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I've noticed a pretty big difference in battery life and charge time with this application running. The application states that it has improved battery life by 1.75x on my phone. It also seems to lop some charging time off.
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same here, its actually increased my batter life by 2.3x but thats because I put in in constant extreme mode. It saves a ton of battery but because it shuts everything off except texting and calling while the screen is off, when I turn it on to get the text or call it blows up with emails and other notifications... Its kind of funny actually. But yeah this is a great app if your looking to conserve life as long as possible and not worried about getting delayed notifications.
good stuff. i have mine set to aggressive and it's done ok for now.
I think my biggest problem with juice defender is the learning curve. Yeah I want to save battery life. But no, I don't want to miss an IM or email or something. I keep looking for a generally simple walk through on how to set stuff up and select the settings to get the best optimal results.
I have an extended battery and 2 of the regular ones, so battery life has ceased to be an issue. Still I'd like it to be a bit better than it is now.
WWJDD?
I use aggressive on mine and it says that it averages x1.83, it's amazing, I'm actually considering buying the paid version because of how awesome it really is, and that's from someone who has had a Droid for over 2 years and has never paid for a single app, because I thought that it was pointless. Thank you for converting me JD!!!
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I think my biggest problem with juice defender is the learning curve. Yeah I want to save battery life. But no, I don't want to miss an IM or email or something. I keep looking for a generally simple walk through on how to set stuff up and select the settings to get the best optimal results.
I have an extended battery and 2 of the regular ones, so battery life has ceased to be an issue. Still I'd like it to be a bit better than it is now.
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Here's a good place to start reading up on features http://latedroid.com/juicedefender
When you're ready to roll aggressive/custom you can take a look through the settings / help, also this app configuration article on their FAQ looks handy as well http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-general/suggestions/1409997-faq-configure-apps?ref=title
The auto config is fine but to see some real benefits one needs to set it up. Over time I'm sure the battery life benefit is huge.
For example you could disable data during the night, set it to 15 minute data off during the day, configure the apps you want (i.e. disabling data when using a game that doesn't need it).
My main concern is regarding compatibility with the Revo.
For example I'm getting an error that says: "ROM is not compatible with AOSP helper (3G control is unavailable) - get CyanogenMod"
Not sure how much of the app is compatible, what have you guys found?
JD set on balanced. 52 sms messages, multiple facebook checks, nothing else. good 4g coverage. unplugged at 9am, 30% and falling at 3pm. ok?
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JD set on balanced. 52 sms messages, multiple facebook checks, nothing else. good 4g coverage. unplugged at 9am, 30% and falling at 3pm. ok?
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check how good your service is. when it's not the data draining bettery, it usually means it's spending a lot of energy searching for cell signal
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Root and use SetCPU, and slam into 'on demand' with a minimum of 250mhz clock. battery life is CRAZY good now and i never have to worry about missing a email from gmail or my works outlook server (which goes off like crazy, around 100 emails a day)
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I use aggressive on mine and it says that it averages x1.83, it's amazing, I'm actually considering buying the paid version because of how awesome it really is, and that's from someone who has had a Droid for over 2 years and has never paid for a single app, because I thought that it was pointless. Thank you for converting me JD!!!
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Pointless to buy apps? lol, thats the reason many app developers won't develop for Android. Android owners are generally known to be cheapskates, and this is why the big app developers have avoided Android for the most part. There not going to develop something if they don't think they can make money on it. And that is the biggest reason the iPhone gets the best apps and we get leftovers. The other reason is the amount of different Androids, but the main reason is that they want to make money because they are a business.
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Pointless to buy apps? lol, thats the reason many app developers won't develop for Android. Android owners are generally known to be cheapskates, and this is why the big app developers have avoided Android for the most part. There not going to develop something if they don't think they can make money on it. And that is the biggest reason the iPhone gets the best apps and we get leftovers. The other reason is the amount of different Androids, but the main reason is that they want to make money because they are a business.
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I actually bought the most expensive of this app, I think it was $5 or $6, my buddy has the itouch and he hacked it, he now can have pretty much any app he wants for FREE. The only things I used my original Motorolla Droid was for taking pictures (stock app), playing angrybirds, and calling/texting people. With this new phone I'm doing a lot more, and very willing to give credit where credit is due, so get off your high horse and buy an iphone if your so worried about getting the bad end of the deal.
I bought JD Ultimate. Great buy IMHO. I was using set CPU and Setting Profiles which work well. JDU does all that those do and so much more. I have on demand CPU set. wifi only comes on when I am home based on cell signal GPS not the standalone GPS which chews battery. It also lets you disable individual apps from checking statuses when the screen is off and then enables them as soon as you turn the screen on. GPS standalone only comes on when the screen is on. I have different profiles for work hours and off hours so it does email instantly while at work and only every 15 minutes in the evening. I have more than doubled my battery life.
Revo + De-crap rom + lock scree/battery indicator mod + Juice Defender Ultimate = best phone available today
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I bought JD Ultimate. Great buy IMHO. I was using set CPU and Setting Profiles which work well. JDU does all that those do and so much more. I have on demand CPU set. wifi only comes on when I am home based on cell signal GPS not the standalone GPS which chews battery. It also lets you disable individual apps from checking statuses when the screen is off and then enables them as soon as you turn the screen on. GPS standalone only comes on when the screen is on. I have different profiles for work hours and off hours so it does email instantly while at work and only every 15 minutes in the evening. I have more than doubled my battery life.
Revo + De-crap rom + lock scree/battery indicator mod + Juice Defender Ultimate = best phone available today
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Absolutely agree! All the same for me!
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lag to re-enable mobile data?
i stopped using JD because I couldnt take the lag and inconsistency with which it would restore mobile data connection on unlock
i tried restoring a backup of JD beta and it actually seems to be more consistent.
i'm curious, how long does JD ultimate take to restore data connection for those who have it?
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i stopped using JD because I couldnt take the lag and inconsistency with which it would restore mobile data connection on unlock
i tried restoring a backup of JD beta and it actually seems to be more consistent.
i'm curious, how long does JD ultimate take to restore data connection for those who have it?
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5 seconds... Maybe 10 if I'm in a bad coverage area. This is 3g only though. No 4g here yet.
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It does take a few seconds to restore connections. And it is a little annoying. Probably 5 seconds for everything to be restored and 100% functioning.
With Ultimate version you can make very detailed customization's. So for example you could tell it not to give access to apps like Facebook to update when the screen is off, and to only turn on Wifi when at a certain GPS location (it uses phone radio for location not the GPS radio so it doesn't use battery), and use processor on demand scaling, and you could set it to only turn off radio's during off hours, say in the evening when the 5 second lag might not be as big an issue. Doing those things would still give you significant improvements in battery use while not causing the hassle of waiting for radio's to turn back on. For example I have mine set to sync email in real time during business hours, and at 15 minute intervals in the evening. So I don't get as much battery life as I potentially could, but I also don't have to wait for it to sync things up while I'm at work.
Right now I have been off the charger for 6.5 hours, and have been checking email regularly, and even flashed the clock mod that just got posted in the development forum, and I'm at 80% battery. Not bad.
Doubt he is "hacking" them. There is installius for the iPhone which is the apparently store cracked equivelant which houses many already cracked ipa's. With that being said many developers are in arms in apples lack of piracy for not checking having a more consistent way of checking authenticity of applications. As long as it keeps up you will see less updates for popular applications and developers moving to different platforms.
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Hello all,
I like to use "Green Power Free" for battery savings. You can download it in the market. It's a free app, i suggest it to all my Android friends.
Now I'm going to have to go back on saying green power. It fails to register the lock/unlock correctly and either never shuts down the modems on a screen lock or never turns them back on after an unlock. Green power works well on my friends Streak and on another friends inc2, so must be the LG magic getting things fuzzy for GP. So back to JD for now.
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cm7 should fix a lot of battery issues and extend it a ton
Ok going to try and start a conversation here to get feedback from everyone on what you guys do to get the most out of your battery. I see alot of people always asking what kernal is best for battery life and some people seem to have horrible battery life and some have exceptional battery life. I personally get decent battery life. Nothing super amazing but that comes down to the way I use my phone.
My current battery I'm using - Andida 2000mah battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/280843217453...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_4497wt_1396
I also have - GTMax 3500mah battery
http://www.amazon.ca/GTMax-Extended-Battery-3500mAh-Microfiber/dp/B006VAP102/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_4
The Andida gives me generally a extra 2-3 hours more over the stock. I had to cycle the battery 4 times before I started seeing any real improvements. If I take these off the charger at 6:30am I can ussually make it to around 10pm without needing to charge.
The GTMax get me through a day (630am - midnight) with around 50% left.
Now keep in mind this is based on my usage habits, and when I'm at work my signal is horrible so it drains a bit harder for the 8 hours I'm at work.
I don't have LTE where I live or work, I do get LTE in areas close by but on a regular day I don't see it. With the bad signal at work I've started to switch to gsm only mode (phone was constantly switching from Edge to 3g/4g and wouldn't provide a stable connection most of the time). This seems to have helped my battery at work.
When I flash a new rom I always give it at least 2 good full battery cycles before judging the battery life on it.
Ok onto some apps. My first foray into getting better battery life started with wanting to control my data. I used Juice Defender to that but I found that having to wait for the data to turn back on was at some times taking way to long and even sometimes I would have to reboot to get it back. Tried a few others and had similar experiences. When it works its nice and I did see some gain from it but at the same time it seemed bloated and slow and I decided I like having my data on and readily available quickly. After some searching I found an awesome app...
Better Battery Stats
Play Store link - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
XDA Forum link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
I highly recommend reading up on this app and trying it out. If your seeing a big drain on you battery while the screen is off, it's probably because there is something that is keeping it from going into a deep sleep mode. This won't save you any battery just by installing it but with a little work it can make a pretty good difference.
Ok now this is where I'm looking for suggestions, are there apps that you find specifically run smoother or are lighter than their stock counterparts or rival apps that put less of a strain on the battery?
Instead of the stock messaging app I run Pansi SMS. It gives me a few extra options but I never really used the stock mms on ICS so I can only compare it to Handcent SMS and I think it is definitely lighter and a lil bit more battery friendly. It's not a huge difference but I try and squeeze everything I can w/o giving up functionality.
For a launcher I'm running apex right now, but for a lightweight launcher I'd recommend FTL. Runs really nice and smooth, nothing fancy about it, just fast and light.
Some apps sometimes can just be poorly coded and thus have a bad effect on battery life. Alot of people seem to feel the Facebook app is one such app that suffers from that. The app that gets the most recommendations as a replacement and being a bit easier on the battery is Friendcaster. I tend to agree with that, and would recommend trying it out.
I'd really like to hear about what everyone else does to try and squeeze out the most of their battery. Theres more stuff that I do, such as reducing the amount of things that are synced to only the stuff I actually want, default settings just sync everything and I don't feel I need to sync my contacts on a daily basis as I rarely change them around. So share your tips, experiences good and bad with apps in regards to your battery, and if theres enough feedback I'll try and re-organize this into a bit better structure.
I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
It seems that with every new handset that comes out this is one of the hottest topics but the parameters all always the same with regard to battery life.
The 3 biggest things that drain our batteries are Display Usage, Data Connection & Radio Cell Connection. These are listed in order of current used. Of the 3 we can have some control over the 1st 2. Lower screen brightness and disconnect data when not needed and use wifi when possible. While wifi does use a good amount of current it's not as much as mobile data. The last one, Radio Cell Connection, we have very little control over. It's also the reason we see people having great differences in battery life. The further the phone is from the tower it's connected to the more juice it needs to make a good connection. So other than leaving the phone in airplane mode or planning your life around where towers are, neither of which are very practical, there is not much we can do there.
To get the best all around life from Li-ion batteries do not fully discharge them very often and also don't keep them plugged in after they're fully charged. It's best to recharge them when they get down to 20-30% and unplug them after they're charged. They also don't need to be fully charged every time, they have no memory. If your on the go and can only leave it plugged in for a short period of time that's fine. Also if you have more than one battery and your not going to use the 2nd one for a while don't store it at full charge. drop it down to 50-60% before pulling it out.
I'll update this post when I get home tonight with more info and links. Hope it helps.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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With my 3500mah battery I don't really worry about turning anything off. That thing is great. Made a bumper case for it but I miss having a real case on it so I picked up the 2000mah andida battery so I could get a few more hours on some days. If someone ever made a real case for those big batteries i'd use it all the time.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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Try 2x Battery from the store. It will shut off data as soon as the the phone sleeps, it reconnects at screen on after unlock almost instantly. It also allows you to white list apps, like Pandora. The free version only allows 1 app though.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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The DarkRaider ROM I am using has a nice extended settings menu in the notification bar with a data toggle. I also have a nice widget from switchpro widgets where I can customize what kinds of things I want to be able to toggle from my homescreen. Currently I have data/wifi/vibrate-silent/gps. Doesn't take long at all when I toggle the data on/off, it's pretty much instant.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I use the 2X Battery app. When the phone goes to sleep, the app turns off the data radio. I can still get calls and text messages. I don't have a need for push notification of e-mail, etc., so this saves me some battery usage. Of course, if e-mail and other app notifications are important, this app will help only if you are willing to wait until you wake up the phone.
Here's what I do. I'm on the stock HTC battery.
I SetCPU screen off to 192/192 ondemand, in call to 810/192 ondemand, and regular use to 810/192 ondemand.
I listen to about 2 hours of music a day, have 3 GMail accounts on autosync, a Facebook account on hourly autosync and HTC Weather on hourly sync. Automatic brightness. Roughly 1.5 hours of cumulative web-browsing, no apps/games used.
I never use WiFi and I don't live in an LTE area.
I typically end the day (19-21 hours unplugged) with ~40% remaining.
Now I am not sure if living in area with LTE is a bless or curse....
I would unplug around 7am everyday, and by the time I get home (around 6pm) I would always in red mode (meaning, it is either 14% or under). Using the Holics-0.6 with the kernel that came with it, battery seems to die fast. Even when I am on the stock ICS before this, seems LTE would just bleed this baby to death....
Reading other comments, might as well start looking for a bigger battery....
It actually seems like I'm getting better battery since LTE came to my town. I'm on dark raider using kozmick's rc1 kernel and it's even better now. Try turning off vibration feedback...I think it's located in the sounds menu in settings. You can also try using automatic brightness or even just setting it to stay at 50% or lower. The screen is a battery hog. There's a stickied thread somewhere on here that has other things you can try too.
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Really is a shame that we have to disable or ease everything back so much to get through the day on a battery. Anyhow, I have a Velocity (which comes out of the box with the processor running at 1500) on Dark Raider. Therefore I use SetCPU to throttle the beast back, depending upon the circumstances. It only is allowed to run at 1500 when on charge and down to 400 when battery below 25 percent. I also use 2X Battery to take care of the netowrk and Wi-Fi and have purchased the andida battery for extended life. I also have JD installed, however it is rarely used - reason is that I am in agreeance with "citsong" that it takes too long to establish connections, even causing me general connection issues from time to time. So for around $25 AUD you can get through the day on a battery with moderate use and reasonable performance. I have not tried the extended battery pack, though I will probably get one of those as well...not sure which are the best???
I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
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I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
I actually have both Motorola Atrix 2 and HTC Vivid. However, my Atrix 2 would last about two days between charges, which is kind of weird. I have my personal account and company account on that phone (personal is to activate the google stuff), so it eats up data twice as fast, yet it is almost twice as long battery life.
And to update a little bit from my post before, it seems I am getting better battery life now, after 4-5 days of flashing the new ROM, let's hope it is true....or I am just going to go hunt for a bigger battery
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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Actually, the Samsung Galaxy Note is way bigger than either Atrix or Vivid, so with a bigger body, I would assume that a bigger battery is possible. But if you look at current phones, I rarely see batteries that are above, say, 1800mAh, let alone 2000mAh and above, stock of course.
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
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Could you share the details on the battery?
Andida batteies are easily found on Ebay, but beware of Chinese fakes!! I got mine from a seller in Canada, all good.
I get good battery life by turning off data while I'm working . 70% with 8hrs unplugged
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I haven't seen one of these threads yet, and I think it will benefit users of our D4 forum.
If you have any tips/tricks, feel free to add them here.
My first tip: TURN OFF 4G AT ANY TIME POSSIBLE. 4g is a battery vacuum.
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Here's the biggest....Widgets and Social Networks.
Watch your widgets (weather, news, facebook, etc..) that update/refresh. Most will allow you to adjust the refresh time. Set it high or to manual refresh.
Social Networks.....set them to refresh only. You don't need them refreshing their data in the background, just have them pull the latest down when you are actually using them (Facebook, Twitter, Google +, etc..). Set to manual refresh so that they only refresh when you are using the app. You don't need the latest status messages your friends are posting hitting your phone when it's in your pocket.
WiFi and. 3G/4G.....if you are in a location that makes your phone drop/search for signal and WiFi is available....use WiFi. The constant searching/seeking and establishing a 3G/4G network connection will kill your battery faster than having a constant 4G connection. This leaves the cellular band free for calls and all your apps that sync/pull data from the internet can happily run over the WiFi connection instead of killing your battery.
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Here's the biggest....Widgets and Social Networks.
Watch your widgets (weather, news, facebook, etc..) that update/refresh. Most will allow you to adjust the refresh time. Set it high or to manual refresh.
Social Networks.....set them to refresh only. You don't need them refreshing their data in the background, just have them pull the latest down when you are actually using them (Facebook, Twitter, Google +, etc..). Set to manual refresh so that they only refresh when you are using the app. You don't need the latest status messages your friends are posting hitting your phone when it's in your pocket.
WiFi and. 3G/4G.....if you are in a location that makes your phone drop/search for signal and WiFi is available....use WiFi. The constant searching/seeking and establishing a 3G/4G network connection will kill your battery faster than having a constant 4G connection. This leaves the cellular band free for calls and all your apps that sync/pull data from the internet can happily run over the WiFi connection instead of killing your battery.
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I second this, keep your widgest, number of home screens, and social networking apps down. Phones haven't reached the point of being able to be computers quite yet. Here are some apps to keep it snappy though:
Fast Reboot (by Great Bytes Software)- same as a battery pull without having to. Clears up a lot of RAM.
Lte On/Off - with this, you can switch to 3G (CDMA) only, and have it set to automatically default to that setting in the case of you switching to airplane mode for some reason. But it does reset the app if you turn of your phone. Fast Reboot doesn't clash with this app.
App Cache Cleaner - clears out a lot of the cache you otherwise would have to go to Manage Applications to clean out.
That's all I can think of at the moment for non-rooted users. I won't go into rooted b/c this is not the right place. But here are a few battery saving settings:
GPS - have only the Google one on, it's the fastest in my experience.
Display - have it set to the lowest setting when at all possible. Only lowers color distortion in my experience.
Developer optionss - go in here and turn on the force GPU settings. This may not be the case with everyone, but it gives my phone a little more zip and makes things smoother.
Apps (this is the very bottom of the developer settings) - Adjust these to your liking. Perhaps try setting the max number of backgrounded processes to 4.
I wonder how it looks on you ...
on my droid 4 and with Jelly Bean i lost ~5,5% battery by hour no matter what i do even on airplane mode.. still aroud 5% by 1h
please can you advice how its look from your side ?
I had the same thing with my Droid 4. I finally sbf'd it, and reinstalled everything one at a time. This fixed it.
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i try SBF many time, formats, pull out sd card no matter what i do.. still lost 5,5 % battery by hour.. so max my battery keep 16-18h
(its there any possibility to move back to ICS ? )
Is there any way for the Droid to use only 2G networks? 3G/4G while idle seems to be the biggest battery drainer.
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Is there any way for the Droid to use only 2G networks? 3G/4G while idle seems to be the biggest battery drainer.
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you just turn off your network data and you will still be able to run 2g
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you just turn off your network data and you will still be able to run 2g
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What I meant was if it was possible to just use 2G for Internet connections, instead of 2G+3G+4G.
a battery calibration after rooting device should help.. what it does is delete the fake information from the old/stock ROM and cleans up your battery to new life... better explained here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration...
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a battery calibration after rooting device should help.. what it does is delete the fake information from the old/stock ROM and cleans up your battery to new life... better explained here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration...
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I have not found that to be the case at all. The battery tools make that claim but it has not helped my battery life (stock or rooted) on any of my multiple droid 4 or d2g
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I have not found that to be the case at all. The battery tools make that claim but it has not helped my battery life (stock or rooted) on any of my multiple droid 4 or d2g
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Same here. In a couple cases its just made it worse. I will be trying out the extended battery in a couple weeks though. Hopefully it'll let me go at least a day without charging.
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The Droid 4 firmware just isn't very battery friendly... and it's not a new phone so your battery probably isn't either. Two things to consider.
LiIon batteries lose capacity over both cycles (cycling losses) and time (calendar losses.) If your battery is 18 months old and was charged nightly, you've lost 25% or more of the life anyhow... much more if the phone was kept plugged in after the charge and ran warm. And the drop accelerates with more cycles. It may be time to change the battery.
Adding JuiceDefender ( I use Ultimate) triples my battery life even in basic mode.
Replacing the battery is really simple; buy one from Amazon, open the back, carefully pry out the old one (it's held down by a double-sided tape), unscrew the connector (very small Torx, but jewelers screwdrivers work), swap and reassemble. $30 later (and a few hours to charge), you have your capacity back.
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The Droid 4 firmware just isn't very battery friendly... and it's not a new phone so your battery probably isn't either. Two things to consider.
LiIon batteries lose capacity over both cycles (cycling losses) and time (calendar losses.) If your battery is 18 months old and was charged nightly, you've lost 25% or more of the life anyhow... much more if the phone was kept plugged in after the charge and ran warm. And the drop accelerates with more cycles. It may be time to change the battery.
Adding JuiceDefender ( I use Ultimate) triples my battery life even in basic mode.
Replacing the battery is really simple; buy one from Amazon, open the back, carefully pry out the old one (it's held down by a double-sided tape), unscrew the connector (very small Torx, but jewelers screwdrivers work), swap and reassemble. $30 later (and a few hours to charge), you have your capacity back.
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yeah after trying juice defender for about a month or so i noticed my phones battery life extend much more. so i opted to buy the ultimate juice defender and sure enuff more battery life... i am very pleased with this app. however if in the future i do want to extend the battery a lil more, then i will purchase a brand new battery and then replace the old one...
Turning off auto sync, turning off WiFi while on 4G works. Also make sure there's not any apps running in the background. Being root, there's apps you can download to close any open app
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What I meant was if it was possible to just use 2G for Internet connections, instead of 2G+3G+4G.
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just go into your settings of your networking section:
settings-wireless&networks-mobilenetworks-networkmode
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gsm=2g
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with CM it is an easy to safe much energy! and if you really want to do this on a right way, you really need to own a rooted system....
1. underclocked my cpu for 200mhz, dont have to comment.... if you use lightweight lounchers and care for background apps, it will noprob
2. use only 2g-networks, those are more available than every other networks, and even tcp/ip works with it, for whatsapp etc it is way enough bandwitch
very important!!!!
3. check your internal recievers after installing an app!! with "autorun manager" on a rooted device you can uncheck every function from every app, even autostart of an already killed facebook app, or statistical functions from apps which comes with most of them
4. get your brightness automated, if it is dark, you can automatically safe energy by a automatically regulation
5. maybe you would prefer to deactivate vibrations/haptic feedback/call vibration completely, its very energy consumpting.....
6. deactivate the gps-reciever complete, and just turn it on if you need it
7. set your display timeout as less than possible for your behaviour, 15 seconds may be enough
8. know what runs in background, evrything in background, sucks energy.....
9. deactivate nfc
10. deactivate bluetooth
with this i get a standby about ~1-3 days! and if im phoning and writing to much maybe not fully to one day. if i watch now on my energy tables, my display is consumpting still 40-60% battery per charge, but i dont think that even more safings would be possible
and with the app "tasker" you can even script this in endless environments
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yeah after trying juice defender for about a month or so i noticed my phones battery life extend much more. so i opted to buy the ultimate juice defender and sure enuff more battery life... i am very pleased with this app. however if in the future i do want to extend the battery a lil more, then i will purchase a brand new battery and then replace the old one...
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How does JuiceDefender save the battery? I have used many battery saver apps (including Juicedefender) and I always find that they run in the background and kill the apps which I would close anyway. Does it do anything besides kill background apps? By now I've deleted most background apps and have only kept the apps I want (which are few) and I still find battery life subpar.
Also definitely keeping 3G/4G off is a huge help. Wouldn't be able to make it very far without turning those off
I use Autorun Manager pro to freeze Google Play Services. Funnily enough, Play Store and Google Maps still work like a charm yet Google Play Services don't run background
Edited: With stock rom, install SetCPU and change the governor to hotplug. Underclock max frequency down to 800 MHz. You won't notice much different for normal tasks like watching videos, sms,...That setting is enough for me to play FF4 on MyBoy but playing heavy graphic games might not be snappy tho.
For me not using gaaps improve battery life. Every one knows for google play service that you cannot stop Instead I use calldav for my contacts.
me battery drain in me droid 4 jb 4.1.2 with gsm patch is of 60% for screen, the battery only run about 6hs, can i fix this? thanks
I've been revamping this thread for new devices for years hoping to share some of the love with newer users. Over the time I've been on android, I've learned a few simple things that can greatly assist in the battery life of our wonderful smartphones.
If you get anything out of the thread, please don't hesitate to rate it and drop me a thanks!
If you read the thread and like the tips, have a new one to suggest, or have a revision, please post it.
On a similar note, moderators, thanks for the sticky!
General Lithium Ion Battery Information - This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for both Rooted and Non-Rooted users
1.Turn off all radios when not in use.
(Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4G/Wimax/LTE, NFC, etc) Use a widget like the default power widgets, Switchpro, or a similar app from the market. *Many rooted ROMs generally allows users to access these radios and other settings from the notification pulldown menu.* The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions. A radio searching for signal (if you are in a low-signal area) drains more than a radio with good signal, so again, turn 'em off when you aren't using 'em.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to Settings>wireless & networks. This can be accessed from the notification pulldown and hitting the cog icon.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can. Another important setting to note is more dependent on the user. If you live in an area without 4G LTE coverage (check here to see), then go into Settings>Mobile data>Network Mode and check CDMA Only. This will prevent your phone from unnecessarily searching for LTE coverage, which wastes a ton of battery life.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Set your screen timeout/brightness to something that fits you.
The screen is the highest drain of battery power on any smartphone. BY setting the timeout, you can prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
Another huge tip is to turn on automatic brightness (it is enabled by default). This greatly reduces power consumption by constantly changing the brightness of your display, tailoring it to your needs.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Sleep
I use 30 seconds.
4. Task killers used to be all the rage, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
5. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to Settings>Power>History. You can compare the lines from awake to screen on versus time on. "Time on battery" refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these times and they are the same, or if you note the difference (turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same), then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
I recommend two apps to help monitor:System Panel and Better Battery Stats. These two apps (explained in their FAQ's and descriptions greatly aid in finding those rogues.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rogue" and is keeping your phone awake.
-This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 2 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
6. Apps and Combinations to watch out for!
-Facebook- Tries to sync live feed all the time, HIGHLY recommend unchecking this box, as it creates a massive draw on data
-Skype- This app reportedly (I've seen it myself) likes to sync random data and open up the network for fun. Sign out of app when not in use to fix
-GTalk- This application keeps you constantly connected to all of our google contacts across of your accounts. I have several accounts that I must maintain, and by default the application had me signed in and maintaining a connection with all of them. Open GTalk, then hit each account and sign out to neutralize this puppy. Unless of course you want to stay signed in.
7. Manage your syncing.
This is a big one, and it differs from person to person. Go to Settings>Accounts and Sync, and take a look at what's going on there. Listed app titles means that there is an account syncing data. I, for example, have four email addresses, facebook, dropbox, box, weather, etc. That is bad. You should go through and turn off syncing for nasty apps you might not have known were accessing the internet, or limit the access of apps and services that you do want to allow.
The problem lies in the way this syncing is handled. Each app/service runs on its own schedule, making it particularly likely that your phone could almost always be establishing a data connection and trying to download data for your various apps. See step 2 regarding the app Juice Defender to handle this problem.
8. Vibrate/Haptic Settings
Vibration and haptic feedback eat up a surprising amount of battery. If you have the haptic feedback enabled, then every time you press anything your phone puts out some juice to make itself dance.
Settings>Sound>Vibrate on touch
Some apps have their own haptic feedback settings, and notifications are their own set entirely.
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the Sprint HTC One Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use Rom Toolbox Pro, SetCPU, or some CPU clocking app in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.setcpu.com/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
(Note that setcpu has fallen off of the radar, but clocking your cpu to levels that suit your needs is still viable, although many argue that the android system's core management should best be left alone. Read up for yourself and make an educated decision)
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NOTES:
*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the cellphone battery is the cellphone battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 0-2 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 2-5 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, pictures or video recording, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
*I’m sure everyone doesn't agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
Hit the "THANKS" button if I help you!
Good thread, we need more informational threads like this.
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* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, 3D pics or video, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
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This isn't the Evo 3d forum Bio . Good to see another 3vo user around these parts haha.
Stickied for the time being
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This isn't the Evo 3d forum Bio . Good to see another 3vo user around these parts haha.
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Haha yep!
Nice catch though, there was a lot there to change.
Hello Biofall,
I was wondering how effective is the Snapdragon BatteryGuru app from qualcomm vs juice defender if you ever tried that app before? I have used juice defender with my EVO 3D but I didn't liked the that the app was turning off Wimax even tough my phone was charging while using it.
Not only are we fighting the screen. We are fighting the quad core processor. It seems to be very aggressive.
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Well done.
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Not only are we fighting the screen. We are fighting the quad core processor. It seems to be very aggressive.
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It's aggressive when it feels the need to ramp up. When installing several apps, the damn thing actually gets hot to the point where I put it in the freezer. [edit: this is dumb according to the device's thermal protection] I know that the components shouldn't be reaching those temps....
I'm on the lookout for more info on explicit effects of the quad core on battery life and direct ways to combat it.
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Thanks! I've been scouring for empirical info for years and I owe a lot of thanks to other people.
Turn off Juice defender. In fact, uninstall it. You will see your battery life is actually improved.
Leave the quad core component alone. If the cores aren't being used, they're offline. Offline is essentially 0 power consumption. The only case I can see improving battery by disabling cores would be for games. Otherwise, its probably detrimental.
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Turn off Juice defender. In fact, uninstall it. You will see your battery life is actually improved.
Leave the quad core component alone. If the cores aren't being used, they're offline. Offline is essentially 0 power consumption. The only case I can see improving battery by disabling cores would be for games. Otherwise, its probably detrimental.
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Juice defender has a large multitude of components. If some parts use more power for you, then you should post which of them you believe they were, before and after, possibly with battery graph screenshots.
On the last quad-core device that I had used there was a problem where the cores would ramp up unnecessarily for small tasks, so there is certainly a possibility for improvement.
On an unrelated note, there are other things that I want to add to this thread, including screenshots, so if anyone has anything to add, just tell me.
What I don't get is that a lot people seem to believe they know better than HTC's engineers. Doing things like forcing off cores, how do you know that's really saving power? For all you know, the power loss of enabling an extra core for a small task is insignificant to ramping up an already active core to do the same thing.
Sure there are some things you can do to improve power usage (such as avoiding wakelocks) but if you start changing numbers for how internal software power functions work, you should have some damn good reasons why. Even a graph isn't going to be terribly accurate unless you can substantiate the gains across multiple tests. Many of the improvements people mention often have an impact of less than 1% over the course of an entire charge, and that's nearly impossible to even measure. The battery percentage indicator is only an estimation and not only varies between device, but even varies based on the temperature!
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What I don't get is that a lot people seem to believe they know better than HTC's engineers. Doing things like forcing off cores, how do you know that's really saving power? For all you know, the power loss of enabling an extra core for a small task is insignificant to ramping up an already active core to do the same thing.
Sure there are some things you can do to improve power usage (such as avoiding wakelocks) but if you start changing numbers for how internal software power functions work, you should have some damn good reasons why. Even a graph isn't going to be terribly accurate unless you can substantiate the gains across multiple tests. Many of the improvements people mention often have an impact of less than 1% over the course of an entire charge, and that's nearly impossible to even measure. The battery percentage indicator is only an estimation and not only varies between device, but even varies based on the temperature!
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Sure man, sure. There are surely negatives associated with turning off, down, or generally altering core performance. However, taking the decisions that HTC engineers coupled with HTC software designers implemented for mass consumption as the best option for all users is foolish. The reason we have a development community revolves around that concept.
Several of the things I talk about have an impact in terms of hours the device can function without being plugged into an outlet, which has little to nothing to do with battery percent levels.
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Sure man, sure. There are surely negatives associated with turning off, down, or generally altering core performance. However, taking the decisions that HTC engineers coupled with HTC software designers implemented for mass consumption as the best option for all users is foolish. The reason we have a development community revolves around that concept.
Several of the things I talk about have an impact in terms of hours the device can function without being plugged into an outlet, which has little to nothing to do with battery percent levels.
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Battery percent or how long the device is on is still a hard comparison to make.
You could do the EXACT SAME THING on the phone twice, from full charge to dead, and you'd get a different length of time. Batteries aren't that consistent.
A couple things that bother me:
1. You stick the phone in the freezer because it gets warm. The phone already has thermal protections that keep it from overheating. The CPU can deal with far greater heat than you know (70C isn't even a problem). Anandtech was able to run it through the entire gauntlet of its tests (which are much harder on the device than just installing apps) without it ever triggering thermal protection. Most thermal protections exist solely for the battery's sake, which in itself can deal with 50C while charging, or even higher when not.
2. In almost all cases, it is better to let the CPU drive itself as fast and as hard as possible in order to finish tasks. Let it turn on all the cores and such. Because once it's done, it can go back into deep sleep, where everything is off. This is why almost all phones, not just HTC ones, are designed to do just that.
I agree with Felnarion's sentiment. Juice Defender is probably wasting more power just measuring your battery usage than it is helping you save.
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Sure man, sure. There are surely negatives associated with turning off, down, or generally altering core performance. However, taking the decisions that HTC engineers coupled with HTC software designers implemented for mass consumption as the best option for all users is foolish. The reason we have a development community revolves around that concept.
Several of the things I talk about have an impact in terms of hours the device can function without being plugged into an outlet, which has little to nothing to do with battery percent levels.
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Battery percent or how long the device is on is still a hard comparison to make.
You could do the EXACT SAME THING on the phone twice, from full charge to dead, and you'd get a different length of time. Batteries aren't that consistent.
A couple things that bother me:
1. You stick the phone in the freezer because it gets warm. The phone already has thermal protections that keep it from overheating. The CPU can deal with far greater heat than you know (70C isn't even a problem). Anandtech was able to run it through the entire gauntlet of its tests (which are much harder on the device than just installing apps) without it ever triggering thermal protection. Most thermal protections exist solely for the battery's sake, which in itself can deal with 50C while charging, or even higher when not.
2. In almost all cases, it is better to let the CPU drive itself as fast and as hard as possible in order to finish tasks. Let it turn on all the cores and such. Because once it's done, it can go back into deep sleep, where everything is off. This is why almost all phones, not just HTC ones, are designed to do just that.
I agree with Felnarion's sentiment. Juice Defender is probably wasting more power just measuring your battery usage than it is helping you save.
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You could do the same thing and get different results, but in reality strong trends in usage are reflected in battery life.
As for this the CPU discussion, all that I said was that I'd like to look at more in depth studies or core process handling. So it bothers me too.
In regards to JD, it won't be making it into the next revision of the thread, as I have noticed unnecessary draw. Honestly android implemented most of the vital operations into the OS, so it is mostly useless coupled with the other tips and just general awareness.
Finally, the xda app is acting up, sorry for the clutter.
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Thanks for the write up. I went from being a little unimpressed by battery life to blown away. Biggest saver from stock is dropping all the SYNC stuff. Totally unnecessary IMO. If you aren't consuming the news and updates (you know actually in the app), you probably don't need it refreshing. Still baffles me this is the from-the-factory type setup.
Phone used to eat 5-10% of my charge per hour with light use and barely make it through my "day" (~15hr away from charger). Now, after 6hrs. since it's been off the charger, I'm still at 91%.
Kill LTE and go to CDMA only if you don't have it in your area either, or it's still rolling out. Seemed to help too.
EDIT: And I should note my scores are with never letting the Data Connection completely sleep, so I can still get emails as they come in which I find important.
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Here's another tip: Go into Google Talk and make sure to sign yourself out if you don't use/care for the service.
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Thanks for the write up. I went from being a little unimpressed by battery life to blown away. Biggest saver from stock is dropping all the SYNC stuff. Totally unnecessary IMO. If you aren't consuming the news and updates (you know actually in the app), you probably don't need it refreshing. Still baffles me this is the from-the-factory type setup.
Phone used to eat 5-10% of my charge per hour with light use and barely make it through my "day" (~15hr away from charger). Now, after 6hrs. since it's been off the charger, I'm still at 91%.
Kill LTE and go to CDMA only if you don't have it in your area either, or it's still rolling out. Seemed to help too.
EDIT: And I should note my scores are with never letting the Data Connection completely sleep, so I can still get emails as they come in which I find important.
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Here's another tip: Go into Google Talk and make sure to sign yourself out if you don't use/care for the service.
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Solid tips man. Will update the OP. I always forget to change my mobile data to CDMA only. Also, I had three accounts signed into gtalk, which was unnecessary.
Biofall,
Nice thread.. Very very nice.
The battery issue --
When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities
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While I actually agree with what you say I do feel a bit different. I base mine on previous usage.
My days really fall into one of three areas. When you get old like me you will see your days are all about the same. :crying: My heavy use is going to be someone else light day.
For me I can judge based on different phones, kernels and roms. The 4g days I needed to have a charger at my desk. There was no way I could get through a whole day regardless of how many calls I made.
Now I am judging verse the LTE I had and and very surprised on how well its holding up even on
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heavy days.
Have you had time to try this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230403
Not sure it works, like you said some of these apps just use more than they save. I am going to see what happens over the next few days and see if I can see differences.
Your Facebook and sync statement, man do those hit home! I still have a few phones at work that these guys don't get it.
Gtalk.. beh turns on when you flash a new rom.. People have to remember to go back and shut that sucker off!
Thanks for your post, I am going to show a few people this, maybe it will open their eyes.
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
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Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
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This is what you get when you use a high performance chip.
If it was like cars.. just because the gas tank is big (battery) doesn't mean that the engine won't consume the fuel faster than a more Efficient engine (cpu) with less power.
Other phones might be able to last 3 days, but they also dont have the performance capabilities. Turn on extreme power saving and see how long the phone lasts ...
I'm using stock unbranded ROM. I also adp uninstalled all the Facebook system apps (devil-ware). With Pie + OneUI + Night mode + Dark UI apps, it's the first time I love stock. I bet your non-stock ROM + TGP is the culprit.
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
gruuvin said:
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
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A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
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A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
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YEP!
And same goes for wifi.....
wifi and cell radios can really eat up battery if they are trying to maintain a connection in areas where wifi/phone signal is weak. And app like Tasker or Automate can toggle these on and off, depending on your location, and really save battery.
Well, that probably explains a few things. I moved in to a SOLID brick building recently with double glazing everywhere and multiple solid brick internal walls. First time I've ever battled for cell and wifi signal...that does explain a lot. I guess 2 days is still pretty good. Might end up with one of those 10,000mah Chinafones eventually ;p