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It seems my android system is destroying my battery , it is always at the top of the list with display usually coming in well under. This screen shot was taken with very little use today. I upgraded the battery to the andida 1980 mah battery and I have been using juice defender ultimate and I do get a few more hours out of the device but the android system is still the largest drain. any ideas or suggestions would be great.
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It seems my android system is destroying my battery , it is always at the top of the list with display usually coming in well under. This screen shot was taken with very little use today. I upgraded the battery to the andida 1980 mah battery and I have been using juice defender ultimate and I do get a few more hours out of the device but the android system is still the largest drain. any ideas or suggestions would be great.
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here is a screen shot after restoring the phone to factory and only setting up google voice. I have never had the android system use more then the display. Is this normal?
chrisayrer said:
here is a screen shot after restoring the phone to factory and only setting up google voice. I have never had the android system use more then the display. Is this normal?
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Its normal for a stock thrill. But that doesn't mean it should be that way necessarily... I have gb on my other two phones and android system has always been toward the bottom.
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Welcome to the club. I charge mine twice a day at least.
Dude, no kidding. I charge mine 2-3 times daily, plus the whole time driving to and from work. Android eats normally 50-60% of my battery. Sadly, I still love it. Plus I work for at&t selling these things. I tried the 3500mah battery, but I hate having a naked phone.
I'm not sure what I'm doing different but my android system is at 30-39%
sent from my Lg Thrill running Thriller. Using the XDA app.
They say it's some sort of system glitch but no one knows the cause. I'm running Thriller which is amazing. Much better than stock. These phones have a lot of potential.
Change the Launer, try Launcherpro, after installing the launche reboot and see.
After a ton of research this is what I've found. I think its the answer as to why the battery is getting drained, but there doesn't seem to be a fix. I installed Juice Defender which has throttled my OS from coming on and leeching the internet whenever it feels like it. Sometimes I get cell standby, phone idle and display above android OS, which is a god send.
I found this out using Battery history and Betterbatterystats.
The main culprit seems to be the Suspend command. Google knows about this issue and LG had to of known but they released Froyo on the Thrill anyway.
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I use watchdog to monitor mine. At first I set it to alert me if it ever went above 30% which should be way to much but I got it so often I decided to move it up to 50% to give it a little extra time to "suspend" my phone. I get less alerts now so it must be working eventually but I've had it alert me at 80% before...suspend....using 80% processing power to put my phone to sleep?!?!? Thats rediculous. So you go into the "partial wake" section of betterbattery and battery history and you find out that the main culprit of keeping your phone awake and fighting "suspend" is either the "dialer" or "datatracker". Dialer seems to encompass anything that uses the internet but I could be wrong so that one is pretty broad. DataTracker turns out is your Fast Dormancy. There are many threads on the internwebs that tell you how to disable fast dormancy as its more of a neusance than usefull if the carrier isn't tuned right for it but none of these seemed to work for me so for now I'm stuck letting dialer and FD fight Suspend and just catching it when I can with Watchdog. Gingerbread can't come soon enough and hopefully its a version that fixes this as many users in the "issue" thread were using GB.
I lost tons of sleep over this and the only thing I could do was install Juice Defender. I hate depending on a 3rd party app to control and throttle everything on my phone but so far I still get all my push emails fairly instantly and really don't even notice its there, I still just hate the idea of it. but, for now it works. Yesterday I was at 27% after 17 hours of moderate use. Phone calls, emails, texts and maybe even some 3D gaming but I couldn't remember for sure. I also use Battery Graph to give myself a visual representation of my battery throughout the day and that helps me see when and where my batter is getting drained or if its going to sleep properly. Keeping my Wifi on also seems to drain it so unless I need fast internet I have it off. It doesn't seem to sleep properly when its on even if I have it set to "sleep when screen off" as the phone still likes to "partial wake" and run wild on the net.
Sorry if its long winded and confusing but after tons of research on this I've come to accept what I've found. I hope it has helped someone.
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Change the Launer, try Launcherpro, after installing the launche reboot and see.
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I also changed my launcher to Go Launcher and it helped LG Home stop using battery.
So there I started out at actually 70%. After swapping to launcher pro, rebooting, and charging, it's gradually gone down to 40%
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My android system is at 23% with GO Launcher EX. It's the third at my list with Cell Standby leading with 34%
I've been unplugged for about 2 hours now. Oddly enough my phone only says 21 minutes. Android system is back at 67% and standby is at 10%.
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You all have to remember froyo isn't the greatest when dealing with resources hence why Gingerbread was released so hopefully once we get that update things will be much better.
If you use cwm, try battery calibration. when you reset it the battery meter become more accurate.
I use up my battery from 100% downto 40%really fast. but the remaining 40% looks far more than the first 60%
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Hey so my friend came by with a thill cool phone .so I switch to straight talk wet to eBay got me a thrill every thing was cool with the phone for about a week then the battery going dead want charge so I call the guy from eBay got a battery still want charge sent phone back got money back got another thrill had a case so got a new phone still in plastic this was monday its been working good all week so today I'm working look at phone to check time had about 47% battery ten min later 3% so go to charge it want charge tried two charger not the lg charger that came with the phone. Get car on way home started steaming songs it started charging do i need to use only lg chargers or are these phones just nuts my phone is unlocked if upgrade to gingerbread will it help or will I have unlock the phone agen and my phone don't have a sd card will this hurt with upgrade this is a cool phone Sorry for the long message like the site thank you any help please
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Hey so my friend came by with a thill cool phone .so I switch to straight talk wet to eBay got me a thrill every thing was cool with the phone for about a week then the battery going dead want charge so I call the guy from eBay got a battery still want charge sent phone back got money back got another thrill had a case so got a new phone still in plastic this was monday its been working good all week so today I'm working look at phone to check time had about 47% battery ten min later 3% so go to charge it want charge tried two charger not the lg charger that came with the phone. Get car on way home started steaming songs it started charging do i need to use only lg chargers or are these phones just nuts my phone is unlocked if upgrade to gingerbread will it help or will I have unlock the phone agen and my phone don't have a sd card will this hurt with upgrade this is a cool phone Sorry for the long message like the site thank you any help please
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I've had issues using other chargers.
Not that it wouldn't charge, but the touch screen goes crazy while trying to use it on the after market charger. Once removed it was fine.
So yeah I would say only use the LG charger.
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Thank for replying will use only lg chargers can upgrade to gingerbread if I'm unlocked
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Thank for replying will use only lg chargers can upgrade to gingerbread if I'm unlocked
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You sure can, it's a straight forward process.
I DO however recommend you ask The Dark Lestat to help you, he's our head developer & most experienced on the Thrill 4G team.
Tell us of anymore bat issues pop up.
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Well phone seems to be better went to running services and stopped drm service and it's been on last night all day I'll know more tomorrow . So I can upgrade to gingerbread would like to do that this phone is new and I new to the smartphones . Thanks
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Ok I'm a noob when it comes to phones I need step by step to upgrade to gingerbread I tried with update tool it won't see my phone my phone is unlocked got it off eBay it was new please help
Hi everyone, I need help finding out what is wrong with my Hero before I throw it out the window!!! I am having HORRIBLE battery life. I can unplug it and it's dead within 30 minutes at times. I am running the latest CyanogenMod 7 (GingerBread) 2.3 on the C Spire (Cellular South) network. I have recalibrate my battery to see if it would help but no change. I have also changed chargers but no change. I have checked to see if there is an app draining it but nothing is draining it no more then usual. This has been going on for weeks and when it started happening I had not changed anything on my phone. It just started happening out of the blue. Now I am having bigger problems out of it now that it is having trouble even getting a charge. For instance, when I plug it in sometimes it will charge and sometimes it won't. Sometimes it will start charging then stop. Like I said, I have changed chargers so I know it isn't a bad charger. Also the biggest problem now is that when I do get it to charge, it won't charge past 86%. It will stay there til I unplug it then it will drain down to 60% within 10-15 minutes, so now I can't even recalibrate the battery now to see if it will help. I thought well maybe my battery is bad but when I check the battery health in the settings it says Good. I do not have another battery to test it against. I also have freezing problems. Somethings it will freeze up and will not unfreeze. I will have to eventually take out the battery and reboot it. Then if I don't let it set for a little bit after I reboot it and I touch it during that time, then it will freeze again and I have to reboot it again. I really LOVE my phone, I have had it for a little over a year now! I have never had any problems like this out of it! PLEASE HELP ME!!! THIS PHONE IS DRIVING ME CRAZY NOW!!!! THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
Anyone? PLEASE!
I just tried my sis in law's battery and no change. She has an HTC Hero also.
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After a complete drain, Charge while its off overnight then turn on but into recovery so u can erase battery stats. Then reboot
Either way I'd still spend the $5 and u can probably find free shipping for black Friday.
U can also try a ROM called hero deck without adding anything. This ROM rocks on the battery life. Then for giggles put it in airplane mode with wifi off to see if it drains...
Good luck
V's CDMA Hero
It will not charge while it is off, that is another problem I'm having.
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It is not the battery cause I put my battery in my sis in law's phone and she played on it forever and the battery did not drain and it also charged fast. I put her battery in my phone and it drained fast and would hardly charge, just like my battery does in my phone. So it is not a battery problem, it has something to do with my phone. BUT WHAT?!?!
Just to rule out if something didn't went wrong during flash of CM7. Try a different ROM and see if it same issue.
I did, I tried the ROM vidaljs suggested. Still draining my battery!
What charger ru using?
Is it different than ur sisters charger. That could be the problem.
I use a blackberry charger that has the same power output. So verify that the wires are not damaged and if it's not the hero charger then verify the proper power output.
V's CDMA Hero
I have used HTC charger, Blackberry charger, and Garmin GPS charger all with the some result, slow to no charge. The main problem is it draining too fast. Last night I unplugged my phone, which was on 40%, walked next door to my sis and bro in law's house, which is about 100 ft away, when I walked in their house it was on 11%!
Any suggestions?
Well if u visually look into the female plug on phone.. does it look damaged?
If not perhaps it may just be damaged in another way.
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It looks fine. I had a Hero before this one and the charger port did break but this one looks ok!
Well I have kinda solved my problem! I have the cable to my charger pulled tight and taped to the side of it and it is charging now, but it take literally all day and all night for it to get a full charge! It still drains FAST when unplugged! This still does not explain the fast battery drain and how it still won't charge on other chargers that I know work! Oh well, C Spire has a Holiday Sale going and I can get a Samsung Galaxy S for FREE, plus my $65 replacement fee since I have only completed 20 months of my 24 months! So $65 for a Samsung Galaxy S sounds like a good deal to me!!! This might be one of my Christmas presents from my hubby! I might get him one too! Gonna miss my Hero though! Good times, good times!!!
Right on.... ur issue still bugs me when j think about... but a new phone compared to the hero is awesome. I got the nexus S 4g last week for free except for taxes and activation and it is awesome.
So the galaxy does sound like a great plan and gift
Good luck
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I just (10 min ago) went to check the time on my phone, and when I grabbed it, it was extremely hot. When I turned it over (I put it face down at night so the notification led doesn't bug me) it was showing the battery charging screen except it was a question mark. The phone was plugged in since 10 pm (its 5 am now) and when it had cooled down enough I turned it back on and it said I only had 50%, even though it had been charging all night. Has anyone else had similar overheating issues, and should I return it for a new phone?
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Tried a hard reset? If ao, return the phone is what I would do. No way its supposed to drain that quick or heat up. Charging, navigating and playing music over BT and my phone is warm, not hot.
Had a similar issue about 3 weeks ago. Wasn't plugged in charging though. It was just sitting in my pocket. I thought it felt warm against my leg so I pulled it out and the phone was super hot! Turned the phone off immediately, let it cool down, and it hasn't done it since.
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The other day I was charging (stock moto AC charger) my battery (40%) and downloading stuff via 4g and mine got to 46 degrees C. I slid open the keyboard and put it in a opening of a vent that was blowing 60 degree F air. 1 hr latter battery was 80% +/- and i dl'd more stuff.
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You said there was a battery with a question mark. Was your phone booted up at this point, or were you in the 'battery charging mode'?
Sounds like the phone overheated, which can sometimes happen. You could try to get a replacement, but unless it happens consistently they might give you trouble trying to return it.
The annoying thing is, they say our batteries aren't supposed to be removed. It was nice being able to swap in a spare when my wife was done with her A855 moto Droid and same with having a "spare" incredible...
Anyone know the reason they made ours not come out?
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It is my understanding that they used a special type of battery to get it so thin. The downside to this special type of battery is that they are easily bendable, but explode when bent
As a result, they don't want anybody touching the battery and exploding themselves.
Somebody who is more knowledgeable in battery tech could probably give a better explanation.
Couple weeks ago I was using the GPS and had the phone on the Motorola cardock while plugged in (with a Verizon charger) to the car. Took the phone off to make a call and I literally couldn't touch it. I kept it on the side and opened the battery doctor app, told me the battery was 58C. Immediately pulled aside and turned off my phone. Stupid phone has the locked battery door also so I couldn't pull it off to let the battery cool faster. Worst battery door design by Motorola.
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You said there was a battery with a question mark. Was your phone booted up at this point, or were you in the 'battery charging mode'?
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It had been booted, it wasn't in charge only mode. I forgot to mention I was on cm9 april 27 build. Its been working since then.
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Hi,
My IncS has started playing up over the past week or so.
Every night now, when I get up in the morning I have to remove the battery from the phone and power it back up as it has totally frozen.
Another weird thing is the battery is normally really drained once I have it powered back up. Doesn't have any problems during the day at all, never freezes or anything but overnight when it is plugged in to charge,it dies.
I've tried replacing the battery (I had a spare) as it only happens when mains charging and, like I said, when it is turned back on the battery is substantially lower then when it was plugged in but that didn't help.
I tried totally wiping the phone and installing a new ROM (szeszo's lovely new cyanogen with his Tesco kernal) and it is still happening...
Anyone else experienced this? Any idea what's caused it? And finally, does anyone know a way I can do so kind of logs about what is going on?
Thanks...
I had the same issue too. Was USB connector related. Had to sent my device to htc repair
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Interesting! Maybe I'll have it apart and resolder the connections... see if that helps. Thanks for the info
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Interesting! Maybe I'll have it apart and resolder the connections... see if that helps. Thanks for the info
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Try a different USB cable on the charger
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Unfortunately it didn't turn out to be the USB port or cable. Thanks for the suggestions though.
It started freezing when it wasn't plugged in at all and it was doing my nut in...
Yesterday I bought a Note 2 and it gets delivered today. I know, it's huge and I'll probably end up selling it on when I get fed up of having to carry it round in a wheel barrow
It is such a damn shame to be putting the IncS to sleep at last. It's been a damn good phone for a long time (probably the longest I've ever used 1 phone for!). Somehow I can't imaging the Note being as well made as this was. The moment HTC do a Nexus phone I'll be selling whatever I have and buying up cos that will be awesome.
Anyway, guess I'll be off to the Note forums now.
Later guys, and thanks...
After returning 4 docks with a date of 2013.10 I finally received a dock with the date of 2013.11. Should I be happy or pissed that I didn't receive a dock dated 2013.12? I heard the November docks fixed the hinge problem but there might be a battery problem with this version. Can anyone confirm this or if there are other problems? I'm going to do extensive testing in the mean time. Thanks.
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I'd be surprised if there were 2013.12 dock out there.
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brianhill1980 said:
I'd be surprised if there were 2013.12 dock out there.
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Before ASUS starting denying that the 2013.09 and 2013.10 builds were defective, a few people claimed that ASUS confirmed those builds were defective and that the 2013.11 and 2013.12 builds fixed the problem. I haven't heard anyone receiving 2013.12 so i'm not sure they exist either.
But anyway, I fully charged the tablet and dock to 100% each and now I'm going to see if there are any problems as the battery drains. Interestingly it seems that both the tablet and dock are draining at the same time. Currently the tablet is at 96% and the dock is at 98%. I don't remember it doing that with the orginal dock. The charge light on the tablet used to be on as if the dock was charging the tablet. There are no lights currently on but it may be too soon for any conclusions.
Are both the tablet and the dock updated to the newest available firmware?
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So how is the dock connection to the tablet? Does it feel like there is less play? Any Disconnects? Where did you purchase it?
(Amazon just put the dock back on "Defect/Hold".)
Thanks for posting your results.
david31262 said:
So how is the dock connection to the tablet? Does it feel like there is less play? Any Disconnects? Where did you purchase it?
(Amazon just put the dock back on "Defect/Hold".)
Thanks for posting your results.
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Yes the first thing I did was update the firmware. I bought the dock from Amazon. Here is my review on Amazon with everything I went through with returns: Review
The connection feels much tighter. I can't make it disconnect by adjusting the tablet angle. I inserted an SD card in the tablet for an easy test with disconnects because it prepares the card whenever you insert it or when it reconnects. The only time I notice the SD card re-preparing is when the tablet is in the closed position and then opened.
As for the battery issue: I jumped the gun when I said the tablet and dock depleted at the same time. The dock depleted to 98% then stopped. The tablet continued to deplete up to around 60% (ish) at that point the charging light went on the tablet and the dock started to charge the tablet. Tablet made it up to about 88% as the dock completely drained to point where I could not use it anymore. Disconnecting the dock and reconnecting it for some reason returned 7% but still continued to deplete.
This sounds like a software issue that a firmware update could fix. Someone else said that disconnecting and reconnecting the dock when the dock starts to charge the tablet will allow the tablet to drain further before the dock kicks in.
What needs to happen is the tablet needs to provide power to the keyboard when it is drained or the dock needs to stop charging the tablet when it is low on power, allowing the dock to still be usable.
Battery Issue: Wow step forward / step back. The dock is now just mostly useless (assuming it drains after the first few hours of use).
Thanks for the update.
I'm surprised the dock charges any differently between the older and the 2013.11 versions. Hopefully, they can fix this one in the firmware. It might be worth an E-Mail or call to Asus to see how they want to explain this one.
I have 2013.11 edition, I bought tablet from local shop (Czech Republic) 2 weeks ago. My dock have only one problem, in specific angel keyboard doesn't work.. so I have to "open it" more / less. (I will try to change keyboard) But other things seems OK
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david31262 said:
Battery Issue: Wow step forward / step back. The dock is now just mostly useless (assuming it drains after the first few hours of use).
Thanks for the update.
I'm surprised the dock charges any differently between the older and the 2013.11 versions. Hopefully, they can fix this one in the firmware. It might be worth an E-Mail or call to Asus to see how they want to explain this one.
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I'm not 100% sure it did. Maybe since we had to always reconnect the dock with the 2013.10 version we never noticed it since undocking the tablet allows the tablet to drain a little further. Unless the dock/tablet was completely still I was never able to go a whole batter cycle with the old dock without it disconnecting.
I'll let someone else contact ASUS. I'm tired of their terrible customer service. Especially since they lied to me about the defective dock.
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I'm not 100% sure it did. Maybe since we had to always reconnect the dock with the 2013.10 version we never noticed it since undocking the tablet allows the tablet to drain a little further. Unless the dock/tablet was completely still I was never able to go a whole batter cycle with the old dock without it disconnecting.
I'll let someone else contact ASUS. I'm tired of their terrible customer service. Especially since they lied to me about the defective dock.
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I have filled in their customer service feedback with poor all over the ratings. Let's see if I hear back from them. I doubt it. I did laugh at their claim that they are aiming to become the best customer focussed company in the business
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I have filled in their customer service feedback with poor all over the ratings. Let's see if I hear back from them. I doubt it. I did laugh at their claim that they are aiming to become the best customer focussed company in the business
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Well saying they're "aiming" does imply they're not even close yet, doesn't it? At least that's honest! LOL
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I might consider returning both the tablet and dock and get a Dell venue 11. I'm very disappointed in the build quality and customer support from Asus. I started noticing flickering on the screen and black boxes in Chrome as well. It hasn't been as bad as what some other users have experienced but it was enough to really piss me off.
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OK very interesting update. The first time, when both dock and tablet were at 100%, the dock began to charge the tablet once it reached about 70%. Then when the dock was depleated, the keyboad did not work anymore. I also said when I undocked it and reconnected the keyboard had 7% left for some reason and continued to work. I just assumed it would stop working again as it drained. So I charged it all back up and ran the tablet for a little last night. Reached 70%, dock started charging the tablet and after the dock depleated to about 75%, I shut off the tablet for the night. I did not however plug it in. I noticed the dock was still charging the tablet so I assumed he dock would be dead the next morning. I didn't turn on the tablet untill now, (doing a ton of research at work on the dell venue.) I turned on the tablet and noticed the dock was at 0% BUT it is still working. I'm typing all of this right now using the dock and its at 0%. I don't know why it stoped working when it reached 0 yesterday but this is great news.
My new experiment will be to start all over again at 100%,, let the dock deplete, see if it stops working again and if it does, undock and redock to see if it continues to work. If not maybe just a reset will let it work again at 0%. If this is the case then I would consider the tablet not defective with the 2013.11 batch. The black squares I only noticed once in Chrome. I'm going to monitor the flickering. These issues have nothing to do with the dock.
I've got the flickering and black boxes in chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, so I don't think that issue is the transformers fault.
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I've got the flickering and black boxes in chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, so I don't think that issue is the transformers fault.
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Chrome sucks on my Nexus 5 as well. It's an all round bad browser on Android. Shame.
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Chrome sucks on my Nexus 5 as well. It's an all round bad browser on Android. Shame.
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I've got the flickering and black boxes in chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, so I don't think that issue is the transformers fault.
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Yeah it is a shame. I like the fact that the bookmarks sycs across all my devices, Home, work, phone, tablet. But it does seem a little buggy on my tablets. I'm glad those issues are not specific to the TF701.
Unless I find any other major problem between now and the end of the month, I guess i'm not going to return this unit for a different tablet. I'll finally be able to root this sucker and install your ROM sbdags. BTW, thanks for that. This is the longest I had an android device, since my first android phone, that I didn't root. Didn't want to mess with anything in case I had to return it.
So it is confirmed, if the dock stops working after its battery is depleted all you have to do is undock it once and reconnect and it should continue to work.
Hi Guys,
some of these problems are already discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530069
Some people (including me) confirm the black squares in Chrome disappear after FW update or hard reset.
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So it is confirmed, if the dock stops working after its battery is depleted all you have to do is undock it once and reconnect and it should continue to work.
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Thanks for the update. It doesn't seem quite right though - when the dock battery depletes you should still be able to type without undocking/redocking, in my mind at least. Can owners of previous Transformers (TF101, TF300, TF700) confirm how their docks behave when the dock battery depletes?
Doesn't the dock need power to run?
pelago said:
Thanks for the update. It doesn't seem quite right though - when the dock battery depletes you should still be able to type without undocking/redocking, in my mind at least. Can owners of previous Transformers (TF101, TF300, TF700) confirm how their docks behave when the dock battery depletes?
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