Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
I.m lookimg forward for M. BUT I love my N4 with lollipop so it wont be end of days for me if we dont get M N4 with L is all that i wanted from a phone.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
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You're right, it was about the dev previews. I hope we will know more by the end of the I/O. Would be a shame if they aren't gonna update the Nexus 4 as the hardware seems completely capable of handling Android M (i don't really notice a lot of a difference in performance even comparing my 2.5 year old encrypted N4 to a brand new Galaxy S6).
You probably can't really compare a Nexus device with an Apple device though, Apple generally seems a lot more consumer-friendly in that regard (also in terms of repairs and so on). The rumors for Google were, that Android devices will get the newest Android updates for 2 years, and security updates for another year after that. Let's see if this turns out to be true or not..
Nexus support periods are going very rigid.. N4 most likely won't get M. Time to buy a new phone I guess.
We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
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This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
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Yep, only Nexus 5 and 7 2013 got the L preview, but N7 2012 and N4 ended up getting the Lollipop update in the end.
Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61029121&postcount=39169
If not a port of a factory image, the Nexus 4 will still get custom ROM support with M. If Devs can build CM12.1 on devices that never got past Jellybean, getting M on the Nexus 4 should be a cinch in comparison.
I'd be surprised if the N4 got official M from Google. The word is that from now on Nexuses will get 2 years of updates. Us N4 owners are just lucky that we were given a device so awesome it's still capable and relevant 2.5 (and counting) years later.
It would be awesome if we get it....there no question of the hardware being capable as there are no major changes, i guess.
@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
Nexus 4 officially will NOT get M
https://plus.google.com/+AndreasProschofsky/posts/eH5z8VzqKfB
It's time to say bye for Nexus 4
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@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
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From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
Come on Señor
Relax, gonna be just fine, n4 and n7 2013 use nearly same proprietary blobs (not just gpu, but gps and NFC), so porting that to n4 will be piece of cake.
From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
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I doubt it'll even be 10%. M is nothing half as major as L.
It is almost certain that we won't get official M. We n4 users were lucky to get 5.1, not just ending at 5.0.
However, high quality ports from N7 or N5 will be available(imo). We won't have any trouble with custom rom support.
I am sure an awesome dev with help us out. Heck, my screen on my Galaxy S 4G (yes, prior to the S2) cracked last fall, I was running 4.4.4 ports on hardware with the terrible stats of the SGS4G thanks to the dev Ninjas at XDA.
I have no worries that while we might not get factory, we will get an as good, if not better port.
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Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.
Will Google ends support for 2 year old nexus 7..??
Can we see next major android version (4.5/5.0) for our grouper..??
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Official will probably stop when the last revision of KitKat is released. However no one really knows but Google. Worst case in a week after 4.5 or 5.0 is released (if those are to be believed) source will be pushed to AOSP and everyone here will be building ROMs.
I mean even my old Kindle Fire (otter) runs Pac-Man 4.4.2...
While my Nexus 5 and 7 (2012 grouper) are both running 4.4.3
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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I hear you there
But I have hope
Our Nexus 7 will prevail through it all!
Maybe then we will have some brave soul working on Nvidia 3.4.35 kernel for tegra3
This can be a good starting point
this is the last update.....
Very likely the last update, though people don't have the same upgrade path for tablets that they do for phones, you won't necessarily change it as regularly.
It's not like your contract is up after 2 years and you get another one.
I'm not planning on getting another tablet any time soon, so longer support would be great, though I doubt it'll happen.
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Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
calyxim said:
Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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:highfive: 4.3 was a very solid version. When I put my Nexus 4 back in daily driver service for a short while, 4.4 had been out for some time, but I went to 4.3 due to the reliability and smooth feel...
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
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nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
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correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
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correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
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You're wrong.
You can still find Nexus 7 2012 for sale... not at Google Play, however.
IMHO - the last KitKat update will be the end of service life for Nexus 7 2012. N7 2013 will get through the L named release.
Looking very much like 4.4.3 will be the last 'official' update, based on the below news...
4.4.3 is running well on my N7, so can't complain too much, plus there are plenty of custom ROMs and mods to play with. Just wonder how this will affect future custom ROMs/ports as they will be created to run with ART and so possibly a no-go... :crying:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-next-major-version-of-android-to-finally-remove-dalvik-and-set-art-as-default/
I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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I think we may get the 4.4.4
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We only had the 4.4.3 only for a few weeks
Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop before Nexus 5 owners do And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop. And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
Sigh. Did you forget we got a dev preview(s)? Did you miss the memo about there being bugs and that that's why it's delayed? A nexus device will still always be pure android. So no, I don't care that other OEM's are pushing it out faster. If fact that's a good thing for Android. For years Google has been trying to do what you're complaining about. It's only a week or two. In fact I hope it still happens, just so I can be amused by threads such as this.
I'd imagine all future incremental releases come faster to the nexus line than oems ...so I'll just wait...plan on getting a nexus 6 anyways...and who knows how long that will take lol
I think its a good thing OEMs are pushing out Android L so quickly.... so many OEMs don't update there phones at all or if they do its 5-7 months after a new release of android. In my opinion this is great news for Android. I would rather Google sit on the Lollipop for N5 and get the bugs resolved first then release it. Even if it means a month. I mean we have had the Dev preview since June, after all this time is it going to kill anyone to wait a little longer? I think everyone needs to calm down. I am enjoying this build of Lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-lpv-dev-n5-enhanced-t2856934/page796
And it has been running excellent. So big thank you to al the devs who are working hard on these Android L roms. And when Google get official L out there we will all benefit from it, but in good time when Google feels its in tip top shape for the masses.
We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
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We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
I bought a N5 because it was a great price and I like pure Android. Is it really that big a deal that some other phone got updated a few days before the N5 did? People get way too nuts over updates. The N5 will have it soon, I promise.
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First world problems.......
I didn't buy it to be first to get updates....I bought it as a great value smartphone first and foremost, it still regardless of updates you know
I didn't buy it for the updates. I'm not upset by others releasing a bugged aosp source. It is a good thing for the ecosystem that the OEMS are releasing updates so quickly. Would you rather have update after quick update due to bugs, or one pretty solid release. No other line of devices got the official previews. The latest preview has been stable for a daily driver!
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
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You should also read more closely. The article you are getting your information clearly stated lg is trying it in Poland not the US out any other major market.
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If you want to know the reason why I bought a nexus 5? I will answer this in Nov 2015 when Android M comes out and again we wait for its release on our nexus 5s(in 4-5 weeks) while other OEM flagship phones of current age wait in doubt of the release(4-5 months). I bought the device for it's solid software support, not necessarily faster but a solid 2-3 year support official support and most probably a 5 year community support. But then again most people sell the devices 2-3 years down the line.
It's not about other devices getting OTAs faster it's about getting the better of them all. I know this had been mentioned a couple of times before but LG G3 and the Moto X got a test release, something which we received 3-4months back I believe. Google does not abandon it's nexus range device without a proper goodbye.
There are more important things in the world.
It's really rather whether any device has an update. The reason for the delay is known, who would like Lollipop may already have run long.
And then I buy a Nexus because I like Nexus and not to previously have an update maybe a few days. Envy is something really repulsive.
Don't compare 2013 device with 2014 device.
If you really want to compare, please compare LG G3 vs Nexus 6 for 2014, which one is faster to get Lollipop.
2013 devices are LG G2 vs Nexus 5. Which one is faster? :silly:
Are you kidding??!!!!You could install it from 6 month ago.
LG g3 didn't receive anything yet. Just because there was an announcement doesn't mean its released. Besides I hear the nexus 5 gets it on the 12th
I would not trade my nexus 5 for an LG g. Besides, I have been running android l for months. Sure, it's great that os like lg and Motorola are taking the available 5.0 software and porting it to their devices, this is great for everyone.... but that software they are using is no further forward than is currently available for nexus devices.... They aren't getting a finished version.
What's the point in buying a nexus? That's something only you can decide for yourself. Buy what ever takes your fancy at the time
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I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
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For me faster updates were the most important thing than came the hardware specs..
The real question is when will the g2 get the updates g3 being the latest and greatest from LG is getting the update but the older devices will not get it for some time. However the nexus 4 and 5 are not the latest still they will get the update very soon. So if you plan on getting the latest flagship devices you don't need to worry about updates that much but if you plan on keeping your device for a few years nexus is still a great proposition.
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12 of November
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/572117/20141109/nexus-5-7-10-android-0-lollipop.htm#.VGB55PmG9E8
this is fast enought
I'm looking into getting the nexus 6 and was just trolling through the nex6 forums taking a look at developement..... And geeezzzz what happened to the names of ROMs like we had in the good ole days. I.e. OPEN KANG, CM-__, PACMAN, AOSP, NEXUQUE, PARANOID ANDROID, MIUI. You know the names we all were used to seeing. Now it seems like the names are all spoken in code or something. Check out the screen shot. Hard to tell what you're getting unless you go exploring each ROM post and check out the mods and screenshots.
You're right.
We GFlex users that haven't flashed any roms in a while when you get another phone you get scared from all these new roms with weird names. You gotta check every post to see if its based on stock/aosp/cm/pac or if its just a debloated rom. Info is just not as it used to be.
Alex_XV6700 said:
You're right.
We GFlex users that haven't flashed any roms in a while when you get another phone you get scared from all these new roms with weird names. You gotta check every post to see if its based on stock/aosp/cm/pac or if its just a debloated rom. Info is just not as it used to be.
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Yep the days of bootstrap recoveries and safestrap are gone. I fear that fastboot will soon fall by the way side too, with all these devices comimg with download mode and flashing with lg tools and Odin. Im going back to Motorola to get a taste of the good ole fastboot flash system ".......". My nexus 7 (2013) is so simple with multi-rom that I rarely need to open up the cmd prompt and " adb " anything.
Wait!!!
Are we giving up on this incredible phone?
I can't speak for anyone else but I've been eligible for an upgrade for over a year now, and have been sticking around 1. Cuz I do like the phone / durability. And 2. To help out and hopefully see a CM or AOSP ROM working on this device. But I gotta see what all the hype is about with these new snapdragon 64 bit processors and 4 gigs or ram is all about. I'm really trying to be patient and wait on the new nexus 6.2 as I heard it called. Not sure if that's the official name. Its all still rumors I believe. But its supposedly the next version of nexus 6 but 64 bit. To keep up with Samsung and lg's release of 64 bit devices.
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I can't speak for anyone else but I've been eligible for an upgrade for over a year now, and have been sticking around 1. Cuz I do like the phone / durability. And 2. To help out and hopefully see a CM or AOSP ROM working on this device. But I gotta see what all the hype is about with these new snapdragon 64 bit processors and 4 gigs or ram is all about. I'm really trying to be patient and wait on the new nexus 6.2 as I heard it called. Not sure if that's the official name. Its all still rumors I believe. But its supposedly the next version of nexus 6 but 64 bit. To keep up with Samsung and lg's release of 64 bit devices.
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I heard there will be a revamp of the Nexus 5 device...
Supossedly LG and Huawei were in dispute to seek for who wins the making of the ¨second gen Nexus 5¨
This would be awesome, though I love my GFlex cuz of battery life and durability too, my G3 just died on me last week :crying: :crying: havent revived it so, Im back with the Flex, hope to see a CM or AOSP build sooner than later.
Good luck with the Motorolas, I´ve had nothing more than great experience with motorola smartphones, owned Atrix 1, 2 and HD, Droid XT912 and Droid HD, awesome phones all of them!
OK maybe its the nexus 5 revamp and not nexus 6. I could have been wrong. Either way , pure aosp on a nexus device sure would be nice. I rarely get to play around with my nexus 7 (2013) since its been integrated into my dash and used as my head unit now. It comes out once a month or so just to flash an update or new ROM to keep things running smooth.
Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
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Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
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Oh come on... Another one..
Stop with wasting your time, Google doesn't care about how much people would like to have an official Android N release for their Nexus 5. They have given us the promised support time for Android updates, they owe us nothing. We already had that guy who started a petition which is pointless because Google probably won't even see it. So quit this BS and just keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best. You won't be able to make sure that Google will give the Nexus 5 just one more update, they may will or maybe not.
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Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
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Google gives every Nexus device 2 years of support on average. I wouldn't call that "nearly no time enjoying official support". They're unlikely to even consider a request to update a device that reached it's EOL for major updates almost a year ago. The unofficial development community for this device continues to thrive nevertheless, so you will most likely get an unofficial N build that's more than good enough for daily use.
This device had its time, but it EOL now. It'll still have unofficial updates for a foreseeable future, but if official updates matter more, then you'll need to move to a newer device. Personally, I don't really care too much about the support because if I did, I would have bought a N5X instead of the N5 a couple months back when I had the choice.
dont worry cm and aosp will not let us down , just keep the faith
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I'm going to wait and see what happens on the official updates front for Android N. Personally, I'd like to see it for the Nexus 5 but if it doesn't roll out for this phone right now, I'll probably be going to Cyanogenmod. That's what I'm running now because I cannot stand the Layers app. Prefer CM Themes to Layers.
Cindy
If Google provides Android N, they will feel obliged to support it with N bug fixes. This will force support for another six months as bugs are ironed out.
Why do you need to call Google? We have used our official support time which is 2-years. Also, do we need their official support? CM is with us.
Android N Preview 4 (NPD56N) for Nexus 5
See link - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead-kernel/+/android-n-preview-4
and - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead/+/android-n-preview-4
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Android N Preview 4 (NPD56N) for Nexus 5
See link - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead-kernel/+/android-n-preview-4
and - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead/+/android-n-preview-4
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whoa!! is this correct?
did i just look at the posted kernel and image for android N for nexus 5 - hammerhead?
if this is indeed correct, maybe the nexus 5 - hammerhead will get android N then.
This was available for 2 weeks. N5 receives all the N-preview branches. Now'll be released one of two beta's, we'll see if some of source'll be available for our phones
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This was available for 2 weeks. N5 receives all the N-preview branches. Now'll be released one of two beta's, we'll see if some of source'll be available for our phones
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Good news! :good:
Bad news. Developer prewiew 5 is out. N5 didn't receive it.
Отправлено с моего Nexus 5 через Tapatalk
N4 received final LP preview when Lollipop have nearly final stage? No. We need to wait one month more.
Ok, I definitely didn't post this. Someone might have used my Nexus 5 and post this. Even though it racks up quite a conversation for you guys, don't say I'm stupid whatsoever, cus it wasn't me! If you think it IS me, that's your business, and I don't care. I'm telling the truth.
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Ok, I definitely didn't post this. Someone might have used my Nexus 5 and post this. Even though it racks up quite a conversation for you guys, don't say I'm stupid whatsoever, cus it wasn't me! If you think it IS me, that's your business, and I don't care. I'm telling the truth.
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Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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Maybe because with the improvements to Doze and background processing, the Nexus 5's battery life would see significant improvements?
Cor-master said:
Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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Another one saying things they know nothing about. You can't guarantee anyone what you said. You know nothing for sure like everyone else.
Yes it will be very unlikely that the nexus get's one more update but it may will happen, there is a small chance.
Oh yeah it'll get it because you know the 2012 nexuses totally got marshmallow from Google last year /sarcasm.