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How does the Jewel match up to other contenders in terms of Display?
All I know the screen on the Gem is looking GREAT!!
Anyone?
AFAIK 480x640 is the highest res available on a phone.
MrDerrickC said:
AFAIK 480x640 is the highest res available on a phone.
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Wooow yes I sort of knew bout this but where you getting the info, bro?
800x480
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AFAIK 480x640 is the highest res available on a phone.
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Actually look at my signature - I had a Toshiba Portege G900 about a year ago and it had an 800x480 display and it was just 3 inches. So info is not accurate. It also had a slide out keyboard fingerprint authentication and was kinda ugly but the display was breathtaking... Sony Xperia will also use the same display!
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Actually look at my signature - I had a Toshiba Portege G900 about a year ago and it had an 800x480 display and it was just 3 inches. So info is not accurate. It also had a slide out keyboard fingerprint authentication and was kinda ugly but the display was breathtaking... Sony Xperia will also use the same display!
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Some screen shots of such device I must see
Pic please!!
800x480 is kind of pointless.
The Diamond's 640x480 at 2.8 inch display equals 286 ppi. The naked human eye can't distinguish details beyond 250-300 ppi.
Should you have a higher resolution, you would need a magnifying glass to notice it. Hence a higher resolution on a display of that size is a waste of pixels.
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800x480 is kind of pointless.
The Diamond's 640x480 at 2.8 inch display equals 286 ppi. The naked human eye can't distinguish details beyond 250-300 ppi.
Should you have a higher resolution, you would need a magnifying glass to notice it. Hence a higher resolution on a display of that size is a waste of pixels.
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I see your point - but I am designer and have been for 10 years and can easily tell the difference between 600 DPI and and 300DPI and that is also for PPI - as far as the display on the Portege is concerned it was by far the sharpest and best display I have used on any device also it was true widescreen so the extra pixels where definitely not a waste.
Put it this way a website when scaled down in say Opera will look noticeably better on the 800x480 screen than it would 640x480 and thats fact, when it comes to fonts as long as you have good eyesight there are far more readable smaller in that res. Also you can have a higher PPI setting for the overall OS allowing more info to be displayed on a today screen - but for that you need good eyes lol
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I see your point - but I am designer and have been for 10 years and can easily tell the difference between 600 DPI and and 300DPI and that is also for PPI - as far as the display on the Portege is concerned it was by far the sharpest and best display I have used on any device also it was true widescreen so the extra pixels where definitely not a waste.
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Well, there is a significant difference between PPI and DPI. In the case of DPI it's actual dots surrounded by white areas (if the paper is white). Pixels on the other hand, when back-lighted provide optically more of a gradient. As a result you can spot difference in details somewhere between 500-600 dpi, while the limit for PPI is about 300. Of course it depends on the distance at which you are looking and how good your sight is.
The 800x640 on a 3 inch screen gives sqrt(800^2+480^2)/3 =~311 PPI while the Diamond's screen is sqrt(640^2+480^2)/2.8 =~286 PPI. So they are both in the 300 dpi ballpark.
As for the extra pixels on the Protege - well, of course - it has a bigger screen and extra screen space is always valuable, there's no denying that.
My point was simply that for a screen size like the Diamond's there is little use in significantly increasing the resolution - the human eye simply can't see the difference. If you have a larger screen, then of course you'll need higher resolution to get the same PPI. (Standard computer TFTs are by the way usually in the 80-100 PPI range).
Cool.
I put the Diamond next to its biggest contenders.
Fruitphone, BB Bold First in the world to have it in Chile!!!, Nokia 95 8gb. etcc..
All the mentioned above had a crappy screen compared to the Diamond on full brightness.
All the contenders ran away with there tails in between their legs
So yes simply with the naked eye you can really tell the difference between the high res we have on the Jewel.
Hello, I'm 16 years old and I would love to buy a new device. I would like to buy V, only I am unsure about it's screen size.
I am a tech geek and I certainly appreciate bigger screens and plan to play some games on it and surf a lot but not watch videos.
Also, it must be small enough to go to school and rest.
I am worried if 4.3 inch is too small.
Do you think your Xperia V has small screen? Please post your thoughts.
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Hello, I'm 16 years old and I would love to buy a new device. I would like to buy V, only I am unsure about it's screen size.
I am a tech geek and I certainly appreciate bigger screens and plan to play some games on it and surf a lot but not watch videos.
Also, it must be small enough to go to school and rest.
I am worried if 4.3 inch is too small.
Do you think your Xperia V has small screen? Please post your thoughts.
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I was always annoyed about my HTC Desire's small display before buying my XV. However, I have never wanted a huge 5 inch display, as it is simply too big imo.
The Xperia V was the compromise I was looking for: Small enough to easily fit into my pocket, yet still having a sufficient resolution for gaming and web browsing. Actually, in the 6 months that I've been having this phone now, I've never found a reason to say that my display is too small for any purpose.
So, i think buying the phone was definitely the right decision.. Go for the XV if you like it!
Just one more thing.. If you're doing a lot of games (and I know, school days can be long! ;D) have a look at the Xperia SP as well.. Has nearly double battery life compared to the XV, at otherwise pretty similar specifications.. ^^
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I think screen size is only one criteria. Others are pixel density, trueness to real colours, and contrast (readability in daylight). Don't look at factory pics or factory home screen setup. These are optimised to make that particular phone look good.
The V screen has a good pixel density, but is not that good in terms of light leakage and viewing angle.
Depending on hand size, you might perceive a screen of 4.7 or 5 inches even as inconvenient. You may not be able to reach certain functions in one go or with one hand anymore.
The Nexus 5 looks and runs great, but everything's so big I feel like I'm using a toy phone. The PPI really would have made more sense on a 4.5/4.7" screen (or even a 4" screen for us small-handed), and for a budget phone I would have expected 720p (pixels) resolution. This would use less battery which would require less battery so it could have kept about the same thinness (but I'm perfectly happy adding thickness and heft for more battery).
I don't understand Google's thinking behind this phone. It's a great-quality phone, but it's just too big for the things on the screen. They look great about 10 inches away but normal distance from my face, about 7", everything just looks oversized. I feel like at this screen size they could have added another column or row to the launcher and had them match up to the bottom dock shortcuts.
I know how to change the PPI, but I would just more like to know what made Google decide to go with such huge icons and fonts on such a large screen with full HD (1080p) resolution and not add any more real estate to things like Chrome or Settings or anything.
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The Nexus 5 looks and runs great, but everything's so big I feel like I'm using a toy phone. The PPI really would have made more sense on a 4.5/4.7" screen (or even a 4" screen for us small-handed), and for a budget phone I would have expected 720p (pixels) resolution. This would use less battery which would require less battery so it could have kept about the same thinness (but I'm perfectly happy adding thickness and heft for more battery).
I don't understand Google's thinking behind this phone. It's a great-quality phone, but it's just too big for the things on the screen. They look great about 10 inches away but normal distance from my face, about 7", everything just looks oversized. I feel like at this screen size they could have added another column or row to the launcher and had them match up to the bottom dock shortcuts.
I know how to change the PPI, but I would just more like to know what made Google decide to go with such huge icons and fonts on such a large screen with full HD (1080p) resolution and not add any more real estate to things like Chrome or Settings or anything.
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You don't change the PPI, you change the density lol
The Nexus 5 isn't really meant to be as much of a "budget phone" as it is a "developer device" (officially for AOSP, and unofficially on here) or "reference device for other OEMs", hence why it has a 1080p display and a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800. It just happens to be cheaper as they also cut some corners (and probably to make it burn a smaller hole in developer's wallets).
Anyways, nothing looks "oversized" without changing the density. Most (if not, then all) Android devices have the density set relative to the resolution (NOT physical screen size nor pixels per inch) as well as what sort of device it is (phone or tablet). It's a standard, not "whatever the OEM wants", if an OEM wants something to appear smaller or larger in their bloated system apps, they're going to modify the app itself, not change the density (which affects ALL apps rather than just the intended). I also have a Note 3 (which I never use and just gathers dust), it's the same resolution but much larger, and the stock density on that is also set to 480 (same as the Nexus 5). I also know that the HTC One (M8) and OnePlus One are also set to 480. Just about ANY Android phone with a 1080p display uses 480 (stock, at least), I don't know of one that doesn't.
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The Nexus 5 looks and runs great, but everything's so big I feel like I'm using a toy phone. The PPI really would have made more sense on a 4.5/4.7" screen (or even a 4" screen for us small-handed), and for a budget phone I would have expected 720p (pixels) resolution. This would use less battery which would require less battery so it could have kept about the same thinness (but I'm perfectly happy adding thickness and heft for more battery).
I don't understand Google's thinking behind this phone. It's a great-quality phone, but it's just too big for the things on the screen. They look great about 10 inches away but normal distance from my face, about 7", everything just looks oversized. I feel like at this screen size they could have added another column or row to the launcher and had them match up to the bottom dock shortcuts.
I know how to change the PPI, but I would just more like to know what made Google decide to go with such huge icons and fonts on such a large screen with full HD (1080p) resolution and not add any more real estate to things like Chrome or Settings or anything.
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I liked more the Galaxy Nexus size. Based on my experience "width" is what matters for one-handed phones.
However....5" is not bad. The only f***** thing here is the resolution. 1080p is a waste for a simple 5" screen.
It must be something slightly bigger than 720 without jumping to 1080.
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I have no problem with the dpi [emoji4]
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I liked more the Galaxy Nexus size. Based on my experience "width" is what matters for one-handed phones.
However....5" is not bad. The only f***** thing here is the resolution. 1080p is a waste for a simple 5" screen.
It must be something slightly bigger than 720 without jumping to 1080.
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1080 isn't a waste at all. Its HD. If it makes sense on a 32" TV several feet away, it makes sense on a 5".screen several inches away. Its called "viewing distance".
Choosing some arbitrary resolution between 720 and 1080 is a silly idea. These resolutions are a global standard and media content is created to these standards. Choosing something win between would mean no content was optimised for our display so something would be lost in the downscaling or upscaling.
1080p is perfect for the distance you view it. If you sit 1 metre away from a 50" 1080p TV, it won't look HD. It will look lower blocky. That is because the pixels are literally bigger than a 32" TV of the same resolution. Its designed to be viewed from further away. As you move the TV further away, the image gets clearer as the pixels appear smaller.
All PPI is about is measuring the amount of pixels in an inch. This is a fixed value. A 1080 screen always has the same amount of pixels. This means the pixels are bigger on a bigger screen, so the PPI decreases. The smaller the PPI is, the further away you would expect to view it from.
1080p on a 5" screen would be ridiculous if the device was intended to be used at over 1 metre away though. Because that is beyond the optimum viewing distance. It would mean that the image again lost detail.
I think 2k and 4k on this size screen is over kill. But that's not because of these reasons. We would definitely notice a sharper image on the display. The problem is that there is a massive performance hit. The GPU works harder meaning its slower than it would be on a lower resolution. It uses battery because of this.since there is very little content, its not a worthwhile trade off at this time.
That said though, visually it would look better. The screen may need to be 6" to really get the benefit though. Otherwise the PPI would be too high for the viewing distance and your need to move the display closer than the screen closer than the usual distance to get the full effect
DPI is something entirely different. That's what causes the assets on screen (buttons, icons etc) to appear bigger or smaller.
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Yeah I know all that. Just saying...1080 is a waste for a 5". A waste of GPU and resources.
We don't really need more than 330ppi on a Phone....
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thesebastian said:
Yeah I know all that. Just saying...1080 is a waste for a 5". A waste of GPU and resources.
We don't really need more than 330ppi on a Phone....
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Your first sentence directly contradicts your last sentence. If you understood optimal viewing distances you would know that we do need a higher PPI. Why should we be restricted to lower quality videos on a mobile phone?
Yes,it uses more resources to play higher resolution content. But its not a waste because a majority of content is at that resolution
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Well at the distance I use the phone 330ppi is optimal!
I think 330 is ok for phones. Look at the iPhones they've a good screen without having 400+ PPI.
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Well at the distance I use the phone 330ppi is optimal!
I think 330 is ok for phones. Look at the iPhones they've a good screen without having 400+ PPI.
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I can see you're still a bit confused about your argument. PPI is not the unit of measure you should be using. It does nothing to tell us resolution OR screensize so as a number on it's own is entirely useless.
PPI is just a result of resolution and screen size
PPI = width squared + length squared, divided by the square root of screen size.
Optimal viewing distance is about resolution and screen size. The bigger a screen, the further away it needs to be for the resolution to be correct. You can't say "330ppi is optimal" because that's not how it works. You can have 2 completely different resolutions with the same PPI.
For example, on a 5" screen, 720x1500 would be 330 PPI.
Similarly, on a 10" screen, 1500x2950 would be 330 PPI.
The optimal viewing distance of both these example screens is completely different so to say that 330PPI is optimal for a distance is wholly wrong. You cannot use PPI as a valid unit of measure unless you first specify a screen size. There is no such thing as optimal viewing distance for a PPI.
Optimal viewing distance is about resolution and screen size. If you stick to 1 resolution (lets use 1080p as the obvious example), the optimal viewing distance of a 5" screen is less than the optimal viewing distance of a 10" screen. This is because the pixels are bigger on the 10" screen. if you compare an image on a 10" screen to an image of a 5" screen at the same resolution AND distance, and at the opwholeytimal viewing distance of the 5" screen, the 4" image will be crisp and share where as the 10" image will be blocky. You have to increase the viewing distance of the 10" screen to get the same crisp image.
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You can practice this yourself. Put a 1080p movie on your Phone and TV. Watch the movie on your phone at 5" from your face. Watch teh movie on the TV at the same distance. Forget the fact you cannot see the entire screen. Focus on the centre of the screen. You will be able to pick out individual pixels and the section of the screen you are looking at will not appear as a single image. Just a series of blocks. The bigger your TV, the more noticeable this will be.
To get a 330 PPI value on a 4.95" screen like the nexus 5, and maintain 16:9 aspect ratio, you'd be looking at 1450x816 resolution. There are ways to work out optimal viewing distances, but it's quite complex. If you're interested, you can find that information here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance
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VD: Viewing distance
DS: Display's diagonal size
NHR: Display's native horizontal resolution (in pixels)
NVR: Display's native vertical resolution (in pixels)
CVR: Vertical resolution of the video being displayed (in pixels)
The optimal viewing distance for a screen the size of a nexus 5 is 7.2 inches (0.6 foot) - which is about what we hold it at.*
*based on:
http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/tv-screen-size-calculator/
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html
Now I suppose when we get up to 2k and 4k, there will be a problem. At that distance, the human eye may fail to recognise a difference between 1080p and higher resolutions. To get benefit, the screen would need to be bigger and further away...although some say for those holding the screen right up close to their face, characters will look better
All that said, I can recognise a difference between 720p and 1080p at that distance. So yeah, 1080p is about for a screen our size. Or also for a tablet, which typically would use ant a slightly further way distance than a phone.
So really, it all depends on your eyesight or how short your arms are. If you hold the phone too close to your face, 1080p is not optimal on a 5" screen. You would probably want a smaller screen or a higher resolution, otherwise it may appear blocky. At the appropriate distance for a mobile phone, anything over 1080p may be pointless but bringing it closer may prove beneficial, but that could cause eye strain as you're focusing too close.
There is a really useful chart here
In summary:
If you hold your phone further than the optimal distance, you may get away with losing some resolution as the further away it is, the less you'll notice. OR you need a bigger screen to make it the optimal viewing distance for that resolution
If you hold your phone closer than the optimal distance, you could need to get a higher resolution OR a smaller screen
Like TV's, you should buy the size or resolution based on your fixed viewing distance. For a TV, its the resolution standard of 1080p (because most of our content is that resolution) then you look at the distance your sofa is from the TV stand and buy the correct size. Assuming you need the same resolution for content on your phone, you look at the distance and buy the appropriate screen size. People who hold their phones closer will want a smaller screen for 1080. People who hold them further away will want a bigger screen at that resolution. This trend will continue as content resolution increases, but this cannot go on forever.
Yeah sorry, when i said "phone" i was meant aproximately 5"... Not 4" or 6" or much more.
I was trying to say that I prefer a 5" screen with 720p than a 5" screen with 1080p. Regardless of the lose of quality.
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Yeah sorry, when i said "phone" i was meant aproximately 5"... Not 4" or 6" or much more.
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Ok no worries.
As I say, it depends on how good your eyes are and how far away you hold your phone. 1080 is about right for a 5" screen if you have 20/20 vision and hold your phone an average distance from your face, so the 1080p resolution is the average for our phone.
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I was trying to say that I prefer a 5" screen with 720p than a 5" screen with 1080p. Regardless of the lose of quality.
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So then this probably means that you hold your phone a little further away than average... and if you do that's fine. It just means that you're outside the bounds of what a Nexus 5 is catered for, which is the masses (average)
EDIT > I'm like you though, but with 1080. 1080 is great for me with a 5" screen. A higher resolution at that size would be almost pointless for me as I would need to hold it closer, so to get a 2k phone, I would need a bigger screen size as holding it closer isn't really an option.
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EDIT > I'm like you though, but with 1080. 1080 is great for me with a 5" screen. A higher resolution at that size would be almost pointless for me as I would need to hold it closer, so to get a 2k phone, I would need a bigger screen size as holding it closer isn't really an option.
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Just thought I'd say I agree with you lol 1080p is enough on a phone, for most. On a tablet however, higher than 1080p would be pretty nice if the specifications support it decently.
Lethargy said:
Just thought I'd say I agree with you lol 1080p is enough on a phone, for most. On a tablet however, higher than 1080p would be pretty nice if the specifications support it decently.
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Yeah. I also forgot to say that bigger than a 5" screen is also not an option for me as I cant reach everywhere one handed. So I cannot increase screen size and I cannot ergonomically reduce viewing distance, so I am stuck at 1080. With a tablet, one-handed operation wouldn't be a restriction, so I could increase screen size. My viewing distance would be largely the same, so the 1080p resolution could get blocky with a bigger screen if I don't increase the resolution.
Not sure what the next gen of phones I buy will offer. I'm possibly willing to go up to 5.5". BUT I don't think that increase in size would warrant an increase in resolution for me. So if OEM's start to make 2k the standard, I'm going to have a problem.
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Yeah. I also forgot to say that bigger than a 5" screen is also not an option for me as I cant reach everywhere one handed. So I cannot increase screen size and I cannot ergonomically reduce viewing distance, so I am stuck at 1080. With a tablet, one-handed operation wouldn't be a restriction, so I could increase screen size. My viewing distance would be largely the same, so the 1080p resolution could get blocky with a bigger screen if I don't increase the resolution.
Not sure what the next gen of phones I buy will offer. I'm possibly willing to go up to 5.5". BUT I don't think that increase in size would warrant an increase in resolution for me. So if OEM's start to make 2k the standard, I'm going to have a problem.
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The Nexus 5's 4.95" and 1080p already feels perfect.. I have a Note 3 and never use it since I hate the size (and not to mention being a Samsung product). I have a feeling that if newer devices are going to be larger, I'll be sticking with my Nexus 5 for a little longer.
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The Nexus 5's 4.95" and 1080p already feels perfect.. I have a Note 3 and never use it since I hate the size (and not to mention being a Samsung product). I have a feeling that if newer devices are going to be larger, I'll be sticking with my Nexus 5 for a little longer.
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True that.. Note 2/3 have attractive amoled screens, but when it comes to an actual professional pure crisp and sharp screen nexus 5 is damm good.. Extremely sharp and natural colors
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The Nexus 5's 4.95" and 1080p already feels perfect.. I have a Note 3 and never use it since I hate the size (and not to mention being a Samsung product). I have a feeling that if newer devices are going to be larger, I'll be sticking with my Nexus 5 for a little longer.
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I think for a lot of people, 5" is the sweet spot.
ali262883 said:
True that.. Note 2/3 have attractive amoled screens, but when it comes to an actual professional pure crisp and sharp screen nexus 5 is damm good.. Extremely sharp and natural colors
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AMOLED.. Personally I think they're ugh. Mostly people who do nothing but Facebook/etc on their silly Samsung devices (aka the majority) say its better, but colour reproduction means nothing to them. Lol. I love the Nexus 5's screen.
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AMOLED.. Personally I think they're ugh. Mostly people who do nothing but Facebook/etc on their silly Samsung devices (aka the majority) say its better, but colour reproduction means nothing to them. Lol. I love the Nexus 5's screen.
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Its a compromise. LCD is better colour reproduction but then Amoled have individual pixel lighting, meaning pure black saves energy and also can be used as a night clock without the entire backlight panel lighting up the room.
2 ways to address this.
1) Colour profiles for AMOLED.
2) LED backlighting like TV's for LCD
I love my lcd screen more than my friend's s4 amoled screen [emoji14].. Its colorful but not as sharp as that of nexus 5.. And whites are completely dead..
This Tablet Is Far Behind The Air 2 , So If Anyone Is Going To Buy It , Don't Do It , You Will Regret .
Why
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Why
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more apps, stronger, faster, better screen, ios...... and more
this is why
Screen is worse then t800. I hate. limitations for users on ios. Even when jailbreak- it is far less freedom them android...
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This Tablet Is Far Behind The Air 2 , So If Anyone Is Going To Buy It , Don't Do It , You Will Regret .
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How far behind?.. Apple fan much? How can you even compare, iPad Air 2 has a LCD screen and is 1536 x 2048 pixels (~264 ppi pixel density) and the Tab S is a OLED screen with 1600 x 2560 pixels @ 359 ppi. So if you say the iPad screen is better, its not on Pixel Density, I for one prefer the OLED, blacks are incredible as they arn't lit up. You get a micro SD card slot so you can expand your space which is better for a tablet as you can add lots more videos and games and music to it.
If you like iOS so much, buy an apple watch, an iMac, an Apple TV and an airport time capsule and put it all in a white room and eat apples all day and post in an iForum
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Screen is worse then t800. I hate. limitations for users on ios. Even when jailbreak- it is far less freedom them android...
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the screen is an eye burner on the tab s
and who needs freedom of android if you get malware and data stolen and bad stuff
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How far behind?.. Apple fan much? How can you even compare, iPad Air 2 has a LCD screen and is 1536 x 2048 pixels (~264 ppi pixel density) and the Tab S is a OLED screen with 1600 x 2560 pixels @ 359 ppi. So if you say the iPad screen is better, its not on Pixel Density, I for one prefer the OLED, blacks are incredible as they arn't lit up. You get a micro SD card slot so you can expand your space which is better for a tablet as you can add lots more videos and games and music to it.
If you like iOS so much, buy an apple watch, an iMac, an Apple TV and an airport time capsule and put it all in a white room and eat apples all day and post in an iForum
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you need space ?
get a 64/128 gb version
i have 64 and it is a lot of space
kendoggt3 said:
How far behind?.. Apple fan much? How can you even compare, iPad Air 2 has a LCD screen and is 1536 x 2048 pixels (~264 ppi pixel density) and the Tab S is a OLED screen with 1600 x 2560 pixels @ 359 ppi. So if you say the iPad screen is better, its not on Pixel Density, I for one prefer the OLED, blacks are incredible as they arn't lit up. You get a micro SD card slot so you can expand your space which is better for a tablet as you can add lots more videos and games and music to it.
If you like iOS so much, buy an apple watch, an iMac, an Apple TV and an airport time capsule and put it all in a white room and eat apples all day and post in an iForum
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and i am not fanboy, i get what i find best for me, i wanted to alert people to not fall on samsungs crap
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more apps, stronger, faster, better screen, ios...... and more
this is why
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The other guy found it opposite.So you still think you are in right forum ??? Go there to brace your eyepad !!
Not allowed! This thread will be deleted.
fulltank said:
The other guy found it opposite.So you still think you are in right forum ??? Go there to brace your eyepad !!
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i am helping people to not fall on this crap
fandroid
and i don't need an old forum, This iPad has no problems
Ipad 4:3 lcd screen, Tab S 16:10 oled enough said.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Ipad 4:3 lcd screen, Tab S 16:10 oled enough said.
John.
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tab s2 is 4:3 who is going to the other now ?
and lets forget screen, what is your tablet better then mine at?
i know it, nothing :laugh:
S2 4:3, Yeah Samsung made a big mistake, but it still has an oled screen.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
S2 4:3, Yeah Samsung made a big mistake, but it still has an oled screen.
John.
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oled means:
- eye burning
- Motion Blur
- Bad Battery Life
LCD = clouding, light bleeding, uneven brightness, dull colours, harder to read screen in sunlight.
John.
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oled means:
- eye burning
- Motion Blur
- Bad Battery Life
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
LCD = clouding, light bleeding, uneven brightness, dull colours, harder to read screen in sunlight.
John.
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it looks amazing on ios 9 wallpaper
and better then oled on my view
Tinderbox (UK) said:
LCD = clouding, light bleeding, uneven brightness, dull colours, harder to read screen in sunlight.
John.
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the brightness is high, colors are amazing, and ipad air 2 has reflective (forgot the word) which makes screen better
I really don't get why you are wasting our time in the first place...
stopa10 said:
I really don't get why you are wasting our time in the first place...
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]I really don't get why you are wasting my time in the first place.., i am here to help people so they don't fall on what i fell for
I am keen to buy the OP5 but the pentile Amoled is holding me back ! Have heard a few reviews of the lacking display, especially with only FHD resolution.
Any thoughts or feedback, and any feedback from OP3 users would be appreciated.
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I don't see the need for QHD or WQHD on a 5-6 inch screen. 1080 is more than enough for me. Especially if it provides better battery life and keeps the cost down.
pharpe said:
I don't see the need for QHD or WQHD on a 5-6 inch screen. 1080 is more than enough for me. Especially if it provides better battery life and keeps the cost down.
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That's true but I would keep FHD to mid-range phone and QHD on top-end phones. Yes I agree 1080p is definitely more than enough for a normal user but not a power user such as myself as 2K makes a HUGE different in Virtual Reality which is becoming big. Nothing stops OnePlus from implementing the same feature as the S8 where it switches between 1080p and 2K when it needs it! (not sure if that's true just something I heard) or for an another example there's the Sony flagship with the 4K screen it only enables 4K when it needs it as that will eat the battery and resources. So I don't see no reason why they shouldn't implement a 2K screen (apart from them keeping costs down)
Since V/R-A/R will be with us on smartphones for at least 1 more iteration, How will this resolution look in V/R?
pharpe said:
I don't see the need for QHD or WQHD on a 5-6 inch screen. 1080 is more than enough for me. Especially if it provides better battery life and keeps the cost down.
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It's not the resolution which is a challenge, rather it's the pentile arrangement of the Amoled screen... That's what I am looking to get more info about.
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Agree totally. Loved the OP3 apart from the screen which was really poor compared to rivals. You could get used to it for sure but side by side with others it was really apparent how poor it was (effective resolution due to pentile and the colours)
Pentile on 1080 is totally NOT ok. It is clearly visible.
Pentile on 2k would give a full 1080 resolution.
But... My LG G2 is from 2013 and has a full 1080(lcd) display. If I buy a phone 4 years later, i'd expect it to be a full 2k resolution.
The 1080 pentile on the OP3 is horrible. I'm praying the OP5 has a QHD display or I won't buy it.
I own a OP3 and the screen is perfectly fine for me and my friends.
To be nitpicking just blacks are a bit washed out, but not badly at all.
Giocarro said:
I own a OP3 and the screen is perfectly fine for me and my friends.
To be nitpicking just blacks are a bit washed out, but not badly at all.
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Coming from a S7edge, that's sounds like bad news for me [emoji22]
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I would also love to see a 1440p display.
Well, while people gripe about why their microscopic screens don't have the resolution required for a 60 inch tv to have I guess less of us are going to enjoy the best smartphone of 2017. People are really pushing for the uselessness of QHD for experimental technology such as VR? Even if you get the QHD you want, are you really going to have that headset plugged in all the time to justify having QHD? Then again i guess those 160x160 photos people post on facebook look great in 2560x1440. My tablet has a QHD screen and i dont notice the difference. QHD is just useless on anything smaller than a 32 inch display. Stop jacking up the price for the 5% of people who would even benefit from QHD. Im sure VR looks fine in 1080, or does it look bad because some famous tech reviewer said it looks bad?
OcazPrime said:
Well, while people gripe about why their microscopic screens don't have the resolution required for a 60 inch tv to have I guess less of us are going to enjoy the best smartphone of 2017. People are really pushing for the uselessness of QHD for experimental technology such as VR? Even if you get the QHD you want, are you really going to have that headset plugged in all the time to justify having QHD? Then again i guess those 160x160 photos people post on facebook look great in 2560x1440. My tablet has a QHD screen and i dont notice the difference. QHD is just useless on anything smaller than a 32 inch display. Stop jacking up the price for the 5% of people who would even benefit from QHD. Im sure VR looks fine in 1080, or does it look bad because some famous tech reviewer said it looks bad?
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Nonsense.
B3501 said:
Nonsense.
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Nice rebuttal m8
OcazPrime said:
Nice rebuttal m8
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Do people not know how pentile displays work? Your getting an effective resolution of around 800-900 with the 1080 OP3. It's not enough and you can see it on the 3T. The OPO is even sharper because it doesn't use a pentile display. If the OP5 has another 1080 pentile display its a major draw back.
B3501 said:
Do people not know how pentile displays work? Your getting an effective resolution of around 800-900 with the 1080 OP3. It's not enough and you can see it on the 3T. The OPO is even sharper because it doesn't use a pentile display. If the OP5 has another 1080 pentile display its a major draw back.
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I know how they work. It's a phone dude. Who cares about huge resolutions on this small display. It's not a major draw back, it saves power and money for both us and OnePlus. Get a computer if you need better viewing conditions. I've never had an issue watching youtube in HD or twitch in HD on my 3T. It always looks incredibly sharp and clear with nice colors. Then again I appear to be not even 1% as picky as you seem to be
I personally don't need the extreme HD screen because most of what people do on phones is check email, text, take pictures, social media, web browsing and maybe a game for a bit or watch youtube for a little bit. Not everyone is watching 4K videos on their phones or using VR or whatever else you'd even need a QHD screen for....
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I know how they work. It's a phone dude. Who cares about huge resolutions on this small display. It's not a major draw back, it saves power and money for both us and OnePlus. Get a computer if you need better viewing conditions. I've never had an issue watching youtube in HD or twitch in HD on my 3T. It always looks incredibly sharp and clear with nice colors. Then again I appear to be not even 1% as picky as you seem to be
I personally don't need the extreme HD screen because most of what people do on phones is check email, text, take pictures, social media, web browsing and maybe a game for a bit or watch youtube for a little bit. Not everyone is watching 4K videos on their phones or using VR or whatever else you'd even need a QHD screen for....
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It looks ugly, the screen is a downgrade from my old 6P. Its the biggest part of the phone, the thing you look at and interact with. If OP are bumping up the price to $550 then with a 1080 screen they can forget it.
B3501 said:
It looks ugly, the screen is a downgrade from my old 6P. Its the biggest part of the phone, the thing you look at and interact with. If OP are bumping up the price to $550 then with a 1080 screen they can forget it.
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+1.
B3501 said:
It looks ugly, the screen is a downgrade from my old 6P. Its the biggest part of the phone, the thing you look at and interact with. If OP are bumping up the price to $550 then with a 1080 screen they can forget it.
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the thing is, no one here seems to be taking these leaks with a grain of salt whatsoever. They think they know all the specs already. If they turn out to be correct then great. But, the reveal is 6 days away from now. Can't we just wait for the reveal until we're up in arms about a small piece of glass with glowing lights? I'm all for whatever lets me have more battery and a good experience overall. But we know nothing official about the internals of the phone at the moment. I'm going to say wait and relax until the thing is out or we know the official specs straight from oneplus themselves.
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the thing is, no one here seems to be taking these leaks with a grain of salt whatsoever. They think they know all the specs already. If they turn out to be correct then great. But, the reveal is 6 days away from now. Can't we just wait for the reveal until we're up in arms about a small piece of glass with glowing lights? I'm all for whatever lets me have more battery and a good experience overall. But we know nothing official about the internals of the phone at the moment. I'm going to say wait and relax until the thing is out or we know the official specs straight from oneplus themselves.
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If it is pentile, I'd have to see it in person to tell if it would bother me or not. I had a galaxy nexus which had a 720p pentile, and that was a little bit bothersome, and the nexus 6 with 1440p pentile, which I couldn't notice if I tried. I don't think I've ever seen a 1080p pentile in person, but it's gotta be better than 720p pentile!