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So, a little history...
I'm on my 2nd Captivate (unrelated issue). The boot problems didn't arise until I restored my data onto it. The first time I tried restoring system data along with my apps (which I figured was safe since I was going from 2.1 stock to the same) but that had lots of issues. So I did a factory reset, and started over. This time I just restored apps and their data, and a few specific pieces of system data (contacts, wifi APs, etc). That worked better. But later I got too aggressive with what system apps I "froze" (using Titanium Backup), and it got into boot loops I couldn't break out of. So I did another factory reset.
This time, first I carefully froze only apps I was to confirm were safe to freeze. I didn't proceed restoring my apps until I was done freezing and ensured it was booting fine. I then restored all my apps (and their data). The problem is now that it takes forever to boot... in fact, it'll go into a boot loop if I just leave it be. It seems the only way I can gain access is to try and unlock it before it's done booting, clear any "Force close" errors (sometimes takes a few tries) and given enough attempts, I can get in. But the boot takes an unbelievable amount of time, and even with my original apps is many times longer than before on my previous Captivate. Once I fuss my way in, it seems mostly fine, but something is obviously wrong and I want to get it straightened out.
Aside from doing another factory reset, and reinstalling all my apps (which takes like a day without troubleshooting after each, since batch restores in TB don't seem to work well on the Captivate so I have to do them one by one), I'm hoping there's a way to troubleshoot it in its current state and try to fix the problem surgically versus erasing and starting over. I looked at the logcat logs but got in over my head... there are so many errors and warnings and I don't know what's normal and what isn't... too many to know where to begin with searching Google.
So... advice? What tools are available? Even the logcat doesn't seem to kick in until the boot is mostly done, so I'm not sure if it can catch the problem while it's happening. One frustrating thing about Android is that is seems to have no "safe mode" or other diagnostic boot or full logging where you can methodically look at what's happening and experiment with the config. If this was a Windows, Linux or FreeBSD box I'd be in my element and able to get to the bottom of this, but on Android I feel even more crippled, locked-out and helpless than even on Windows. Urgh.
There's got to be a better way to troubleshoot and fix than endless random factory resets. This is something us anti-Windows people scold PC makers for, with all their use of "Restore CDs" for every minor and trivial software issue.
Thanks!
I can't help but think you are still disabling some essential system apps. Either that or one of your apps is causing major problems. Please list what you have frozen in tibu. Btw, the batch function works fine and is what most people on here use.
Also, what is force closing after you restore your apps.
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I can't help but think you are still disabling some essential system apps. Either that or one of your apps is causing major problems. Please list what you have frozen in tibu. Btw, the batch function works fine and is what most people on here use.
Also, what is force closing after you restore your apps.
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First of all, thanks for taking a stab at this.
My frozen apps are:
* AllShare
* AT&T FamilyMap
* AT&T Hot Spots
* AT&T Maps
* AT&T Music
* AT&T Navigator
* AT&T Radio
* Daily Briefing
* Days
* Instant Messaging
* Media Hub
* Mini Diary
* Mobile Banking
* Mobile Video
* MobiTV
* Where
* Write and Go
* YPmobile
I also tried removing my MicroSD card, as well as switching back to Touchwiz (from LauncherPro). Didn't help.
Yeah the batch problem in TB is very frustrating. I'm using the pay/donate version so I'm missing out on a feature I paid for. I've been exchanging emails with Joel (the author) and we haven't figured it out yet. Batch backups work fine. Batch uninstalls also work fine (update: phone just spontaneously rebooted after about 50 or so uninstalls in a batch). It's the batch restores that seem to choke it. It's not corrupt backup files... a verify runs fine, and I can individually restore the same handful of apps one by one that will choke and hang/reboot the Captivate if attempted to restore in a batch.
The FC error I get is on boot-up, as I try to unlock the screen prior to the boot finishing. I often see "Process system is not responding".
I have aLogcat installed, if that's any use. A few questions about that:
- What's the best logging level to view on? In other words, do I care about "Warnings"?
- What errors are common, harmless, and safe to ignore?
Currently I've tried uninstalling everything down to just a few core apps. Certainly boots fine now, but I get plenty of warnings and errors in logcat.
Are u restoring just the user installed apps+data, or system apps too? Or restoring system stuff like contacts data, accounts prefs, etc?
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Are u restoring just the user installed apps+data, or system apps too? Or restoring system stuff like contacts data, accounts prefs, etc?
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I did not do a "restore system data" or any batch/bulk option in TB that restored all system data. As I recall, the only system data I restored a-la-carte (by selecting the individual item from the TB list) were:
Accounts
Bluetooth pairints
Bookmarks
Calendar
Contacts
Wi-Fi Access Points
These were all items in green in TB. I don't believe I restored anything else. Possibilities I suppose are wallpaper settings, "Country, Launguage, Time Zone"... but I definitely would not have restored anything not green.
Are these items safe? Is there any system data definitely not safe to restore? I have to wonder though, if "system data" is unsafe to even restore to the same stock OS version... why back it up at all?
I'm not a long distance from doing yet another factory reset I suppose, if it must come to that. But I'd love a way a bit more analytical/exacting to try and troubleshoot this other than "reinstall one app, reboot, see what happens" as that will take me a week to get back to where I was. I also suspect it's not just one single app that would suddenly show a huge difference after installing, but instead might be the cumulative errors from several apps and knowing how to identify that and clean them up would be useful.
Using adb logcat you can view what is occurring while the phone is booting and possibly see where it is hanging or what is causing the slow boot times. I have seen problems from restoring data such as accounts and contacts with titanium backup but does not seem that it should be an issue when using the same system though I have very little experience with the stock firmware. I know it is not an answer to your question but it seems that you are wanting to remove all the att/Samsung BS so why not flash a rom that does this as well as much more?
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Thanks for the tip about adb. I've actually not needed adb for anything yet so I've never set it up or used it. I wasn't aware that the service would be active early enough on the phone's boot process to allow it to log boot logs... nor was I even aware it could do this. I'll definitely check out how to set this up... however, if you have a free second and can point me in the right direction (FAQ, instructions, etc) it'd certainly be appreciated otherwise I'll search around and try to find it.
I could probably find other ways to restore contacts and could set my accounts up again manually but I really doubt that's the cause and the other ways are sort of a pain and imperfect. Since neither of us is really convinced that'd be it I won't bother yet until/unless you really suspect it.
I wondered how long it'd take before someone would suggest a custom ROM, this being XDA and all. Short version is I'm not really sold on the concept, as they are all based on the buggy beta leaked ROM, or 2.2 ROMs from other devices that have been hacked up to sort of work as well as possible on the Captivate. All seem to have issues... enough that I'm not really left feeling confident about them. Seems every release unleashes new issues despite addressing old ones, and all seem to have at least a handful of gremlin items that just don't work quite right. Don't have a warm fuzzy feeling, and I still feel like Samsung is going to release an official 2.2 for the Captivate within the next month or so, so I'm interested to see what comes of that. If nothing else, it'll give a better baseline for custom 2.2 ROMs. Then there's the 2.3 being worked on... now that might be interesting.
I don't really think my issue here is related to me running 2.1.
On my phone so it is a pita to search and add a link for you but search for android sdk and you will find what you need to get adb up and running.
And as far as the rom issue goes..it is your phone and I respect your concerns I just had to ask
I would think its media hub that slows it down. It will search your SD cards on every boot. I would start there first.
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I would think its media hub that slows it down. It will search your SD cards on every boot. I would start there first.
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That's one of the apps I've frozen though.
For me the longest process while booting is the stupid media scanner upon bootup. Takes FOREVER for the phone to finally "boot" all the way up.
Been looking for a way to disable it (not really lol) and only have it scan manually to see if the boot time will improve. I'd start searching there.
Also - from what I've read nothing you did should have affected the phone. BUT - if your using Google for your Calendar and Contacts.. and they all get synced up to Google? Why bother doing the restore for those? After you sign up with the Market they get pulled back down to your phone automagically
It's definitely more than just the media scanner. I watch that. When everything is loaded up, it actually reboots in a loop unless intercept the FC. The media scanner will rerun over and over each time... far more than the standard two times.
And I use Google Calendar for my events, but I keep my contacts locally on my phone.
So what is the FC again?
Yep.. my media scanner will run at least 3 times before it stops checking everything.
Very frustrating that the software does this EVERY time I boot back into my phone - you'd think a programmer would put a check to see if it had run before or make it user configurable to scan when you want it to.
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So what is the FC again?
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See my second post (reply #3):
"Process system is not responding"
LOL sorry not enough coffee and a lil' guy that decided to wake up at 4a.m. = not a good mix.
Well.. did the ol' wise search of Google and came up with:
Might be a permissions issue. Easiest way to fix it is to run ROM Manager and have it fix permisions.
Run the command yourself in ADB:
Code:
Open terminal and
>su
$mount -a
$fix_permissions -r
The -r is optional, but necessary if you find orphaned apps (the app not found please reinstall message)
And reboot. That may help.
And it was also stated that you might have an errant widget/application causing the issue as well. That will be fun trying to figure out what it is.
And.. from my non-dev/non-professional experience - I have checked the logs on my phone and do see a large number of warnings on the phone - but never hindered performance.
So.. 99% of the time you can probably ignore them.
But back to the FC issue - I would try doing a restore of your apps/data again (I read where you have it back down to the "core) and then run the permission script or have ROM Manager do it for you and see if it returns.
Just an update that I think the "fix permissions" thing solved most (but perhaps not all) of my issues. Thanks so much for the tip. I've been reinstalling apps in batches and it's much better, although I see it getting bogged-down bit by bit and I can't pin down what or why.
Thing is, the apps I'm installing in these later rounds/batches shouldn't be resident all the time, shouldn't be auto-loading, and don't come up in things like Startup Cleaner or Advanced Task Killer. Nor do the various process monitors I've tried seem to have the granularity/ability to catch them while they're happening.
So things are better, but I still have some issues without a suitable means to diagnose. I don't get why just having more apps installed, but not running, should affect boot time so much. Hmm...
An inability to troubleshoot certainly rains on my love-affair with Android... not that I'm jumping to another platform anytime soon, but I really want this to work well (as well as be a good salesman to friends and family who often turn to me to show off quality technology).
After living with many different cooked roms on my Tilt and Inspire, I've observed that none of them are without their bugs and quirks. Most notably I've found that some cooked ROMs tend to suffer from performance issues after a while, others are just flat out buggy.
I'm wondering if, rather than flashing a new ROM if it might not be just as effective to root, freeze the bloatware apps that I don't want and take a Nandroid backup if I need to restore to 'stock'. Can anyone comment on whether freezing unwanted apps will help with system performance (i.e. freeing up operating memory)?
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Nobody can comment on the Pros and Cons of freezing or uninstalling with TiBU rather than flashing a ROM specifically where bloatware is concerned?
The magic with TB is you can freeze an application and let you evaluate the impact on your device. If all is good and you don't encounter any kind of bad effects, then it is safe to say you can remove it.
Otherwise, if the impact is negative on your phone you can simply “defrost” the frozen application and everything should regain normality.
TB is, honestly, the very first application every flash addict should buy. It was one of the very first I bought years ago, and it is probably the one I am using the most frequently.
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The magic with TB is you can freeze an application and let you evaluate the impact on your device. If all is good and you don't encounter any kind of bad effects, then it is safe to say you can remove it.
Otherwise, if the impact is negative on your phone you can simply “defrost” the frozen application and everything should regain normality.
TB is, honestly, the very first application every flash addict should buy. It was one of the very first I bought years ago, and it is probably the one I am using the most frequently.
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Oh, yeah. I'm a flashaholic. Or, at least I was with my Inspire. I totally rely on TiBU and ROM Manager. They were some of the best app licenses I've bought. But I've learned some things about custom ROMs over that time which suggest I want to live in OEM Stock for the time being.
What I'm trying to understand is whether or not there's a performance benefit to uninstalling bloatware applications. IOW, does it free up system resources to help the phone run faster, or is it dedicated space for storage and not accessible by the system for cache or other benefits.
On that subject, is it possible to create my own 'cooked' rom by uninstalling the stuff I don't want (like the AT&T Bloatware, SoundHound, Polaris Office, and so on) and replace them with apps that I prefer like Documents2Go, SugarSync and other stuff that I'd rather have in the ROM?
I guess I'm just not understanding how the Android ecosphere works in terms of system partitions, where the ROM is located, what happens when we flash a ROM and if I can achieve the same thing on my own without having to learn how to use the 'kitchen' to roll my own worrying about deodexing and all that other fancy-dancy tech stuff.
I've come across a couple recommended apps that seem to do the same thing. I'm hoping you guys can help me pick which one does the job the best and if there really is no difference which one would be the most lightweight. Thanks!
For ad blocking:
AdAway
AdBlock Plus for Android
For my friend who has 1GB internal and 16GB mSD who wants to move as much as possible to her mSD:
FolderMount
Link2SD Plus (The Paid Version)
Root Uninstalling Apps Without Leaving Behind Gunk
Clean Master (With Root Access)
Root Toolbox Pro (Paid Version)
Root App Delete
Root Uninstaller Pro (Paid Version)
SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Titanium Backup Pro (Paid Version)
Junk Cleaning
Clean Master
CCleaner
SD Maid
EDIT:
Best Note Taking App for School:
S Note
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Best OCR app that exports to pdf, txt, or anything I can copy/paste from? Apps I am considering:
CamScanner
OCR Instantly
Samsung Optical Reader
I use adfree. It doesn't mess up CNN or BBC app.
The ext SD card fix goes a long way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
Titanium backup pro
Cachemate
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I use adfree. It doesn't mess up CNN or BBC app.
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Android_Monsters said:
Cachemate
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I used to use AdFree since my G1 but I switched to AdAway when the hosts stopped updating. Cachemate I used to use since my G1 also but found Clean Master to be vastly superior.
The hosts still update. They didn't for a while.
Same with adaway.
Google can't openly support ad blocking software:
I wouldn't use clean master. If you like it. Then you answered your own question:
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The hosts still update. They didn't for a while.
Same with adaway.
Google can't openly support ad blocking software:
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Well if AdFree still updates its hosts I'd seriously consider switching back
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I wouldn't use clean master. If you like it. Then you answered your own question:
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I just felt cachemate hasn't been effective enough since the jump to Donut. What's your opinion on CCleaner and SD Maid? I have shared the same sentiments as that screenshot tbh
Just updated adfree:
Force closes with ccleaner.
Sd maid works and does more than cachemate.
That's a good find:
ThR1LL said:
I've come across a couple recommended apps that seem to do the same thing. I'm hoping you guys can help me pick which one does the job the best and if there really is no difference which one would be the most lightweight. Thanks!
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They might look like apps doing the same thing but actually they are all very different.
Root Uninstalling Apps Without Leaving Behind Gunk
Clean Master (With Root Access)
Does remove apps including left overs, but is far from leightweight. There are also some concerns about the app as a whole ( google a bit, build your own opinion). I consider it "scareware".
Root Toolbox Pro (Paid Version)
I'm not sure if this actually supports root uninstall? I'm pretty sure though it doesn't clean up after uninstalls.
Root App Delete
Does support root uninstalls, but does not clean up after them AFAIK.
Root Uninstaller Pro (Paid Version)
Has quite extensive options in terms of app management, but also does not clean up after uninstall AFAIK.
SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Does support root uninstalls and also cleans up after uninstalls. You also don't need the paid verison for this. (Full disclosure: This is my app).
Titanium Backup Pro (Paid Version)
Supports root uninstalls, but not clean up of leftovers, though that's not it's job (it's a backup app).
Junk Cleaning
Clean Master
CCleaner
SD Maid
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner.
For Adblocking, "AdAway" does seems to work better. Sadly the dev has not a lot of spare time to keep it updated, but it's opensource and there is a nice community around it keeping working. Neither one is really bad though.
FolderMount and Link2SD are two different concepts (links vs mounts). Read up on both. I think Link2SD does not work in all scenarios.
If you are looking to get some good tools out of yours listed, get TitaniumBackup, SD Maid and AdAway. You won't regret it.
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Force closes with ccleaner.
Sd maid works and does more than cachemate.
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Is it this CacheMate you're talking about? It's the one I'm referring too. Just wanting to make sure because you've convinced me lol
Dark3n;58350534SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Does support root uninstalls and also cleans up after uninstalls. You also don't need the paid verison for this. (Full disclosure: [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063" said:
This is my app[/URL]).
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner
If you are looking to get some good tools out of yours listed, get TitaniumBackup, SD Maid and AdAway. You won't regret it.
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Well sir I applaud you on an absolutely thorough and well coded app! I have had it installed on my Android devices for the past 3 years and I must say I never knew it was this powerful! The GUI is really awesome now too so definitely hats off for that. I'm pretty much convinced what to go with!
As far as FolderMount and Link2SD I've read things regarding those apps with my friend's phone specifically and apparently Link2SD has broken a mSD here and there so I'll play with FolderMount on her phone. Thanks!
Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
Dark3n said:
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner.
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I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Can't really say, there is too much influencing everything, including peoples own psychology. Troubleshooting would start with making it reproduceable, then see what tool specifically causes and then check logcats.
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Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Those apps really use a lot of cached data to respond to your actions (get the word you're trying to swipe correct) and most cleaning utilities clean out the app caches as well as the system cache. So after cleaning, some apps and possibly even the system itself will seem to respond a little slower which is only because it's rebuilding it's cache. Unless the slowdown seemed to last for an excessively long time, that's just normal and not "bad" behavior.
I'm of the opinion that cleaning caches / other junk that accumulates on your system is a good practice, to be done pretty frequently. In exchange for that period of slowdown, while caches are rebuilding, the entire phone, including those apps will get a speed-boost, but I'd think a person is more likely to think that their phone is "acting normally again" than to really notice that boost.
SD Maid Pro and Clean Master are actually my two favorite maintenance utilities. Clean Master in particular has stepped up its game huge time as of late, packing a plethora of super useful functions into it. Among the best is it's auto-start manager (only works for root users). Starting on my N4, I actually switched from Avast to CM Antivirus. Even when I had Avast running, CM was the only app to ever give me popup warnings that a sideloaded app was potentially malicious. Usually a false positive, but still.
Anyway, back to your question, when your friend complained of the slowdown, was it generally very soon after running a cleaner? I'd recommend that she reinstall at least CM, then after running it, just leave her phone sitting for about 10-15 mins. I would think that after that, any noticeable change in the performance of the app would be pretty significantly reduced.
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Those apps really use a lot of cached data to respond to your actions (get the word you're trying to swipe correct) and most cleaning utilities clean out the app caches as well as the system cache. So after cleaning, some apps and possibly even the system itself will seem to respond a little slower which is only because it's rebuilding it's cache. Unless the slowdown seemed to last for an excessively long time, that's just normal and not "bad" behavior.
I'm of the opinion that cleaning caches / other junk that accumulates on your system is a good practice, to be done pretty frequently. In exchange for that period of slowdown, while caches are rebuilding, the entire phone, including those apps will get a speed-boost, but I'd think a person is more likely to think that their phone is "acting normally again" than to really notice that boost.
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I was thinking the same thing regarding the rebuilding of cache. Also I've noticed SD Maid finds things Clean Master doesn't but also vice versa.
Out of the topic of cleaners anyone wanna share their $0.02 on my edited OP of best organized note taking app for school and best OCR app that exports to a copy/paste-able file like pdf or txt?
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Starting on my N4, I actually switched from Avast to CM Antivirus. Even when I had Avast running, CM was the only app to ever give me popup warnings that a sideloaded app was potentially malicious. Usually a false positive, but still.
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I'm pretty sure Avast also checks sideloaded apps. Why would you rather have false positive results than just being notified when there is actually something?
I'd also like to point out over new year CM considered SD Maids Unlocker to be "malicious" and a "virus" that can "slow down the device" or "cause freezes". While the "false positive" may have been an overzealous database match, the information about it "slowing down the device" or "freezing it" is just pure bull**** that only serves the purpose of making it sound worse, and subsequently giving you the user the feeling of everything running smoother. Don't be manipulated by psychological cues.
CM may produce good results or not, but no matter what results their behavior undermines any good will you could have towards their apps. It's the textbook definition of scareware.
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after running it, just leave her phone sitting for about 10-15 mins. I would think that after that, any noticeable change in the performance of the app would be pretty significantly reduced.
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Apps regenerate their cache only on demand, as not all apps are running all the time, most apps will not regenerate caches just by waiting. In some cases the app has to be actually opened, in other cases apps that act on intents, may start and generate caches seemingly random.
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I was thinking the same thing regarding the rebuilding of cache.
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You can exclude specific caches if it's always causing issues, if you are rooted you can also restrict cache cleaning to files that are older than X days.
Evernote is a fairly popular and pretty extensive note taking solution. Not sure how far you can get for free though. Some features require a premium subscription.
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CM may produce good results or not, but no matter what results their behavior undermines any good will you could have towards their apps. It's the textbook definition of scareware.
Evernote is a fairly popular and pretty extensive note taking solution. Not sure how far you can get for free though. Some features require a premium subscription.
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I recently reinstalled Clean Master to test something out and that is how I found out both apps clean things the other doesn't. For example I used the App Control tab on SD Maid to uninstall a couple apps. After running Clean Master it would pick up empty folders left behind from the uninstall that SD Maid didn't pick up in the System and Tombstones scan.
On a side note. Anyone recommend a sweet OCR app that exports to a searchable and copy/paste-able format?
Is the built in anti virus on the P9 sufficient or is it advisable to download another one.
Any advice please.?
1. There are no viruses on Android
2. Most of apps that call them self anitivirus are nothing more but crap that beside sucking memory and battery do nothing
3. Most of problems that people call "virus" is nothing more but some crappy made app that mess up phone performance or download few other crappy apps in background like lockscreen or cleaner.
4. Build in antivirus on Huawei is just icon that do nothing... because it dont have anything to do, BECAUSE look at point 1.
Im using android for almost... forever of it existing, I was rooting and giving free access to all apps i could, I once did test and clicked all ads and installed all shady apps I could find, give them root access... and beside few more crappy apps that they downloaded in background... NOTHING.
Even my router logs didnt show any weird data that was send/recived in phone.
All you can get on your phone is viruses that are made for PC, that will transfer them self to it when you connect it to PC, this is only example that I know that someone had related to "viruses", but it was not even made for android...
All you need to do, to keep your device in good shape and safe, is to keep it clean, use build in cleaner that is good for removing trash files, and keeping an eye on permissions of apps, if app dont need internet access or contact list, remove that permission.
Simple as that...
This is pretty much it. Don't be the user that installs 5 cleaning apps / anti-viruses and wonder why the phone is so slow. I see users every week that slow their phone down with this stuff.
Hi all,
My phone is quite slow nowadays and has an annoying 5 second freeze every time I wake it up.
As ColorIS 13 looks to be far away in Europe I really need to factory reset.
What's the best way to do this without losing everything in my System Clone?
And is there a tool (PC?) for Oppo phones to restore apps WITH data/settings included?
Android loads can last for years, remain fast and stable if you don't do firmware upgrades/updates. Otherwise factory reset after an upgrade. Android loads can be exceptionally long lived if not screw up by the former or buggy 3rd party apps.
Try in safe mode to see if a 3rd party app(s) are the cause rather than the current core load settings.
Importing app settings even if possible invites the possibility of importing the current existing problems with it. Do a clean load if you go to the trouble of a factory reset. You should already have all critical data backed up redundantly and in order. Including backup exports for all apps that allow it especially Poweramp if you use it.
Make installable copies of all vetted apps for backup and reloads. No Playstore needed; reloads go much faster and smoother.
Use copy/paste file transfers backup and restores rather than automated transfer apps... they can cause data lose if you depend on them 100%.
Another option that's not as drastic is to reset all app settings to their default settings. It may or may not get it. It's always best to find to root cause of an issue if at all possible to prevent it from potentially reoccurring. Only a rootkit, dugged in malware or a boot loop demand a factory reset.
Unfortunately there are not many apps that provide a backup (like Nova launcher, Nights keeper etc).
That means that I would have to reconfigure dozens of apps, some of them being quite cumbersome like home automation apps.
You end up taking a few days to inventorize all settings, possible backups, passwords, accounts etc and configuring those apps again.
Google should implement the possibility to backup and restore data on an per-app basis like I used to be able to do with Titanium Backup
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Unfortunately there are not many apps that provide a backup (like Nova launcher, Nights keeper etc).
That means that I would have to reconfigure dozens of apps, some of them being quite cumbersome like home automation apps.
You end up taking a few days to inventorize all settings, possible backups, passwords, accounts etc and configuring those apps again.
Google should implement the possibility to backup and restore data on an per-app basis like I used to be able to do with Titanium Backup
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Try temporarily disabling Nova launcher and see if that helps. Try using the native launcher instead. Target all apps that run at boot up. Launchers are some of the few apps that can boot loop an Android.
Any signs of system instability should be taken seriously as they are the only warning you may get before a boot loop.
After 2 back to bach boot loops and full reloads in 3 days I got very organized and proficient at it That was over 2.5 years ago, that's how long this load has been running on this heavily used N10+. Still running on Pie.
How can i check which apps run at boot up?
@latino147 Swift Backup is pretty good at backing everything up, and with root can backup app data. Problem is, to attain root, you'll have to factory reset, which will wipe your data, and there's no way around that.
Yesterday I cleared the caches of several apps and suddenly everything seems to be working fine again
Do you guys know if it's possible to clear ALL caches in one swoop?
Both ColorOS and the developer options don't seem to have such an option.
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Yesterday I cleared the caches of several apps and suddenly everything seems to be working fine again
Do you guys know if it's possible to clear ALL caches in one swoop?
Both ColorOS and the developer options don't seem to have such an option.
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Sd Maid Pro can at least on Android 9 and 10.
It clips the app caches to 20kb I think it is. If you try to go to zero it will hang on the running apps. It does a nice clean up job on stock Androids and hasn't caused any critical data lose. Can't say the same about CCleaner