanks button works too by the way

mastarifla said:
Theoretically yes, but in practice it is much harder. Every manufacturer stores their particular data in different partitions on the phone. You have to manually look through the bin files (with a hex editor) in order to determine which are the correct ones. This is even more difficult because most of the information is encrypted. So unless you have insider knowledge or want to compare values in a hex editor, I would strongly suggest you stay away from attempting to make your own files, it can lead to very easy bricks.
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no, I would never try it; I am just trying to understand what the differences are between the various ways for me to brick my device, lol!
mastarifla said:
I have a XT1053 Unlocked GSM phone (T-Mobile), and the SBF T-Mobile firmwares are the only thing I am going to be flashing, don't flash other regions firmware unless you are certain that it works. IE. let everyone else try it and potentially brick their phone before you end up doing the same thing.
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but if I have a Dev Ed, shouldn't I be flashing the factory images I received from Motorola?
mastarifla said:
Oh and before I forget, hitting the thanks button works too by the way
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I know I tried but they limit you to 8 thanks a day and I already used mine up for today! I will come back tomorrow and hit the button, promise. I am very good about that. So good that I use up all my thanks quickly. So odd they do that here, but they do.

Cozume said:
but if I have a Dev Ed, shouldn't I be flashing the factory images I received from Motorola?
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Yes you should, however it is widely known that the T-Mobile version and the Developer Edition have the exact same hardware/firmware (XT1053), actually I think they may have the exact same software build as well, though I am not sure on that one... if they receive the same OTA update that the T-Mobile version receives, that leads me to believe its the same ROM.

moto x not-so-dev edition, what is RSDlite trick?

I simply want to allow my phone to accept any gpt.bin.
i honestly do not care about what it thinks about "downgraded security version".
Is there anyway to do that with a plain fastboot client/interface?
what does RSD does for work around that?
thank you!

sigh... it does not F*** allow it, but DO screw up something.
now regular boot just gives me a black screen. while 'factory' and 'bp tools' boot just fine to my fully working system rom (stock 4.4.3)

What exactly have you had in your device, flashed, etc...And what you are trying to accomplish.
Need some more details.
And the reason security is set up like that is cause downgrading the Moto X can easily brick your device. Many members have bricked trying to downgrade, or after managing to downgrade...have bricked later.
Without the errors, this section would be overflowing with brick threads. ?

KJ said:
What exactly have you had in your device, flashed, etc...And what you are trying to accomplish.
Need some more details.
And the reason security is set up like that is cause downgrading the Moto X can easily brick your device. Many members have bricked trying to downgrade, or after managing to downgrade...have bricked later.
Without the errors, this section would be overflowing with brick threads. ?
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fair point. Though i'm still amazed how phone manufacturers manage to get a device bricked by installing software... oh well.
so, my phone history is:
bought moto x dev.
received 4.4.3 OTA update over the 4.4.2 that shipped with it.
flashed twrp because i like image backups and to be able to do minimally required things like ssh tunels and firewall.
and that is pretty much it. i think at some point i used gravitybox when i had 4.4.2 to see what it was about and then reflashed the factory image on top.
So now i wanted to do 2 things.
1. flash the 4.4.4 OTA to see what it is like.
2. if 4.4.4 stock was not decent, i will probably flash a 4.4.2 or whatever the latest CM is for that phone.
edit: ok, forgot to be specific. i'm at step 1 of option 1 still. which is flash 4.4.2 (latest version on the lame motorola stock image repo) and then acept the 4.4.4 OTA. but the stock 4.4.2 gpt.bin triggers that warning.

You can't flash back to 4.4.2. That could/will brick you. And definitely would brick you if you did manage to flash 4.4.2 and then took an ota.
Again, the most talked about subject , next to bootloader unlocking, in the X section.

KJ said:
You can't flash back to 4.4.2. That could/will brick you. And definitely would brick you if you did manage to flash 4.4.2 and then took an ota.
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You can return to a 4.4.2 nandroid after taking the 4.4.4 OTA if your bootloader is unlocked. I just did it last night.
My story:
1) Unlocked bootloader and rooted with TWRP/SuperSU on 4.4.2;
2) Made a 4.4.2 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
3) Returned to stock 4.4.2 and took the 4.4.4 OTA;
4) Made a 4.4.4 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
5) Inadvertently wiped System partition and Internal Storage;
6) Flashed 4.4.4 system.img from the SBF using mfastboot while in bootloader mode to return to 4.4.4 system;
7) Restored phone to 4.4.2 using TWRP and my 4.4.2 nandroid.
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gcbxda said:
sigh... it does not F*** allow it, but DO screw up something.
now regular boot just gives me a black screen. while 'factory' and 'bp tools' boot just fine to my fully working system rom (stock 4.4.3)
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I am unclear on what you did to get to this point.

Wansanta said:
You can return to a 4.4.2 nandroid after taking the 4.4.4 OTA if your bootloader is unlocked. I just did it last night.
My story:
1) Unlocked bootloader and rooted with TWRP/SuperSU on 4.4.2;
2) Made a 4.4.2 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
3) Returned to stock 4.4.2 and took the 4.4.4 OTA;
4) Made a 4.4.4 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
5) Inadvertently wiped System partition and Internal Storage;
6) Flashed 4.4.4 system.img from the SBF using mfastboot while in bootloader mode to return to 4.4.4 system;
7) Restored phone to 4.4.2 using TWRP and my 4.4.2 nandroid.
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I am unclear on what you did to get to this point.
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Ok, but one problem. If you take an ota to a new version now it WILL brick. So you are now stuck on 4.4.2. That is the problem with downgrading.
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AGISCI said:
Ok, but one problem. If you take an ota to a new version now it WILL brick. So you are now stuck on 4.4.2. That is the problem with downgrading.
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Not true - I can restore back to my 4.4.4 nandroid. I have done it 3 times so far trying to debug the problem with my text messages being restored. I can go back and forth b/t my 4.4.2 nandroid and my 4.4.4 nandroid with no problems.

Wansanta said:
Not true - I can restore back to my 4.4.4 nandroid. I have done it 3 times so far trying to debug the problem with my text messages being restored. I can go back and forth b/t my 4.4.2 nandroid and my 4.4.4 nandroid with no problems.
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NOT THE SAME AS FIRMWARE!!
Firmware contains the bootloader, not so with a nandroid
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A nandroid can be flashed down NO PROBLEMO.

aviwdoowks said:
NOT THE SAME AS FIRMWARE!!
Firmware contains the bootloader, not so with a nandroid
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First, he said I was stuck on 4.4.2, and that is what I was responding to. I am not stuck on 4.4.2 - I can go back and forth b/t 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 using my nandroids.
Second, for the record after I took the OTA I had to flash the 4.4.4 system.img from the 4.4.4 sbf b/c I inadvertently wiped my system partition. I tried using RSDLite but it would not recognize my device. When I was in bootloader mode, adb would not recognize my device either. But I was able to use mfastboot to flash the 4.4.4 system.img. After flashing the 4.4.4 system.img from the sbf, I was able to restore back to 4.4.2 system using my nandroid.
So you can selectively flash the sbf files to return to a previous version of android - you don't have to flash the bootloader. My bootloader is 30:B7 and you CAN run 4.4.2 system after you have upgraded to the 4.4.4 bootloader IF you are unlocked and rooted. I don't know what happens if you are not.

if when you flash an image you pretty much re-partition the whole flash memory (gpt), install the bootloader and system... what exactly 'bricks' the phone with downgrade/upgrade?

gcbxda said:
if when you flash an image you pretty much re-partition the whole flash memory (gpt), install the bootloader and system... what exactly 'bricks' the phone with downgrade/upgrade?
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See links in my next post.

gcbxda said:
if when you flash an image you pretty much re-partition the whole flash memory (gpt), install the bootloader and system... what exactly 'bricks' the phone with downgrade/upgrade?
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These links explain it better than I did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50734236&postcount=29
Q9Nap said:
gpt is the partition table that contains, among other things, the security versions for all other partitions. motoboot contains the various bootloader parts and also contains the security version for gpt that is checked on every boot.
they really only affect locked devices in that they prevent a locked device from being able to downgrade.
although they are not revertible once upgraded, they really don't affect unlocked devices because having the bootloader unlocked allows flashing whatever you want.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49990727&postcount=33
Q9Nap said:
Gpt is the partition table. It contains security version for the other partitions and prevents downgrading on locked devices. It has a security version itself which is checked at boot. Once it is upgraded, it can't be reverted, but isn't really necessary on unlocked devices since the boot loader will allow flashing anything.
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I believe in this link where Q9Nap says partition, he means partition table:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50734615&postcount=31
Q9Nap said:
yes security version is usually updated with newer builds, but not always. i don't know what moto uses for criteria to determine whether to increase it or not, i don't work for moto.
attempting to flash a lower security version partition will not brick, it will fail to flash, giving the "failed preflash validation" error message.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50721154&postcount=21
Q9Nap said:
it is almost impossible to permanently brick an unlocked device. pretty much the only way you could would be to flash an erroneous file to the bootloader partition, preventing the ability to access the bootloader menu.
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If you want to go back to 4.4.2, just flash the 4.4.2 boot.img and system.img from the 4.4.2 fxz; it will work fine with the updated bootloader and radio.

Q9Nap said:
If you want to go back to 4.4.2, just flash the 4.4.2 boot.img and system.img from the 4.4.2 fxz; it will work fine with the updated bootloader and radio.
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The op in this thread wants to be able to flash any gpt.bin he wants to. He is being told by others if he does that he will brick. I was quoting you b/c he asked why it would brick and I was showing him that it won't brick, it will just fail and also some of your quotes explain why it will fail. You said it better than I could so I quoted you. Sorry if it was confusing for me to quote you from other threads in this thread.
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gcbxda said:
sigh... it does not F*** allow it, but DO screw up something.
now regular boot just gives me a black screen. while 'factory' and 'bp tools' boot just fine to my fully working system rom (stock 4.4.3)
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This is another one of @Q9Nap quotes:
with the system booted to a blank screen, press and hold the power button until you see the screen flicker, about 10 seconds.
as soon as it does, quickly release power button, press and hold volume down and then press and hold power.
hold both volume down and power for a few seconds, then release.
you should be in bootloader menu.
it might take a few tries, but you will get it.

Wansanta said:
The op in this thread wants to be able to flash any gpt.bin he wants to. He is being told by others if he does that he will brick. I was quoting you b/c he asked why it would brick and I was showing him that it won't brick, it will just fail and also some of your quotes explain why it will fail. You said it better than I could so I quoted you. Sorry if it was confusing for me to quote you from other threads in this thread.
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yeah it won't brick, it will just fail to flash.
as long as you can access fastboot mode, you're not totally bricked.

Q9Nap said:
yeah it won't brick, it will just fail to flash.
as long as you can access fastboot mode, you're not totally bricked.
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It did mess something up for him b/c now a regular boot gives him a blank screen. So I just posted your instructions on how to get from the blank screen to bootloader mode.

Wansanta said:
It did mess something up for him b/c now a regular boot gives him a blank screen. So I just posted your instructions on how to get from the blank screen to bootloader mode.
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you have to flash boot.img and system.img from the same version.
in addition, you should wipe cache and dalvik-cache.
if there are still issues, you should wipe data also.

THanks a lot for all the info! much apreciated. I think i'm still confused by the horrible reuse of terms all around android history.
When you say boot nowadays, do you mean the fastboot firmware? i wasn't able to flash it some time ago... granted, i'm a fossil on android knowledge nowadays.
Q9Nap said:
you have to flash boot.img and system.img from the same version.
in addition, you should wipe cache and dalvik-cache.
if there are still issues, you should wipe data also.
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THis is my problem. "from the same version".
phone is on 4.4.3.
lousy motorola only provides dev phone images to 4.4.2 (and 4.2.2). even though they distributed 4.4.3 for ages and now are roling out 4.4.4
There is nothing from the same version i can flash. specially if i want to try the OTA 4.4.4

gcbxda said:
THanks a lot for all the info! much apreciated. I think i'm still confused by the horrible reuse of terms all around android history.
When you say boot nowadays, do you mean the fastboot firmware? i wasn't able to flash it some time ago... granted, i'm a fossil on android knowledge nowadays.
THis is my problem. "from the same version".
phone is on 4.4.3.
lousy motorola only provides dev phone images to 4.4.2 (and 4.2.2). even though they distributed 4.4.3 for ages and now are roling out 4.4.4
There is nothing from the same version i can flash. specially if i want to try the OTA 4.4.4
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I don't think you mentioned what carrier you're using.
Moto sux at updating their fxz files, that's why there is firmware team:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
WARNING! shameless plug forthcoming....
Also feel free to try my Google Play edition fxz:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/fxz-xt1053-xt1060-google-play-edition-4-t2715488

[Q] Go from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 Unlocked, rooted, twrp

I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks

dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
If all you want to do is update, you could install Custom ROM although you will lose Motorola's Active Display, Always Listening etc...
If you want complete stock and have to reflash TWRP and root your phone, you will need to flash the stock firmware using fastboot or a utility.

Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.

Alecegonce101 said:
Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
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Um, all VZW Moto Xs are SIM-unlocked.

dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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I hope it wasn't the pre-camera 4.2.2....or you might be in a tough spot now.... Risking a brick. ?
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Unless the first firmware was also pre camera... Then you're OK.

dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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Taking OTA's is incremental, so if you are the initial shipping 4.2.2 you need to take the first 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, then the 4.4 OTA, then the 4.4.2 OTA... a real time waster and pain in the rear.
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
Since you have a Dev Edition, why not just go to 4.4.4? it has a few bug fixes, and is stable. For me and many others its no worse than 4.4.2 as far as performance and battery.
Once you arrive on the ROM you want, you can flash TWRP and root.

KidJoe said:
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
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OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??

dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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Yup! ?
As long as it's not a lower version.

dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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OTA = Incremental. Only patches the changed/updated parts.
SBF/FXZ = "all inclusive" or "image files".. and overwrites entire partitions/parts.
So yes. You can just flash the newer SBF file. (As @Darth said... as long as the SBF you are flashing is NEWER than the version on your phone... i.e. NEVER DOWNGRADE)

Where can I get the Moto X (2013) stock firmware files? [Republic Wireless]

I keep seeing a link to sbf.droid-developers.rog for stock Moto X firmware files. It appears that site is no longer maintained. Is there any other resource for stock firmwares out there?
I'm currently on rooted 4.4.2 (Moto X 2013) and was hoping to use Sunshine to unlock my bootloader, return to stock, take the new Republic 5.1 OTA that's due out soon, and root from there with an unlocked bootloader.

I believe if you upgrade any further then you currently are (EG: Android 4.4.4 or higher), you will not be able to root and unlock your Republic Wireless phone...

Hey
Apparently am not able to send outside links so look for the stock firmware in yandex. Hope you understand

BSnapp said:
I believe if you upgrade any further then you currently are (EG: Android 4.4.4 or higher), you will not be able to root and unlock your Republic Wireless phone...
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I was able to use Sunshine to unlock my bootloader at 4.4.2. Then I was able to upgrade to 4.4.4 and ultimately to 5.1 and get root due to the unlocked bootloader.
Kingathia said:
Apparently am not able to send outside links so look for the stock firmware in yandex. Hope you understand
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I managed to find 4.4.2 here: filefactory.com/file/6rarzwf3okj3/ghost_repw-user-4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.24-1.12-12-release-keys-cid6.xml.zip

News: the Republic Wireless 5.1 SBF is out on File Factory. Here's the link: http://www.filefactory.com/file/27kl2ef9ngk7/XT1049_GHOST_REPW_5.1_LPA23.12-39-R-15_cid6_CFC.xml.zip

Nicene Nerd said:
News: the Republic Wireless 5.1 SBF is out on File Factory.
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Fantastic! Thanks for the link. I ran a bit of a risk rooting on 5.1 without a backup stock rom. Glad to know I don't have to worry about it now.

parody24 said:
Fantastic! Thanks for the link. I ran a bit of a risk rooting on 5.1 without a backup stock rom. Glad to know I don't have to worry about it now.
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if it makes you feel better, I have an unlocked bootloader and I used the file above yesterday (using the instructions on here to restore to stock, editing the xml file, etc). worked fine! I was nervous too, after taking the 5.1 RW update, rooting, and messing something up myself with an older xposed version (I was NOT paying attention. LOL). All better! Nice to have that file handy now!

I was just able to take the EMR update first through system update OTA. Now it won't give me the 5.1 OTA. I currently have stock recovery, no root, with no system mods. I tried manually installing the 5.1 OTA but it doesn't work. It says it was aborted because the package expected a different build fingerprint. But I'm on 212.154.2.ghost_row.RepublicWireless.en.US Any suggestions for getting the OTA to work, or do I have to get root and TWRP back and flash the 5.1 SBF? If so, is the 894.64 MB zip from file factory for sure the one I need for Republic Wireless? I just don't want to brick my phone. Thanks!
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I was doing some research and I think I forgot 1 step to make sure I'm 100% back to stock. I made no system mods and I did flash stock recovery, but I forgot about the boot image I was using so I wasn't seeing the bootloader unlocked message. Would that make the manual OTA fail/abort and/or also make system update not recognize 5.1 is needed? I'm guessing it does. So I'll try getting TWRP back and flashing the correct stock boot image for 4.4.4, then remove root/TWRP again and see if it will take the OTA, either from system update or manual OTA. Hopefully this works, or at least reminds others to take this step if necessary. Thanks for any feedback!

PackerDroid said:
I was just able to take the EMR update first through system update OTA. Now it won't give me the 5.1 OTA. I currently have stock recovery, no root, with no system mods. I tried manually installing the 5.1 OTA but it doesn't work. It says it was aborted because the package expected a different build fingerprint. But I'm on 212.154.2.ghost_row.RepublicWireless.en.US Any suggestions for getting the OTA to work, or do I have to get root and TWRP back and flash the 5.1 SBF? If so, is the 894.64 MB zip from file factory for sure the one I need for Republic Wireless? I just don't want to brick my phone. Thanks!
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I was doing some research and I think I forgot 1 step to make sure I'm 100% back to stock. I made no system mods and I did flash stock recovery, but I forgot about the boot image I was using so I wasn't seeing the bootloader unlocked message. Would that make the manual OTA fail/abort and/or also make system update not recognize 5.1 is needed? I'm guessing it does. So I'll try getting TWRP back and flashing the correct stock boot image for 4.4.4, then remove root/TWRP again and see if it will take the OTA, either from system update or manual OTA. Hopefully this works, or at least reminds others to take this step if necessary. Thanks for any feedback!
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Are you installing the full 5.1 recovery or are you trying to flash just the OTA? The OTA file itself is just a diff not the full recovery. The file linked above should be the full system.

I'm trying to get the OTA to work first. If I can't, then I'll use the full SBF. I've already returned to stock recovery. I just wanted to check to make sure someone has used the full SBF that is posted and that there are no issues with it. Thanks!