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Just got my first random reboot on my N1 that I updated a little bit ago.
It was sitting on the cradle, full power, downloading an update on the market.
..... Not happy it rebooted...
Devastatin said:
Just got my first random reboot on my N1 that I updated a little bit ago.
It was sitting on the cradle, full power, downloading an update on the market.
..... Not happy it rebooted...
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Did you get Gingerbread via OTA or did you install a custom ROM?
KBanause said:
Did you get Gingerbread via OTA or did you install a custom ROM?
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update.zip in stock recovery over completely stock phone.
I haven't rooted nor unlocked this phone, ever (yet).
It happen to me too a few times, with oxygen RC rom. I couldn't identify any pattern on why it rebooted.
Wasn't this reboot issue on the nexus s during an active phone call, and the phone would reboot? Or are there 2 different issues?
Devastatin said:
update.zip in stock recovery over completely stock phone.
I haven't rooted nor unlocked this phone, ever (yet).
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That is bad news
I thought Google would have fixed that bug...
Greetings,
KBanause
My nexus one rebooted randomly twice in the last hour too..
you wouldn't be having this problem if you have patient.
just like google said OTA is coming in few weeks and BE PATIENT!
jboy15 said:
you wouldn't be having this problem if you have patient.
just like google said OTA is coming in few weeks and BE PATIENT!
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Receiving the same update 2 weeks later doesn't mean it was fixed.
So far as I can tell, its only happened once. While market auto updated. It was when i switched notify to do not notify *(for market updates). It may be coincidence that i was doing that at the time.
My gut tells me that a process is dying or being killed and forcing the phone to go into kernel panic and reboot.
Devastatin said:
Receiving the same update 2 weeks later doesn't mean it was fixed.
So far as I can tell, its only happened once. While market auto updated. It was when i switched notify to do not notify *(for market updates). It may be coincidence that i was doing that at the time.
My gut tells me that a process is dying or being killed and forcing the phone to go into kernel panic and reboot.
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interesting...i have disabled this option too...and no reboot
I have been experiencing a rather annoying bug on my S6. After unlocking the screen, sometimes the status bar will not pull down. This happens about 1/5 unlocks. I have to lock the screen again and then unlock for it to work again. Since the status bar is usually the first thing I use after unlocking, this becomes a real pain. I was hoping that the recent update would fix this, but it's still happening.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I couldn't find anything on the forums or Google.
gj13 said:
I have been experiencing a rather annoying bug on my S6. After unlocking the screen, sometimes the status bar will not pull down. This happens about 1/5 unlocks. I have to lock the screen again and then unlock for it to work again. Since the status bar is usually the first thing I use after unlocking, this becomes a real pain. I was hoping that the recent update would fix this, but it's still happening.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I couldn't find anything on the forums or Google.
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Could you please provide additional information about your phone, such as the Base and or ROM?
Maybe try going into Recovery mode and clearing cache, that may resolve it.
Rayman360 said:
Could you please provide additional information about your phone, such as the Base and or ROM?
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Baseband: G920AUCU1AOCE
ROM: Stock unrooted (G920AUCU1AOE2)
Rayman360 said:
Maybe try going into Recovery mode and clearing cache, that may resolve it.
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No recovery, but the cache was cleared after I installed the G920AUCU1AOE2 update.
gj13 said:
Baseband: G920AUCU1AOCE
ROM: Stock unrooted (G920AUCU1AOE2)
No recovery, but the cache was cleared after I installed the G920AUCU1AOE2 update.
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There is the issue right there, your base needs to be G920AUCU1AOE2, your on the older firmware but using the newer ROM. Use Odin to return to stock G920AUCU1AOCE, then do the OTA update from AT&T again. FYI The new PingPong Root still works on the new OTA, if you decide to go that route.
Return to Stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/development/5-16-stock-odin-tar-g920aucu1aoce-t3110182
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There is the issue right there, your base needs to be G920AUCU1AOE2, your on the older firmware but using the newer ROM. Use Odin to return to stock G920AUCU1AOCE, then do the OTA update from AT&T again. FYI The new PingPong Root still works on the new OTA, if you decide to go that route.
Return to Stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/development/5-16-stock-odin-tar-g920aucu1aoce-t3110182
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That doesn't explain why it was happening when I was on the version that it shipped with. They matched at that point. Good suggestion though.
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There is the issue right there, your base needs to be G920AUCU1AOE2, your on the older firmware but using the newer ROM. Use Odin to return to stock G920AUCU1AOCE, then do the OTA update from AT&T again. FYI The new PingPong Root still works on the new OTA, if you decide to go that route.
Return to Stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/development/5-16-stock-odin-tar-g920aucu1aoce-t3110182
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I just updated the baseband to match the software. I'll report back after I use it a bit to see if it happens again. It just happened after I posted that. Ugh x.x
Looks like I'm going to have to factory reset. I was hoping more people would at least vote on the poll -.-
Wireless charging possible cause
It seems like this issue only happens if you use wireless charging. I did a factory reset on the phone and used it for a couple weeks with AC charging and I did not have this issue. As soon as I tried wireless charging again, the issue came right back.
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It seems like this issue only happens if you use wireless charging. I did a factory reset on the phone and used it for a couple weeks with AC charging and I did not have this issue. As soon as I tried wireless charging again, the issue came right back.
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I strictly use wireless charging, so your blanket statement only applies to you. Never had an issue with three different charging pads.
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Hey there,
I got quite a serious problem. Since i updated to 5.1 my phone sometimes suddenly restarts, followed by a message which says "optimizing apps", which ranges from 30 to 150 apps. At first, it was no big problem, now it occures nearly every 10 minutes, so currently i can't really use my phone.
What i tried to do:
Factory reset, reflash 5.0 - 5.1.1 (every single image available)
The problem is still there.
Now my question, is it a Softwareproblem, which will be updated soon (should i try Android M (what about the warranty?))?
Or is it quite a serious hardwareproblem (i read somewhere that it could be because of overused RAM modules)?
I tried to use the searchengine, but i didnt find a specific thread in this subforum.
The optimising is a software issue caused by a random reboots. The reboot itself could be caused by anything though
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The optimising is a software issue caused by a random reboots. The reboot itself could be caused by anything though
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Thank you for your quick reply. I continued reading and as it seems there are quite a number of users with the same problems as me. Although no one has gotten a solution till now. It doesn't matter if it's a Nexus 4, 5 or 6 but all the Nexusphones seem to be affected once updated to 5.1 or newer.
Unluckily sending it in to repair is not a good solution because they told me it would take 2-4 weeks which is not possible for me... How can Google not release a proper update after 5.1.1 which fixes it? Are they so focused about Android M? I still can't overcome myself to install the Android M because i fear to lose my warranty.
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Thank you for your quick reply. I continued reading and as it seems there are quite a number of users with the same problems as me. Although no one has gotten a solution till now. It doesn't matter if it's a Nexus 4, 5 or 6 but all the Nexusphones seem to be affected once updated to 5.1 or newer.
Unluckily sending it in to repair is not a good solution because they told me it would take 2-4 weeks which is not possible for me... How can Google not release a proper update after 5.1.1 which fixes it? Are they so focused about Android M? I still can't overcome myself to install the Android M because i fear to lose my warranty.
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Dude, it's a Nexus. Warranty isn't an issue as long as you return to stock and relock before a warranty claim.
If flashing a factory image didn't fix it, either you're not wiping or formatting the cache correctly or you have a hardware issue.
Don't be so quick to blame Google when thousands of others, myself included, have taken the update without issue.
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Dude, it's a Nexus. Warranty isn't an issue as long as you return to stock and relock before a warranty claim.
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Thanks, I didn't know that.
Evolution_Tech said:
If flashing a factory image didn't fix it, either you're not wiping or formatting the cache correctly or you have a hardware issue.
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I did the factoryreset via fastboot, also i used the nexus toolkit to do a proper stock reset so i don't quite get how it could be an incorrectly done reset. So the hardware just breaks during the updateprocess?
Evolution_Tech said:
Don't be so quick to blame Google when thousands of others, myself included, have taken the update without issue.
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I am usually quite quick in blaming others if there are also many people with excactly the same problem, sudden reboots with app optimization right after the update to 5.1 or 5.1.1, some even before at 5.0 or 5.0.1.
I'm going to try the Android M Update, maybe that will help.
Haabiii said:
Thanks, I didn't know that.
I did the factoryreset via fastboot, also i used the nexus toolkit to do a proper stock reset so i don't quite get how it could be an incorrectly done reset. So the hardware just breaks during the updateprocess?
I am usually quite quick in blaming others if there are also many people with excactly the same problem, sudden reboots with app optimization right after the update to 5.1 or 5.1.1, some even before at 5.0 or 5.0.1.
I'm going to try the Android M Update, maybe that will help.
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Personally, I'd boot to bootloader and do:
fastboot format cache
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Personally, I'd boot to bootloader and do:
fastboot format cache
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Already done and i also reflashed the whole cache image. I hope the Android 6 Update will help solve my issues. The problem is, that i usually get really upset about little stuff like that just because i don't get why it's happening.
I updated monday evening to the Android M Preview, for now it only restarted once to, as it said, install a update (?), since then no reboot at all. It worked like a charm yesterday. I really hope the problem is fixed that way.
Just wanted to let you know if you have a same problem.
Ok, I have been searching for a couple of weeks now but I have not found a soulution. I recently recieved a replacement Note 4. I updated it to Lollipop, then rooted and flashed Rapture.
Ever since, I have been experiencing random reboots and the occasional loss of data. This is not a Rapture problem it appears. I have had the issue with both versions of the Rapture Lollipop builds, DarthStalker, and stock Deodexed COD6. I did not have this problem on my last Note 4 which had the first Rapture build on it.
I have factory reset, I have Odined back to stock and repeated the rooting process, following the guides posted here to the letter and I still have the problem. Any help in resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.
KingBeef said:
Ok, I have been searching for a couple of weeks now but I have not found a soulution. I recently recieved a replacement Note 4. I updated it to Lollipop, then rooted and flashed Rapture.
Ever since, I have been experiencing random reboots and the occasional loss of data. This is not a Rapture problem it appears. I have had the issue with both versions of the Rapture Lollipop builds, DarthStalker, and stock Deodexed COD6. I did not have this problem on my last Note 4 which had the first Rapture build on it.
I have factory reset, I have Odined back to stock and repeated the rooting process, following the guides posted here to the letter and I still have the problem. Any help in resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.
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Seeing that it's happening on so many different Roms; it's something you're installing on your device.
Does it happen on a fresh stock rooted COD6 with nothing installed 3rd party?
I have not tried a stock run without third party apps installed. I will try a fresh install of stock COD6 with root and see how that fairs. It normally happens the first time within an hour of flashing so it won't take long to see if it happens I believe.
I was getting one or two random reboots a day after updating to LP. I noticed most reboots happened after I finish or during use of Google All Access. I have a lot of tracks stored on my SD cards. Once I refreshed the tacks [in all access settings], I haven't has a reboot since.
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Seeing that it's happening on so many different Roms; it's something you're installing on your device.
Does it happen on a fresh stock rooted COD6 with nothing installed 3rd party?
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So I tried stock rooted without third party apps installed. Got 2 reboots but no loss of data. Seems like it's something with the device itself or should I try just running without root?
dkb218 said:
I was getting one or two random reboots a day after updating to LP. I noticed most reboots happened after I finish or during use of Google All Access. I have a lot of tracks stored on my SD cards. Once I refreshed the tacks [in all access settings], I haven't has a reboot since.
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I wish it was something that simple. The only consistency I am getting in terms of reproducing it is trying to multitasking and possibly having too many apps running in the background, but sometimes it happens with just 2 or 3 apps running so I am not sure.
What's really annoying about it all is the first unit I had ran flawlessly, even after the 5.0 update.
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I wish it was something that simple. The only consistency I am getting in terms of reproducing it is trying to multitasking and possibly having too many apps running in the background, but sometimes it happens with just 2 or 3 apps running so I am not sure.
What's really annoying about it all is the first unit I had ran flawlessly, even after the 5.0 update.
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Does your device get really hot right before it does the random reboots? Could be thermal function of the Note 4. 805SOC is a very hot chip albeit not as bad as the 810 but pretty dang close if you ask me!!! If no heat issues then see below
Give this a try:
This will require you to Odin to COD6 Stock NO ROOT!!!
Shut down and take out your External SDCard.
Boot into TWRP or Flash TWRP if you don't have it on there right now
Do a FULL WIPE: Factory Reset 3x, Advanced Wipe(Everything there) 3x, and finally Format Data(where you have to type yes) 3x
Power off your device and start it up into Download mode and Odin COD6 Stock Firmware(the full one not the partial)
Let it do it's thing and then simply use the device for a few hours on just pure stock.
DO NOT INSERT YOUR SD CARD!!! Why? We want to make sure it isn't something on your card causing Indexing to hang and force reboot.
If you get no reboots then go ahead and shutdown and insert your SDCard and use your device. Still no reboots? Then go ahead and Root. Still no reboots? It's resolved.
This process of elimination is lengthy but it is effective.
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Does your device get really hot right before it does the random reboots? Could be thermal function of the Note 4. 805SOC is a very hot chip albeit not as bad as the 810 but pretty dang close if you ask me!!! If no heat issues then see below
Give this a try:
This will require you to Odin to COD6 Stock NO ROOT!!!
Shut down and take out your External SDCard.
Boot into TWRP or Flash TWRP if you don't have it on there right now
Do a FULL WIPE: Factory Reset 3x, Advanced Wipe(Everything there) 3x, and finally Format Data(where you have to type yes) 3x
Power off your device and start it up into Download mode and Odin COD6 Stock Firmware(the full one not the partial)
Let it do it's thing and then simply use the device for a few hours on just pure stock.
DO NOT INSERT YOUR SD CARD!!! Why? We want to make sure it isn't something on your card causing Indexing to hang and force reboot.
If you get no reboots then go ahead and shutdown and insert your SDCard and use your device. Still no reboots? Then go ahead and Root. Still no reboots? It's resolved.
This process of elimination is lengthy but it is effective.
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I can't say that I have noticed it in the past, however, it froze up shortly after I read the email notification of your response and was quite warm towards the top half. I pulled the battery expecting it to reboot anyway. Is there anyway to mitigate the thermal affect if it is indeed the culprit?
I will try the second method this evening and see if there's any change in behavior and report back sometime tomorrow. Thank you for your assistance with this.
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I can't say that I have noticed it in the past, however, it froze up shortly after I read the email notification of your response and was quite warm towards the top half. I pulled the battery expecting it to reboot anyway. Is there anyway to mitigate the thermal affect if it is indeed the culprit?
I will try the second method this evening and see if there's any change in behavior and report back sometime tomorrow. Thank you for your assistance with this.
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Yes but it is not recommended. Using Synapse from the playstore will do such a thing but it requires a custom Kernel. If it is a thermal issue your device may be defective seeing that it's spiking so much so quickly and just crashing.
Definitely give the process of elimination a try that I suggest in my previous post. If it fails at the first step of being pure stock no SDCard then I'm afraid you need a new device.
Hi KingBeef,
Unfortunately, I have the exact same issues you do. Except I've tried literally everything. Even Odin back to stock KitKat. Seems to reboot or randomly shut off if more than 3-4 apps are running at completely random times. No SD card as well to confirm it's not that. The only difference I see with your situation is my phone will degrade after 3rd day of use. First 2 days are flawless, then almost like a failing hard drive, things start to domino progressively worse. My last attempt was to run it only in wifi mode, no SIM card.
The only thing left is to consider unfortunately is swapping again under warranty. I myself am waiting until I go back to the US (Cad user here) to swap with TMo for another handset.
Good luck!
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So I was running CF 1.3 base for quite a while with no issues. Two days ago my phone shut down on me and would not boot. I wipe everything multiple times. I wiped cache. I did a factory reset, nothing... I wiped again. Nothing.
It gets past the Motorola logo and then just sits at the boot screen. A couple of times it would say updating android, it would finish, but then it would go right back to the boot screen. After about 8 hours it finally booted and I used it all day yesterday. This morning my issue is back. I've flashed different images to see if it has something to do with 1.3. It's all the same. I think I might try to go back to kit kat. It seems to be a software problem, but I am starting to think that something most be wrong with my hardware.
I found this thread: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/b0021413e7
I think my phone is shot... Any ideas?
When I had my Razr Maxx I had an issue that was similar and nothing I tried would fix it. Factory reset cache wipe flashing different roms nothing. Finally I decided to factory restore it with RSD Lite and after that the problem went away and I was able to do everything again like normal. I don't know why a factory reset wouldn't fix it and that did but it did.
Thanks. That is my next step. Do you know where I can find the RSD image?
Is this what I need? http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...quark-stock-firmware-moto-maxx-droid-t3063470
Do I need to worry about flashing radios and stuff back to 4.4.4?
Seems to be. Honestly I've used it on many Motorolas in the past but I haven't read much about using RSDlite on the turbo. I would just do some googling around I'm sure you'll find it
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So I was running CF 1.3 base for quite a while with no issues. Two days ago my phone shut down on me and would not boot. I wipe everything multiple times. I wiped cache. I did a factory reset, nothing... I wiped again. Nothing.
It gets past the Motorola logo and then just sits at the boot screen. A couple of times it would say updating android, it would finish, but then it would go right back to the boot screen. After about 8 hours it finally booted and I used it all day yesterday. This morning my issue is back. I've flashed different images to see if it has something to do with 1.3. It's all the same. I think I might try to go back to kit kat. It seems to be a software problem, but I am starting to think that something most be wrong with my hardware.
I found this thread: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/b0021413e7
I think my phone is shot... Any ideas?
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This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.
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This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.
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That makes sense, after I finally got mine going, I updated Moto Actions and all the other apps it crashed again in about 12 hours. If I can finally get it to boot again, I think I am going to test your theory. If you figure out how to get it booted again, please share!
Edit, which rootjunky image did you flash? SU2-12?
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That makes sense. Like an idiot, after I finally got mine going, I updated Moto Actions and it crashed again. If I can finally get it to boot again, I think I am going to test your theory. If you figure out how to get it booted again, please share!
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I did get it booted again. I flashed the kitkat update (not the stock, stock update 1, which is what you should be on if you're using mofo) file on the firmware thread that was posted here using the version of RSDlite that was posted there. The key is just to wait a really, really long time. Even if the screen goes black, it could potentially still be booting, especially if the back of the phone gets warm. I left it plugged in, let it get to the boot animation and left the house for several hours, and when I got back it appeared to be functional, but things were slow and choppy at times and my home button didn't work. The settings menu from the pull down menu didn't work either. I had to access settings from the app drawer. I tried a factory reset from the settings menu, and that just re-broke everything. So now I'm back at square one. I re-flashed the same image using RSDlite again, and now I've waited about 10 minutes and I'm still looking at the boot screen, which at this point is normal since the problem occurred.
I got a hold of an old copy of the Motorola Sensor Services apk. As far as I can tell, this is the apk that is replaced by Moto Actions, which according to Google Play is only compatible with 5.0 and above. My plan for tonight is to wait until the thing decides to boot, attempt to start the stock Sensor Services app and get it to do the sensor firmware uninstall that I mentioned in my other post. If that doesn't work, I'm going to try to install the apk that I found and see if I have any more luck with that. I'll report back here when I get a chance to do that. Let me know if you figure out a solution.
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That makes sense, after I finally got mine going, I updated Moto Actions and all the other apps it crashed again in about 12 hours. If I can finally get it to boot again, I think I am going to test your theory. If you figure out how to get it booted again, please share!
Edit, which rootjunky image did you flash? SU2-12?
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Yeah, I used SU2-12.
I followed the procedure outlined here to go back to stock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6avEPGWB8E0 I used the SU2-12 file, but I lost everything... Thanks for the help. I hope there is a fix for this soon! I'll test your idea about MOTO Actions and report.
Edit: Well, I thought my phone was booting when I wrote the above, but it has been 30 minutes and it has not booted...
So, I can get it to boot - although it is not easy and it takes me like 30 minutes and I haven't found a full proof method yet, but after it goes to sleep I have to start the process all over. It has been a frustrating 3 days.
TheSt33v said:
This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.
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I think you are onto something. I'm currently on 4.4.4 and it is bone stock. When I go into the Play Store it shows that I have Moto Actions installed, but when I click on the app it says that it is not compatible with my device. I've tried wiping the data from the app, force closing it, and clearing the cache. None of that has prompted me to uninstall the sensors. By the way, I found the Moto sensors app and tried doing the same thing, no luck.
So, I think I have the 5.1 Moto Actions installed still, which is causing the 4.4.4 image to freak out. I've thought about trying to go official 5.1 and see if that fixes it, but since I have a replacement on the way, think I might just leave it be - unless someone (like you) figures this thing out.
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I think you are onto something. I'm currently on 4.4.4 and it is bone stock. When I go into the Play Store it shows that I have Moto Actions installed, but when I click on the app it says that it is not compatible with my device. I've tried wiping the data from the app, force closing it, and clearing the cache. None of that has prompted me to uninstall the sensors. By the way, I found the Moto sensors app and tried doing the same thing, no luck.
So, I think I have the 5.1 Moto Actions installed still, which is causing the 4.4.4 image to freak out. I've thought about trying to go official 5.1 and see if that fixes it, but since I have a replacement on the way, think I might just leave it be - unless someone (like you) figures this thing out.
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I ended up getting a replacement from Motorola too. If it has 5.1 on it, I'll sell it and get one with 4.4.4. Thanks a lot for the tip, by the way. I might still work on it just as a hobby, but I'm out of ideas. Of all the many, many devices I've tinkered with, this is the first one that I ever permanently messed up, so I'd like to fix it as a matter of pride, but I now only have 48 hours to do so. After looking at logcats, the partition table of the phone and the androidmanifest.xml of the motorola sensor services apk, I'm pretty much certain that this app writes those sensor drivers to a partition other than the ones that get flashed when we up/downgrade (ie system, boot, recovery, etc.), which is why these processes don't fix the problem. Theoretically, if I knew which partition that was, I could find someone with a working Turbo who could dump that image, and if I get lucky and it's a partition that isn't sig checked by the bootloader (like the radios, for example), I could flash that and be good to go. I have no idea how to figure out which partition that would be, though. The obvious choice was the "firmware" partition, but that partition has a lot of drivers that seem to relate to lots of different important things, so messing with that seems scary. I also don't know anyone who is knowledgeable enough to generate that image (myself included), so it's a moot point.
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I ended up getting a replacement from Motorola too. If it has 5.1 on it, I'll sell it and get one with 4.4.4. Thanks a lot for the tip, by the way. I might still work on it just as a hobby, but I'm out of ideas. Of all the many, many devices I've tinkered with, this is the first one that I ever permanently messed up, so I'd like to fix it as a matter of pride, but I now only have 48 hours to do so. After looking at logcats, the partition table of the phone and the androidmanifest.xml of the motorola sensor services apk, I'm pretty much certain that this app writes those sensor drivers to a partition other than the ones that get flashed when we up/downgrade (ie system, boot, recovery, etc.), which is why these processes don't fix the problem. Theoretically, if I knew which partition that was, I could find someone with a working Turbo who could dump that image, and if I get lucky and it's a partition that isn't sig checked by the bootloader (like the radios, for example), I could flash that and be good to go. I have no idea how to figure out which partition that would be, though. The obvious choice was the "firmware" partition, but that partition has a lot of drivers that seem to relate to lots of different important things, so messing with that seems scary. I also don't know anyone who is knowledgeable enough to generate that image (myself included), so it's a moot point.
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My question is why hasn't anyone else's device gotten borked since the update? I've had it since the update was distributed with no issues and use Moto Actions continuously. Seems like if it really is a combination of writing drivers to a partition that isn't compatible it would be a universal issue. If only 2 people who have a mofo'd 5.1 IMG (out of probably hundreds) experienced issues my bet is on some weird glitch that occured when you initially flashed the updated firmware to get 5.1 working on the mofo'd device, rather than some general driver incompatibility.
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My question is why hasn't anyone else's device gotten borked since the update? I've had it since the update was distributed with no issues and use Moto Actions continuously. Seems like if it really is a combination of writing drivers to a partition that isn't compatible it would be a universal issue. If only 2 people who have a mofo'd 5.1 IMG (out of probably hundreds) experienced issues my bet is on some weird glitch that occured when you initially flashed the updated firmware to get 5.1 working on the mofo'd device, rather than some general driver incompatibility.
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I agree. Either it was a corrupt driver installation that worked just well enough for the app not to realize it, or the firmware update happens silently only when requested (similar to Google play services), and we're all one chop chop flashlight away from a phone apocalypse. Hopefully it's the former.
So, I went ahead and updated my device to official 5.1 and the problem is still there. The moto actions app that is installed still says that it is not compatible with my phone. I have cant figure out how to clear it or delete it or anything. And when I think I have it, I let the phone sleep and I can't bring it back to life again without waiting for a 15 min+ boot. Oh well, at least the bootloader says "official" now rather than "modified." So, Motorola should not complain about it. Thanks for trying to figure it out @TheSt33v
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So, I went ahead and updated my device to official 5.1 and the problem is still there. The moto actions app that is installed still says that it is not compatible with my phone. I have cant figure out how to clear it or delete it or anything. And when I think I have it, I let the phone sleep and I can't bring it back to life again without waiting for a 15 min+ boot. Oh well, at least the bootloader says "official" now rather than "modified." So, Motorola should not complain about it. Thanks for trying to figure it out @TheSt33v
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Good to know. I picked the $25 option specifically because the free one requires an inspection, but I'll probably update it anyway. I'm not surprised that it didn't solve the problem though. When we flash those upgrade/downgrade images, we're basically just doing manually what RSD lite/Verizon upgrade agent does automatically.
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This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.[/QUOTE]
you called it! Just spent 2 hours reflashing 1.3 first repeated V4A, then Base. flashing sick Android upon Recovery attempt, FAIL. reflashed radios and such and with different "vol& pwr" sequence was able to get in to wipe cache. Not hat it would help me but i viewed chche Logs and im wondering if, to the right person, it would help to have copies of them?? It's a bunch of pages tho and and not sure if it would help.
My plan it to, in Recovery, Factory wipe, then reboot to Bootloader and attempt to flash base. W/ all sys.img's, then wipe caches again. ihave read the whole thread early yesterday morning but i fell asleep prob 20 times during. it was like 3 ishi think SO, i'll now go re read probably to find that you've already ruled out "my plan"
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TheSt33v said:
This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.[/QUOTE]
you called it! Just spent 2 hours reflashing 1.3 first repeated V4A, then Base. flashing sick Android upon Recovery attempt, FAIL. reflashed radios and such and with different "vol& pwr" sequence was able to get in to wipe cache. Not hat it would help me but i viewed chche Logs and im wondering if, to the right person, it would help to have copies of them?? It's a bunch of pages tho and and not sure if it would help.
My plan it to, in Recovery, Factory wipe, then reboot to Bootloader and attempt to flash base. W/ all sys.img's, then wipe caches again. ihave read the whole thread early yesterday morning but i fell asleep prob 20 times during. it was like 3 ishi think SO, i'll now go re read probably to find that you've already ruled out "my plan"
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Damn. I was hoping I was wrong. Yeah, I did what you suggested many, many times. If you end up reflashing 4.4.4 and you see the message to uninstall the sensor firmware, do it and FLASH NOTHING ELSE until a solution is found. If not, it's really easy to get a new one from Motorola.
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TheSt33v said:
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Damn. I was hoping I was wrong. Yeah, I did what you suggested many, many times. If you end up reflashing 4.4.4 and you see the message to uninstall the sensor firmware, do it and FLASH NOTHING ELSE until a solution is found. If not, it's really easy to get a new one from Motorola.
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O Jeez, xda gave me a " token timed out message" but only after I hit post reply and, it was a novel! I have to get at least 2.5 hours sleep tonight because that been normal lately. Besides setting up Moto functionality, I'm golden and I do have their updates blocked best I can anyway. Hope all is working.
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O Jeez, xda gave me a " token timed out message" but only after I hit post reply and, it was a novel! I have to get at least 2.5 hours sleep tonight because that been normal lately. Besides setting up Moto functionality, I'm golden and I do have their updates blocked best I can anyway. Hope all is working.
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Awesome! Well I managed to fix it too, Moto functionality included!!!! I'll explain on my other thread.
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What was the solution that found? I'm going through the same problem.