[Q] Bad Battery Performance After Middle Frame Replacement - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I had to replace my xperia z1 c6903 middle frame.
Before the replacement, in my normal usage, the battery time is about 1 - 1.5 days but after the replacement, it down to 10 - 12 hours.
I did not any software updates or changes, and when i check the battery usage, there is no unsual results.
But I noticed that my new middle frame did not contain some parts which exist on old one. This parts seem like a copper, and if I'm not wrong, magnetic charge parts was also missing.
I attached a photo from old middle frame.
Does anyone have an idea what the reason is?
Thanks.

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[Q] Is this graph normal / nothing to worry about?

The Battery Use graph will normally show these little 'peaks' down to ~75%. Normal? Or does it indicate something I need to start worrying about?
CyanogenMod-7.1.0-N1
(Slightly higher res version here http://i.imgur.com/ys3c1.png)
EDIT: Realized I should provide more information regarding the phone. Bought it new off of Amazon UK about two weeks before Christmas. Rooted / Flashed it within 12 hours, and these peaks have always been present since day one.
If your battery life is ok - I believe that these might be just SW miscalculations.
Especially if you always had them, I don't see a reason to worry.
This is normal for rechargeble batteries, since they have a habbit to lie their actual charge level, and the phone just graphs them. You might just get a speare one and test to see if same happens and also good to have extra battery.

[Q] battery impressions

can you guys give your battery impressions of this phone
I've just updated to lollipop shortly after receiving the phone so I didn't have much experience with KK but I did notice this problem before updating.
The battery drains, I don't know if its normal but the battery level doesn't flat line over night, its drains almost 20% over night.
also it came back from being repaired because the screen is bad. its really sensitive or something, when scrolling, it would often open links on its own, like it doesn't register's my touch properly.
problem still persist, its not so bad after removing the screen protector but its still a problem. and I would like to use a screen protector
do you think Motorola would replace my phone or repair it? this really annoying
Why Another Thread
There is already thread for Battery performance and there is one more for Battery in Lollipop. You should continue here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/huge-battery-drain-issue-google-t3008166
As far as battery , in lollipop ,, its all good here

Incorrect battery percentage. Phone dies at when not even close to 0%.

Hello,
Been a while since i was on XDA because i chose a good enough rom and never had to back again. I've used android for quite a while. My first android phone ever was a HTC Tattoo. This is like my 7th android phone now and i've modded every phone i ever had with a custom rom because the stock ones were full of stupid additions that just took up space for no reason. I've encountered many issues along the way and solved most of em. But here is another issue i just cannot fix no matter how hard i try.
I have a regular Xperia Z1 c6903 and i've used it for quite a while. Played Hearthstone alot on it even tho it did make the phone feel like a radiator. After time, the back glass started loosening up bit by bit. I think it has something to do with the glue loosening because of the constant heat of me playing Hearthstone. Didn't worry about it too much, until i started having these weird battery issues. The phone started dying on weird percentages, jumping from 14% to instant 0% and shutdown. I've encountered this issue before on other phones and it just happened to be a software issue where reinstalling the rom or installing another would fix the issue.
I tried this on this phone multiple times. Worked once. Then it came back. Tried even installing the stock firmware again so its in factory settings even tho i didnt relock the bootloader. Issue didnt get fixed. Tried switching to a kitkat stock firmware, didnt work. Tried installing another custom firmware, didnt work. So i reverted back to the rom that i found worked best for me despite the battery issues, DStrikerZ1 Kai.
The issue just got worse. It started dying on 30% and just went higher and higher each time. Then it kept dying on like 64% or so each time. At this point, every time i charged it it just jumped from 1% to like 54% in less than a minute. I charged it each time while it was off. I didnt turn it on to then charge it.
2 days ago, it died on exactly 84%. It's at this point i was looking into options because i cant have a phone that charges only to what it THINKS it 100% and then stops charging to just die then at 84% while discharging per percentage at a normal rate.
Next day, the battery and the back glass i ordered arrived. There was one issue tho which i realized much later, the battery i got was too fat. Mostly on the lower part of it. I was able to plug the battery in but i couldnt put on the back glass entirely because the battery is too fat. So i put it on as much as i could and just taped it around with white tape around the phone but above and below the screen so it doesnt block it. Also cut out what was needed with a scalpel so sound and camera arent blocked. While trying to replace the battery, i think i may have accidentally pulled a little bit on the back camera so it popped out just a tiny bit. Pushed it back in and it looks fine. Although now i can't launch my camera app and it crashes each time. Dont use it much anyway so not a big loss for me.
Here is the result of this new battery:
It works. Although i still have the battery percentage issues. But it charges a bit differently now and discharges differently. NOT CORRECTLY STILL. 1 hour ago i put on charging because it died outside again at a wrong percentage. Was like 60%, dont remember. I turn it on again and while its turning itself on, i plug it into the charger. It says 52%. So i launch Pokemon GO and run it for about a minute. Then it dies again. Then i turn it on again and NOW its on 1% and it starts charging what i THINK is normally. 20 minutes later after charging, i check it and its on 11%. Then the really weird thing happens. As im watching the percentage go up, it goes from 11% to 15% in a matter of seconds as if it went up by 1% per second. It's been 1 hour now and its on 27%. One thing that i think is just a coincidence but i have no idea, it died like 6 times only while Pokemon GO was running.
I seriously don't know what to do. I don't know if the issue isnt with the battery but the phone itself, or if it just needs a bit calibration. But you can't use a phone reliably if you cant know when it needs recharging. I can't buy a new phone for at least 2 more months. I have a Galaxy S2 somewhere that i can use in the meantime but its cracked a bit and the top left part of the glass just above the display is just gone. Taped over it to keep it covered. But it'll get the job done in the meantime.
I know i should have made a book about this. I did write alot. But i feel people will be able the help me if they know exactly every detail.
What does the community of XDA have to say about what i should do or try?
Thank you in advance!
Sounds like you got a damaged or used battery that is bad. It has dead cells in it thus the voltage and percent drop. Besides that original Sony 3000mAh battery will fit perfectly and look exactly like replaced original battery (bar it can have different text/icon layout on white sticker).
EQ2000 said:
Sounds llike you got a damaged or used battery that is bad. It has dead cells in it thus the voltage and percent drop. Besides that original Sony 3000mAh battery will fit perfectly and look exactly like replaced original battery (bar it can have different text/icon layout on white sticker).
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The one i got by mail actually is also the original Sony 3000mAh battery. I did the comparison and it does look exactly the same with only the sticker being a tiny bit different in what exact code it had on it. But this one was thicker on the bottom part of the battery. I'll just order another one then i guess...
finalfantasy said:
The one i got by mail actually is also the original Sony 3000mAh battery. I did the comparison and it does look exactly the same with only the sticker being a tiny bit different in what exact code it had on it. But this one was thicker on the bottom part of the battery. I'll just order another one then i guess...
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But if it is thicker then it is a used one that has swollen cells in it due to dendrite which makes cells go bad and ultimately shortcut the cell(s) resulting in sudden drops in voltage thus the percentage jumps down or goes directly to 0 depeding on severity.
Return the battery and get a new one and make sure it is original. When you get it weight it and compare with the old one. IIRC battery should weight about 42-43 grams. On the sticker you see 2 numbers with a W inbetween. First is year it is produced and second is the week eg 13W32 which means 2013, week 32.
I suggest you order from Teknikdelar.se (since you live in Sweden) which has original Sony batteries and they are new, fresh ones. Avoid anyone selling batteries without "original Sony" inserted into description.
EQ2000 said:
But if it is thicker then it is a used one that has swollen cells in it due to dendrite which makes cells go bad and ultimately shortcut the cell(s) resulting in sudden drops in voltage thus the percentage jumps down or goes directly to 0 depeding on severity.
Return the battery and get a new one and make sure it is original. When you get it weight it and compare with the old one. IIRC battery should weight about 42-43 grams. On the sticker you see 2 numbers with a W inbetween. First is year it is produced and second is the week eg 13W32 which means 2013, week 32.
I suggest you order from Teknikdelar.se (since you live in Sweden) which has original Sony batteries and they are new, fresh ones. Avoid anyone selling batteries without "original Sony" inserted into description.
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This actually now makes a whole lot sense. It is kind of swollen as if its been used up. I will order a new one as soon as i can from the website you linked. Appreciate the help! :victory: :laugh:

New battery not solving shutdown problem

Z1 lollipop 5.1.1
build n. 14.6.A.1.236
kernel ver. 3.4.0-perf-gd26777b-00851-ga8b7b55 19 november 2015
It all happened a month ago, after an update, the phone battery registered low and the device reboted, and for the first time in the phone history, I saw, at boot, the "app optimization" dialogue, that kept chewing at what battery life was left.
So, I replaced the battery;
at first start, all seemed OK till I hit an app (whatsapp I think) and the phone displaied the low battery warning and went down.
Same, after a full recharge, when pressing the camera hardware button.
Oh, I also had the discrepancy between the charging icon , which reported 100% charge, and after maybe 10min. 50% and, you know the story.
Now, at the very moment I am writing, after a full charge, 24 hours ago, the phone, without the sim and the SD cards, but left on, registers a charge of 93% (only wireless on, to invite some disharge); of course I cannot check the watsapp, but I took some pics, and the phone stays on.
What do you reckon, I am bugged, as android 5.1.1
should I hang on the phone, which, by the way, performs(ed) pretty well, even though marsmallow is not an option, with the 2GB mem. at least in a bog standard state (i.e. not rooted)?
Thanks
A little update: after two more hours, I started using the browser, and after viewing a couple of pages, the phone swiched itself off.
Now, the charging icon, visible, when phone is off, show a 1% charge.
So, the software battery meter, must be well off the mark?
Last addiction: after an hour, the status light is green (phone charged?) and the charge icon, displays a 100% level.
It's your say, now.
I have this problem and battery replace didnt solve anything here too, but I'm on nougat. I hope someone know a solution for this.. But I think It is some kind of hardware problem.
Little update: after recharging, I switched the phone up and let it play some video on youtube;
well, after maybe half an hour, it went down, and as soon as I plugged the charger in, the icon showed 80% charge, which I allready experienced, dismissing it had a fawlty reading, but, with some afterthought , would be in line with the actual battery drainage ( remember that without any activity it stays on indefenetly) and is, as if, some internal mechanism -either hardware or software, is programmed to switch it off at that precise level.
Just a thought, is there somewhere, the level of battery disharge can be set, at our discretion before the device shuts off, say 15%?
I do not seem to find this specific setting, currently.
It is less credible, as time goes by, to think of it as a specific device/brand problem, given the fact that all the major players ware, seems to be affected, and allowing for differences in platforms, the common denominator would appear to be the software itself.
Exact same problem
Some time ago, I replaced my Xperia SP's battery.
The "used, like new" battery I ordered was as bad as the one that was to be replaced, maybe even worse.
I complained, got another-one. This other battery works great.
Remember: There are no "new" batteries out there, just used-ones.
Some are still good, some are dead.
I don't know where replacement batteries that are new should come from... Sony has never sold them as spare parts. I don't know of any company that produces batteries for Sony phones and sells these batteries on the open market.
I only know of third party spare parts for iPhones. Apple has sold only like 20 different models since 2006.
Sony? More like 100.
Producing third party spare parts just isn't profitable in this case. That's the reason why there aren't any.
Any seller who claims to offer "new" batteries lies. At least if he didn't take them from some never used devices.
I'd be HAPPY to be proven wrong because I also need a new battery for my Z1.
Besides, it's no wonder all our phones' batteries die at the same time. They are all the same age and have had more or less the same amount of charging cycles.
Also, it's no wonder they all die the same way (suddenly empty).
They all (more or less) came out of the same factory.
It's like with cars, same model, same problems.
A Peugeot 206 always has problems with the Zylinderkopfdichtung (don't know the English word, the rubber thingy in the motor that keeps water from mixing with oil), some stuff with the wheels or the exhaust flies off because of rust... for the third time in 5 years...
Kaffeetrinker said:
Some time ago, I replaced my Xperia SP's battery.
The "used, like new" battery I ordered was as bad as the one that was to be replaced, maybe even worse.
Remember: There are no "new" batteries out there, just used-ones.
Some are still good, some are dead.
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Your allegations, are worth investigating.
[solved]
Very important updates.
There seems to be an "xperia battery bug" which kicks in at every battery change.
After having done all the calibration stuff, I re-opened the phone and took the battery connector off, while the phone was on.
Then, did the same, with the phone off.
After three or four days in which the phone did not seem able to start, (rebooted at the first stages of switching on) the phone magically booted up with, and what's more important there was no dicrepancy, between the battery charge level, shown when you plug in the charger, with phone switched off, and the charge level presented by the software, once the phone is on.
So, do not give up your still worth device!
Only thing I noticed now, is a sligtly faster battery consumption, even in stamina mode;
could it be related with the post above?
Maybe a new custom ROM could fix the problem, now that the phone seems stable.
Similar problem.
Phone shuts down when 2 to 3 apps are working simultaneously. It first heats up and then suddenly dies.
Secondly, it sometimes dies on 60% and other days it can work till 1% too. Sometimes after a reboot, it shows the battery percentage abnormally.
I love this phone so i m not planning to throw it away. On the other hand, i cannot find an original battery in the market.
Just chuck a suitable battery in and do the procedure I described.
My battery is not original either, so no problem.
As far as the battery consumption, it seems to be better now, after a week of use.

Question Battery drainage on Galaxy Watch 5 pro (sm-r920)

Hello there everyone.
Since few months I'm using sm-r920 (galaxy watch 5 pro) as my watch. Despite crappy time, that it can handle itself between charging, all was nice. Until recently - two days back, in my work, I've got my hand with smartwatch stuck between big pile of heavy (like hundreds of kilos) stuff and solid foundation. Managed to get hand out of it quickly (the hand is generally OK), smartwatch also looked GOOD on first sign.
BUT
Since that accident, I've noticed, that watch drainage battery ultrafast. Previously, my full charge lasted for almost 96h. Now - after 24 hours, I'm left with like 20% of battery left (from being fully charged, despite being screen off like 99,5% of the time). This is unacceptable, despite having all extra drainage options besides bluetooth turned off (AOD, wifi, NFC, GPS, quiet mode, I've even got battery saving option enabled all the time, both previously and currently).
Is it somehow possible to damage battery without damaging screen or backplate? Because I've managed to teardown smartwatch from wristband and extra rubber protection and still see absoutely no damage to it, yet battery life is awful now. What is also worth noticing - when clock turned down due to lack of energy in the battery, I've plugged it in, let it charge to full 100%, and after turning it on again I did not let smartwatch to connect to wifi to download anything or to upload anything (I do this very rarely, like once per few months), because due to 10+ years of android experience, I've learned, that being first in update queue isn't always a good method (in most cases it is actually rather more problem-generating, than problem-solving - but that is only my own opinion).
Anyway - the whole point here is that - is it possible to damage battery in that way, or do I have to look for source of that problem somewhere else? Also - I cannot find more detailed data about battery usage (with graph, known from android-based devices) etc. Just raw list of just a few apps from watch, that cannot (in my opinion) explain 30% drainage in circa 7h time since battery was reported 100% and just being plugged off from charger.
I also did not notice ANY damage to screen or titanium case. The watch also did not monitor me in any way, that it might be damaged somehow (although I believe, that you have to have some extra tools to dig deeper into it, than just regular wearOS).
Hi. Did you leave wireless ADB enabled in developer options? It's a known issue that drains the battery.
I also have a GW 5Pro. I don't use anything, I turned it off. No sports, no AOD, no Wifi, no GPS, no measurements. 2 days. I returned my first watch, I thought it was faulty. Got another one, same 2 days. For my partner, GW 5 40 mm for 3 days.
All right, it took me some time to figure out, what was wrong, BUT I've got a solution for it.
Turned out, that high pressure applied on small surface is capable to break physically motherboard WITHOUT damaging either screen or backplate. In my case, that was the problem - screen worked fine, there were no sign of physical damage on either side, but since motherboard's circuit has been somewhere opened, there were bigger power consumption and shorter battery time.
Turns out, samsung authorised service can fix it, if you pay them. Total cost of mine repair was around 170 €, so it is still much better option, than buying a new one. If you give watch to authorised service, they will also check for waterproof and basically made that smartwatch like new.
Mine 44 mm is working almost for 4 straight days without charging, so 2 days is definitelly faulty. Also - debloating doesn't give me any more battery time (it could work, it just doesn't give me anything extra, but it might work in your case).

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