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[Q] Would the T-Mobile HTC One work on Wind Mobile in Canada?

If I scavenge around this site and Google hard enough, I can find this question asked a few times, but none have definitive answers. This is a phone that I'm extremely interested in purchasing, as the Sony XPeria Z and Samsung Galaxy S 4 don't have an appeal remotely close to that of the HTC One's. Wind Mobile is a hard carrier to find phones for it seems, but I'd really love to use this phone on my network. Since the international and LTE variant lack the AWS 3G band to support Wind, would the T-Mobile version be compatible? On T-Mobile's website, it states that the UMTS Band IV is 1700/2100, which should be compatible with Wind's 3G network. I would just like to confirm this is true? Normally, I don't like to start new threads to a simple natured question like this, but I'm pretty much desperate to confirm whether or not I can use this phone. That way I'll know whether or not to get excited, or just stick with my S3. Thanks, it's much appreciated.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-One-Glacial-Silver

Amartier said:
... Since the international and LTE variant lack the AWS 3G band to support Wind, would the T-Mobile version be compatible?...
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Yes.
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wuZheng said:
Yes.
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Is this tested? Do you own or know someone that actually tested this?

inyallan said:
Is this tested? Do you own or know someone that actually tested this?
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Can anyone confirm this?

Was on wind in the past, yea it's hard to find devices for this carrier because it's strictly on AWS for its data and services.
The HTC One might work...but if I recall correctly you need 1700/1900/2100 frequencies for HSPA+ or something.
If it's anything like the original Galaxy Note, you may have to flash a radio or something to make it compatible with wind IF this phone is pentaband. If it isn't, f forget it because no amount of radio flashing will work if it the hardware doesn't support it.
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Yes it will work I'm using it with wind mobile and mines the T-Mobile version
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htc fan89 said:
Yes it will work I'm using it with wind mobile and mines the T-Mobile version
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proof? take a pic of your one connected to wind signal
i didnt know it has 1700/2100 for hspa+

DonDizzurp said:
proof? take a pic of your one connected to wind signal
i didnt know it has 1700/2100 for hspa+
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I'm out of country right now, so once I'm back I will post it. By the way t-mobile uses the same bands as wind mobile, apart from having lte also. Other than that there's no differences...T-mobile one has 1700/2100/850/1900

htc fan89 said:
I'm out of country right now, so once I'm back I will post it. By the way t-mobile uses the same bands as wind mobile, apart from having lte also. Other than that there's no differences...T-mobile one has 1700/2100/850/1900
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t-mobile uses something like 1900 LTE since i think last year.. i didnt know they still use AWS/2100

Sorry if that wasn't clear, but the picture is actually linked to dropbox, if you follow it, you'll see that its a screenshot of my TMo HTC One working with the "WIND Home" carrier ID clearly visible.

Anyone know the Stock ROM/or RUU for WIND Mobile??

My S4 Active. Look closely.

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Looking closely .. only thing I'm seeing is that you're on TMO with 4G and 4G/LTE .. is that what you're trying to point out ?

LordGeek said:
Looking closely .. only thing I'm seeing is that you're on TMO with 4G and 4G/LTE .. is that what you're trying to point out ?
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Yes
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537

I read that you can unlock frequencies on factory unlocked phones? It seems to be okay but I would like to double check
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At first I thought it was that weird creature in a space suit. Did you get AT&T to give you the code?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
At first I thought it was that weird creature in a space suit. Did you get AT&T to give you the code?
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Yeah it took a week and they had to call me back, but finally got it

I might be in a re-farmed area, but so far I'm getting 4g, and LTE exactly the same as my tmobile iphone 5. Maybe it's already AWS unlocked? How do I tell?

I do want to confirm that I am getting AWS on my factory unlocked S4 Active with no mods. e, 3g, 4g, and LTE. I know this because on my hacked note 2 without the AWS mod i couldn't get all that.

Is that a slothtronaut? Cosmosloth? I didn't know NASA sent those things up.

burhanistan said:
Is that a slothtronaut? Cosmosloth? I didn't know NASA sent those things up.
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LOL yes Slothstronaut

TwoStroker37 said:
I do want to confirm that I am getting AWS on my factory unlocked S4 Active with no mods. e, 3g, 4g, and LTE. I know this because on my hacked note 2 without the AWS mod i couldn't get all that.
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I am only getting 3G on T-Mobile and I'm in a TMO 4G area that has not been re-farmed. I wonder how you are getting 4G??
Edit: I am not able to use the AT&T S4 guide to unlock frequencies as my device reboots when trying to enter the setup menu provided in the instructions.

kevroc said:
I am only getting 3G on T-Mobile and I'm in a TMO 4G area that has not been re-farmed. I wonder how you are getting 4G??
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I'm getting AWS. No idea how. I was told the ATT sim unlock code opens it up like how you hack the NVRAM tag on the N2/S4
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

TwoStroker37 said:
I'm getting AWS. No idea how. I was told the ATT sim unlock code opens it up like how you hack the NVRAM tag on the N2/S4
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Yes, I got the unlock code from them yesterday and the first thing I did was to pop my TMO sim in. Only 3G for me. So then I check my apn settings and configure it for fast.tmo but that doesn't even connect up, had to us EPC.tmo for the 3g to connect.
Did you have to mess with your APN settings?

It took about 3 minutes after putting the SIM in for it to auto configure. Then rebooted and data came online all bands. APN is epc.
Maybe you need a different SIM?
Sent from my S4 Active

TwoStroker37 said:
It took about 3 minutes after putting the SIM in for it to auto configure. Then rebooted and data came online all bands. APN is epc.
Maybe you need a different SIM?
Sent from my S4 Active
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I'd have to second the notion that you might need a new SIM.

I've been taking screen shots. I've had every data possible. e, 3g, h+, 4g, and LTE. The ATT unlock code definately unlocks the AWS flag in the NVRAM.

TwoStroker37 said:
I've been taking screen shots. I've had every data possible. e, 3g, h+, 4g, and LTE. The ATT unlock code definately unlocks the AWS flag in the NVRAM.
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Checking in too. I used an unlocked on eBay for my AT&T Active. Threw in my T-Mobile SIM, settings automatically updated and I as good to go. 4G/LTE. I am in a refarmed area (PDX).

TwoStroker37 said:
Yeah it took a week and they had to call me back, but finally got it
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When I got the code from AT&T it took less than 10mins and I don't even have AT&T. But now they got a new rule about giving unlock codes I had to call twice because the first person wouldn't give me the code but the second did.
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Hands down, best wallpaper I've ever seen. I looked closely, as instructed, but couldn't look at anything else but that grinning sloth in astronaut gear.

CPA Poke said:
Hands down, best wallpaper I've ever seen. I looked closely, as instructed, but couldn't look at anything else but that grinning sloth in astronaut gear.
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S4 Active on T mobile with 4G and LTE (aws). It actually gets better signal at my house than my Tmobile Iphone 5 (edge) and my S4A will get H+.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8wr5yJBCv1qkwvzpo1_1280.jpg

Looking for app that shows me Band/Pairing #

I know Samsung devices have this and I believe iphones.. not sure.. I dont use iphones...
Unfortuneately, our devices doesnt show this or at least I can not get into this mode... Is there an app that can show us this...
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I have yet to find one.

Lte discovery might be what your lookin for it will show you band not sure about pairing though but still worth looking in to
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Dont know what you search, but you can get into service menu. Go tot dailer en call *#*#4636#*#*

mindblizzard said:
Dont know what you search, but you can get into service menu. Go tot dailer en call *#*#4636#*#*
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Im pretty sure our phones dont show this info.. Ive been in there many times..
Can you show me a screen shot of yours with this info?

Sure, I dont have 4g network overhere

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kei5rio.secretcode&hl=en

I must be blind.. but where does it show the Band and pairing BW?

If you refer to my post, my point was only that there's a little app that shows the Android service menu. The band is indicated (mine says HSPA - my contract doesn't allow LTE, so I can't say anything about that).

fmc000 said:
If you refer to my post, my point was only that there's a little app that shows the Android service menu. The band is indicated (mine says HSPA - my contract doesn't allow LTE, so I can't say anything about that).
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that app your referring to is the same menu as going into *#*#4636#*#*
also, HSPA, LTE, GSM, etc is not the band type, its a network type.. by Band type I mean LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40, which is also another way to describe radio frequency
as you can see in the first pic of my first post, in the Samsung device, it shows Band 4
but my question was for mindblizzard,

I don't think the phone can show that information
Sent from my OnePlusOne

which is why Iam asking around to see if theres an app that can...

gd6noob said:
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?

ImWarped said:
Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?
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I would assume to see if the band unlock mod works for other frequencies?
I will see if band 20 is unlocked in few weeks once i get my 4g/LTE data package.

tofuboi01 said:
I would assume to see if the band unlock mod works for other frequencies?
I will see if band 20 is unlocked in few weeks once i get my 4g/LTE data package.
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That's all fine and dandy, but it's not like your carrier is operating multiple frequencies that you're likely to see ever. Maybe if you live in an incredibly dense population center, but even then... Perhaps I'm missing something.

ImWarped said:
Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?
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Im just curious to see what Band/DL Bandwidth my carrier is using... Our area is suppose to be upgraded to a new LTE network using a new band and what not...

gd6noob said:
Im just curious to see what Band/DL Bandwidth my carrier is using... Our area is suppose to be upgraded to a new LTE network using a new band and what not...
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Fair enough, if you have LTE already, and they are simply deploying a new frequency, you likely won't notice any change, to any of the service. Speeds don't increase between bands, the only reason a carrier deploys a new band, is to fight radio interference from other carriers. Given the cost of a single radio, carriers generally only deploy these new radios in VERY congested areas. Meaning, that in a city that has, say 15 towers, 2-3 of them would actually get the upgrade, in the area that suffers from the most interference. (You have to bear in mind, that a full tower build, requires 6 radios, each radio costing about $18,000 for the radio, another $1000 for the antenna, another $500-1500 for the power supply and cabling. They don't just "upgrade" an entire area, it takes too long to recoup costs)

ImWarped said:
That's all fine and dandy, but it's not like your carrier is operating multiple frequencies that you're likely to see ever. Maybe if you live in an incredibly dense population center, but even then... Perhaps I'm missing something.
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Ah my mistake, i had in my head he meant to check for bands in the area which he can use with the 'unlocked' frequency mod..for some reason. My total mistake!
However what i meant with what i said when i get my 4g is that i can confirm that the unlock mod will enable band 20 since our OPO is restricted/doesnt support it by default. The band app would be good though!

Exynos variant

Can anyone confirm the compatibility of the Exynos variant with T-mobile? Frequency check websites show 100% compatibility but looking for personal experience feedback. Also curious if B66 works as intended in the US.

TehPirate_ said:
Can anyone confirm the compatibility of the Exynos variant with T-mobile? Frequency check websites show 100% compatibility but looking for personal experience feedback. Also curious if B66 works as intended in the US.
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Its good. I use the S7 Exynos on T-Mobile. Its perfectly fine but with no wifi calling and a bit worse service.

mweinbach said:
Its good. I use the S7 Exynos on T-Mobile. Its perfectly fine but with no wifi calling and a bit worse service.
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Service is already hit or miss where I live now. Can you elaborate on how the service is worse? Band support or signal strength?

TehPirate_ said:
Service is already hit or miss where I live now. Can you elaborate on how the service is worse? Band support or signal strength?
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I just noticed that the service is like just a little worse, you most likely wont notice a difference.

Anyone play around with the idea of loading the T-mobile S8 firmware onto the Exynos international version of the phone to see if that would be enough to get Wifi calling working? Wifi calling is essential to me since I work in a building with great wifi but no service.

JGoldz75 said:
Anyone play around with the idea of loading the T-mobile S8 firmware onto the Exynos international version of the phone to see if that would be enough to get Wifi calling working? Wifi calling is essential to me since I work in a building with great wifi but no service.
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You cannot install Snapdragon firmware on an Exynos based phone. This will lead to a brick. The only thing from a Snapdragon firmware you can install I believe is CSC but don't quote me on that.

TehPirate_ said:
You cannot install Snapdragon firmware on an Exynos based phone. This will lead to a brick. The only thing from a Snapdragon firmware you can install I believe is CSC but don't quote me on that.
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I was also wondering if flashing the tmobile CSC to the 955F would enable wifi calling. The only LTE band that the Exynos variant doesn't have that T-mobile uses is 66 and from what I've been able to research that's not sued int he NYC area. But wifi calling is critical. I use it a lot to call back home when I travel abroad.

EastVillage said:
I was also wondering if flashing the tmobile CSC to the 955F would enable wifi calling. The only LTE band that the Exynos variant doesn't have that T-mobile uses is 66 and from what I've been able to research that's not sued int he NYC area. But wifi calling is critical. I use it a lot to call back home when I travel abroad.
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That is incorrect. The 950F does support band 66. I took this from service mode on my 950F
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I can't imagine 955F would be different from 950F
I received my phone yesterday. After a couple sites reporting it did support band 66, I dove in and was not disappointed.

TehPirate_ said:
That is incorrect. The 950F does support band 66. I took this from service mode on my 950F
I can't imagine 955F would be different from 950F
I received my phone yesterday. After a couple sites reporting it did support band 66, I dove in and was not disappointed.
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Thanks but there's something weird about your screenshot. Band 32 is out of order and is not used on any Samsung phone. I think that should be 42. I find it hard to believe that there is a typo in the service menu.
I was using frequencycheck.com and willmydevicework.com as my sources. I agree that on this point I'm positive that the 950 and 955 should be the same.

EastVillage said:
Thanks but there's something weird about your screenshot. Band 32 is out of order and is not used on any Samsung phone. I think that should be 42. I find it hard to believe that there is a typo in the service menu.
I was using frequencycheck.com and willmydevicework.com as my sources. I agree that on this point I'm positive that the 950 and 955 should be the same.
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Yeah it's strange and I do think it's a typo. But that's what service mode shows, regardless of which SIM I select.

With the exynos you'll also lose VoLTE. Meaning in areas where T-Mobile is using B12 LTE to extend the range of its network (B12 LTE 700mhz goes further than their EDGE and HSPA network (1700,1900,2100mhz) so if you're in an area and only have B12 LTE signal you won't be able to make or receive calls or texts. And in an emergency scenario if there was no other network for your phone to roam to, you also wouldn't be able to dial 911. Kinda an important feature imo.

I use the 930F on t-mobile and will likely do the same with the s8. If you care about rooting, you should get a 950f. It can be rooted easily and with root, you can get TKKG1994's CSC selection tool and use it to enable VOLTE/Wifi calling). If you aren't going to root, then the carrier phone is good.
I don't know how gigabit LTE is affected but I doubt in 2017 this is a game changer.

T MOBILE Speed is low on FD models?

I remember when I had the note 8 N Version you had to change csc but don't think csc change does anything lol
Am I the only one?

TheUndertaker21 said:
I remember when I had the note 8 N Version you had to change csc but don't think csc change does anything lol
Am I the only one?
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Try this.
http://tekhd.com/detonator/#tmodetonator

Xshooter726 said:
Try this.
http://tekhd.com/detonator/#tmodetonator
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I'm on it now.
Doesn't seem. To make any different besides voice lte

TheUndertaker21 said:
I'm on it now.
Doesn't seem. To make any different besides voice lte
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i'm using the 960F/DS, with an ATT CSC and i get HD Voice with both ATT and T-Mobile calls (i see the HD symbol on the Google Dialer/Phone). i've been very happy with my T-Mobile LTE cellular internet speeds in my low-signal coverage neighborhood. will test again and post results from current biz trip where T-Mobile has excellent coverage on internet speeds.

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i'm using the 960F/DS, with an ATT CSC and i get HD Voice with both ATT and T-Mobile calls (i see the HD symbol on the Google Dialer/Phone). i've been very happy with my T-Mobile LTE cellular internet speeds in my low-signal coverage neighborhood. will test again and post results from current biz trip where T-Mobile has excellent coverage on internet speeds.
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That's amazing.
Which one did you flash?

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That's amazing.
Which one did you flash?
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i didn't use the flash method; couldn't find a flashable file with an ATT CSC for the Note9. so...i extracted and copied-pasted the ATT CSC folder/files from ATT's most recent full ROM and manually edited the necessary dat files in the omc and /efs/imei folders on my phone. that being said, neither ATT nor T-Mobile WiFi calling and video calling work, but that's not an issue for me. i use the Google Dialer and Duo for video calls.

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i didn't use the flash method; couldn't find a flashable file with an ATT CSC for the Note9. so...i extracted and copied-pasted the ATT CSC folder/files from ATT's most recent full ROM and manually edited the necessary dat files in the omc and /efs/imei folders on my phone. that being said, neither ATT nor T-Mobile WiFi calling and video calling work, but that's not an issue for me. i use the Google Dialer and Duo for video calls.
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Clever.
I have both working but I need speed more than voice lte since I barely talk on the phone
And use what'sapp

T-Mo cellular internet speeds in DC... Remember this is with an AT&T CSC configuration on my dual SIM note 9, with TMobile SIM selected for calls, text and data.
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I use simplemobile, which is an mnvo of t-mobile and this is what im getting in LA with the T-mobile tekhd zip.

With Tmobile I had to delete the 12 band and then restart the phone

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With Tmobile I had to delete the 12 band and then restart the phone
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What MCCI code did you use to access the services menu on your Note 9?
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d.cortez said:
What MCCI code did you use to access the services menu on your Note 9?
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Here is the link that shows how to do it https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...how-to-selecting-deselecting-network-t3597777

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Here is the link that shows how to do it https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...how-to-selecting-deselecting-network-t3597777
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thanks for the link; i figured out the codes shortly after posting my message.

Rather than turning off band that provider might actually use in some situations, try turning off band that you possibly won't use, like band 39, or whatever.
See if that fixes preference to band 4, while still maintaining band 12 for odd situation.
I'm only saying this, because in Canada for provider freedom, band 66 is the fastest, and international phones actually prefer to connect to band 4 which is the slowest for this particular provider. Since we don't have access to modem settings since oreo, I found that disabling any of the unused bands (30,46,39 whatever), brings back proper behaviour like Canadian model counterparts, choosing band 66 majority of times, while still maintaining band 4 for building penetration.
Just try, give a few minutes, check on *#0011#, see if you're still defaulting to 12, or something else with more throughput, might work, might not.
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