Mine gets hot often and sometimes I put it in the freezer for a minute and temp drops back down.
Just now, my phone got really hot, just from charging, so I put it in the freezer for about 30 seconds and it dropped 9 degrees and cooled down.
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Really?
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Wow. Putting it in the freezer will obviously cool it down, but will probably damage it eventually. The real question is why does your phone heat up so much? My S4 used to heat up much more than this and I never had to put it in the freezer :-/
There's of course a difference between heating and overheating -- I assume the phone will shut down to prevent damage in the latter case. My erstwhile iPhone 5 did that sometimes when it was in my car mount and exposed to sun.
TL;DR: You shouldn't have to put the phone in the freezer. Ever.
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thevuman said:
Mine gets hot often and sometimes I put it in the freezer for a minute and temp drops back down.
Just now, my phone got really hot, just from charging, so I put it in the freezer for about 30 seconds and it dropped 9 degrees and cooled down.
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How hot is "really hot"? The casing acts as a heat sink, so it's quite normal to get hot. I believe the HTC max safe temperature is 55 degrees Celsius.
And personally, I wouldn't put it in a freezer to cool down, going from hot to cold in such a fast time isn't really good on the hardware.
Do you put your laptop or PC in the freezer too? they get much hotter than phones
I rarely got mine hot TBH - mostly when playing Dungeon Hunter 4 for 30+ minutes
But put in the freezer? Nope.
Wont a hot phone quickly cooled cause condensation problems, and eventually water damage.
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Wont a hot phone quickly cooled cause condensation problems, and eventually water damage.
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LOL this is funny. reminds me of the old days when we would put NES games in the freezer to make them last longer when playing.
I put my phone in the freezer, wrapped in plastic while running antutu, and got the lowest temps and highest scores I have ever seen..
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Too funny... :laugh: I would recommend against putting your phone or any electronic device in the freezer because the sudden temperature shock will definitely stress the various components causing the life of the phone to decrease. Just let the phone cool down at room temperature.
The quick temperature change could crack the glass so I would stop.
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LOL I do the same with food that's too hott. Wouldn't say I'd do it with my phone though. Just leave it alone for 10-15 minutes and it should cool back down fine.
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I put my phone in the freezer, wrapped in plastic while running antutu, and got the lowest temps and highest scores I have ever seen..
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Congratulations, you proved nothing.
Necromancy: begin!!!
IINexusII said:
Congratulations, you proved nothing.
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:silly:
Digging up an old post I ran across. Browsing the web for random input...
This guy who "proved nothing" shed a little insight into answering the OP's question.
The answer: Know what you're getting into. If you have to ask, then highly consider not doing it. If you feel confident, try it at your own risk. That said, experiementing with devices growing up, I've put a lot of stuff "on ice" (not directly of course), but again, know your hardware down to the very solder that connects it, then you'll be less likely to fug up your project. :fingers-crossed:
(plastic bag + water resistant phone... overkill, but hey, I've seen these things frozen with liquid nitrogen and come back to boot) :victory::highfive:
I've put my M7 in the freezer many times. I just throw it directly in the ice tray for about 5 minutes. The first time I got worried because it was on, and when I took it out it had frost all over it but it still works.
Hey everyone. I'm new to the Nexus 5 community, got my phone a week ago and so far it feels like ive had it for ever. Great device and so worth my limited money.
Anyways. I have been doing these methods on all my phones and so far i haven't seen anyone else trying this.
1. Speed cool your phone
If you have a heat sink from an old pc laying around (unless its one of those huge gaming computer heat sinks) it can now have a purpose again. If your phone gets hot, simply put the heatsink copper side up and put your phone on it. about 2 minutes later your phone should be as cool as it can get without using a freezer.
2. Keep phone cool while wireless charging.
I got a wireless charger recently, and sometimes the phone doesn't get hot at all, and other times it gets VERY hot (about 115 degrees F). So instead of finding the 'perfect' position for my phone to stay cool, i found that using simple cup stands or what ever they are called, helps.
You know those things at restaurants that you put your cup on? those things. For best effect, use 2 or 3 of these, put them under your phone while your phone is on the wireless charger. I think it helps because the cardboard isn't very dense and absorbs and quickly lets off most of the heat and my phone never got over 101 degrees F yet.
3. The first method can also be used while charging your phone though a wire.
Sometimes i want to watch a movie or something while charging my phone on a wire, i simply put it ontop of the heatsink and watch the movie. Might be a bit uncomfortable, so try to found a way for it to be comfortable.
Hope this helps anyone, im still working on a way to make a home made (thin) heat sink for wireless charging.
heat sink testing
So far ive built the heatsink, its about 6 - 7 mm thick using those cardboard cup stand things mentioned above, coper wire, and silicone, and some superglue. i thought tape (specifically the adhesive) would melt under heat.
So far, i have charged my phone all the way up from 20%, temeprature hit 118 degrees F (note this is wireless charging).
Currently testing the heat sink. Charging it up from 85 %. So far at 92% and max temperature is 97F but has gone down to 96F. The heat sink is pretty warm compared to the phone (the phone is actually quite cool).
If you would like to mess around with the design this is how i built it.
Took one cardboard cup plate and put a copper coil on it. I just took about 10 inches of copper wire (thin kind) and made it into a wide coil (ill post pictures later), and then hammered it to be more or less flat. Put small amounts of superglue to hold it in place. Took the second cardboard plate, and put it on top. Used silicone to seal the edge to hold. Also add some super glue to the top of the coil to glue it to the top cardboard piece.
Simply put the heatsink under the phone while wireless charging.
Pictures of heatsink
Here are the pictures.
Ill post screenshots later of the test.
I do the same thing for wireless charging. Instead of making one, I bought a set of ceramic/porcelain/granite (I don't really know) coasters. I used one coaster for wireless charging, and four more under my laptop for when it is on the counter or table (keeps it cool and above any drinks that may spill).
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I do the same thing for wireless charging. Instead of making one, I bought a set of ceramic/porcelain/granite (I don't really know) coasters. I used one coaster for wireless charging, and four more under my laptop for when it is on the counter or table (keeps it cool and above any drinks that may spill).
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link to the materials? Sounds like good idea.
I have this huge granite/porcelain slab my mom uses to beak bread. i wish it wasn't a 2 foot x 2 foot size, maybe i could have used that instead.
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so far the temperatures would go up to about 99F and then go back down to around 96...i think what happens is the phone heats up, then the heatsink takes the heat, and cools down while the phone heats up again...cycle
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link to the materials? Sounds like good idea.
I have this huge granite/porcelain slab my mom uses to beak bread. i wish it wasn't a 2 foot x 2 foot size, maybe i could have used that instead.
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so far the temperatures would go up to about 99F and then go back down to around 96...i think what happens is the phone heats up, then the heatsink takes the heat, and cools down while the phone heats up again...cycle
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As I mentioned, I am not exactly sure what the material is. My guess is ceramic. I had the idea when I saw them in a store.
You can find them just about anywhere, and decorated any way you like (mine are plain). Link to Amazon
The granite slab you mentioned should work just fine. I never precisely monitored the temperature, but I know its a lot cooler.
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As I mentioned, I am not exactly sure what the material is. My guess is ceramic. I had the idea when I saw them in a store.
You can find them just about anywhere, and decorated any way you like (mine are plain). Link to Amazon
The granite slab you mentioned should work just fine. I never precisely monitored the temperature, but I know its a lot cooler.
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Haha like I said that slab is huge for an oven made to bake on. So if I had something to cut me a slice I would.
I was just sitting at my PC and I saw the little cardboard things and though why not try it. I tried with two and it seemed to work okay-ish so like I used my copper heat sink I thought of putting copper in between. Took me 5 minutes to make.
But I'll definitely give the porcelain a try.
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I don't recommend putting anything between the phone and the wireless charger, increased distance means less power into the phone and more wasted into the air. Also I don't think the plastic case of the phone will interface well with a metal heatsink but I admire your tenacity.
Maybe log your temps with and without and compare, though you would have to adjust values for ambient room temps otherwise a warmer day could throw off all your results.
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I don't recommend putting anything between the phone and the wireless charger, increased distance means less power into the phone and more wasted into the air. Also I don't think the plastic case of the phone will interface well with a metal heatsink but I admire your tenacity.
Maybe log your temps with and without and compare, though you would have to adjust values for ambient room temps otherwise a warmer day could throw off all your results.
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Yeah I noticed it takes a bit longer to charge but wireless charging is never actually fast as cord charging. I get about 1% ever minute with screen off and 1% every 2 minutes with screen on.
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Also I think its worth a try, maybe someone can come up with something more effective.
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just out of curiosity, completely. whats the point of this? heat is normal, especially while charging, and does not hurt the device. for the fun of it, i reach cpu temp shutdown purposefully all the time(105C), on all my devices, for years. heat has never ever caused any kind of damage to any of my devices. as the safety temps for battery and cpu shutdown are actually below the temps that our devices can handle before it can cause any damage.
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just out of curiosity, completely. whats the point of this? heat is normal, especially while charging, and does not hurt the device. for the fun of it, i reach cpu temp shutdown purposefully all the time(105C), on all my devices, for years. heat has never ever caused any kind of damage to any of my devices. as the safety temps for battery and cpu shutdown are actually below the temps that our devices can handle before it can cause any damage.
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Well looks like I have the exact opposite experience than you. All the phones I've had eventually had degraded battery's because of over heating. I had phones that would last 4 hours on an old battery and 12 on a new one. And that's just from gaming and such. Now charging is pretty much directly heating a battery. Also some people don't like picking up a piece if lava.
If you think its pointless then don't do it.
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Well looks like I have the exact opposite experience than you. All the phones I've had eventually had degraded battery's because of over heating. I had phones that would last 4 hours on an old battery and 12 on a new one. And that's just from gaming and such. Now charging is pretty much directly heating a battery. Also some people don't like picking up a piece if lava.
If you think its pointless then don't do it.
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Battery degradation occurs on all Li-ion batteries. Heat has very little effect on the overall lifespan of the battery. You can expect about a 30% loss in capacity every year no matter your usage patterns.
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Well looks like I have the exact opposite experience than you. All the phones I've had eventually had degraded battery's because of over heating. I had phones that would last 4 hours on an old battery and 12 on a new one. And that's just from gaming and such. Now charging is pretty much directly heating a battery. Also some people don't like picking up a piece if lava.
If you think its pointless then don't do it.
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im not planning on it. as i said the very first thing, out of curiosity.
now degraded batteries that early can happen, but its mostly because of manufacturing defects. the chances of that happening more than once in a row is fairly low. but you said multiple times. which leads me to believe that theres either something wrong with your phone physically, or maybe you are doing something wrong. as i said, on my g1(s), ion, og droid, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 7, and nexus 7, ive never had any issues because of heat or because of battery. i do all the testing for trinity kernel, while testing i try to "break" the kernel. part of that testing is keeping the temps right under the thermal shutdown temp for long periods of time. i have yet to see any kind of damage because of this(except for me "breaking" any test kernels).
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Battery degradation occurs on all Li-ion batteries. Heat has very little effect on the overall lifespan of the battery. You can expect about a 30% loss in capacity every year no matter your usage patterns.
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True that too. But there is enough research to support that heat does slowly degrade the battery.
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im not planning on it. as i said the very first thing, out of curiosity.
now degraded batteries that early can happen, but its mostly because of manufacturing defects. the chances of that happening more than once in a row is fairly low. but you said multiple times. which leads me to believe that theres either something wrong with your phone physically, or maybe you are doing something wrong. as i said, on my g1(s), ion, og droid, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 7, and nexus 7, ive never had any issues because of heat or because of battery. i do all the testing for trinity kernel, while testing i try to "break" the kernel. part of that testing is keeping the temps right under the thermal shutdown temp for long periods of time. i have yet to see any kind of damage because of this(except for me "breaking" any test kernels).
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Interesting. But I'll stay on the safe side.
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Interesting. But I'll stay on the safe side.
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cool.
as everything is different depending on everyone else's experiences in life.. most important is that you are satisfied by doing it
simms22 said:
cool.
as everything is different depending on everyone else's experiences in life.. most important is that you are satisfied by doing it
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You can say that again ?
Also...I notice that charging the phone bellow 80% (like even if I start charging at 75%) temps get to about 103° with my heat sink. But when it goes over 80% it starts to cool down. Still doing lots of testing and logging though.
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Here is something to read
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You can say that again ?
Also...I notice that charging the phone bellow 80% (like even if I start charging at 75%) temps get to about 103° with my heat sink. But when it goes over 80% it starts to cool down. Still doing lots of testing and logging though.
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Here is something to read
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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yea, it charges "faster" before 80%, then slows down. then slows down again around 92%. oh, and that article is outdated. our batteries are a newer tech than when that article was written(2010).
Using a Wireless charger doesn't generate that much heat lol.
I don't use my device while charging it either.
Does anybody know what's the max temperature the battery can reach before shutdown? Today I left my phone in front of my air vent in the car. The heater was on. After getting off the car I noticed the battery temperature reached 50C. I was surprised the OS didn't decide to shut down the phone at 50C battery temp.
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Does anybody know what's the max temperature the battery can reach before shutdown? Today I left my phone in front of my air vent in the car. The heater was on. After getting off the car I noticed the battery temperature reached 50C. I was surprised the OS didn't decide to shut down the phone at 50C battery temp.
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the phone safety temp is 100C(thats 212F, the boiling point of water). at which point your phone will shut off/reboot to cool off. the battery safety temp is 60C. 50C is way to cool to get shut down, lol. while normally using your phone, itll get much warmer than 50C. btw, your body temp is 37C, which isnt far from 50C.
Thanks for the quick reply!
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I have read that high temps are bad for a battery, and the past few days ive started to use the Standard Moto x4 quickcharger more often.
To compensate the rise in temperature, i just lay the phone on a cold stone floor with the back on the bottom while charging in short bursts of 25%.
I notice the cold floor absorbs the heat, and the battery stays cool that way.
Would charging in this manner be harmful for the battery, or is it a succesful way to minimize battery degradation through quickcharge?
I check the temperature with accubattery app after quickcharging for lets say 25%, and it always tells me around 25°C max (77°Fah)
The floor is probably between 5°C (41°Fah) and 12°C (54°Fah)
I noticed that when I was outside today (pretty cold 3°C) , accubattery showed battery temperature of phone was 12°C;
so the temperature reading in AccuBattery is probably accurate.
This means it's not harmful to quickcharge my phone @ a battery temperature of 25°C or less., by laying the glass back on the floor.
It probably helps to neutralize some of the negative effects quickcharging has on the battery
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I really don't think that quickcharging has any harmful effects; for sure it has been designed taking also thermal conditions into account.
I can't imagine I'd have to look for cold stone floor every time I need to recharge my phone
Is this thread for real?
Lmfao. Life's too short to be worrying this much about a phone battery. Just charge the damn thing.
Jizzylax said:
Is this thread for real?
Lmfao. Life's too short to be worrying this much about a phone battery. Just charge the damn thing.
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Glad you got a laugh out of it.
For you then,
when quickcharging Just don't put your phone on a cold surface, let the battery get hot...
let it go to 0% and then charge overnight to 100%... everyday
and keep it laying in the sun from time to time,
all these things are bad for the battery but apparently they make you enjoy life more.
so enjoy :silly:
Does it has a heating issue.
My black phone always feels a bit hot. But the performance doesn't drop. I think because of the glass back I can fell the heat. Because I checked the cpu temperature it was about 37-40. And my room temperature wat around 35+.
And another thing is that the charging time is a bit slow considering it's 5020mah and 33watt fast charger. It takes around 1 hour from 15% to 80%
This morning I charged from 7% to 100% in just over one hour no problem there.
I have the orange gradient design and only feel it getting warm during charging.
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Does it has a heating issue.
My black phone always feels a bit hot. But the performance doesn't drop. I think because of the glass back I can fell the heat. Because I checked the cpu temperature it was about 37-40. And my room temperature wat around 35+.
And another thing is that the charging time is a bit slow considering it's 5020mah and 33watt fast charger. It takes around 1 hour from 15% to 80%
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A good news my brothers the heating issue i told is gone. After miui 12.0.10 update.