Related
I realize that in an Android-centric forum branch, I risk cries of heresy, but looking at the specs for upcoming Windows Phone 7 phones, I'm wondering if it will be possible to port Windows Mobile 7 to the Nexus One.
Not knowing enough about ROM cooking, I am wondering if any devs have opinions on the feasibility of this.
I am NOT interested in opinions about Windows Mobile 7 by itself, or as compared to any other platform, Android or otherwise, so please don't bother posting "b-b-but WinMo sucks", etc.
Thanks in advance!
maxawesome said:
I realize that in an Android-centric forum branch, I risk cries of heresy, but looking at the specs for upcoming Windows Phone 7 phones, I'm wondering if it will be possible to port Windows Mobile 7 to the Nexus One.
Not knowing enough about ROM cooking, I am wondering if any devs have opinions on the feasibility of this.
I am NOT interested in opinions about Windows Mobile 7 by itself, or as compared to any other platform, Android or otherwise, so please don't bother posting "b-b-but WinMo sucks", etc.
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Almost impossible since WP7 isn't open source.
(And it's not finished yet anyway.)
Also, Windows Mobile 7 =/= Windows Phone 7
My understanding is that Windows Phone 7 is to the WinMo platform what Centrino is to Intel-based notebooks, i.e. a set of required hardware to guarantee a certain experience.
Windows Mobile 7 (as in the OS itself) has been ported to the HTC HD2, right?
I just wondered if the same might not be possible now that the WinMo 7 SDK is out (not in final form, I know, but still...)??
winmo 7 won't run on hd2
timothydonohue said:
winmo 7 won't run on hd2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, in that case, what about dual-booting an Android phone to run WinMo 6.5?
I've seen articles on some bootloader that will let you dual boot WinMo 6.5 and Android from a WinMo phone. Is it possible to do the same on an Android handset?
maxawesome said:
Ok, in that case, what about dual-booting an Android phone to run WinMo 6.5?
I've seen articles on some bootloader that will let you dual boot WinMo 6.5 and Android from a WinMo phone. Is it possible to do the same on an Android handset?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a hell of a lot easier to port Android to a WinMo phone due to the fact that it's open source (hell, it's even been ported to iphone).
Getting any version of WinMo ported to Android would probably be possible, but incredibly difficult.
Ah, good point I hadn't thought of. I guess I just figured that even though WinMo isn't open source, enough of the hardware is common between devices these days so that drivers baked into WinMo would just work. Showing my novice, obviously.
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
I'm sure that nobody will bother:
1) It's going to prove VERY complicated, to say the least. Without "inside job" with the drivers, just plain impossible.
2) It's useless. If you're after Windows Phone 7 phones - just go and buy yourself one. Installing Android on it will be much easier than the other way around, and most probably it was already done.
Because of both of the points, it won't happen. There are reasonable challenges, and there are oh-so-stupid ones. And people mostly have lives. So if I were you, I wouldn't hold on to the hope, and would just go out and buy WinPhone 7.
Specifically for point 1: Microsoft certifies all the HW that is licensed to work with their OS, and all the drivers are made ONLY for this HW, and not for anything else. VERY CPU- and board-specific. Seeing that you have a Samsung phone, which doesn't have this HW or anything like it, I'd say that the chances of hell freezing over are higher than your phone getting Win7 port. Well, at least until your specific CPU (which happens, unlike most other SGS2 ones, to be of the "right" brand for Win7 phones) and phone motherboard (which might never become a base for Win7 phone) gets certified and has drivers done for it - happens only if exactly the same base will be used for Win7 phone - and Microsoft outsourcing them. I'd bet my money on hell freezing over
Hi:
I current have an HTC HD2 Telstra, and it came with Windows Mobile. Thanks to the brilliant folks at XDA, I have been successfully running Android, and every time I want to upgrade the type of Android I use, I simply replace the Android folder….simply brilliant.
So I now have no need for Windows Mobile, and am looking to do the same with Windows 8 and Android, and I am trying to find which phone out there is as versatile as the HTC HD2 Telstra, and comes with Windows Phone 8 installed.
How will I know which phone with Windows 8 installed will enable me to also install Android in the same fashion? If I could create the phone, it would be a 5” screen, Windows 8, and a lot of power. Anything close to that would be acceptable, but it must be Windows 8. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chaz
With Windows Phone 7 there was never a port of Android to any device and given that WP8 employs Secure Boot to make sure only verified OS-code is loaded and executed I highly doubt we will see anything similar to the HD2 with WP8. Aside from that no one would be able to say that beforehand.
No Windows Phones do what you want.
Why not just buy an Android phone if that's what you want (for some inexplicable reason)?
chazperx said:
Hi:
I current have an HTC HD2 Telstra, and it came with Windows Mobile. Thanks to the brilliant folks at XDA, I have been successfully running Android, and every time I want to upgrade the type of Android I use, I simply replace the Android folder….simply brilliant.
So I now have no need for Windows Mobile, and am looking to do the same with Windows 8 and Android, and I am trying to find which phone out there is as versatile as the HTC HD2 Telstra, and comes with Windows Phone 8 installed.
How will I know which phone with Windows 8 installed will enable me to also install Android in the same fashion? If I could create the phone, it would be a 5” screen, Windows 8, and a lot of power. Anything close to that would be acceptable, but it must be Windows 8. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chaz
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why don't you just buy a galaxy note if you want android and 5" screen, why on earth would you want to buy a windows phone just to port android????
lumpaywk said:
Why don't you just buy a galaxy note if you want android and 5" screen, why on earth would you want to buy a windows phone just to port android????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because I can....lol I like the flexibility of running two different OS, and the additional apps I can use as a result. Keep in mind, I really don't need anything, but if its possible with WIN8 and Android....why wouldn't anyone want two OS on one phone?
chazperx said:
if its possible with WIN8 and Android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firstly, Windows 8 does not run on phones.
Secondly, Windows Phone 8 devices will not be able to run Android (thankfully).
Thirdly, no Android device will be able to run Windows Phone 8.
I think you will need 2 separate phones, or you will have to choose one or the other if you only want one phone.
tai4de2 said:
Firstly, Windows 8 does not run on phones.
Secondly, Windows Phone 8 devices will not be able to run Android (thankfully).
Thirdly, no Android device will be able to run Windows Phone 8.
I think you will need 2 separate phones, or you will have to choose one or the other if you only want one phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK....it seems that XDA haven't cracked code that disables other OS on Windows Phone. I'm counting on that, but I wont go two phones, I would just buy a cheap tablet.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
chazperx said:
OK....it seems that XDA haven't cracked code that disables other OS on Windows Phone. I'm counting on that, but I wont go two phones, I would just buy a cheap tablet.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want a tablet then windows 8 tablets (not windows phone) will run bluestacks.
Do windows phone 7 and 8 apps run on Windows 7 and 8 desktops?
chazperx said:
Do windows phone 7 and 8 apps run on Windows 7 and 8 desktops?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only if you have an emulator. Windows phone 8 and windows 8 share a common kernel and a lot of cross platform ability however an app will need to be written for the phone or for windows 8. That said in most cases this is just a case of how you compile it or a very small amount of code change so you can expect the growth of windows 8 and windows phone 8 to push each others markets up.
chazperx said:
Hi:
I current have an HTC HD2 Telstra, and it came with Windows Mobile. Thanks to the brilliant folks at XDA, I have been successfully running Android, and every time I want to upgrade the type of Android I use, I simply replace the Android folder….simply brilliant.
So I now have no need for Windows Mobile, and am looking to do the same with Windows 8 and Android, and I am trying to find which phone out there is as versatile as the HTC HD2 Telstra, and comes with Windows Phone 8 installed.
How will I know which phone with Windows 8 installed will enable me to also install Android in the same fashion? If I could create the phone, it would be a 5” screen, Windows 8, and a lot of power. Anything close to that would be acceptable, but it must be Windows 8. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chaz
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One word...wait... Android for the HD2 did not come out the day the phone was released. The ONLY reason why it had Windows Phone 7 is because Microsoft used it in their testing of WP7, so drivers were leaked and everyone built on it as they learned more. Android was ported to Windows Mobile devices and most, if not all of them were able to run some flavor of Android, even if was just the SDcard boot method.
Time will tell if there will be that magic device that Microsoft MIGHT of used in testing that ran all OS's (WM, WP7 and WP8) and then you might have a earier chance but, I would not count on it.
The only thing you can do is wait, one of the hacker will attempt one device at one point, if they succeed AND release it, you might have it.
Right now, the odds of it happening is very low on phones that have not been released yet and even for months after.
I wish you luck but, if you really want Android more than Windows Phone, I might suggest to just pick up a Android device.
Good luck
DavidinCT said:
One word...wait... Android for the HD2 did not come out the day the phone was released. The ONLY reason why it had Windows Phone 7 is because Microsoft used it in their testing of WP7, so drivers were leaked and everyone built on it as they learned more. Android was ported to Windows Mobile devices and most, if not all of them were able to run some flavor of Android, even if was just the SDcard boot method.
Time will tell if there will be that magic device that Microsoft MIGHT of used in testing that ran all OS's (WM, WP7 and WP8) and then you might have a earier chance but, I would not count on it.
The only thing you can do is wait, one of the hacker will attempt one device at one point, if they succeed AND release it, you might have it.
Right now, the odds of it happening is very low on phones that have not been released yet and even for months after.
I wish you luck but, if you really want Android more than Windows Phone, I might suggest to just pick up a Android device.
Good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If Microsot ever tries their new Windows Phone 8 on HTC HD2..
I'm pretty sure that they would ask Cotulla to develope a new Magldr for them
NOTE: I anso own a hd2...
chazperx said:
Because I can....lol I like the flexibility of running two different OS, and the additional apps I can use as a result. Keep in mind, I really don't need anything, but if its possible with WIN8 and Android....why wouldn't anyone want two OS on one phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are advantages to each OS. I presently have dual boot Wp7.8 (pdaimatejam) and Android on the same HD2 (with 32gb SDcard). It is just brilliant. I can run either and both the latest in these are very smooth. Got the best of both worlds - pretty unique.
Just wanted to start a thread for everyone that will be trying out the Ubuntu Phone OS Preview on the 21st Feb 2013 and for people that eventually move to UPOS upon release.
I have a few questions.
1. Will it be flashable in fast boot and does it replace Android completely?
2. Who is going to try it when the Dev Preview comes out on Thursday?
3. What are you looking forward to the most?
I personally use Ubuntu 12.10 (always loved tinkering with Linux distros) on my new PC rig and love it. So I'm naturally excited for the Phone OS alternative. Sound off in the comments below
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Simmo3D said:
Just wanted to start a thread for everyone that will be trying out the Ubuntu Phone OS Preview on the 21st Feb 2013 and for people that eventually move to UPOS upon release.
I have a few questions.
1. Will it be flashable in fast boot and does it replace Android completely?
2. Who is going to try it when the Dev Preview comes out on Thursday?
3. What are you looking forward to the most?
I personally use Ubuntu 12.10 (always loved tinkering with Linux distros) on my new PC rig and love it. So I'm naturally excited for the Phone OS alternative. Sound off in the comments below
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's an actually forum entireley dedicated to Ubuntu OS, has all the answers you want already...however,
1. According to early reports, flashable in CWM. However, i'd suspect fastboot more likely, like when installing Nexus 7 image. Replaces Android entirely, so backup backup backup before going ahead with it.
2. Will be trying it out, most likely on my old GNEX however rather than Nex 4 - as I use nex 4 at work, need to have good for enterprise, wont be good for enterprise for Ubuntu OS anytime soon.
3. Everything. I expect Ubuntu OS being native, rather than a JVM like Android's application layer, will set my phones free. I especially like the idea of carrying a laptop in my pocket...
Please use the existing thread
Ubuntu phone os
or our forum
Ubuntu for Phones
Closed
In the old days of the HD2, I used to dual boot Android and Windows Phone and loved the two different user experiences.
I would love to be able to flash a Windows Phone Rom on the Note to test out, but wondered if there is another way.
What would be the best base Rom to start, I know there are WP launchers on the market, but whats the most accurate, can I get notifications, sounds, gallery, music etc....similar to WP
I know you may find this crazy as Android is the greatest, but I want to get this feeling of trying Windows Phone without actually having to buy one
It will remain a fantasy... microsoft doesnt release its os roms. So you cant dual boot ur android. Microsoft could have released their os lisence for other android phones. But that would have been a risk and a lot of work to do to optimize win phone 8 for a variey of hardware. So they have kept it in nokia. Plus thesedays its not hard to get a new device than switcing os on just one phone.
Yes for usability i think win phone is easy to use than android. But android is becoming the new phone standard. So ppl will learn it quickly. Like i did a year back. I was a symbian lover before than.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
I haven't ran Windows in a really long time. Last time I used it daily was 10+ years ago with WinXP in high school. Linux has been my primary OS since I was 16 (28 now), dual booted Win2k Pro\Debian way back then...
Any who...I have access to both 7 & 8 for cheap and was wondering if ya'll would recommend 7 Ultimate or 8 Pro. I've read a ton of crap about 8, some good, some bad, and I think that I won't like it, but if something like Classic Shell would make 8 run like a better version of 7 then cool, I'll go that route.
Anyone one here have experience with both and want to make a recommendation in regards to working with Android.
Thanks.
Go seven. 8 is crap
skeevydude said:
I haven't ran Windows in a really long time. Last time I used it daily was 10+ years ago with WinXP in high school. Linux has been my primary OS since I was 16 (28 now), dual booted Win2k Pro\Debian way back then...
Any who...I have access to both 7 & 8 for cheap and was wondering if ya'll would recommend 7 Ultimate or 8 Pro. I've read a ton of crap about 8, some good, some bad, and I think that I won't like it, but if something like Classic Shell would make 8 run like a better version of 7 then cool, I'll go that route.
Anyone one here have experience with both and want to make a recommendation in regards to working with Android.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
7.......forget about 8....
I wish i could use linux.......
htchd2fix said:
7.......forget about 8....
I wish i could use linux.......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, that's what I was thinking as well. Metro doesn't even seem appealing to me.....I've never cared for tiled interfaces, ever, and I like the Start Menu. Played with 8 on a laptop in WallyWorld for a half an hour waiting on a prescription to be filled and I couldn't figure it out for the life of me. I haven't felt like that much of a noob since I was like 7 or 8 and did the 3.11 to 98 update (new PC)...which reminds me, back in those days a $2000 PC only had 533mhz, 32mb of ram, cruddy onboard graphics, and an 8 gb hard drive....top of the line.
It's mostly the new interface of windows 8 that people are not used to but there are also some things removed compareed to windows 7. See
http://xpwasmyidea.blogspot.com/2011/09/features-removed-in-windows-8.html
Also, some apps don't run well on windows 8 (yet).
I have used win 8 since it's developers version, until now, bought its official version and there is no problem for me. Still do modding on phone well But the choice is yours.
The metro interface on 8 doesn't really bother me because I stay on the desktop 90% of the time
Sent from my MB886 using xda premium
Win 8 really shines if you have a touch interface. If you are using a mouse and keyboard I still prefer 7.
Sent from my MB886 using xda app-developers app
8 is junk I hate it. I wish I still had 7.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
Windows 8 isn't that bad, but it is a departure from the way things used to be. I don't know, Windows 8 works smoothly enough for me and after buying and installing Start8 to bring back the traditional Start button and menu I really don't see anything wrong with the changes Microsoft made with this OS.
Windows 8.1 will mark a return of the Start button and menu, giving traditional users a more familiar environment. Metro/Modern UI is sleek, simple and very fluid. I abandoned Android for Windows Phone back in August/September and for the time I had it, it was an enjoyable phone to use. The lack of top tier apps was insulting though and I couldn't stand it. Bad form Microsoft. Bad form.
Anyways, MS embraced the fact times were changing. They got ripped to shreds. They left things the way they were for a long time. They got ripped to shreds.
Oh come on guys....
No offtopic!
Thread closed.