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Android 5.0

Just read this online. French carrier, SFR has revealed the release date for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy S5, and LG G3. Sorry don't know how to paste a link.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...op-software-update-release-schedule-leaks.htm

January. Not too bad I guess.

But S5 already start receiving 5.0 update in Poland
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Is anyone else annoyed that the S5 is getting the update first?
Note 4 is the companies most latest phone . I expected it to get lollipop first or at least in parallel with the S5. Feel really cheated. I upgraded from my Note 2 to my Note 4 because I understand newer devices get the latest firmwares first and here a 6 month old phone is getting the update first. I guess it because the S5 is more common right?
Anyway very annoyed why should I go and get the latest hardware if its going to be shuffled aside and not get updated first

I wouldn't be too butthurt over a ~4 week wait. The core functionality of your phone will remain fundamentally the same once you upgrade anyway.
And yes, I do believe it's because the S series is considered more mainstream than the Note line.

icanfly77 said:
Is anyone else annoyed that the S5 is getting the update first?
Note 4 is the companies most latest phone . I expected it to get lollipop first or at least in parallel with the S5. Feel really cheated. I upgraded from my Note 2 to my Note 4 because I understand newer devices get the latest firmwares first and here a 6 month old phone is getting the update first. I guess it because the S5 is more common right?
Anyway very annoyed why should I go and get the latest hardware if its going to be shuffled aside and not get updated first
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as an owner of... well every samsung because i'm an addict, i can explain why.
1. The S5 had poor sales. They want to kick up its popularity and 'apologise' to owners of it by letting them get 5.0 first
2. The note 4 is the only samsung to get 4.4.4 - so it makes sens to get the update last of the modern phones, as its already ahead.
3. it means we get it after the S5 owners work out all the bugs, right now they cant get root working reliably, and no mods or deodexing are even possible.

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Just read this online. French carrier, SFR has revealed the release date for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy S5, and LG G3. Sorry don't know how to paste a link.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...op-software-update-release-schedule-leaks.htm
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This was already posted!!!
Looks like 5 on Note 4...!

johnfranz29 said:
But S5 already start receiving 5.0 update in Poland
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The same thing happened with note 3, Poland an update really early. Then kitkat was given to DBT. Its just a matter of time. There is no need to rush it.

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As has been mentioned , Lollipop thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/looks-5-note-4-t2958215
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No Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsun

According to sammobile there is no Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsung device.
This sux.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/30...he-galaxy-note-4-or-any-other-samsung-device/

toofimoofi said:
According to sammobile there is no Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsung device.
This sux.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/30...he-galaxy-note-4-or-any-other-samsung-device/
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So is that Mean Note 4 doesn't get 5.1x update..?? 5.0x is the last..!

it more than likely just means that they're hell bent on getting 5.0.x out before they even consider the 5.x
unification is important, chances are they will work on 5.x after all *current* product streams are at a base line...

Not now but maybe later. Or has the sd card been unfriendly with the new lollipop system. Anyway 2 years support for all flagship devices as a standard so don't get your hopes down

Also not as big a deal as you might think..
Dont forget the S6 will enter the market with 5.0.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-6849.php
And then there is this article as well:
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_51_might_bring_new_touchwiz_to_samsung_galaxy_note_4-news-11704.php
Its on the road map by the looks of it... just not the bleeding edge of the road map. Not terribly surprising given Samsung's recent focus on KNOX/SAFE and security in general... They wont be bashing out bleeding edge OS updates with a marketed focus on security.

senectus said:
Also not as big a deal as you might think..
Dont forget the S6 will enter the market with 5.0.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-6849.php
And then there is this article as well:
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_51_might_bring_new_touchwiz_to_samsung_galaxy_note_4-news-11704.php
Its on the road map by the looks of it... just not the bleeding edge of the road map. Not terribly surprising given Samsung's recent focus on KNOX/SAFE and security in general... They wont be bashing out bleeding edge OS updates with a marketed focus on security.
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The source of the gsmarena article is from youmobile.org which was bashed by sammobile as untrue.
In my opinion Note 4 will receive 5.1. eventually but it'll never receive the new TW (may be just some minor new feautures). The reason for this is the future sales of s6 and note 5.
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asbozh said:
The source of the gsmarena article is from youmobile.org which was bashed by sammobile as untrue.
In my opinion Note 4 will receive 5.1. eventually but it'll never receive the new TW (may be just some minor new feautures). The reason for this is the future sales of s6 and note 5.
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haha true, but all these "news" or "Leaking" site love to bash each other....
I would take them all with a pinch of salt.. I'd rather focus on why the hell its taking so long for the N910G to get L :-/ its seems like we're the last ones to get it

asbozh said:
The source of the gsmarena article is from youmobile.org which was bashed by sammobile as untrue.
In my opinion Note 4 will receive 5.1. eventually but it'll never receive the new TW (may be just some minor new feautures). The reason for this is the future sales of s6 and note 5.
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We have Great developers in XDA. So someone will port/mod the S6 TW UI for Note 4. Hope more ports would be reached for Note4 in near future :laugh:

mjrifath said:
We have Great developers in XDA. So someone will port/mod the S6 TW UI for Note 4. Hope more ports would be reached for Note4 in near future [emoji23]
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Apparently this was a fib. But we will find out in due course.

toofimoofi said:
According to sammobile there is no Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsung device.
This sux.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/30...he-galaxy-note-4-or-any-other-samsung-device/
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Old news now. I reported this back on the 20th. Welcome to today's media. The small guys reporting the new news and the big guys reporting old news.
http://www.klabouch.com/thequantumself/samsung-yet-to-start-5-1-development/
While I trust my sources you never know. Still let's look at the current rollout and you can see why we are leaning to more the truth.
Reminds me. I should be getting back to that. Haven't reported anything since then.

5.1.1 by end of July according to Sammobile.com

Just saw this: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/01/exclusive-samsung-to-start-rolling-out-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update-to-galaxy-note-4-by-the-end-of-july/
"Google revealed the developer preview of the next big version of its mobile device operating system – Android M – last week during Google I/O 2015, and the release of its final version is due in Q3 2015. Now, you must be thinking if Samsung is too slow in updating its existing smartphones and tablets to the latest version of Android.
Samsung has already improved its software update game starting this year, and it has already rolled out Lollipop update many existing devices. Now, Samsung is already testing beta versions of Android 5.1.1-based ROMs for various existing devices, and we’ve already shown you the upgraded camera app for the Galaxy S6 and the S6 edge that will be released with Android 5.1.1 update for the devices.
Many Galaxy Note 4 users are impatiently waiting for Samsung to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update for the device. Well, here’s some good news for those guys. According to our highly placed sources, Samsung is planning to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update to the Galaxy Note 4 by the end of July. As usual, we will be the first ones to show you the upcoming ROM running on the actual device."
:good:

5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.

ravijani said:
5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.
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Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.

v5.1.1 is FINAL version of Lollipop - no memory management problems

Toss3 said:
Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.
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how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????

ravijani said:
how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????
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"According to our highly placed sources..." (sammobile.com, 2015)
Says so right there. :good:

Good news

Do you also read that the new camera app will come to note 4 aswell?

I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:

very keen to see that!

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.

tmac31 said:
as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.
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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.

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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.
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i still didnt update my old nexus 5. ill try if its that different. i doubt note 5 will have android m out of the box. probably same thing will happen with note 4 and android m will release after note 5. hope it will be perfect on its release time unlike lollipop this year. 5.1.1 should have released as 5.0 last year so all companies could have done the updates fast and perfect.

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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I'm pretty sure that we'll get none of the features you mentioned.

I hope it is not another firmware number change & new theme to be used like the Lollipop 5.0.1
We need full active Lollipop the latest change in toggle, the new camera API 2 with RAW support & the new themes with other Galaxy S6 & Lollipop improvements.
not to forget battery life fix & RAM high usage.
for 32 bit or 64 bit matter I hope they activate 64 bit ability in Exynos version …………… that will be awesome.

Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).

galaxynote2 said:
Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).
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How do you know ? I think IF they're ever going to release camera 2 for the Note 4, they're going to do it with 5.1.1 release
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BTW I honestly feel the 5.1.1 update wasnt all that interesting (the CM users have been on it a while). The Nexus users reported some performance improvements but these were mainly due to kernel changes. So if Samsung did some good work there, it might be interesting. Otherwise, the 5.1.1. update is going to be quite a non event in my opinion.

I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!

bbeelzebub said:
I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!
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[Discussion] Android Marshmallow for Note 4

As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
What do you think?

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As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
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I dont think so we will get the new theme engine.
we could get an improved touchwhiz.
but in 2016 i'll get a note 6.
used all notes from 2 to 4
but due to lack of expandable storage. I'll be skipping note 5. But thanks to rumours. I'm quite positive that it will make a comeback (fingers crossed)

The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.

Shane_Picardo said:
The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...

Kazzko said:
This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...
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Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.

Shane_Picardo said:
Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.
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At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)

sushant1thakran said:
At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)
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Hehe... yea bro! hopefully they would. But sammy has already heading towards 64 bit OS. The exynos note 4 supports 64 bit libs but our snapdragon phone doesn't.

64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4

Shane_Picardo said:
The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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I don't buy android tab or smartphone cause that is the major problem updates are always comes with new smartphones.

Ausboy 2011 said:
64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4
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Hmmm... choice also matters bro. Those who love pure android experience and want latest android versions prefer CM. But as for me, having the latest android version doesn't matter much for me as I love the stock firmware coz there are so many extra options & features that I may not find it on CM. (Not to forget the s-pen features too). Also rooting & installing touchwiz based kernels & roms is like extra icing on the cake! ^_^

Is any news about marshmallow update? Are those release dates official?

hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.

Basheer33 said:
hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.
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Of course it won't, it's going to be the story of S3 and we'll also get it badly optimized, but things will be fixed and ported by someone here, as always.

Now we are with Android 5.1.1 BUT still with the old TouchWize UI except some few visual changes here or their !!!
Samsung policy is always like this .... the older generation get nothing new until the Note 4 is dead officially & removed from Samsung lists.
I sold my Note 4 few months back & I got iPhone 6s (such a cool smartphone), then I decide to buy another Note 4 because of the Stylus I really like to play with it, so I'm keeping mt Note 4 as second phone for my other sim.
accept it like it is, update stuff is not for Samsung or Note 4 enjoy like this way.
if you need fast updates get iPhone (I really recommend it) or Nexus phone, also HTC & LG providing faster updates.

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...get iPhone (I really recommend it)
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Yeah.... :/

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Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.

one-option said:
so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Only those who bought the Note for the Stylus

one-option said:
Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Of topic?
This threat is for note 4 marshmallow update.

From wat i saw in both s5 and note 4 neither s5 nor note 4 will have the new touchwiz , u already mentioned the reason cuz both note 4 and note5 are too close in terms of hardware so as usual Samsung decided to go against it's habit and decided not to port the new touchwiZ to note 4 Just to make sure that note5 sales are doing well , and about 6.1 update for note 4 I doubt it will have it I think android 6.0 is going to the last update for note 4 same as note3 that didn't get android 5.1.1 and left with buggy android 5.0 unfortionatly This is Samsung THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY and ptl dont say That every manfacturer does because they don't do it in Samsung way, anyway I am waiting for the update and if leaks were true that it won't have The latest touchwiz as Samsung used to do with previous notes I will move to another brand mostly the next nexus.

Why is samsung so SLOW with Android 6.0 update?

Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.

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Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.

That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.

Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.

For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.

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For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.

Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16

You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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manishvy said:
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.

It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.

They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.

why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...

umbrokhan said:
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.

They must extend it to Note 5 at least.

Derpling said:
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.

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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen

dr.ketan said:
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!

If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.