Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.
Sowden said:
Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.
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If you want root capabilities i wouldn't take any OTA. You'll still have to go back to NCE to root anyhow i believe. As far as the boot loader it is and always has been locked on the AT&T S5. The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE
dirtydodge said:
The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE
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Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.
Sowden said:
Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.
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Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.
dirtydodge said:
Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.
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Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.
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Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure on the different slots and bootloader mainly because when i used different slots the battery drain was unbearable. I don't know if they every fixed the battery drain issue when using different slots. It was bad enough that i just stuck to the stock slot and flashed only in that slot.
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Haven't seen a thread for this, so here it goes. I followed one of the guides to get me to kk. I was having trouble doing ota so I flashed the 2400258.zip file, and rooted with tr. Not sure if the problem was there before root, but after every restart, I have to re enter wifi password. I have tried udroid, and firekat ,and still same issue. Any help is greatly appreciated, thank you. Would also like to add my wife is on 100% official kk, rooted with tr, and she has no issues.
You must be on nc2 rom with old bootloader.
i have the same wifi issue.
1. Flash the nc2 bootloader
or flash a older rom that is not nc2.
netnerd said:
You must be on nc2 rom with old bootloader.
i have the same wifi issue.
1. Flash the nc2 bootloader
or flash a older rom that is not nc2.
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What thread is the bootloader, and if it's Odin, what option do I flash it? ap?
Everybody say do not flash new bootloader cus you can't downgrade back to jellybean. But why would you want to go back?
Check the general thread titled nc2 bootloader/download fix.
Thanks bud. I'll give it a go.
I've searched and researched. I'm not finding a matching thread/procedure for my situation. I've never rooted before so I wanted to make sure I was following the right procedure. Thanks in advance for any help.
I'm currently running stock recently updated AT&T 5.0 N900AUCUEOC2. I don't care if I remove stock apps and I'd prefer not to trip odin if possible. Backups of all my files have already been done manually and I'm ready for a reset/wipe.
Is it safe for me to follow the procedure for oc1 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/update-procedure-lollipop-5-0-oc1-t3063760?
What is the difference between wipe and non-wipe tars?
Will it force OTA update to OC2 after I do root procedure for OC1? Will OC2 be rooted afterwards?
Is someone working on a procedure for OC2?
I've had the same problem and haven't been able to root. Someone should try to work on this I'm sure we're not the only ones
Ditto, Att note 3 running oc2. I've tried odin and a few one click programs with no luck.
Have anyone found a way to root OC2?
There are many posts explaining how to root. Unfortunately, I don't think It can be done while on lollipop. None of the popular root tools work on lollipop (kingoroot/towelroot). You have to odin back to NC2 (Kitkat), Root, install safestrap and busybox, then you can install OC2 in safestrap via a pre-rooted OC2 ROM or backup.
Hitmizzle said:
There are many posts explaining how to root. Unfortunately, I don't think It can't be done while on lollipop. None of the popular root tools work on lollipop (kingoroot/towelroot). You have to odin back to NC2 (Kitkat), root, then you can install OC2 in safestrap via a pre-rooted OC2 ROM or backup.
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Hitmizzle, you summarized very well :good: - I also spent days trying to find a root method on OC2 but to no avail. Eventually I ended up restoring to NC2, rooted, then installed a pre-rooted OC2 as you described. I think the admin should bookmark your post so as to save much time for other people.
OC2 OTA
I'm running OC1 rooted and got a notification for an update which I assume is OC2. If I take that OTA update will I lose root on my device?
sibenj said:
I'm running OC1 rooted and got a notification for an update which I assume is OC2. If I take that OTA update will I lose root on my device?
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Yes, assuming the update doesn't fail. If you want OC2, there's a rooted OC2 ROM update at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006
I'm not very hacky or what you call it, my know-how in this region is not very good, so I'm hoping someone here is able to help me.
When I was in USA I bought myself a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5 (G900A), paid it off and had it service unlocked (called AT&T and they unlocked it for me). Then I went back to Ukraine and now I want to to be rooted... and have lollipop.
I don't know how to upgrade it to lollipop... Kies and the phone says I have the latest firmware and I cant get it updated. On top of that, I've read in posts here that if I update before rooting it, I might be in trouble later on the road.
Towelroot V3 says that my phone is not supported so I can't root it that route...
I've read tutorials here about rooting with the ND3 update... first of all, I don't know what the ND3 update is and how to obtain it since I can't update my phone OTA in Ukraine.
How do I go about this?
More information about my phone (since I learned more information about this process).
Kernel date is Tuesday July 22 2014... towelroot is said to work for any before June 3, 2014... this is probably why my phone isn't supported.
Also, is it true that Android 5.0 removes the SD Card functionality???
Well, I got it rooted... thanks to muniz_ri!
I just went ahead and risked it, not knowing what ND3 or NG3 was.
My next step is flashing it to Android 5+ ... that is if it doesn't remove the SD Card functionality
Well, I found these instructions on flashing my G900A to a pre-rooted stock lollipop... the problem I'm having is with FireFlash... I can't seem to find that app anywhere.
elitezenithweb said:
Well, I found these instructions on flashing my G900A to a pre-rooted stock lollipop... the problem I'm having is with FireFlash... I can't seem to find that app anywhere.
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Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59959596
SM-G870A Peace
Thank you!!!!!
Wait, I'm confused - you say you were able to downgrade your G900A to a rooted 4.x state? I thought root was impossible once you take the 5.0 update?
TJBilyk said:
Wait, I'm confused - you say you were able to downgrade your G900A to a rooted 4.x state? I thought root was impossible once you take the 5.0 update?
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You can only if you didn't take on the 5.0 OC4 bootloader and kept OA1
I didn't take the 5.0 update since I am out of the country and OTA updates don't come here... but I did have the NG3 update... so I downgraded to ND3, rooted and went back to NG3... then I flashed a prerooted 5.0 stock ROM with OA1 (I think...) and now I'm using it...
Hey guys. I've been out of the loop. Is it safe to flash the DOK2 baseband/bootloader? Or should i just stay on COG2? Does it still have problems with root? You cant downgrade to 5.0.1 or 4.4.4 after flashing right ?
ayeitschris said:
Hey guys. I've been out of the loop. Is it safe to flash the DOK2 baseband/bootloader? Or should i just stay on COG2? Does it still have problems with root? You cant downgrade to 5.0.1 or 4.4.4 after flashing right ?
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If you wish to stay on 5.0.1 or 4.4.4, then its not safe. Correct, you cannot downgrade. I tried going back to Darthstalker (5.0.1) and it bootlooped after going to DOK2 baseband/bootloader. I heard there is a way to downgrade the bootloader, but its not a very straight forward way
Plus, to add to that, there isn't a regular root method i do not believe. It's Systemless Root with means you don't have full root capabilities
Just upgrade baseband only like i did. Its fine then.
I have a Galaxy S5 (G900A), rooted on Lollipop 5.0 (0F3) using prerooted firmwares to upgrade from rooted kitkat. My bootloader version is still OA1. I want to downgrade now to kitkat so i can use safestrap. I was wondering if i could downgrade using the G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar mentioned here and here, since i still have to OA1 bootloader, to downgrade without bricking my phone.
treyboyd98 said:
I have a Galaxy S5 (G900A), rooted on Lollipop 5.0 (0F3) using prerooted firmwares to upgrade from rooted kitkat. My bootloader version is still OA1. I want to downgrade now to kitkat so i can use safestrap. I was wondering if i could downgrade using the G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar mentioned here and here, since i still have to OA1 bootloader, to downgrade without bricking my phone.
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Yes you can use that downgrade file. I have used it many times. Your phone might run real laggy though after you downgrade. There is a thread somewhere that shows how to fix that issue. I'll see if i can find it for you.