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[Q] root and updates

Hi! I have little questions...
1) I think is a stupid one: if I root my phone, can I install updates normally, or I have to flash them in a strange way (CMW recovery) ?
2) And if the answer is "yes", I have to do again and again the root's process (every time I do an update)? It means that every update does a sort of "unroot"..
3) And last question, it is not important, but I want to root my phone because I want to install this app that needs root.. i think is not very useful, but is great
Do you know apps that are very useful, and it need root permissions to work? (if I have to root my device only for 1 app, I won't do! )
suggest me please!

1) you can flash new firmwares with Flashtool
2) yes, you need to repeat the rooting procedure
3) bucketloads of them, my favs are Titanium Backup (great for backing up apps) and Paragon NTFS (can read NTFS drives, including disks connected to OTG)
And why is rooting the phone for 1 app a problem? If you want to use that one app, go for it. Not to mention that with rooting you can remove bloatware or unnecessary system apps

robogo1982 said:
Not to mention that with rooting you can remove bloatware or unnecessary system apps
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You can also just flash a stock ROM without rooting, which will get rid of bloatware.

1)it should look for your bootloader(BL) is locked or unlocked ,if your BL is locked ,you can update normally via PCC or SUS
otherwise you can't update normally and you have to flash new firmewares
2)yes ,you have to root again after update your phone
3) LMT will ask your root permission ,if you are not rooted ,LMT will work with Home function ONLY ,so root is needed to run LMT perfectly
i'm using LMT too ,same reason i choose to root my phone ,CAUTION that you don't unlock your BL ,because you will lost warranty and BE2 ,so be aware of
your BL.

root/install custom rom without PC/Odin.

For those who do not have access to a computer I achieved root on Kit Kat without a PC by following these steps :
All needed items will be linked below.
Root device using kingroot (will not trip Knox) if you are only wanting root for basic root apps (greenify etc.) then this is all you need to do. Have fun! (Just remember anything that changes the /system partition significantly such as xposed will trip Knox.)
To install superSU instead of kingroot/kinguser (will trip Knox)
Install flashify from the play store
Use flashify to install twrp (this step trips Knox)
Download SuperSU zip
Remove kingroot and the included kinguser app (follow instructions from kingroot thread)
Reboot into recovery and install SuperSU zip
OR :
After installing twrp just download a ROM (and if needed gapps) of your choice and flash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461 for kingroot English.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify flashify play store link
For SuperSU zip google is your friend

hotrodwinston said:
For those who do not have access to a computer I achieved root today without a PC by following these steps :
Root device using kingroot (will not trip Knox)
(Tablet is now technically rooted but most people prefer SuperSU and to not have incompletely translated apps controlling root access)
Install flashify from the play store
Use flashify to install twrp (will trip Knox)
Download SuperSU zip
Remove kingroot and the included kinguser app
Reboot into recovery and install SuperSU zip
OR :
After installing twrp just download a ROM (and if needed gapps) of your choice and flash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461 for kingroot English.
For SuperSU zip google is your friend
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You've just negated the whole point of using kingroot, not tripping Knox.
You could have simply rooted using twrp or cfauto root without kingroot at all. I know it saves connecting to a PC, but that is trivial.
Kinguser supersu app is fully English and has no problems as a supersu replacement. I used it for months.

ashyx said:
You've just negated the whole point of using kingroot, not tripping Knox.
You could have simply rooted using twrp or cfauto root without kingroot at all. I know it saves connecting to a PC, but that is trivial.
Kinguser supersu app is fully English and has no problems as a supersu replacement. I used it for months.
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Some people don't have a PC - this method would let them install custom roms or install xposed without needing a PC.

hotrodwinston said:
Some people don't have a PC - this method would let them install custom roms or install xposed without needing a PC.
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I agree but then you stated about flashing supersu and twrp which would trip Knox and sort of made the first part of your informative post pointless, that's all.
Also flashing roms will also trip Knox, so again negates the point of rooting with kingroot.

ashyx said:
I agree but then you stated about flashing supersu and twrp which would trip Knox and sort of made the first part of your informative post pointless, that's all.
Also flashing roms will also trip Knox, so again negates the point of rooting with kingroot.
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I see your point - will modify the op to reflect different goals of rooting - my use of kingroot was to obtain root knowing I was going to trip Knox to install a custom rom as I do not have a PC to run Odin.

Kingroot does not work on lollipop. Don't want to trip Knox. Is there any other way to root? Not flashing any rom BTW.

If you have a computer and can downgrade to 4.4 kingroot should work then

djide said:
Kingroot does not work on lollipop. Don't want to trip Knox. Is there any other way to root? Not flashing any rom BTW.
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I had never heard of that tool. Did it work well on KK ? Looks like there are newer versions that could work with Lollipop. My only concern is that it is all in Chinese and I don't know how reliable it is

I saw in another thread that someone had success using KIng Root on the AT&T variant. I have tried several times and on several different days, but as of yet King Root will not work for me on the SM-T807V. This is the Verizon variant. Some folks have speculated that King Root might work on Lollipop if you have the Exynos chip and not the Snapdragon. Unfortunately, or fortunately, for me, I have the Verizon with the different chip. I believe I also read that Sprint variants also have Snapdragons.

Elbrin said:
I saw in another thread that someone had success using KIng Root on the AT&T variant. I have tried several times and on several different days, but as of yet King Root will not work for me on the SM-T807V. This is the Verizon variant. Some folks have speculated that King Root might work on Lollipop if you have the Exynos chip and not the Snapdragon. Unfortunately, or fortunately, for me, I have the Verizon with the different chip. I believe I also read that Sprint variants also have Snapdragons.
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Sprint does have snapdragon, but their bootloaders are unlocked in which they can flash anything they want. Sucks that kingroot doesn't work onm Verizon
Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Sprint does have snapdragon, but their bootloaders are unlocked in which they can flash anything they want. Sucks that kingroot doesn't work onm Verizon
Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk
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I'm not sure whether the failure for it to work is the exploit itself or user error.
It has worked both on my exynos tab s t805 and my snapdragon m8.
Both running kitkat.
Earlier versions have worked on other devices I own.
I can't see what would be different exploit wise with the Verizon device.
It took me a few goes for the exploit to work and most importantly the device will reboot at least once and then continue the exploit, so must not be touched after the reboot.
My advice here is to set the screen timeout to at least 10 mins, so it can be monitored after it reboots.
Also it needs to be kingroot v4. Another point is that if the app root fails then it's worth trying the desktop version as, from past experience, this has worked when the app hasn't.

Yes but in my opinion the app is interesting because it makes it possible to keep the Knox counter at 0×0. Using the desktop version installs another recovery and triggers Knox. But it looks like the team is working hard to make it functional for devices on lollipop. I hope we will see progress for the tab s

I have tried both the desktop and the mobile version and both met with the same results -no root. The common thought now seems to be, from my readings, is that Verizon has a locked bootloader which might be more of the issue versus the difference in the chip. Oh well, I will just have to be patient with Tab S and just enjoy my rooted S6 Edge.
Sent from my SM-T807V using XDA Free mobile app

Elbrin said:
I have tried both the desktop and the mobile version and both met with the same results -no root. The common thought now seems to be, from my readings, is that Verizon has a locked bootloader which might be more of the issue versus the difference in the chip. Oh well, I will just have to be patient with Tab S and just enjoy my rooted S6 Edge.
Sent from my SM-T807V using XDA Free mobile app
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The bootloader is irrelevant as the exploit doesn't involve the bootloader. Not only that it works on the bootloader locked att model.

Keep root after update ??
hello just wondering if after king root gains root would I be able to update from Samsung update in settings ? And if It does let us update from setting will it remove or patch over the root exploit..! Thanks...
-Ahmed- smt700 (wifi 0nly)

As far as Knox is not tripped, I believe you should but you will lose root in the process.
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk

djide said:
Kingroot does not work on lollipop. Don't want to trip Knox. Is there any other way to root? Not flashing any rom BTW.
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Downgrade to kitkat, root with king root then flash lollipop stock official fw with flashfire, with injects supersu option
Really kingroot works?

Joker87 said:
Downgrade to kitkat, root with king root then flash lollipop stock official fw with flashfire, with injects supersu option
Really kingroot works?
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I have not read any posts from anyone that has been able to root a VERIZON (caps used for emphasis ) Tab S (SM-T807V) with King Root or Kingo.
Sent from my SM-T807V using XDA Free mobile app

Op updated with more info regarding different steps if you just want root or want to go further and install xposed or custom Roms.
Sorry for taking so long to update - real life got in the way.

Has anyone found a method to replace kingroot with supersu without tripping Knox? I have tried the same steps that worked on my s6 on here and that didn't work. Worked only right after completing the process but when I reboot I lost root.

[GUIDE] How to root without tripping knox - Kitkat and Lollipop, Locked bootloader

I take no responsibility for what happens to your device if you follow this guide. Rooting or modifying carries risks, however I have tested this procedure many times with 100% success on my SM-t805. It should work for any device, but I can't confirm, so feedback please if it works for your device.
1. Firstly you need to downgrade your device to a XXU1ANF8 or earlier firmware suitable for your particular model. This is available at http://samsung-updates.com/ or you can use this one XSG-T805XXU1ANF8-20140625 which is for the T805 model only.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358555496 T800 only
Download and then install the firmware on your device with ODIN.
If you are still on Kitkat then there is no need to wipe the data partition. However if you are running Lollipop after successful installation you will need to boot into recovery POWER + HOME + VOL UP then select WIPE DATA/RESET -
YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR USER DATA SO BACK UP ANYTHING YOU NEED TO THE SD CARD FIRST!
NOTE: IF THE INSTALL FAILS AT HIDDEN.IMG OR CACHE.IMG SIMPLY BOOT INTO RECOVERY AFTERWARDS AND WIPE CACHE THEN CARRY ON WITH THE REST OF THE PROCEDURE.
2. Once booted into Android, set up your wifi and google account and skip everything else (this wont be needed if you didn't wipe the data partition)
3. Next we need to install a Few apps, so go ahead and install these apps from Play Store:
System app remover(root)
Root Validator
Terminal Emulator For Android
KINGROOT 4.1
Kingroot updates and earlier versions if posted version doesn't work:
http://androidxda.com/download-kingroot-application
Kingroot 4.5 (latest version)
We also need to download the package from this LINK
4. Using the built in File Manager extract the zip package to your internal SD card. Once extracted, inside the extracted folder is another folder called MRW.
THIS FOLDER NEEDS TO BE MOVED TO THE ROOT OF YOUR INTERNAL SD CARD OR THIS WON'T WORK.
5. Next go to Settings set your display timeout to 10 mins.
Now Run KINGROOT then wait for it to do it's thing. If it reboots part way through the process then after rebooting unlock your device, but don't touch anything for a couple of mins. The app should restart and continue. If you are successful you can move to the next step. If not, exit the app and run it again, it may take several attempts before you eventually achieve root.
6. After success uninstall the KINGROOT app (NOT KINGUSER) (not required with v4.5) and the other blue app with Chinese writing.
Now reboot - DO NOT RUN THE KINGUSER APP
7. Let your device fully boot then run the Terminal Emulator and wait for the command prompt
NOTE: IF AT ANY POINT YOU SEE A POP UP BOX WITH CHINESE WRITING ASKING YOU TO UPDATE THE KINGUSER APP SELECT CANCEL.
Now type or copy and paste the following command into the Terminal window:
su
It will ask for root permission, so select ALLOW.
Without closing the terminal emulator window, hit the HOME button and run the SYSTEM APP REMOVER app. (The app is red and simply called UNINSTALL)
The app will ask for root permission, hit ALLOW.
Look for the KINGUSER app then select it and uninstall it. Exit from the app.
Re-open the terminal emulator window and type the following:
sh /sdcard/mrw/root.sh
This will run a script, you will see a bunch of warnings, just ignore them .At then end of the script the SUPERSU app will run.
8. Hit CONTINUE then NORMAL.
Next you may see another message that 'Samsung knox has been detected'. When you see this message select CANCEL.
Once completed you should see a message saying that installation has been successful. Hit OK.
If you see the message again 'Samsung knox has been detected' select CANCEL then exit the SUPERSU app.
9 . Now check with ROOT VALIDATOR that you have root and everything looks ok.
DO NOT REBOOT.
The root is only temporary, if you reboot you will lose root.
10. The next step is to install our ROM of choice with Flashfire.
For more info on FLASHFIRE see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
11. Run FLASHFIRE and grant it root.
12. Agree to the disclaimer and then hit the Red circle with a white +.
Next select 'Flash firmware package' and then navigate to the firmware you want to install (in this case the stock tar package) and select it.
Wait until it finishes scanning the archive.
Next you will see the list of partitions to be flashed, all that is really required is BOOT, RECOVERY and SYSTEM. You can flash the others if you wish.
When you're happy hit the TICK and then you will see a list of what will be flashed. If you tap any one of them you will be able to change the options. Tap the REBOOT option then select DOWNLOAD from the list. This is so we can boot into download mode after the flashing process to flash the Lollipop BOOTLOADER. If not upgrading to lollipop just select REBOOT
I'd advise to leave the rest as is and then hit FLASH
NOW WATCH CHAINFIRES MAGIC!
13. After reboot it should boot directly into DOWNLOAD mode or REBOOT if not updating to Lollipop.
If updating to Lollipop we need to flash a Lollipop BOOTLOADER. I have provided a link below for the T800 and T805. If you have a T700/705/T807/T707 or if the ones provided don't work then you will have to extract it from the Lollipop stock ROM and then TAR it up.
T800XXU1BOCC_BOOTLOADER.tar
T805XXU1BOCC_BOOTLOADER.tar
Latest T800 boot loader thanks DUHasian skillz.
T800XXU1BOE3 bootloader
Flash the BOOTLOADER with ODIN.
If successful then after reboot you should have a rooted version of Lollipop or whatever rom you decided to install and an untripped Knox counter(hopefully)
Good luck and please give feed back.
If you wish you can give feedback to Chainfire at the link posted at the beginning of this post.
NOTE: If you wish to change roms or update and wish to keep root you will have to use the same procedure with Flashfire.
Also note that if you flash a custom KERNEL or BOOTLOADER then it may trip KNOX. Custom ROMs with stock KERNEL and BOOTLOADER should be OK(but don't hold me to that)
CREDITS TO CHAINFIRE FOR FLASHFIRE AND SUPERSU, KINGTEAM FOR ROOT AND WOLFDROID FOR THE KINGROOT REMOVAL SCRIPT.

My god I've been waiting for a thread like this one for a long time.
I don't have time to try it today but I'll give you feedback in a day or two.
Feedback here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61296003&postcount=12
Moderators, this thread should be sticked

Just so that I understand the limits of this method I need to ask. Is this method specific to achieve rooted (SuperSU) Lollipop 5.0.2 without tripping Knox or can further changes be made? For example:
1) Remove system apps (removing bloat).
2) Adding system apps such as Viper4Android, busybox, which must be installed in /system/priv-app
3) The Lollipop/Samsung compatible XPosed framework and modules
4) Installing a Tab S model compatible recovery (e.g. TWRP) as I would really like nandroid backups.
I only ask as in the Tab S Kingroot thread there was a post which mentioning that despite Kingroot having successfully achieved root without tripping Knox if you messed with the /system partition files there was the possibility of tripping Knox.
The comment in step 12 "... then navigate to the firmware you want to install ..." suggests that you could install one of the model compatible custom ROMs (e.g. CM). Is that a correct assumption or right now are you restricted to Lollipop stock? Some of those ROMs are from Lollipop 5.1.1 AOSP source (e.g. CM 12.1) which may be going too far with this method and still not trip Knox.
One last question, if I did implemented this could I go back to a pure unrooted stock kitkat/lollipop using Odin or Flashfire without tripping Knox? Odin would be fine.
I greatly appreciate the effort and quality of your post. I had hoped that a "Knox off" SuperSU lollipop root would be found for my month old Tab S 10.5 as I'm used to the low risk flashing on the Nexus devices and have had a mean itch to root without obvious risk to my warranty.
Thanks again

This method can be used to root any Rom.
Once you have root you can practically do what you please.
As for tripping Knox if you mess with the system partition, that's the whole point of root it already messes with the system partition. It shouldn't trip Knox, but never say never.
Just ensure once you have root you remove everything Knox related.
I can't confirm if a custom Rom will trip Knox, but as already stated as long as the bootloader and kernel are stock I believe it won't trip Knox.
Custom recovery may trip Knox.
You can go back to stock any time you wish.

ashyx, as I'm a Linux user its taken me a while to set up a Windows machine but I finally have KIES working and Odin recognizing my Tab S. Now I'm doing my "read your how-to OP twice and root once" prework, but I'm left with a bit of confusion. In my case I am already on Lollipop 5.0.2 so have downloaded stock 4.4.2. When I read steps 12 and 13 I became a bit confused.
What I want is to be rooted (SuperSu) on stock lollipop (T800XXU1BOE2) so I'm assuming that in step 12 I will be using Flashfire to flash boot, recovery and system from the Samsung stock 5.0.2 lollipop firmware file. My confusion comes in step 13 as it seems redundant to flash the lollipop bootloader I just flashed in step 12. Is step 13's flashing the bootloader redundant if you flashed it in step 12?
I apologize if this is a noob question but I just want to get things right and avoid a bricked device especially when the bootloader is involved. At this point I'm only looking to remove bloat and add specific apps that require root so rooted stock is good enough but I'll be in position to try a custom ROM if I feel the need.
Thanks again

3DSammy said:
ashyx, as I'm a Linux user its taken me a while to set up a Windows machine but I finally have KIES working and Odin recognizing my Tab S. Now I'm doing my "read your how-to OP twice and root once" prework, but I'm left with a bit of confusion. In my case I am already on Lollipop 5.0.2 so have downloaded stock 4.4.2. When I read steps 12 and 13 I became a bit confused.
What I want is to be rooted (SuperSu) on stock lollipop (T800XXU1BOE2) so I'm assuming that in step 12 I will be using Flashfire to flash boot, recovery and system from the Samsung stock 5.0.2 lollipop firmware file. My confusion comes in step 13 as it seems redundant to flash the lollipop bootloader I just flashed in step 12. Is step 13's flashing the bootloader redundant if you flashed it in step 12?
I apologize if this is a noob question but I just want to get things right and avoid a bricked device especially when the bootloader is involved. At this point I'm only looking to remove bloat and add specific apps that require root so rooted stock is good enough but I'll be in position to try a custom ROM if I feel the need.
Thanks again
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Good question. DO NOT flash bootloader in step 12 (newer bootloader) as Knox is likely to be tripped when you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader via odin in step 13. That was the instruction in Mobile odin (which could not flash bootloader). Flashing bootloader in step 12 is redundant.
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shayind4 said:
Good question. DO NOT flash bootloader in step 12 (newer bootloader) as Knox is likely to be tripped when you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader via odin in step 13. That was the instruction in Mobile odin (which could not flash bootloader). Flashing bootloader in step 12 is redundant.
shayind4
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Firstly, nowhere does it state to flash the kitkat bootloader on a lollipop Rom in step 12 or 13.
By step 13 you should be running a lollipop Rom.
Secondly Knox should not trip when flashing a stock bootloader. The bootloader can be flashed independently in Odin.
Lastly Flashfire does NOT flash bootloaders.
If you don't flash the bootloader your Rom won't boot.
I suggest you digest the guide again.

3DSammy said:
In my case I am already on Lollipop 5.0.2 so have downloaded stock 4.4.2. When I read steps 12 and 13 I became a bit confused.
What I want is to be rooted (SuperSu) on stock lollipop (T800XXU1BOE2) so I'm assuming that in step 12 I will be using Flashfire to flash boot, recovery and system from the Samsung stock 5.0.2 lollipop firmware file. My confusion comes in step 13 as it seems redundant to flash the lollipop bootloader I just flashed in step 12. Is step 13's flashing the bootloader redundant if you flashed it in step 12?
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It doesn't state to flash the boot loader in step 12? :what:
Your boot loader will be replaced when you downgrade to kitkat via Odin.
You need to reflash the lollipop boot loader after using Flashfire to install your Lollipop Rom or it won't boot.

Do i need to use a prerooted rom with flashfire, to maintain root, or can i just flash any original samsung room even if its not prerooted?

Paddiii said:
Do i need to use a prerooted rom with flashfire, to maintain root, or can i just flash any original samsung room even if its not prerooted?
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No, this is the whole point of the post. Flashfire will root for you.

ashyx said:
It doesn't state to flash the boot loader in step 12? :what: ...
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My bad, I saw the word "Boot" in step 12 and incorrectly assumed that was referring to a bootloader image.
Thanks for correcting me and your patience.

Sorry for being so long to give the feedback I promised.
I have one thing to say: thank you ! Your method works perfectly ! I am now running stock samsung lollipop on my T800 with knox untripped (0x0).
Little thing: your 4.4 file for the T800 isn't working (something wrong when flashing for the Hidden img). I took the same file but in XEF (I'm in France).
I just have a few questions now that could help other users:
-You say you are not sure about flashing another rom as long as it is with stock kernel and bootloader. But on a scale from 0 to 10 how sure are you about it working ? (I know you don't have any responsability in what happens, I just want a piece of advice).
- If for any reason I want to go back to stock, I just need to reflash the firmware with Odin ?
-Can I uninstall apps like the knox related ones without any risk about tripping knox ? (I think it is okay) (Edit: Ok I did it and knox not tripped. I used this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 that is very convenient for that purpose )
Again thank you for this tutorial !

bibihub said:
Sorry for being so long to give the feedback I promised.
I have one thing to say: thank you ! Your method works perfectly ! I am now running stock samsung lollipop on my T800 with knox untripped (0x0).
Little thing: your 4.4 file for the T800 isn't working (something wrong when flashing for the Hidden img). I took the same file but in XEF (I'm in France).
I just have a few questions now that could help other users:
-You say you are not sure about flashing another rom as long as it is with stock kernel and bootloader. But on a scale from 0 to 10 how sure are you about it working ? (I know you don't have any responsability in what happens, I just want a piece of advice).
- If for any reason I want to go back to stock, I just need to reflash the firmware with Odin ?
-Can I uninstall apps like the knox related ones without any risk about tripping knox ? (I think it is okay) (Edit: Ok I did it and knox not tripped. I used this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 that is very convenient for that purpose )
Again thank you for this tutorial !
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The hidden.img failure is because its carrier/region related.For some it will flash ok, for others it will fail. It isn't actually required at all. Even if it fails to flash the rest of the Rom will.
All that needs to be done after that failure is to wipe cache in recovery.
As regards flashing custom roms. Remember your Rom is already custom as you have modified it.
I would say a good chance custom stock roms won't trip Knox as long as it's build properties reflect its a stock Rom.
However something like Cyanogen probably would trip Knox as its not based on stock.
I won't say this is for sure, but I think it's the general consensus.

Over one thousand views and literally only one person has bothered posting feed back.

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Over one thousand views and literally only one person has bothered posting feed back.
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OK now two. I successfully applied your instructions yesterday. I really appreciate your guide.
What I did, differently is flashed with Odin using a Virtualbox Windows guest VM from my Ubuntu 14.04 host PC. It took a few days of false starts to get that working. Here is a "[How-To] Linux, Virtualbox and ODIN for your Samsung device", that I just posted to help others who do not have access to Windows machines.
Of the whole procedure the scariest moment was after flashing 4.4.2 stock with Odin over my devices 5.0.2 install. The reboot was too fast for me to get into recovery to wipe user data. I could not power off the SM-T800 and holding POWER + VOL DOWN just rebooted where it would hang displaying "SAMSUNG".
Booting into recovery ( POWER + VOL UP + HOME) had no effect what so ever. Finally I found that if I was fast enough I could reboot (POWER + VOL DOWN) and as soon as the screen went blank hold down the "POWER + VOL UP + HOME" buttons, then the tablet booted into recovery where wiping user data worked as described in your guide.
After completing your guide I am on stock Android 5.0.2 with Knox 0x0000.
My root apps so far:
Busybox
Titanium backup
GMD Gestures.
ES File Explorer with RW access to all partitions
System Uninstall Pro
Universal init.d
See Update below: "Unfortunately so far Viper4Android is not working as I cannot get SELinux permissive enabled either by the SELinux app or an init.d shell script using the "setenforce 0" command. From what I've read that is due to the Samsung stock bootloader."
V4A now works, see: "[HOW-TO] Installing Viper4Android (V4A) Audio on a Lollipop Tab S"
I took the high road and only froze the following KNOX related apps using titanium backup:
com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX
KNOX II
KNOX SetUpWizardClient
So far I debloated 117Mgs of other apps using System Uninstall Pro. I bought the pro version of Flashfire just to show respect for Chainfire's development efforts. I have not tried to see if Flashfire's backups can be successfully restored yet.
Thanks again for your guide.:good:

Thanks for the feedback, it's constructive and encouraging for others to know It's successful.
For future reference you can disable auto reboot in Odin then manually reboot with POWER + VOL DOWN + HOME then as soon as it restarts switch to VOL UP while continuing to hold the other buttons.
The above procedure can be used at any point and will restart the device and get you into recovery every time.

just registered to suport OP, it works
I thought I did not need to run the su script as I could use kinguser w/o problems. But the flashfire is not compatible with other kinguser. Hope chainfire could remove this restriction. Maybe there is another way to flash rom or other mobile odin alternatives.
The OP could add a link about how to use odin for newbies like me. The odin 3.10 have different wording than previous version.
One more thing to mention is that the kingroot will work if you downgrade. I was in kitkat XXU1ANFB which is only one version up. The kingroot failed 20 times. XXU1ANF8 only takes 3 times to work.
After debloating in lolipop, the system is not smoother than before. The display has less contrast and dimer than kitkat. I did not wipe data/cache so my setting stays the same.
I rooted only for better battery performance as charging will take 10+ hours and could not hold charge at use with power cord plugged. It seems that the performance is not improved for this device after debloating.

vancities said:
I thought I did not need to run the su script as I could use kinguser w/o problems. But the fireflash is not compatible with other root authorization app. Hope chainfire could remove this restriction. Maybe there is another way to flash rom or other mobile odin alternatives.
The OP could add a link about how to use odin for newbies like me. The odin 3.10 have different wording than previous version.
One more thing to mention is that the kingroot will work if you downgrade. I was in kitkat XXU1ANFB which is only one version up. The kingroot failed 20 times. XXU1ANF8 only takes 3 times to work.
After debloating in lolipop, the system is not smoother than before. The display has less contrast and dimer than kitkat. I did not wipe data/cache so my setting stays the same.
I rooted only for better battery performance as charging will take 10+ hours and could not hold charge at use with power cord plugged. It seems that the performance is not improved for this device after debloating.
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but I think youre saying you had success?
Regarding Odin, it is not the intention of this post to spoon feed every single step, some knowledge is expected prior to following this guide. Anything relating to the actual process in this guide is explained in detail. Any other information you would ever require is already posted on XDA.

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I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but I think youre saying you had success?
Regarding Odin, it is not the intention of this post to spoon feed every single step, some knowledge is expected prior to following this guide. Anything relating to the actual process in this guide is explained in detail. Any other information you would ever require is already posted on XDA.
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I had success. What I mean is the step 6 7 8 9 are not necessary if flashfire could work with kinguser.
Also kingroot only works on XXU1ANF8 and maybe lower. I mentioned this because in other thread about kingroot, someone got success but most did not.

So my feedback . everything was great , was a little confused about Odin at first but like you said everything can be found on xda. Need to be on the most recent Odin which I believe is 3.10. Kingroot took forever to root but I believe it has something to do with connectivity to the servers. So my tab s is rooted no Knox counter. I'm hoping the custom tw rom doesn't revert all the hard work ? thanks again op.

pls help. i think i messed up!

Ok so i watch the youtube video on this and read though some of the Kingroot and Sunshine threads.
now i saw on Sunshine site (verizon3.2 for droid turbos) that Kingroot wasnt needed anymore to gain temproot. And this is only my sec droid that ive tried to root so forgive me for any mess ups. Aways i download sunshine. It ran its test on my phone, it said that everything was good it will work buy or code bla. So i buy it 25bones. It does what it does and works rebooted my phone says it unlocked(score) now doing a root test with Easy Root Checker say the a dont have root and that superuser: Unidentified Superuser. should i of done King Root before? What should i do now?

Being rooted is different from being unlocked.
Unlocking the bootloader allows changes to to be made to your device's operating system files that the manufacturer/carrier has blocked access to.
Root, meanwhile, is traditionally the username in Linux who has the highest level permission settings possible (ie. Superuser permissions).
Sunshine unlocks the bootloader; and Kingroot can also be used to gain permanent superuser level access your Droid Turbo. When you unlocked your phone, it only /temporarily/ rooted as part of the unlock process. Now what you need to do is go to kingroot.net and permanently root your phone.
Many people seem to like SuperSU better than Kingroot though. So after you get Kingroot to root your phone, go to the Play Store and get Super-Sume Pro. It automatically removes Kingroot and installs SuperSU. Oddly enough, though Super-Sume Pro does cost money to purchase from the Play Store initially, the Play Store's automatic refund policy kicks in if you uninstall it within 2 hours of purchase, and there's no reason to keep it after you've successfully run it once.
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If your bootloader is unlocked, then install TWRP custom recovery and from there flash SuperSu. You will have a FREE solution and have both custom recovery and full root -- the best of both worlds.
Custom recovery lets you make image backups so you can restore your phone to an earlier point in time when everything was OK, if you screw up. Also lets you flash stuff like custom kernels and custom ROMs. But just the image backups is enough to have it.
When you install TWRP, if you try to exit without root it will ask if you want to flash SuperSu. It's included in TWRP. Or you can download SuperSu and flash it manually in TWRP. Your choice.

What chazzmatt said. Here are some basic links and instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64033988

[Q] Is a "temporary root" possible?

Other than Titanium Backup, I don't have any apps that regularly require root. On the other hand, I find an increasing number of apps that refuse to run on a rooted phone.
I'm running SM-910T stock 5.1.1, with systemless root now.
I would be happy to run unrooted for 99% of the time if I could easily get to root to perform a backup, and on occasion for certain file maintenance tasks.
Is there any way to get temporary root (directly without Odin or flashing from recovery), perform rooted tasks, and then reboot back to an unrooted state?
I've searched here and it appears most mentions of temporary root are device specific work-arounds for phones with locked bootloaders. Is there a general approach that would apply to the Note4?

timg11 said:
Other than Titanium Backup, I don't have any apps that regularly require root. On the other hand, I find an increasing number of apps that refuse to run on a rooted phone.
I'm running SM-910T stock 5.1.1, with systemless root now.
I would be happy to run unrooted for 99% of the time if I could easily get to root to perform a backup, and on occasion for certain file maintenance tasks.
Is there any way to get temporary root (directly without Odin or flashing from recovery), perform rooted tasks, and then reboot back to an unrooted state?
I've searched here and it appears most mentions of temporary root are device specific work-arounds for phones with locked bootloaders. Is there a general approach that would apply to the Note4?
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If you are on 5.1.1 KingRoot app or( kingoroot pc version)will root temporary but once your reboot you will lose root.you have to reroot again on every reboot.
But i am not sure this will keep your device status official.

Trex888 said:
If you are on 5.1.1 KingRoot app or( kingoroot pc version)will root temporary but once your reboot you will lose root.you have to reroot again on every reboot.
But i am not sure this will keep your device status official.
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When KingRoot and kingoroot came out a few years ago, I recall reading that they were possibly security or privacy risks themselves. Have they been around long enough to clear their reputation, and now the community is confident they do not have hidden malware or undesirable functionality?
Also, I'm not concerned about "official" status, such as warranty bit and Knox - I am primarily wanting to support apps that refuse to run if they detect root.

timg11 said:
When KingRoot and kingoroot came out a few years ago, I recall reading that they were possibly security or privacy risks themselves. Have they been around long enough to clear their reputation, and now the community is confident they do not have hidden malware or undesirable functionality?
Also, I'm not concerned about "official" status, such as warranty bit and Knox - I am primarily wanting to support apps that refuse to run if they detect root.
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I think your confusing KingRoot with KingoRoot

majicmazo said:
I think your confusing KingRoot with KingoRoot
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Yes I am confused. First how many of these are there? KingRoot, KingoRoot, kingoroot pc version. Are all three different? Which are APKs, and which are PC software?
It looks like https://kingroot.net/ is both APK and Windows, and goes by the name KingRoot.
Also https://www.kingoapp.com/ calls itself KingoRoot, and also offers APK and Windows software.
Most important, which are reputable/trustworthy?

timg11 said:
Yes I am confused. First how many of these are there? KingRoot, KingoRoot, kingoroot pc version. Are all three different? Which are APKs, and which are PC software?
It looks like https://kingroot.net/ is both APK and Windows, and goes by the name KingRoot.
Also https://www.kingoapp.com/ calls itself KingoRoot, and also offers APK and Windows software.
Most important, which are reputable/trustworthy?
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Once upon a time there was kingoroot, it got a bad reputation for malware... Then came kingroot which I haven't heard anything bad about... I have personally used it its a little annoying because the UI is in Chinese but pretty easy to figure out the buttons... I'm not sure about the the site kingo app but kingroots site is
https://kingroot.net which is what you're looking for... Download to a pc, plug in, run. Disclaimer: i never used it on this phone i can just tell you there's no malware on it... I do not in any way guarantee you the safety of your device with any root method... Rooting is always at your own risk no matter how you do it.
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Trex888 said:
If you are on 5.1.1 KingRoot app or( kingoroot pc version)will root temporary but once your reboot you will lose root.you have to reroot again on every reboot.
But i am not sure this will keep your device status official.
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I think this is where the confusion started Kingroots pc app is called KingRoot-Pc NOT kingoroot PC they are 2 different Apps..
Kingroot here https://kingroot.net/ both APK and PC version called KingRoot
And Kingoroot is here https://www.kingoapp.com/ once again offering both an android and PC version
While often confused they are NOT the same or even the same team despite what some forums claim you can look at both websites about section
https://www.kingoapp.com/about.htm
https://kingroot.net/about/
They are in fact 2 septate teams with similar names. Now Kingoroot once had a bad reputation for malware, I think that they have since then got better but I haven't used them in quite some time...Kingroot on the other hand has always been safe at least from malware.