Looking at leaving Verizon. Old threads have said the att/Cricket sim can be used in the Turbo with the realization of some missing lte bands. My questions are... are the missing bands used in rural areas (MN), should I sell the Turbo for a MAXX, or should I sell the Turbo and get something else? I realize the benefit of the MAXX is unlocked bootloader. I have to buy out my edge plan so I am spending money anyway, but the cost savings per month will make up for it in no time. I need it to function the best in rural. If I am missing optimum speed while in metro areas that is no big deal, don't spend a lot of time there anyways.
I live in a rural area in Maine, and I get LTE sometimes, but it's extremely spotty. I have Straight Talk, but with AT&T service. I miss LTE sometimes, but HSPA+ is plenty fast enough for the things I usually do on mobile web. It's all about personal preference. Yes the MAXX can be bootloader unlocked, and I believe it does support the bands that are disabled on the Turbo, so that may be the better route to take.
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AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. Mostly 2, 4, 17 -- but 5 in a few markets.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17.
Droid Turbo XT1254 does not have 5 or 17.
In Atlanta, AT&T uses mostly 2 & 17. In rural northwest Georgia, 4.
I'm in Boston this weekend. Here I'm connecting on 2 & 17.
With Droid Turbo, you would not get half of AT&T's LTE bands, especially 17 which is used in a lot of markets.
I'm using GoPhone, AT&T's upper tier prepaid brand (uncapped speeds).
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I'm in Boston right now, but the server location was in New York city.
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Hi, I didn't post this in the g2x forum as I thought I wouldn't find anyone interested.
Im in the uk, u should kno me .
Anyway I got the lg optimus 2x from america which offered 4g. I thought uk didn't have 4g but look at this
I'm on orange
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4G stands for HSDPA+
Many Operator in Europe (T-Mobile DE, Vodafone IT) support HSDPA+ with >21Mbit.
HabeHandy said:
4G stands for HSDPA+
Many Operator in Europe (T-Mobile DE, Vodafone IT) support HSDPA+ with >21Mbit.
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True but not exactly, because after December 2010 (ITU changed specs a little), LTE and WiMAX can also be referred to as 4G technology even though it does not meet speed requirements of 4G, that is really confusing since in e.g. USA 4G can mean WiMAX...
With ITU (telecommunication standardising body) it's all about the peak transfer capability if technology can reach certain threshold it gets the 4G tag...
This is a bit illogical since e.g HSDPA+ is not that much technologically different from standard 3G family derivatives as it is from "newer" LTE, or WiMAX ... long live confusion.
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Um. Being a dev I still only got that bit :L
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the BBC reported today there is going to be LTE testing in selected areas
the gsm 4g in states is HSPA+ or whatever is called . And the G2x or O2X has i think QUAD bands wcdma , so i think that is why you see 4g . The H was replaced by 4G. In states 4g is just for marketing. A real 4g i can say is the LTE from Verizon , but WIMAX , and HSPA are no 4g in my opinion .
See this thread for some historical perspective. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338028
T_Mobile is indeed refarming their spectrum and putting 4G on 1900Mhz. This has been completed in some larger markets.
Screen shot taken today in Las Vegas NV using SIM unlocked Vivid, WC custom rom, T-Mobile SIM on $30/month prepaid unlimited data plan.
Edit May 16. Just read somewhere else that LTE had previously been launched in Las Vegas. My original thought here was that I was hooked up to 1900mhz 4g and for whatever reason the LTE icon was displayed. Now I can't say for sure if it was 1900mhz HSPA+ or was actually T-Mobile's new AWS LTE.
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I read the linked post, but have yet not found info on How I can do a sim/carrier unlock to duplicate your scenario with a Vivid?
Physically, you obtain an unlock code, put a non at&t sim in the sim holder and enter the code when the phone prompts.
AT&T won't supply an unlock code until your contract period has expired. Other conditions also apply. There are third party services that get the unlock codes directly from the cell phone manufacturing companies. There is a thread in the Vivid forum with a link to unlock for free. I found that service offline when I needed it so I went with www.freeunlocks.com - there are a lot of places out there. Virtually all charge a small fee. Find the one you are able to use and "trust".
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I read the linked post, but have yet not found info on How I can do a sim/carrier unlock to duplicate your scenario with a Vivid?
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I'm from the suburbs of Chicago, using Wal-Mart's Family Mobile plan, which is T-Mobile service. Just ran this speed test. We are indeed receiving HSPA+ speeds, not sure if its 850mhz or 1900mhz, but definitely getting GREAT speeds considering its only quad band
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i want to know if this Motorola X developer will work with att?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-MO...1144549540?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2ed52640a4
I hope someone can help me out here.
Yes, but don't count on getting an LTE data connection. Voice and HSPA should work fine.
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i want to know if this Motorola X developer will work with att?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-MO...1144549540?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2ed52640a4
I hope someone can help me out here.
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The GSM Dev Edition and GSM Unlocked (shps with T-Mobile or Net10 sim) are both the XT1053, and will work on ATT just fine.
Keep in mind the XT1053 is missing support for LTE Band 5, which ATT is now using in some areas. So if that is the only band ATT is using for LTE in your area you wont get LTE with the XT1053, but you will fall back to Hspa/Hspa+
The XT1053 is also missing support for LTE band 7 which supposedly isn't being used in the USA.
That being said, my sister-in-law is using a GSM Unlocked (XT1053) in south eastern PA on ATT just fine for everything, including LTE.
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The GSM Dev Edition and GSM Unlocked (shps with T-Mobile or Net10 sim) are both the XT1053, and will work on ATT just fine.
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While your info is relevant, the phone linked in the OP is the VZW Dev editon. @blackviper71 's post was correct regarding that device. Moot-point though, because the device is already sold.
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While your info is relevant, the phone linked in the OP is the VZW Dev editon. @blackviper71 's post was correct regarding that device. Moot-point though, because the device is already sold.
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Yeah, I guess I didn't look close enough at the picture in the auction.
First off I'm in the GTA of Southern Ontario. I've used/tested tons of phones from the Captivate up to the Note4 on different carriers from London to Ottawa.
I've done posts before too but like to see the change over time and I have to admit the major carriers here have expanded quite well over the past few years and the performance has been incredible.
As well, it is true that the phone itself and it's hardware really affects what kind of DL speeds you will get.
I'm mostly on Rogers in the Toronto area and have got some amazing speeds (on certain towers). There really is a massive difference from area to area and tower to tower.
I could give you the top ten towers that easily get over 100+ mbps and probably would do 250+ once the carriers activate the latest cat6 LTE.
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So post some of your experiences and screenshots of speed tests. What carrier and general area if wanted. I use apps that tell me the exact tower I'm connected to. Your signal level too if wanted.
All of my crazy high tests are (obviously full signal bar connection) but I check actual number level and try to be between - 60 and - 77 dBm. Keep in mind most phones hit 4 bars at - 85 (lower the better.. - 50 being perfect) although the Note 4 uses a slightly different scale.
Here are a few tests I did recently on a couple (really good) towers around me.
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FYI.. I find the Ookla Speedtest.net app is the best but keep in mind that top performance changes from server to server and time of day.. As well, be aware that when blazing over 100+ mbps you will use up 115+ mB's per test!
Here are the better more consistent servers I use for top tests.
For Toronto - Start and Nexicom seem to be best.
Montreal has several good ones but Fibrenoire is typically amazing.
Speedtest.net in Washington used to be poor.. Strange as it's their testing app and would figure it would be tops but now is much better. I can get 100+ often.
Georgian college in Barrie is usually good as is TowerStream in New York.
Bell/North Bay, Lightspeed/Canton, TimeWarner/Syracuse and University of Flint all can go 100+ too but are sometimes much lower at points during the day.
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The three devices designed by the Motorola using Qualcomm APQ8084 +MDM9625 platform seems shared some many design.In the /fsg partition quark share the same firmware of nexus 6,
so according to the partial RFNV already exist in XT1254,just get a filtered NV items patch to the Band 17,seems like Band 5 and WCDMA AWS either possible to do same job,but without the XT1225's calibrated QCN file,it's hard to do that.
Based on the success of using China Telecom Band 1 IMT-2100 FDD-LTE while the XT1254 just used the Nexus 6 XT1103's Band 1 RFNV patch made by Azlun,I think it's possible to using some bands that hardware DESIGNED but not CALIBRATED bands.
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Here is a guide for the operation writen by Azlun, QPST is provided over internet, specific patch file in the attach files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-enable-nexus6-xt1103-4g-lte-t3042373
Using LTE Discovery to find the Band you are using
UPDATE:QCN add NV06828 LTE_BC_CONFIG
sorry to bring this up from the dead but can anyone confirm this works to pickup band 17 on att? im thinking of picking one up used and just want to confirm it does.
I can confirm, the patch is working. My phone was able to pick up AT&T band 17. I need to do more testing as band 17 signal is pretty low in my area. I can get nice band 2 signal here. See attachment.
What would be the benefit of applying this patch? Is there anything special about band 17?
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What would be the benefit of applying this patch? Is there anything special about band 17?
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For people who use AT&T and not Verizon. ATT's bands are 2, 4, 5, 17.
17 is used a lot on AT&T. If you can't pick up LTE band 17, you will drop to HSPA. While all the Quarks share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, the Droid Turbo XT1254 does not have LTE band 17 which is important for AT&T.
That's why I own the Moto XT1225, which has ALL of AT&T's LTE bands.
On LTE Discovery, on my phone over the past two years:
Band 2: 186 instances
[*]Band 4: 25 instances
[*]Band 5: 14 instances
[*]Band 17: 187 instances
Even for people selling their Droid Turbo, it would make it more valuable. Even if it can't pick up LTE band 5 (which is not used that much), having LTE band 17 makes it worth more money to people who use AT&T.
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The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17.
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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